Let me know some of the jury votes that surprised you! Others I thought about including: Victoria voting Chris Eliza voting Parv The Noble One voting Dom Debbie voting Michele (FTC made it seem like she was over Aubry's betrayal) Ralph voting Phile
Definetly after watching the Debbies jury speaks vid really highlighted why she voted for Michelle and we just didnt see that relationship in the edit also Michelles KR deep dive revealed did ask Michele so meting but they chose not to show it.
Abi was never a bitter juror. Just watch her ponderosas. If she was really petty, it wouldn't matter if Denise apologized, she would still be vindictive and vote for someone else. But she voted for the best player in both of her seasons. Just give the girl some credit.
and she did at one point propose to Lisa & Skupin about a final 3 of them and they didn't consider it. That could have factored in a little, but I might be wrong.
Precedent was set by Janu - I remember reading somewhere that nowadays if someone quits during the jury phase, then the decision would be made on a case-by-case basis to put them on the jury or not. Although I don't remember the source for that, so take it with a grain of salt. However, all quits post-Nicaragua have been pre-jury, so this hasn't been tested yet. The closest we came was Julie McGee in SJDS, who quit one round before the jury (presumably so she wouldn't have to be separated from Rocker for another 3 weeks)
Something I find very interesting (similar to the Jenna/Heidi thing), Parvati had on-screen rivalries with both Eliza and Jerri in both those seasons, and yet they still voted for her to win the game. Just goes to show how much people respect Parv out there, including those who didn't like her.
@@JarinCOD I think Sandra should have, because at the end of the day this is all a social experiment. You cant FORCE someone to like a big move. If the game was based more objectively and not subjectively then Parv would have won but it isnt. Now I would have LOVED Jerri to win but sadly she didnt make the FTC :(
@@viktoryc Sandra herself and others in the cast think Jerri would have won against Parv and Russell, they say the edit downplayed how disliked Parvati was by the end of HvV. I wish I lived in a timeline where Jerri won, that would be an amazing end to her survivor journey after being edited as a villain in AO and ALL stars, where Tina and Colby where doing more villainous acts in their hero edits, lol.
There is a reason why the baseless conspiracy theory of Christy pulling a Topaz (accidentally voting for the wrong person) 10 years before Topaz did it, makes so much sense.
@@IdoledOut I’m glad you pointed out how ableist it is to assume Christy didn’t know who to vote for cause she was deaf. Jeff has stated for years at FTC you’re voting for a person to win
Anyone else just love how he sneaks in Survivor jokes that would only make sense if you watch the show??? I wait every Sunday just to watch this channel 😜
I also think Parvati's votes for Ozzy and Natalie A should get an honourable mention. Based on her gameplay, I've always been surprised that she seems to vote for challenge strength more than people who had clearly strategically superior games (Yul, Tony).
I was pretty disappointed in both of those votes from Parvati. Especially the Natalie vote in WaW. Like Tony ran that game and she voted Natalie for what? Because they got to know each other better on EoE?
@@timmarzullo5069 She didn’t get to play with Tony, but she knew dang well he was running the game. I knew she’d vote for natalie though because they became friends on the edge.
@@tmm4195 I feel like it’s odd to be stuck on someone’s votes especially the jury votes because there’s so much we don’t see and we can’t really put ourselves on the persons shoes. They voted what they voted and that’s it for me
@@Mendejito I get there’s a lot we don’t see, but it was pretty simple why Parvati voted for Natalie over Tony. It’s because she got to become friends with her on the Edge. I mean even Natalie said the jury knew Tony was running the game. Parvati can vote for who she wants, but it doesn’t seem like she really had a good reason to vote for Natalie from a gameplay point of view. All of Natalie’s votes came from people that she was friends with before the game like Jeremy, or people she got to bond with on Edge like Parvati.
She partly blamed gavin for her elimination, but she said the main reason was that she couldn’t think of one big move he made in the game when going to vote for the winner.
@@tmm4195 i love Victoria aa a player and was actually rooting for her to win, but big moves are so overrated imo. Its an unnecessary risk in a lot of instances. For instance, in BvsW when natalie voted out baylor in final 4. It has always bothered me that the fans almost universally agree that was an amazing move. It was a useless move that actually caused natalie to lose 2 votes. There is no way she is not an unanimous winner in a final three against missy and Baylor. Its a big move for big moves sake which is bad gameplay
@@dgib9455 I don’t think you need lots of big moves, but I think you need to do something to impact the game in some way. Which is part of the outplay portion of the game.
This is probably one of my favorite Survivor videos ever. Interesting topic, insanely well-thought out, and all the random half-references to make jokes had me cackling. Incredible video!
Personally, I feel like Denise ripped into Abi so hard mainly to keep the target off Malcolm. Pete had started trying to get everyone against him and it seemed like he almost convinced Skupin to do so.
I don't feel Denise ripped into her. I definitely don't find anything she said to be undeserved. Abi-Maria was simply a bully. She would be nasty and vindictive to people then complain when people didn't want to play the game with her. It says a lot that they were going to take her all the way to the end (because she could never win), but then sacrificed that option just to gain some peace in the tribe.
I get that she didn't like Jenna, but she was straight up creeped out by Matt. And he wasn't trying to make inroads with her. She had two choices she didn't like that much, so I can see why she just decided to pick the person she knew a bit better.
Calling Christy’s vote for Jenna as #1 since people still hypothesize she voted wrong Also, Erik said in a china reunion that he voted for amanda because he felt that even though her FTC sucked that he thought he could see between the lines of her answers and thought there was a lot of impressive stuff left unsaid about her game.
I thought Kellyn in Ghost Island was a lock for Dom and Donathan was a lock for Laurel. That jury had to be one of the most conflicted in the history of Survivor; which makes sense when you factor in the tie
Thing with donathan is there exist zero world that justifies a laurel vote. He had to know it was a two horse race at that point. Better to vote rather than scribble a name for no reason.
Although Donathan and Laurel were allies for most of the game, they were on opposite sides by the final 7 Kellyn boot. Donathan kept pushing Laurel to make a move against Dom/Wendell, but Laurel kept hesitating
Pretty sure Naonka (and Purple Kelly) shared an alliance with Fabio at the time they quit. Which is a big point to why they had to adjust the rules for quitters being on the jury going forward because them being there I think swung the final vote in Fabio’s favor.
@@devondonato4609 there are times regardless of personal feelings that you put it aside and vote for who played it the best. in NO way did Kenzie play the best game. Survivor needs a new theme. I've got it. the jury votes and during the finale and up until a day or 2 later reveal the results and if the fans hate the decision then those jurors who made it will be banned from playing for life. it should be called SURVIVOR: Decisions have Consequences.
I always found the suggestion that "Christy Smith misunderstood" to be very unpleasant, because I never saw speculation of a full-hearing Survivor misunderstanding the jury rules. It's not that hard to imagine someone going back on the "Not voting for evil step-sisters" thing when it's a final 2 there's only one other person to choose from.
@@thefoxoflaurels3437 Yeah that's the thing that I don't get. Christy clearly hated Jenna but she also openly found Matt to be really creepy. Christy swallowed her pride and voted for Jenna who she knew since day 1 and respected how Jenna overcame overwhelming obstacles from the final 5 onward to make the finals AND vote out the people who would have beat her. Christy had no connection to Matt, her vote always made sense to me.
Christian decided on his jury vote analytically and realized that the reason the Goliaths regained control post-John blindside was because of Mike (and sometimes Kara). Mike manipulated Gabby on both the Carl vote and the Gabby blindside, and played a main role in getting rid of all the remaining David's. Nick had a more emotional game and was kind of saved by his late immunity run.
Most shocking would be Debbie voting for Michele over Aubry. The edit made it seem like Debbie was super proud of Aubry at FTC but in reality she was extremely bitter.
i forgot about that one. i remember when the votes were first revealed and before we knew who voted for who, i thought debbie was the extra aubry vote and i was surprised she wasnt.
9:12 As a supremely casual fan of the show who only started watched last year (finally caught up on all seasons), I've seen you bash Skupin in multiple videos and never understood why.........OOOOOOOOOOOOH, now I get it.
Surprised nobody has mentioned Grant voting for Boston Rob. That really surprised me. I am pretty sure it was only since he was with such huge goats, but even then it surprised me. He hated Rob at that point. Another huge surprise, which I have already seen mentioned a lot but worth repeating again is Abi voting Denise. One of her final confessionals. "You are patronizing, you are judgemental, you just aren't a good person, and I reeeaaalllly dislike you."
I remember even when I was too young to understand the nuances of the game hearing Christy says one of the women winning the million was not gonna happen in her departure speech. I also remember feeling surprised when she DID vote for Jenna in the end. It was surprising then and it's just as surprising now
Parvati not voting for Tony in S40 suprised me quite a bit. even in Tony's EW psot-game interview, he justified Jeremy, Tyson, and Ethan voting for Natalie Anderson, but even the Survivor King could not wrap his head around the fact that he didnt get Parvati's vote at the end
@@silverbowftw5225 ik, Tony addressed that in his EW interview and actually excused the other 3 voters, using the reason that you proposed. it just surprised both me, and Tony, that Parvati would prioritise her relationship with Nat over a better game
I like the theory that naonka had a crush on fabio the entire game, and her bullying was just because she had feelings for him lol. When you view it that way her vote and attitude towards him makes sense
I think James was thinking that Courtney was obviously supposed to be the first person voted out of the game but not only was she not the first person voted out but she made it to the end and won an immunity if anybody else besides Todd had made it to final tribal and I was on the jury I'd find it hard not to vote for Courtney but you know Todd was there and you can't beat Todd's final tribal performance it's often considered the best performance on like every top 10 list
@@dougierichardson484 they all stood a good shot for different reasons too Todd played a really aggressive game and even though I thought he deserved to win at the end I didn't think he was actually going to win Amanda played an honest tow the alliance type of game where she didn't really backstab anybody and she made a couple good moves but nothing too spectacular and then Courtney played the game that I don't think I've seen won yet but has come close to winning the whole I'm Fish Out of Water I'm a city girl not Built For This type of gameplay and now I can kind of understand why she and fish back were dating because they pretty much used the same reasoning why they should win
According to her and Kass, Tony was sexist and claimed things wouldn't get done without the men around. Kass looked past it, but Tasha didn't. She was trying to fish for some reason to justify voting for Woo when she asked her question at the final tribal.
Fun Honorable Mention from International Survivor: Survivor South Africa Season 5. basically player x was on the jury and in the old tribal format went towards the start claiming that they were voting for player y and that if it wasn't a unanimous decision from the jury it was doing an injustice to the game of survivor. by the end of tribal she was convinced by player z in the final 3 to vote for player z causing player z to win in a 5-3-2 plurality vote win....yeah
@@mikhailvolpe3934 jim rice is so up his own ass, i know he's a medical marijuana dispenser but i would not wanna hang out with, much less smoke with that guy haha
i always thought that the jury in china was up in the air but had gone into there leaning more towards amanda but because her speech was so poor and with todds great speech, he was able to snag the votes.
I've been watching your channel for like a year now, and I've never seen a single episode of Survivir, nor have I ever been interested 😂😂 Yet here I still am
Have you noticed in final 3, if there is 1 man and 2 women, they put the guy in the middle AND higher than the two women? It sends subliminal messages and they always end up winning! Todd, Mike, Richard
Where is Ami's jury vote for Twila from Survivor Vanuatu? I was shocked Ami voted for her to win, especially after everything that happened between them.
Yeh agree 100%, Bob didnt do anything exept win immunity, Susie was ok but not really great social and strategic player, she just follow Kenny, Crystal. The only one who deserve it is Sugar, she controlled every single vote post merge and a lot of pre merge boot too... i think people dont really considering her since she's not really strategic but she was the Queen of Gabon and shes hilarious, entertaining as heck...
Isn't part of the "Christy was trying to vote Jenna out" theory based on the fact that Amazon is the only season where the full confessionals of the jurors when they cast their votes for the winners never released?
That's why I disagree with people saying it's mean or ableist to say Christy screwed up the final voting, because that is a huge piece of evidence that it could be true.
@@christellefrancios2038 go watch Amazon it’s one of biggest storylines one of reason Rob C able to play middle (Realistic first person to do so) [maybe Kathy? S4]
Susie was very deserving to win the bitter jury of Gabon. Don’t be blinded by that sour and bitter tribe that felt superior and insinuated none of them was desrving over them. Susie blindsided that alliance allowing her to continue to move up in ranks throughout the season and won individual immunities when she was at higher risk. She even had an final 3 alliance with Crystal and Matty showing she was always playing/deserving.
tbf she would've gotten OBLITERATED by matty at that ftc. i love susie and wouldve also liked her to win, but she's a prime example in my eyes of someone whose game looks far more impressive on paper then it actually was
I agree that Matty would of won against her at Final 3, but Based on the players that made the Final 3 - Susie was making moves in the game and deserving.
@@alexd740 yeah she def made more moves then bob (and tbh probably matty who kinda flukes his way into his position off being the sanest member of fang), that said she (and sugar) were on the bottomest of bottoms for basically the entire game and she literally had to be tricked into flipping on marcus by ken and crystal
Shocked about: Naseer voting for Erika, Xander was obviously not winning after that Woo 2.0 move but the edit really pushed this for some reason? Shan/Liana voting for Erika, not because Deshawn had a good game but because the Black alliance. Rick voting for Gavin, Chris did the same thing Rick did with the EOE part. JP voting for Ben, still not sure about this one. Brenda voting for John, after the teeth thing I thought she would let it go and vote for her. Sundra voting for Yul since the edit tried to show yul/becky with her/ozzy which was inaccurate.
naonka's vote is the only one that truly stands out, because without her's and purple kelly's votes, chase would've for sure won over fabio. i don't even feel like quitters should be allowed to vote on the jury, but i can make an exception with this because fabio truly deserved to win over chase
Grant Mattos voting for Boston Rob. They hated each other, both in the game and after it. But Rob was against 2 such huge goats, I guess he felt he had to vote him.
And then abi saying she would have voted for Denise even if Malcom was brought to the end made me like her a lot more tbh. She was just confused like the whole game.
I don’t think Erik’s vote is that shocking at all. He and Amanda were allies assuring the post-merge, and he was generally closer with her than Courtney or Todd. Frosti’s was a little surprising, but given how good Todd’s performance was, it’s understandable why anyone would vote for him.
I'm voting my one of my best friends to win 1 million dollars if I'm a survivor juror. Idc who they're sitting next to, 1 million dollars to my bestie.
@@jacoblangguth5125 im sure they met in passing outside the show but they just never played together in waw so parvati not voting for him makes sense in that regard which makes the whole eoe jury thing even stupider with people on the jury who could have never played with a member of the f3. if i had any surprise about parvatis vote it was that she voted for natalie over michele.
I love Parvati as a player, but as a juror she never votes for the most deserving player. I get she never got to play with Tony, but she’s at the tribal councils and knew Tony was running the game. Even Michelle would’ve been a better option. The only reason is cause they knew each other from the edge which is a pretty unfair advantage.
@@tmm4195 wdym never? the only other time parvati voted on a jury was in cook islands and although yul dominated strategically, becky and ozzy were just as integral to the success of the aitu four and deserving as yul was in my opinion.
Lisa should have won that season Denise got the bitter vote. Nastiest cast ever and they couldn't admit Lisa outplayed them all. Denise worse winner than Natalie. Don't blame people for hating russel.
Everyone talks about Debbie voting for Michele, but I actually think Nick voting for Aubry was more surprising. They were on different tribes until the merge, and then Nick was the merge boot (after Neal's med-evac).
@@heatherparisi8250 I think he respected her more after she blindsided him. The thing is he felt like he protected Michele in the pre-merge but Michele didn't see it that way because she never went to tribal council in the pre-merge so Nick never built any sort of loyalty towards Michele even though he thought he did.
Yeah Fiji wasn’t going to be another race based season, they just decided to cast exactly like Cook Islands for one more season and then immediately go back to the classic 75 percent white casting for China and beyond because casting was woke for exactly one year and one year only
Let me know some of the jury votes that surprised you! Others I thought about including:
Victoria voting Chris
Eliza voting Parv
The Noble One voting Dom
Debbie voting Michele (FTC made it seem like she was over Aubry's betrayal)
Ralph voting Phile
I always thought Chris would vote Dom as despite how aloof Chris was, he respected the gameplay Dom had (the reason he wanted him out to begin with)
Debbie voting for Michele is a huge shock if you are unaware of Ponderosa videos and postgame interviews.
Heheh. Phile.
Definetly after watching the Debbies jury speaks vid really highlighted why she voted for Michelle and we just didnt see that relationship in the edit also Michelles KR deep dive revealed did ask Michele so meting but they chose not to show it.
Christian voting Mike White
Tbf I’m pretty sure the only reason Abi-Maria voted for Denise was because she was the only one of the F3 to actually apologize to her.
and yet it was one of those "sorry if you felt that way" apologies
If only lisa apologized so she could be 2nd place and redacted could be a more lousy 3rd
Abi was never a bitter juror. Just watch her ponderosas. If she was really petty, it wouldn't matter if Denise apologized, she would still be vindictive and vote for someone else. But she voted for the best player in both of her seasons. Just give the girl some credit.
@@felipepn3397 yeah. She knows that she's playing a game no matter how obnoxious she got on the show.
and she did at one point propose to Lisa & Skupin about a final 3 of them and they didn't consider it. That could have factored in a little, but I might be wrong.
Everyone is shocked Na'Onka voted for Fabio, but I am just shocked that she was on the jury at all after quitting.
Precedent was set by Janu - I remember reading somewhere that nowadays if someone quits during the jury phase, then the decision would be made on a case-by-case basis to put them on the jury or not. Although I don't remember the source for that, so take it with a grain of salt.
However, all quits post-Nicaragua have been pre-jury, so this hasn't been tested yet. The closest we came was Julie McGee in SJDS, who quit one round before the jury (presumably so she wouldn't have to be separated from Rocker for another 3 weeks)
I wasn't surprised. Their relationship was way better than the edit suggested.
According to Peih-Gee, Erik voted for Amanda because she felt bad for her and thought she deserved SOMETHING.
Erik is a gem.
That is extremely wholesome and on-brand for Erik
I feel like that’s something I would do
Thank Gawd Jamie took his virginity!! ;)
@@IdoledOut Peih-Gee in her AMA: “Erik is the nicest guy in the world”
I wonder how Nick Stanbury would vote in F2 of Panama
always finding a way to shit on skupin. i love it lmao
It's also really funny the way he does it too. 🤣🤣
Something I find very interesting (similar to the Jenna/Heidi thing), Parvati had on-screen rivalries with both Eliza and Jerri in both those seasons, and yet they still voted for her to win the game. Just goes to show how much people respect Parv out there, including those who didn't like her.
Respect for Jerri, Sandra should have never won her second season.
@@JarinCOD I think Sandra should have, because at the end of the day this is all a social experiment. You cant FORCE someone to like a big move. If the game was based more objectively and not subjectively then Parv would have won but it isnt. Now I would have LOVED Jerri to win but sadly she didnt make the FTC :(
@@JarinCOD Sandra deserved to win. Parvati and Russell did NOT deserve to win.
@@viktoryc Sandra herself and others in the cast think Jerri would have won against Parv and Russell, they say the edit downplayed how disliked Parvati was by the end of HvV. I wish I lived in a timeline where Jerri won, that would be an amazing end to her survivor journey after being edited as a villain in AO and ALL stars, where Tina and Colby where doing more villainous acts in their hero edits, lol.
@@nebulous798 FOR REAL, I 100% agree
Christy voting for Jenna in season 6 still doesn't make sense to me all these years later. She HATED Jenna.
Seriously! So many of her confessionals were about how her dislike of Jenna and Heidi. At least they addressed it at the reunion
I liked whoever put a picture of a bong on one of the Fabio votes at the FTC 😆
There is a reason why the baseless conspiracy theory of Christy pulling a Topaz (accidentally voting for the wrong person) 10 years before Topaz did it, makes so much sense.
@@giovanniorellana2200 That was Naonka
@@IdoledOut I’m glad you pointed out how ableist it is to assume Christy didn’t know who to vote for cause she was deaf. Jeff has stated for years at FTC you’re voting for a person to win
Christy didn't vote for Matt because "he's creepy... he's creepy"
I wish I could say ANYTHING with as much venom in my voice as Naonka says, "Jud".
Anyone else just love how he sneaks in Survivor jokes that would only make sense if you watch the show??? I wait every Sunday just to watch this channel 😜
I also think Parvati's votes for Ozzy and Natalie A should get an honourable mention. Based on her gameplay, I've always been surprised that she seems to vote for challenge strength more than people who had clearly strategically superior games (Yul, Tony).
I was pretty disappointed in both of those votes from Parvati. Especially the Natalie vote in WaW. Like Tony ran that game and she voted Natalie for what? Because they got to know each other better on EoE?
She literally didn't play with Tony. Why the edge sucks.
@@timmarzullo5069 She didn’t get to play with Tony, but she knew dang well he was running the game. I knew she’d vote for natalie though because they became friends on the edge.
@@tmm4195 I feel like it’s odd to be stuck on someone’s votes especially the jury votes because there’s so much we don’t see and we can’t really put ourselves on the persons shoes. They voted what they voted and that’s it for me
@@Mendejito I get there’s a lot we don’t see, but it was pretty simple why Parvati voted for Natalie over Tony. It’s because she got to become friends with her on the Edge. I mean even Natalie said the jury knew Tony was running the game. Parvati can vote for who she wants, but it doesn’t seem like she really had a good reason to vote for Natalie from a gameplay point of view. All of Natalie’s votes came from people that she was friends with before the game like Jeremy, or people she got to bond with on Edge like Parvati.
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I mean when you merge them together like that….Jimmy T really is Malcolm 😂
Just rewatched Eoe and was definitely shocked to see and remember that Victoria voted for Chris over Gavin who was her best ally the whole time
I think because she blamed Gavin for her elimination.
She partly blamed gavin for her elimination, but she said the main reason was that she couldn’t think of one big move he made in the game when going to vote for the winner.
@@tmm4195 i love Victoria aa a player and was actually rooting for her to win, but big moves are so overrated imo. Its an unnecessary risk in a lot of instances. For instance, in BvsW when natalie voted out baylor in final 4. It has always bothered me that the fans almost universally agree that was an amazing move. It was a useless move that actually caused natalie to lose 2 votes. There is no way she is not an unanimous winner in a final three against missy and Baylor. Its a big move for big moves sake which is bad gameplay
@@dgib9455 I don’t think you need lots of big moves, but I think you need to do something to impact the game in some way. Which is part of the outplay portion of the game.
@@tmm4195 i agree completely but alot of the big moves fans/players love are sometimes more hurtful to a players game then helpful
This is probably one of my favorite Survivor videos ever. Interesting topic, insanely well-thought out, and all the random half-references to make jokes had me cackling. Incredible video!
THANK YOU FOR PUTTING NAONKA VOTING FOR FABIO SUCH AN UNDERRATED SURPRISE
You're never gonna stop dragging Skupin in your videos, are you? XD
Keep at it.
So we perhaps have a new entry, or at least honourable mention for this list. Maria voting Kenzie instead of Charlie in 46
Personally, I feel like Denise ripped into Abi so hard mainly to keep the target off Malcolm. Pete had started trying to get everyone against him and it seemed like he almost convinced Skupin to do so.
I don't feel Denise ripped into her. I definitely don't find anything she said to be undeserved. Abi-Maria was simply a bully. She would be nasty and vindictive to people then complain when people didn't want to play the game with her. It says a lot that they were going to take her all the way to the end (because she could never win), but then sacrificed that option just to gain some peace in the tribe.
I get that she didn't like Jenna, but she was straight up creeped out by Matt. And he wasn't trying to make inroads with her. She had two choices she didn't like that much, so I can see why she just decided to pick the person she knew a bit better.
Calling Christy’s vote for Jenna as #1 since people still hypothesize she voted wrong
Also, Erik said in a china reunion that he voted for amanda because he felt that even though her FTC sucked that he thought he could see between the lines of her answers and thought there was a lot of impressive stuff left unsaid about her game.
#1 was the first on my mind, but I absolutely loved her explanation at the reunion. "She outwitted, outplayed, and outlasted me.''
I thought Kellyn in Ghost Island was a lock for Dom and Donathan was a lock for Laurel. That jury had to be one of the most conflicted in the history of Survivor; which makes sense when you factor in the tie
Thing with donathan is there exist zero world that justifies a laurel vote. He had to know it was a two horse race at that point. Better to vote rather than scribble a name for no reason.
Nobody would ever vote for Laurel
Although Donathan and Laurel were allies for most of the game, they were on opposite sides by the final 7 Kellyn boot. Donathan kept pushing Laurel to make a move against Dom/Wendell, but Laurel kept hesitating
Pretty sure Naonka (and Purple Kelly) shared an alliance with Fabio at the time they quit. Which is a big point to why they had to adjust the rules for quitters being on the jury going forward because them being there I think swung the final vote in Fabio’s favor.
that would actually make a lot of sense
Fabio is one of the worst winners. He won because the quitters were on the jury when they shouldn’t have been
That certainly put things in his favor but I wouldn’t put that as a mark against game, instead I see it as a blemish on the season overall.
Purple Kelly clearly had an alliance with Fabio. Fabio was the nicest person to her and he even lent her his clothes.
You can add Maria voting for Kenzie to this now
How? They were close and Kenzie is the one to outplay her
@@devondonato4609 there are times regardless of personal feelings that you put it aside and vote for who played it the best. in NO way did Kenzie play the best game. Survivor needs a new theme. I've got it. the jury votes and during the finale and up until a day or 2 later reveal the results and if the fans hate the decision then those jurors who made it will be banned from playing for life. it should be called SURVIVOR: Decisions have Consequences.
@NTX_Rated Kenzie and Charlie played the same game, except Kenzie is actually the one to pull the trigger on getting Q out
@NTX_Rated the fans of the show are pieces of shit I would hate to give them the choice
I always found the suggestion that "Christy Smith misunderstood" to be very unpleasant, because I never saw speculation of a full-hearing Survivor misunderstanding the jury rules. It's not that hard to imagine someone going back on the "Not voting for evil step-sisters" thing when it's a final 2 there's only one other person to choose from.
It is suspicious though that it was the only season they didn't release the final voting confessionals for though.
@@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong either way, it wasn’t a 4-3 vote. Christy’s vote didn’t change anything, so there’s no reason for any conspiracy theories
And it’s Matthew who Christy in particular found “creepy”
@@freddytang2128 No, but that doesn't mean it isn't a point of interest that she might have voted incorrectly.
@@thefoxoflaurels3437 Yeah that's the thing that I don't get. Christy clearly hated Jenna but she also openly found Matt to be really creepy. Christy swallowed her pride and voted for Jenna who she knew since day 1 and respected how Jenna overcame overwhelming obstacles from the final 5 onward to make the finals AND vote out the people who would have beat her. Christy had no connection to Matt, her vote always made sense to me.
Shain’t, carter jury vote, jimmy t is Malcolm from the future…you got me laughing out loud! Fantastic video
I would pay money to see Christy’s voting confessional for Jenna in Amazon
Christian voting Mike was a real shocker, because I was expecting him to be a lock for Nick
Christian decided on his jury vote analytically and realized that the reason the Goliaths regained control post-John blindside was because of Mike (and sometimes Kara). Mike manipulated Gabby on both the Carl vote and the Gabby blindside, and played a main role in getting rid of all the remaining David's. Nick had a more emotional game and was kind of saved by his late immunity run.
@@Ramboost007I agree
I actually don't find NaOnka's vote for Fabio that surprising. Their rivalry always seemed more playful than actual hatred.
Most shocking would be Debbie voting for Michele over Aubry. The edit made it seem like Debbie was super proud of Aubry at FTC but in reality she was extremely bitter.
Agreed, even at FTC Debbie was basically like 'I love you Aubry :)' then voted Michele. Very bizarre choice to even show that
And she was still bitter in Game Changers. She was very cold towards Aubry whenever they were together.
i forgot about that one. i remember when the votes were first revealed and before we knew who voted for who, i thought debbie was the extra aubry vote and i was surprised she wasnt.
@@abbyrose6660 It was even listed on Wikipedia or survivor wiki as such when the results were revealed.
@@0pacbig32 i remember that lol so when i saw it was nick who voted for aubry i was like huh???
9:12 As a supremely casual fan of the show who only started watched last year (finally caught up on all seasons), I've seen you bash Skupin in multiple videos and never understood why.........OOOOOOOOOOOOH, now I get it.
This channel's most shocking individual take:
The time you trashed stew.
Surprised nobody has mentioned Grant voting for Boston Rob. That really surprised me. I am pretty sure it was only since he was with such huge goats, but even then it surprised me. He hated Rob at that point.
Another huge surprise, which I have already seen mentioned a lot but worth repeating again is Abi voting Denise. One of her final confessionals. "You are patronizing, you are judgemental, you just aren't a good person, and I reeeaaalllly dislike you."
An evil stepsister is still family ❤️
I remember even when I was too young to understand the nuances of the game hearing Christy says one of the women winning the million was not gonna happen in her departure speech. I also remember feeling surprised when she DID vote for Jenna in the end. It was surprising then and it's just as surprising now
Parvati not voting for Tony in S40 suprised me quite a bit.
even in Tony's EW psot-game interview, he justified Jeremy, Tyson, and Ethan voting for Natalie Anderson, but even the Survivor King could not wrap his head around the fact that he didnt get Parvati's vote at the end
Parvati bonded with Natalie a lot in the edge
@@silverbowftw5225 ik, Tony addressed that in his EW interview and actually excused the other 3 voters, using the reason that you proposed. it just surprised both me, and Tony, that Parvati would prioritise her relationship with Nat over a better game
dropping by to comment you are my favorite survivor content creator. your writing and delivery are always hilarious and well-paced! i appreciate ya
Thank you for seeing Na Onka's comedic brilliance. I laughed at every one of her confessionals
That's not funny. She's mean and nasty.
I like the theory that naonka had a crush on fabio the entire game, and her bullying was just because she had feelings for him lol. When you view it that way her vote and attitude towards him makes sense
I think James was thinking that Courtney was obviously supposed to be the first person voted out of the game but not only was she not the first person voted out but she made it to the end and won an immunity if anybody else besides Todd had made it to final tribal and I was on the jury I'd find it hard not to vote for Courtney but you know Todd was there and you can't beat Todd's final tribal performance it's often considered the best performance on like every top 10 list
China was the best Final 3 ever. 3 people who all stood a good shot at winning. You never see that.
@@dougierichardson484 they all stood a good shot for different reasons too Todd played a really aggressive game and even though I thought he deserved to win at the end I didn't think he was actually going to win Amanda played an honest tow the alliance type of game where she didn't really backstab anybody and she made a couple good moves but nothing too spectacular and then Courtney played the game that I don't think I've seen won yet but has come close to winning the whole I'm Fish Out of Water I'm a city girl not Built For This type of gameplay and now I can kind of understand why she and fish back were dating because they pretty much used the same reasoning why they should win
Your videos never last long enough, that’s how much I like them 😔
Fr, I wish all his videos were top 10s
the hilarious part of philippines is that probably abi wins if she goes to the end over malcolm or denise.
I think Lisa wins in that final 3 scenario
@@jayjasperjp Pete said in a Reddit AMA that Lisa definitely wins in that scenario.
@@SmoothCriminal12
It's still satisfying knowing she'd beat Skupin.
Tasha giving WOO his only vote in Cagayan still baffles me
According to her and Kass, Tony was sexist and claimed things wouldn't get done without the men around. Kass looked past it, but Tasha didn't. She was trying to fish for some reason to justify voting for Woo when she asked her question at the final tribal.
Fun Honorable Mention from International Survivor:
Survivor South Africa Season 5. basically player x was on the jury and in the old tribal format went towards the start claiming that they were voting for player y and that if it wasn't a unanimous decision from the jury it was doing an injustice to the game of survivor. by the end of tribal she was convinced by player z in the final 3 to vote for player z causing player z to win in a 5-3-2 plurality vote win....yeah
12:13 I just found 2 more people to add to my dream survivor contestant blunt rotation.
I hope Jim Rice is on that list
@@mikhailvolpe3934 jim rice is so up his own ass, i know he's a medical marijuana dispenser but i would not wanna hang out with, much less smoke with that guy haha
I think you should do a video talking about the weirdest confessional locations in the game
This is an underrated idea!
i always thought that the jury in china was up in the air but had gone into there leaning more towards amanda but because her speech was so poor and with todds great speech, he was able to snag the votes.
I've been watching your channel for like a year now, and I've never seen a single episode of Survivir, nor have I ever been interested 😂😂 Yet here I still am
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Devins not voting Chris was my most surprising since they had a similar journey
I still feel like there are more than the 5 covered here. All for a part 2 sometime in the future 👍
You never pass up a chance to dunk on Skupin lol
as everyone should
Have you noticed in final 3, if there is 1 man and 2 women, they put the guy in the middle AND higher than the two women? It sends subliminal messages and they always end up winning! Todd, Mike, Richard
this happened in Caramoan with Cochran as well :/
That thing about jimmy t being malcolm from the future rocked my world
R.C also voted for Lisa, instead of Denise
That one's understandable, she only met Denise for one round of voting (the first merge round) while she was with Lisa since the start of the game
Where is Ami's jury vote for Twila from Survivor Vanuatu? I was shocked Ami voted for her to win, especially after everything that happened between them.
She apologized and Ami's vote confessional was shown.
I laughed out loud at a lot of your special comments on this one 😄
Tasha Voting for Woo was my most shocking (haven't seen the full video yet)
9:48 LMAO-
Sugar in Gabon was amazing!! She def deserved to win, she controlled the vote the whole time, but she had a terrible finale tribal.
Yeh agree 100%, Bob didnt do anything exept win immunity, Susie was ok but not really great social and strategic player, she just follow Kenny, Crystal. The only one who deserve it is Sugar, she controlled every single vote post merge and a lot of pre merge boot too... i think people dont really considering her since she's not really strategic but she was the Queen of Gabon and shes hilarious, entertaining as heck...
Courtney has said that she wanted Todd to win, so my guess is that Frosti knew that, or at least understood that at FTC.
Glad to see the Malcom/Jimmy T theory still getting credit.
Isn't part of the "Christy was trying to vote Jenna out" theory based on the fact that Amazon is the only season where the full confessionals of the jurors when they cast their votes for the winners never released?
That's why I disagree with people saying it's mean or ableist to say Christy screwed up the final voting, because that is a huge piece of evidence that it could be true.
@@Captain-Sum.Ting-Wong was Christy hearing impaired.??
@@christellefrancios2038 go watch Amazon it’s one of biggest storylines one of reason Rob C able to play middle (Realistic first person to do so) [maybe Kathy? S4]
That Jimmy T / Malcolm shot is WILD
Also Christy’s blindside was final 6, not 7
Ah, I always get that wrong! Thank you for the correction
Susie was very deserving to win the bitter jury of Gabon. Don’t be blinded by that sour and bitter tribe that felt superior and insinuated none of them was desrving over them. Susie blindsided that alliance allowing her to continue to move up in ranks throughout the season and won individual immunities when she was at higher risk. She even had an final 3 alliance with Crystal and Matty showing she was always playing/deserving.
tbf she would've gotten OBLITERATED by matty at that ftc. i love susie and wouldve also liked her to win, but she's a prime example in my eyes of someone whose game looks far more impressive on paper then it actually was
I agree that Matty would of won against her at Final 3, but Based on the players that made the Final 3 - Susie was making moves in the game and deserving.
@@alexd740 yeah she def made more moves then bob (and tbh probably matty who kinda flukes his way into his position off being the sanest member of fang), that said she (and sugar) were on the bottomest of bottoms for basically the entire game and she literally had to be tricked into flipping on marcus by ken and crystal
Lol Amanda lost two seasons basically because she described her game bad at final trouble even though hers was definitely the best
It was not bad...but not better than parv or todd. She deserved 3rd and 2nd.
SEVERAL PURPLE KELLY SIGHTINGS!! WOOT WOOT!! ;)
How about Ralph (Rip) voting for "Filip" in Redemption Island. It was literally the only vote that kept Rob from a unanimous vote.
Ralph didn’t vote for Filip, he voted for Phile
@@baileylynn5562 OH yeah you're right. Lol 😆.
Now that I think about it, I think it might've been Eric who voted for Filip in fans vs favorites 2
@@justinkortuem942 yep, that’s right
@@justinkortuem942 I think Erik voted “Fillup” at Malcolm’s double idol tribal
Abi is a good juror for sure, her question at second chances was very interesting.
Shocked about:
Naseer voting for Erika, Xander was obviously not winning after that Woo 2.0 move but the edit really pushed this for some reason?
Shan/Liana voting for Erika, not because Deshawn had a good game but because the Black alliance.
Rick voting for Gavin, Chris did the same thing Rick did with the EOE part.
JP voting for Ben, still not sure about this one.
Brenda voting for John, after the teeth thing I thought she would let it go and vote for her.
Sundra voting for Yul since the edit tried to show yul/becky with her/ozzy which was inaccurate.
I was really shocked when Candice voted yul, Katie voted Tyson, joe voted Ben, and Taylor voting Adam
I can’t u see the Jimmy T / Malcom thing
Me neither...lol
GOOD GAWD!!
I can
OMG Jimmy T DOES look like Malcolm how have I just realized this?
Marie voting Kenzie
naonka's vote is the only one that truly stands out, because without her's and purple kelly's votes, chase would've for sure won over fabio. i don't even feel like quitters should be allowed to vote on the jury, but i can make an exception with this because fabio truly deserved to win over chase
I would love to see a video about all the clones. We all see it.
“Maybe he wanted her to win the million so she could but some non blurry clothes” lmao
Thank you for posting the video.
i think maybe jefra to tony was a shocker
Grant Mattos voting for Boston Rob. They hated each other, both in the game and after it. But Rob was against 2 such huge goats, I guess he felt he had to vote him.
And then abi saying she would have voted for Denise even if Malcom was brought to the end made me like her a lot more tbh. She was just confused like the whole game.
Are you a millennial or GenZ? This has haunted me for weeks and I need an answer
I think I remember seeing a tweet from Luke saying he's in his 30s. Which would make him a millennial.
9:00 Can you play that again and again and again until I’m Tired?
I always wonder who gave Fabio that 420 vote, I assumed it was Benry, but to find out it was Naonka....
christy went at 6
I don’t think Erik’s vote is that shocking at all. He and Amanda were allies assuring the post-merge, and he was generally closer with her than Courtney or Todd.
Frosti’s was a little surprising, but given how good Todd’s performance was, it’s understandable why anyone would vote for him.
Why was she allowed on the jury after she quit???
bc she quit "playing". thats different than voting as a juror
Parvati voting for Natalie over Tony was shocking. Seriously? A Mt Rushmore player not recognizing Tony as The G.O.A.T.
I'm voting my one of my best friends to win 1 million dollars if I'm a survivor juror. Idc who they're sitting next to, 1 million dollars to my bestie.
She really bonded with Natalie on extinction and never met Tony
@@jacoblangguth5125 im sure they met in passing outside the show but they just never played together in waw so parvati not voting for him makes sense in that regard which makes the whole eoe jury thing even stupider with people on the jury who could have never played with a member of the f3. if i had any surprise about parvatis vote it was that she voted for natalie over michele.
I love Parvati as a player, but as a juror she never votes for the most deserving player. I get she never got to play with Tony, but she’s at the tribal councils and knew Tony was running the game. Even Michelle would’ve been a better option. The only reason is cause they knew each other from the edge which is a pretty unfair advantage.
@@tmm4195 wdym never? the only other time parvati voted on a jury was in cook islands and although yul dominated strategically, becky and ozzy were just as integral to the success of the aitu four and deserving as yul was in my opinion.
Jimmy T is Malcolm’s weird uncle he doesn’t associate with, that’s why he never talks about it.
Naonka was so funny loved her
Quitters don’t deserve ANY acknowledgment
9:49 IM SCREAMING
Na’Onka was iconic. She was hilarious and she made fabulous reality tv.
bruh Chris Noble voting for Dom is one of my favs ever.
Pretty sure Lisa was more strategic
Lisa should have won that season Denise got the bitter vote. Nastiest cast ever and they couldn't admit Lisa outplayed them all. Denise worse winner than Natalie. Don't blame people for hating russel.
I need more info on this nayanka and Fabio bonding around weed thing
Everyone talks about Debbie voting for Michele, but I actually think Nick voting for Aubry was more surprising. They were on different tribes until the merge, and then Nick was the merge boot (after Neal's med-evac).
if I remember correctly nick never respected michele or her game. not surprising he voted for aubry instead
Nick was betrayed by Michele and I think he was the one jury member bitter at Michele.
@@heatherparisi8250 I think he respected her more after she blindsided him. The thing is he felt like he protected Michele in the pre-merge but Michele didn't see it that way because she never went to tribal council in the pre-merge so Nick never built any sort of loyalty towards Michele even though he thought he did.
In his AMA, Nick said that he was aware of the strategical nuances in Aubry's game that other jurors missed.
Yeah Fiji wasn’t going to be another race based season, they just decided to cast exactly like Cook Islands for one more season and then immediately go back to the classic 75 percent white casting for China and beyond because casting was woke for exactly one year and one year only
Naonka voting Fabio