How a 3-Wheeled Car Ended in Murder
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A three-wheeled car that gets 70 to the gallon! Murder in a corporate office! Financial crimes and possible mob ties! A CEO with a surprising past! Even though this story takes place half a century ago, people keep coming back to it. But of all the failed auto start-ups, why are people still captivated by the story of the 20th Century Motor Car Corporation? This is everything you need to know to get up to speed on…The Dale!
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the carlson father-son reveal was honestly the most mindblowing part of this to me
Yup. I gained more respect for them
@@Scisca1a2a More respect for Donut Media or for the Carlsons?
He's been uncovering leftist lies since the beginning
@@dbyrne231 The Carlsons
@@Scisca1a2a me too 😎
I'm suprised you guys didn't mention the revival of the scam with the Elio three wheeled car that promised the exact same thing and has been taking deposits for the last 10 years without producing anything.
That is the first thing I thought about when I saw the thumbnail for this.
Ironically just like at 13:30, my mom works in New York and they had a working prototype there for everyone to see
I'm surprised you guys didn't mention the scam with the Beetle car that promised to give everybody in Germany a car but then taking the money it earned to do some not good things.
Yes, I have a customer every time I come mulch I ask when his Elio is getting delivered. I think he’s been waiting 7 years now same with his tesla power wall or something even though he doesn’t own a tesla but a Bentley, old Porsche and an amg wagon.
For real, I got an old '73 suzuki enduro in trade a couple years ago that may look a little beat up but starts first kick every time! I can't believe it was built 50 years ago by men in japan that are probably long gone by now.
My uncle worked for GE/GE Plastics back in the day and he was part of the team that would go around and demonstrate the properties of Lexan (polycarbonate plastic). To show its versatility in molding they would hand out Lexan beer mugs (I still have a few) and another property was its ability to stop bullets so, of course, they shot at panels of it. This was the early to mid-70s obviously inspiring the folks at 20th Century Motor Car who apparently got their wires crossed because you weren't supposed to shoot at the Lexan mugs.
Oh, this makes a lot of sense!
I guess James feels annoyed every time he has to mention the gas crisis, but he shouldn't have. The gas crisis is intertwined with car history.
Which one? The first or the second?
@@bettycocker2226 I can imagine him having a "No Regerts" tattoo now.
@@bettycocker2226 please explain exactly how Biden caused the gas crisis
@@bettycocker2226 or get this…it’s really not that deep
The biggest crime in this whole video is James pointing out that the 70's were "half a century ago"! That's an aggressive reality check!
Imma go get my walker...
It is also weird to hear that I was born in the late 1900s...
All the boomers are angry
@@derrickstorm6976, I'm a millennial...
@@silmarian Come on grandma, lets get you to bed
I hope there was an Up To Speed/Past Gas episode about Stirling Moss, one of the so-called best F1 drivers who never won a single championship. I wanna know why he is considered one of the GOATs despite no F1 title to his name
Yup, there's a past gas episode
Hell yeah
Because there's more to sports than just titles
There is
Jim Clark was better!
Great report. Your presentation, visuals and well documented time-line made for the best telling of this story I have seen. Thank you.
Check out Seduced By Speed on Motorteend. Full 45 minute episode on the Dale, and ecerything toed to it.
I dont think there is any channel out there that puts their heart into everything they do like james. This man literally makes a workout out of presenting I love the heart, fantastic video.
Donut Media has a team of people that make informative and entertaining car videos for sure, but there are people like me who do it all by themselves. I hope you'll enjoy this one too! czcams.com/video/K7OLe62H01A/video.html
These features are gold. Thanks for doing a deep dive into these stories. Car culture is more than just tires and rims.
I had no clue the high-low vehicles were in a museum. Thats something I definitely need to check out if I visit
They are?
@@kevinrueb3941 I think most people would just call it a junkyard
@@kevinrueb3941 yeah he mentions it in the video, they're in the Petersen automotive museum.
I read about this quite a while ago when I was collecting 70s magazines. Crazy story and I like that it comes back around every so often on CZcams.
Wow, this was far more fascinating (and incredibly well-told) than I expected. Great work, Donut.
This entire video was made for the “Vector, hardly even knew her” joke. And I totally approve! 👍🏼👍🏼
Given the previous scam, it’s hard to say the Dale was ever intended to be a serious venture. But this is the first I’ve ever heard about it. I can wait to get off work so I can look into it more because this is a really intriguing story.
They did a whole podcast on Liz iirc. Past Gas Podcast
@@Javierm0n0 i used to watch their podcast all the time, but they stopped doing face cams and stuff. Idk. I don’t watch it as much as I used to, but I’ll give that episode a listen. Thanks.
@@nighthawkcm8872 np
There is a show on I think Hulu called the dale. It's all about this. Might be HBO too
Regular Car Reviews has a really good story on this. It's available on CZcams and as a podcast
Brings up bad memories of giving Paul Elio $1000 of my hard earned money figuring "the Dale saga" couldn't ever happen again in this day and age.
You're a great story teller, dude. I was enthralled from start to finish.
0:52 i didn't knew donut media could make John cena do a sponsor segment for them
Damn! I vaguely remember hearing about the Dale, it was a bit before my time. All I knew was that it was a car company that flopped. I didn’t realize there was this crazy story behind it! You all do such amazing work!
I love how the titles change after a few hours on every Donut video
You guys are the best thing on CZcams. James never stop making videos please.
"The only thing separating a get rich quick scheme from entrepreneurial genius is how successful they get"
As good as that line is, I don't think it applies in this case. When the person in charge of the company already has a history of fraud, it's hard to prove the Dale was anything more than a crash grab.
@@joshjlmgproductions3313 That would make more sense if there were never any prototypes being built or demonstrations to try and gain more investors, after all she already had the money from the deposits, she could have just dropped everything then and left. That's how most scams work, promise the moon, get the money, get out. You definitely wouldn't pour your swindled money into actual R&D. It definitely seems like they were genuinely trying to get into the business.
How does Donut always have great content every single day which is high effort and well thought out. You gotta give it to the team
Beat me by 11 seconds
dont care
@@MiguelRivera24437 👍🏻
I’m more concerned with the level of commitment to the thumbnail pic faces
Faxx 🙌
Anyone obsessed enough with Ayn Rand to name a company after her is a huge red flag lol
This entire story was a rollercoaster!
What happened to the guy that was in the "audience" that James always talked to??? I miss him, bring him back!
Sadly he became Jamesina and she moved to Massachusetts
@@desdicadoric and started the first women's car company ran by a man, oops I mean second.
I remember watching that Unsolved Mysteries episode as a kid (hard to forget a car that looks like that) and never realized that she was caught.
You guys do such a great job of story telling. Love it!
Yo I've always been a car guy, and have loved this channel, but I recently showed my GF donut media and she has fallen in love with pumphrey🤣, every time I put it on she gets all happy and says " hey its my favorite CZcamsr (pumphrey ofc) , she now understands my love for cars and has found a way to understand my love for cars and their history thanks to this man 😁
Imagine a time when reporters actually reported stuff.
Hunter’s laptop…….
They do now too, those reports just don't get published.
Let's go, Brandon!
Imagine thinking everything is a conspiracy lol
Now they just bury the hatchet and move on.
Donut doing true crime? I'm in.
Car culture has a shitton of stuff like this .
This is my absolute favorite episode of your show. Very well done and well written. Nicely done, James.
Yo, dude, thank you for this facinating story of the Dale. I never knew and there was a lot that you revealed in detail. Awesome job of covering this subject and her/him. Peace!
I was wondering why I did not remember this incident until I heard the years involved…1973 - 1974. I was at Missouri trying to graduate with an Accounting Degree. Still, I thought I was keeping up with the world. I guess not. Very interesting video. Thank you. Reid.
Indeed. Keeping up with the world was completely different back then though. We live in some damn crazy times these days.
Comments like this make me realize why everybody thinks the world is a hellhole now. Every single bad thing that’s happened is instantly known to everyone. We need to stop reading so much news all the time, it’s so easy to feel hopeless that way.
Always wanted you to tell this story, very well done. Thank you
I'm pretty sure there's a podcast episode about it! I've definitely heard this story before in a donut video
Would love an episode on lemans/group c racing in the late 80s/early 90s! An episode on dtm or btcc racing would be sick too!!
This will Included Rotary Engines ? (: 🙌
DTM, YES!
the best video on the Dale is RCR but donut did an awesome job bringing the tale of the Dale to a bigger audience 👏
I love these Donut Media mini documentaries. Putting that unique Donut take on a very compelling story in Automotive History, really gets me excited about learning more about history in general. Channels like Donut make watching and listening to automotive history, fun and entertaining as Jeremy Clarkson has done for every documentary he has narrated for the BBC, Top Gear, and The Grand Tour. I'm anxiously looking forward to the next video.
I gotta tell you the Donut is one of the few car influencers I follow on CZcams because you guys give to the ACLU you have humor and common sense and also a true sense of fairness and you don’t subscribe to the bullshit that Fox News pumps out. I am proud to be one of your subscribers.
I don't regret not skipping that ad segment
A fascinating story told in a very (and surprisingly) sympathetic way. Props to you, James!
Exactly what i was thinking, I love the tone they used in this. Donut is nice people.
@@sethmarcell1131 it’s not nice to support mentally ill criminals in their delusions
Sympathetic? To a fucking con artist? Y'all need to seriously check your mental health if you feel sympathy towards someone who fucking stole money from people.
Whats there to sympathize on when a person is stealing peoples money? Smh
@@kjh4112 I feel like there's too much sympathy because of transgenderism in this video i could care less about the persons gender.
The Elio was a scam from the start, they were looking at three or four front different wheel drive deals, mostly the three cylinder Metro or Suzuki engines, but the Goons at GM didnt want to sell those surplus engines to a competitor, most people I heard, never got their deposits back, for a car that was never built
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James looks great, keep it up man definitely look like you are in a healthier state! 😃
I contacted the zebra to find me car insurance and then they blew up my phone will calls, texts and emails 24/7 for a week. Don't recommend
same. perfect sponsor for an episode on trans people
Just like every other company
@@fauxtool952 go on, do tell more
@@fauxtool952 why even have the "faux" if you're such an actual tool
I tried the Zebra, it gave me 1 option for insurance, and now I'm getting a massive influx of spam emails everyday that get around the spam/junk filters
Hey everyone at donut media, My son and I love your channel we watch every video (he's 7 i'm 36).. lately he's been really getting into cars.. he knows nearly every one we drive by on the road.. I'm pretty handy.. can do most car repairs myself.. but never ventured down the road of a "project car" His love of cars is amazing.. he helps me whenever i do anything on my wifes and i's (05' Silverado ss- and my 08 Trailblazer ss) he's my tool go getter, my socket finder... i would LOVE to get into a project car build, not something that will be done overnight as he's only 7... but something me and him can spend a few years on making it desireable to hand off to him when he's of age to actually drive it, as it'll be his first car.. i don't want some monster 1k hrsprs but have it be possible once he's got a good handle on driving I've seen all your project car videos.. would really just love to know your inside knowledge on the car world as what older model 70's-80's cars preferably V8.. have a great customizability value, to help build a long lasting bond and project to do with my son much appreciated guys keep up the incredible content .............Love you :D
What a journey. Well done, team. Keep up the great work.
As a Trans person who is into cars, almost all of the car shows I watch on CZcams use lazy jokes about gender non conforming people. The way you speak about Trans issues in this story is A++ Thanks for the respectful language and not shying away from having a full conversation, Rather than centering it around her gender, for clicks, as the media did back in the day, and usually still do. Great work team
Stoked as to be a watcher.
Healthiest James has looked in a long time, whatever you are doing it's working man!
Yeah, he got pretty rough looking a few weeks ago and I was actually pretty concerned. He was way too red and flustered looking.
This may get buried, but this video is drop-dead amazing. You guys are killing it!
I see what you did there😂
Incredible story, amazing story teller - thank you
This was a super good episode!
Do an up to speed on Tatra finally. They have everything. 3rd oldest car manufacturer, being copied by Porsche, Dakar trucks, Mad Max trucks, starring in Kanye video, big aircooled V8s, killing nazis. Like what more do you want?
The same Tatra who makes trolleys for Euroup?
@@CaseysTrains At some part of history (the early 1900's) they were a part of the same company Ringhoffer-Tatra. Ringhoffer making trolleys/trams in Prague, and Tatra making vehicles in Kopřivnice.
Upto speed is one of the best series to ever grace the entire face of the golugolu. Thank you Jimmy.
golugolu
Love the up to speed series. Would love to see an up to speed for DeTomaso and/or Mosler!
probably the best car insurance ad ive ever seen
This was a phenomenal, fascinating episode, well done all!
you should make an up to speed episode on the chaos hypercar really interesting(trust)
Very interesting story and really well done! Great job, James & Donut! 🐧
how about a series following how to get started in track days and going through what happens at a track day going from novice to advanced classes and maybe even through race school to get licensed as an amateur racer...
Liz was such a con. All attributes aside. She was a con artist. Everything was a lie. The Lady and the Dale on HBO was a great series.
Even Liz her/him self was a lie....😉
@@lightning95sc except it wasn’t? She literally lived as a woman. That’s truth
@@djalex8080 Did you not see the wink? It was a joke. I'm well aware of the story....long before this video. I do have a question, though. Where did the 5 kids come from?
@@kjh4112 what does the year have to do with anything?
Did you not see where I said it was a joke? Stop taking yourself so seriously...I don't.
@@kjh4112 You are reading wayyy too much into a comment that DID NOT mean any of what you think. You don't know me and DO NOT assume you do from an erroneous comment made on the interwebs. This is a dead conversation...let it go!!!
Every since I found yalls channel around 2-3 years ago I always hoped y’all would make an episode on the Dale!
If it is just a container around a motorcycle, why was this hard to reach the point where you can build a factory for this? What was charging them so much money that they could not build a single unit despite millions of pre-order deposits?
They were.....drum rolls.... completing their basic mechanical engineering degrees.
Well this episode escalated quickly...
She had some balls trying to pull off the same scam twice.
I see what you did there😂
That’s not really that funny bud. I don’t think other trans women would find this very respectful.
@@KatAspen is this sarcasm? Or are you for real? Because this is a joke about a criminal who changed his identity to avoid law enforcement, not because he believed he was a woman. This man was not trans, he was a career criminal and a con man.
@@gregorygreif8271 glad you know for certain she wasn’t trans. For a second there, I was sure she was indeed trans, on behalf of all the work that went into actually medically and socially transitioning, being called the most affirming pronouns and name in her everyday life, and continuing to live as a woman beyond what would have been necessary if it were “a con.” It turns out, you can be trans AND a bad person. Being a bad person doesn’t mean you can dismiss someone’s identity and their struggles. Just a simple acknowledgment. Everyone deserves respect and basic human dignity, even criminals. It’s not a debate.
@@KatAspen me affirming peoples mental illness doesn’t help anyone. You can call me Mr Business but It doesn’t make me the cat from Bobs Burgers, however much I want to pretend I’m a cat.
I didn't think I would like this video but what a ride that was, Thanks dNut
Hey, did i mention that i really like Donut? I do. Keep up the good work, this was good content.
No one is asking the very obvious question: “What role did L.W Right play in all of this?”… Surely he was involved somehow… Probably the test driver during the investor demo.
I know this will probably get buried in the comments, but I am a trans woman and I have to say that I’m really happy about the way you guys approached the topic. It sucks to say, but I don’t expect to hear this kind of supportive language about trans stuff coming from the car community very much. I think it’s great that y’all had her gendered properly and didn’t bow to any ideas that her transness was an inherent part of the illegal things she did 🖤
It's 5 months into the future, but me too :) I'm sure there are literally dozens of trans women into cars, haha! I knew these were cool guys, though.
I agree with you entirely
I'm constantly on edge about my identity around car junkies for this exact reason, and it's really nice to see things like this. Very reassuring
@@RealShebang there are DOZENS of us!
Hiiiiii 💜💜💜
Wow James, I really enjoyed this mini-documentary man......never knew about any of this, and I was born in '70! thank you!
This was way better than the HBO doc. Great job, Donut!
yah this is a story i knew, and it's complicated. this retelling focused on the important things and not the gawky parts. respect. fosho gawk away though; what a crazy life they led. the donut podcast is excellent followup for this amazing story.
@@SB-pf5rc I completely agree, I knew the Dale story too and was really interested in hearing James's retelling of it and it was, of course, great.
Trikes need a weight bias over the 2 wheel end for stability. With that layout most of the weight is in the real
That cyber truck clip will never stop being hilarious
I can’t believe this just came out what an amazing episode
The original “Girlboss Gatekeep Gaslight.”
best comment
Excellent video, James is such a great narrator/ storyteller. I’ve watched Donut a few years now and it’s cool to see everyone’s progression. Very legit group of people 👍🏻
I did NOT have Tucker Carlson on my Donut Bingo card. What a ride.
i had watched a documentary with my dad about this brand years ago, and always forgot the name of the brand but not the story. thank you for reuniting me with this bombshell of a company😂
Damnn there is no way not to click with such a title 😍 Love the uploads as always donut .. i take alot of editing tricks from ur videos .. so thanks 😝😜
@sitiy "23" Quit spamming
Regular Car Reviews did another amazing video on this! Definitely worth a watch!!!
I would watch if rcr wasn't so pretentious. The guy really is making use of his worthless English degree.
Rcr is awesome all around
why am i finding this out on donut? wow awesome best story
You guys outdid yourselves with this one. Great work!
The cyber truck is objectively garbage, yes. The windows get all the bad press despite doing exactly what you expect from bullet proof glass. Anyone who has spent any amount of time in an MRAP in a combat zone saw that end result happening. You would swear the 6 year olds were throwing faster than Randy Johnson in his prime.
You right lmao but people don’t care lol which sucks
Not so related, but any idea why the Cybertruck hasn't been built yet? Apart from the microchip shortage issue. It's been *four years* since they announced it and unveiled the design, and other companies they beat to the EV market, like Ford and GM, are already producing electric trucks, in low numbers because of the chip shortage, but still producing.
@@damilolaakanni my father was an 18 wheeler mechanic for almost 40 years before he physically couldn't do it anymore and he summed up all electronic trucks like this.
The amount of weight in batteries needed to pull a standard truckers load load with current technology isn't realist, safe, financially possible and would probably collapse most bridges in the US right now.
My opinion on the cyber truck though is this. Who is buying a truck to do real truck shit and wants to make it electric? It works in big cities for attention, but right now it can't fulfill the practical needs of people who require a truck.
Elon is a smart man. He probably saw that his buying base was LA and NY and realized it wasn't worth the effort. So he made better space ships.
@@damilolaakanni also, no. EVs were made decades ago by many different companies. They just never caught on.
@@Ryanbmc4 I mean, a lot of trucks are just status symbols these days.
Still waiting for an up to speed on James dad!
This is a good tale for a movie serial! :)
Best video Donut made in a while
So basically " Dale " was the cybertruck of the 70s
I hope Donut will do an episode of Up to Speed about Proton, a Malaysian car company which co-op with Mitsubishi. Or even Perodua, the second Malaysian car company co-op with Toyota and Daihatsu.
@Hall of Legends 6365 The Bricklin!!! I was trying think of that a couple of weeks ago but I could jog the brain enough to recall the name. THANK YOU!
Amazing srory, alot of details that were crazy
I love stuff like this that I can listen to while driving home without losing much from not seeing the video. CZcams podcasts
I think the "pleatherdome" joke was top notch
That was an elite joke for sure
I remember watching that episode of Unsolved Mysteries as a kid. I didn’t understand the trans aspect of the story and just thought she was using a disguise so she could bounce with the cash at some point.
That's exactly what happened, but you can't say anything discounting the legitimacy of trans people in 2022.
@@zacharyswartwood218 then why did she live as a woman until she died? Time to give up the long con at that point.
@@mikekraut7643 wouldn't you think that she would have abandoned the female identity the second after she escaped the first time to Florida? Or the SECOND time while on bail? Did we even watch the same video?
@@notsaab There's a lot of vitriol and hate towards trans people. People who'd rather see people die than change their mind, as I've learned from trying to teach empathy towards trans folk.
That's usually how it's presented, even today. There's more money in pointing and laughing than in empathy.
This was a great video and good way to end it mentioning entrepreneurial spirit.
That Zebra ad was so creative and funny it reminded me of Geico commercials
This person should not be a trans icon. She was a con artist that stole people's money and was rightfully imprisoned.
Yeah, I'm a bit confused why he's painting her in a sympathetic light. Would he have done the same with someone like bernie madoff?
@@brianho4933 I didn't think our guy here is painting this criminal in a sympathetic light so much as they're clarifying that being transgender wasn't the thing that they did wrong - the actual crimes were. If there was one thing an average person knew about that criminal back then, it's that they were transgender. Forget the actual crimes, they were painted as a transgender deviant. That was primary in the media, and it was fucked up.
Honestly, Donut tends to go neutral with scandal people talks, giving both thumbs ups and thumbs downs depending on how interesting the specific things they did were. Neither support nor villianizing, but a full focus on the 'wow'. This was all about on-par with the talk on the Nissan Ex-CEO.
Agreed 100%, and the reporter who covered this, and exposed this fraud did great work, so more people did not scammed, and his Son Tucker should not have been dragged into the mud(HBO did the same BS).
Even when in hiding in the 80's she/he/it/whatever you want to call them, pulled flowers on the corner scams conning people into working for her for next to nothing, while still dogging the cops, and the IRS, and the family admitted it all on camera.
@@Heimdal001 That would be fine except he didn’t really cover that at all. I never knew about this until recently, so didn’t know how this was covered in the media. He presented it as a story about a woman dreaming big and trying to make a name for herself, only to not live up to expectations. Oh and she was actually born a man. And tucker carlson’s dad’s a pos for exposing her. At no point did he delve into how the media portrayed her and that it had nothing to do with the fact that she scammed people out of their money and it was only because she was a man identified as a woman. To me, at best this came off as a sympathetic take on the story of a con artist and at worst, its straight up gaslighting.
No one should be, let's be honest
This was so well put together. 100 points for separating her trans identity from her scammy bullshit 💛
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IIRC, there was an article I read about the Dale flipping during it's test run and that it was actually caused by a civilian getting too close to the Dale, since they were curious about it's design, and inadvertently hitting the car thus making it flip.
Ah yes, hitting a car, making it flip. Like a 70's cartoon.
The Zebra really said “we want to work with you but we think invisible people would be more personable than any of you guys”
no they didn't want to put their face on a scam company probably
Donut is one of the best channels of your new to the car community! You will get a lot of knowledge. Keep watching donut if your new!
This became a wild ride in a hurry
I’m a Trans guy 8.5 months on testosterone. I love cars and today I had some really hard things happen, I was harassed in public today and treated pretty coldly by people who knew me before transitioning, I came home and put a donut video on. I wasn’t prepared for someone I admire to openly support my community after all of the hardships I’ve been through lately, I just cried for the first time in months. It feels lately like everyone hates us so seeing someone openly defend us is beyond refreshing, so thank you. Ordering merch now
youll never be a man.
Can we please get an up to speed on top gear/grand tour pls??