Jennifer and James Crumbley read statements before sentencing verdict given: Full video

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  • čas přidán 8. 04. 2024
  • A judge sentenced both James and Jennifer Crumbley to 10-15 years in prison for their roles in the 2021 Oxford High School mass shooting committed by their son, who murdered four students, injured seven other people and terrorized a community using a gun that he had long begged for.

Komentáře • 727

  • @davidgori4500
    @davidgori4500 Před měsícem +50

    The only person in the room dumber than Mrs. Crumbley is Mrs. Crumbley's lawyer.

  • @catlink8998
    @catlink8998 Před měsícem +227

    The attorney of Jennifer Crumbley is a detriment to her client. Her behavior, delivery, and arguments simply emphasize self-entitlement and blame-shifting. This is one case where the client would have done better representing themself.

    • @lovepet4565
      @lovepet4565 Před měsícem +14

      She looks like an evil Chatty Cathy doll
      ( one I had growing up in 60s)

    • @wolfe6220
      @wolfe6220 Před měsícem +11

      ​@@lovepet4565 OMG, me too! It terrified me into nightmares for 45 years! Glad I wasn't the only one.

    • @Piat65
      @Piat65 Před měsícem +3

      And looking for a new roommate/ honey

    • @denisesorenson4000
      @denisesorenson4000 Před měsícem +5

      So did Jennifer get her 10 to 15 years at her Lawyers Guest house like she wanted???

    • @lovepet4565
      @lovepet4565 Před měsícem +3

      @@denisesorenson4000 nope

  • @Obsidian_Iris_
    @Obsidian_Iris_ Před měsícem +143

    Her entire statement can be summarized as “It’s anyone’s fault but ours, but especially not mine.” All of this time, after everything that has happened, and she didn’t learned a thing.

    • @mepulley7913
      @mepulley7913 Před měsícem +12

      You said it perfectly.

    • @j.dunlop8295
      @j.dunlop8295 Před měsícem +6

      Depraved (heart) Indifference is best understood as an utter disregard. for the value of human life- a willingness to act not because one intends harm, but because one simply doesn't care whether grievous harm results or not!

    • @j.dunlop8295
      @j.dunlop8295 Před měsícem +4

      Both tried to blame the school! Father wanted, parole with time served! Ankle monitor!

    • @traceyarnaud8433
      @traceyarnaud8433 Před měsícem +9

      @@j.dunlop8295 These two are reprehensible

    • @gailmarie65
      @gailmarie65 Před měsícem +1

      Unless they stop all the denial of everything they did wrong and how they failed their son they will have a very tough time in prison. I’m not holding my breath that they will as they’re FAR from it

  • @DaturaHellebore
    @DaturaHellebore Před měsícem +82

    His mother...still NO accountability! He was telling you he was hearing voices and having hallucinations! At a minimum they should have taken him to professionals so THEY could confirm or not, that his statements were fake. His parents just choosing to decide that for him, was COMPLETELY irresponsible!

    • @Piat65
      @Piat65 Před měsícem +4

      💯

    • @kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934
      @kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934 Před měsícem +6

      And buying him a gun after she was aware of his state of mind, hearing voices and having hallucinations

    • @kerstieamiya4880
      @kerstieamiya4880 Před měsícem +2

      @@kathyinwonderlandl.a.8934that right there is INSANE to me like why in tf would someone ever do that

    • @nuorigin
      @nuorigin Před měsícem

      They decided to give him a gun

  • @cmn1035
    @cmn1035 Před měsícem +77

    She still has zero accountability in her mind wow

  • @jackiecarson859
    @jackiecarson859 Před měsícem +94

    Quick reminder - these 'parents', as soon as their kid was arrested, went on the lam. They ran away. Basically, *they ditched their own son.* They booked it to Detroit, possibly on their way to Windsor, Ontario, Canada. The Detroit police department received a tip from a business owner, and arrested them. *There was no indication that the Crumbleys had planned to surrender.*

    • @tmholtry
      @tmholtry Před měsícem +18

      They also cleaned out their son's bank account that day, more than $3,000.

    • @sandramichaud8033
      @sandramichaud8033 Před měsícem +8

      Thanks for that reminder. Needs more emphasis when this is shown.

    • @sandramichaud8033
      @sandramichaud8033 Před měsícem +8

      @@tmholtryglad they were convicted. They deserve every day. I’m hoping prison justice will take hold

    • @robynpayne9448
      @robynpayne9448 Před měsícem +1

      I feel as though the sentencing doesn't take this into account.

  • @tiffanyoneill8718
    @tiffanyoneill8718 Před měsícem +105

    Never took her son to a therapist in all his years.

    • @j.dunlop8295
      @j.dunlop8295 Před měsícem +1

      Depraved (heart) Indifference is best understood as an utter disregard. for the value of human life- a willingness to act not because one intends harm, but because one simply doesn't care whether grievous harm results or not!

    • @LadyDazzleDance
      @LadyDazzleDance Před měsícem +4

      Didn't you listen to her statement? She didn't think he son was having any trouble. She didn't know he was having issues at school. Hello......anyone in there!

    • @LadyNightsong
      @LadyNightsong Před měsícem +6

      @@LadyDazzleDance They chose not to cooperate with the school when they wanted him removed from class. Heellllloooo why are they giving their school aged child a gun??? I grew up in a house with guns, everything was always locked or put somewhere we didn't have access to unless supervised. They fucked up and now gonna pay the price as they deserve.

    • @paulschab8152
      @paulschab8152 Před měsícem

      Do gangbangers go to therapy? This whole case is a liberal parade...

  • @happybergner9832
    @happybergner9832 Před měsícem +53

    She needs to take responsibility for the part SHE played in these murders.

  • @ABab-jf2jb
    @ABab-jf2jb Před měsícem +82

    The trials are over, and the jury found them both guilty. Why did the lawyer keep babbling! Shut up and go, please.

    • @arcana_mystery
      @arcana_mystery Před měsícem +3

      For real not woman is absolutely nauseating

    • @Maui_Gyrl_
      @Maui_Gyrl_ Před měsícem +1

      This is so wrong!! The parents did nothing wrong! They should not be going to jail bc the kid made a bad decision.

    • @chriswiland
      @chriswiland Před měsícem +1

      @@Maui_Gyrl_ they bought him a gun and did not secure it. They are 1000% at fault for all those people dying. Their actions are what caused this to happen. If that was one of your kids that got killed. I’m sure you might see a differently.😳

    • @369blueneptune
      @369blueneptune Před měsícem

      She keeps blathering because she finds it absolutely unacceptable that she lost the case. She behaves like a person with a severe case of N.P.D. Sadly, her client's best interest is secondary to the needs of her fragile ego.

    • @369blueneptune
      @369blueneptune Před měsícem

      ​@@Maui_Gyrl_ You're so far off base and lost in some really dubious emotional thinking which is how you arrived at your incorrect conclusion.

  • @Trobtwillis
    @Trobtwillis Před měsícem +51

    14:32
    Good on Judge for calling b.s. on defense rhetoric.

  • @ericahope3007
    @ericahope3007 Před měsícem +152

    Jennifer has no remorse and her lawyer is beyond disrespectful and has no empathy for these families, I can’t continue to listen to her.

    • @Teresa-Anne
      @Teresa-Anne Před měsícem +1

      Then don’t listen to her. 🤣 🙄

    • @kathleenclement1406
      @kathleenclement1406 Před měsícem +2

      I thought her letter was the correct way a Mother would feel...it changed half way through...from good letter to not so good ..she should have stopped while she was a head

    • @kellybrus8663
      @kellybrus8663 Před měsícem +10

      It was absolutely nauseating. Empty words. She's not the least bit sorry. The husband was just as bad

    • @arcana_mystery
      @arcana_mystery Před měsícem

      Her lawyer is an abomination and should be disbarred.

    • @ericahope3007
      @ericahope3007 Před měsícem +6

      @@Teresa-Anne I turned her off!

  • @emilykay115
    @emilykay115 Před měsícem +104

    The fact the school notified them of the concerning behavior as well as parents having access to all grades shows she's still lying to refuse accountability for her ooor parenting.

    • @mepulley7913
      @mepulley7913 Před měsícem +15

      A person who has true integrity and dignity would apologize and say she was wrong. This woman, No such thing.

    • @acespace7255
      @acespace7255 Před měsícem +4

      Nice acceptance speech. .....of your prison sentence

  • @catherinerheaume8522
    @catherinerheaume8522 Před měsícem +76

    She’s unique!!!! She can shoot it, carry it and store it in the trunk but she CANNOT lock it. The 10 seconds is tooooo HARD.

    • @Charmander009
      @Charmander009 Před měsícem

      It’s not required by law to lock up guns at that time. They change the law now.

    • @wolfe6220
      @wolfe6220 Před měsícem +6

      Makes me wonder if the guy she was having the affair with is secretly relieved she got sentenced for so long.
      It gives him time to change his name and move across the country.

    • @reneetuer3525
      @reneetuer3525 Před měsícem +5

      I'm sure his wife is happy she's gone.

    • @LadyNightsong
      @LadyNightsong Před měsícem

      @@Charmander009 its not require by law that you take your kid to the dentist or teach them to tie their shoes, but somehow parents manage to figure that out. Locking up guns and keeping them away from kids while unsupervised is Gun Safety 101. No excuse for these scumbags

    • @SusieQ1971
      @SusieQ1971 Před měsícem

      😂😅

  • @ABab-jf2jb
    @ABab-jf2jb Před měsícem +53

    The father asked for time served! I am shocked to hear such nonsense.

    • @jborden18
      @jborden18 Před měsícem +8

      Mom too!! Saying she's "scared for her life" at the thought of going to prison

    • @StephanieJo219
      @StephanieJo219 Před měsícem +1

      @@jborden18but but she would serve it in Shannon’s guest house 😂😅

    • @jborden18
      @jborden18 Před měsícem +2

      @@StephanieJo219 I wish I had a house big enough to tell a friend, hey girl, just stay in my guest house. 😂😂😅🤣

  • @jokingrudolf76
    @jokingrudolf76 Před měsícem +55

    Neither one of the parents are truly remorseful nor do they take any responsibility for how they enabled their son while ignoring the warning signs--they both blame others for what happened. It's sickening.

    • @wolfe6220
      @wolfe6220 Před měsícem +10

      I thought the husband was going to superman over the bench and attack the judge. I see where Ethan got a lot of his instability from.

    • @Piat65
      @Piat65 Před měsícem +4

      Nope and she never got the care that her son was begging for.

    • @alisongaber190
      @alisongaber190 Před měsícem +2

      He appears genuinely remorseful and somewhat accountable.
      She is disgusting in her blaming others, the school to the prosecution.
      She's a sad excuse for a parent and a human..her words speak volumes as to how her son became such a f.u. young man.
      Her gall and lack of insight when she says this could happen to any family left me incensed.

    • @jokingrudolf76
      @jokingrudolf76 Před měsícem

      You and I must not have watched the same coverage. He kept saying "the truth will come out." He asked for time served and probation and they are both appealing their sentences. Neither of them admit any wrongdoing. @@alisongaber190

    • @Piat65
      @Piat65 Před měsícem +2

      @@alisongaber190 Parent(s) both are responsible

  • @usersmoop
    @usersmoop Před měsícem +61

    How did her lawyer approve this pathetic statement ?

    • @kc-lp6wg
      @kc-lp6wg Před měsícem +16

      Her lawyer approved of the statement because she is as clueless as her client.

    • @StephanieJo219
      @StephanieJo219 Před měsícem +2

      She probably wrote it lol

  • @jg0346
    @jg0346 Před měsícem +106

    Find it hard to understand why the lawyer is allowed to try to re-argue the case after the client has been convicted by a jury. Neither the lawyer nor Mrs. Crumbley are willing to accept facts proven in court.

    • @user-mo6tz6oh9i
      @user-mo6tz6oh9i Před měsícem +11

      Yes! What an unprofessional lawyer!

    • @Piat65
      @Piat65 Před měsícem +2

      Exactly

    • @langlang9326
      @langlang9326 Před měsícem +3

      For the appeals. The defense always does this.

    • @denisesorenson4000
      @denisesorenson4000 Před měsícem +3

      I think this lawyer has a crush on the Mrs.......

    • @janetdurkee8527
      @janetdurkee8527 Před měsícem +2

      Agreed- she just bought her client more time in prison. What a dope!!

  • @shelleystrong8673
    @shelleystrong8673 Před měsícem +129

    Master class in how to NOT take responsibility for one’s actions even while shuffling your way to prison. She will never get it.

    • @victorvelazquez1190
      @victorvelazquez1190 Před měsícem +1

      😅😅😅lol..started out good..then pause and asked judge n court for shovel to bury himself.

    • @kimthreadgold2755
      @kimthreadgold2755 Před měsícem

      So true

    • @kimthreadgold2755
      @kimthreadgold2755 Před měsícem +5

      Bottom line is Ethan took the unlocked gun to school on Nov. 30th and even after school invited parents on the 30th, they stayed 15 minutes. Saw a picture of Ethan holding a gun and shooting up kids in school.
      She didn't want to take Ethan home because she wanted to see her bf at 4pm

    • @kimthreadgold2755
      @kimthreadgold2755 Před měsícem

      If only the stupid ass hadn't bought his son a gun.
      As a parent, if I took my son to counseling when he asked multiple times, things would be different .
      He hasn't been able to speak with his family just like the clients.

    • @kimthreadgold2755
      @kimthreadgold2755 Před měsícem +3

      What exactly is the truth James Crumbly believes hasn't been brought out to court. I guess when you are a negligent parent, crying conspiracy is your only hope.

  • @nancylux9593
    @nancylux9593 Před měsícem +99

    She has gained wisdom of power to forgive ..the prosecution ?????? You've got to be kidding me. She really should not have gone there. Lost all credibility

    • @Legacybyt
      @Legacybyt Před měsícem

      That’s why she sitting in the seat that she’s in is because of her failure of self-awareness

    • @Ezinma88
      @Ezinma88 Před měsícem +3

      You still thought she had credibility?

    • @---C_B---
      @---C_B--- Před měsícem

      I nearly spat my tea out 🙄🤦🏼‍♀️

  • @aliasenigma3265
    @aliasenigma3265 Před měsícem +36

    Imagine she doesn't see she was at fault for anything, she is blaming the school as if the school bought the gun or as if the school was responsible for safe guarding the school, as if the kids that got kill was just an unfortunate coincidence and nothing more, that woman is sick, both of them are monsters

    • @StephanieJo219
      @StephanieJo219 Před měsícem +1

      Monsters? I don’t agreee with their statements however that school is 1,000%’ to blame as well.

  • @deborahandradebajo7395
    @deborahandradebajo7395 Před měsícem +118

    Jennifer never addressed why she didn't tell the school that Ethan was given a gun, that fact could have saved lives that day.

    • @kahledblackman318
      @kahledblackman318 Před měsícem +6

      That would take her bring somewhat accountable for her actions. She does not process that ability.

    • @Teresa-Anne
      @Teresa-Anne Před měsícem

      And neither did James! So what’s your point. 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @jackiejohnson7158
      @jackiejohnson7158 Před měsícem +2

      I really wish they would have addressed that. If they had done only that, this might not have ever occurred.

    • @user-cb6re8yd8e
      @user-cb6re8yd8e Před měsícem +2

      No ones gonna admit fault bc I’m pretty sure they’re both gonna appeal their sentences

    • @Howdygirl11
      @Howdygirl11 Před měsícem +5

      Neither parent mentioned their little chucky owned a gun because they were both very arrogant, self indulged, and didn't care!

  • @marymargaretaguilar3578
    @marymargaretaguilar3578 Před měsícem +29

    Shut up Shannon!!! Worst lawyer EVER! She makes me need a drink!!! I love the way the judge is basically saying "shut up" in more polite words

  • @JanisAllen-vx6fl
    @JanisAllen-vx6fl Před měsícem +38

    I wish Jennifer’s atty would stop talking. She is trying to start this trial all over again.

  • @tigeygirl
    @tigeygirl Před měsícem +72

    Still not taking responsibility. Disgusting.

    • @bmorecareful3723
      @bmorecareful3723 Před měsícem +2

      Just imagine if we started to charging parents in the inner city with crimes their kids commit, everyone would be crying racism

  • @user-mo6tz6oh9i
    @user-mo6tz6oh9i Před měsícem +44

    They both act like they’re SO INNOCENT!!
    Please!

  • @LuvMyTators
    @LuvMyTators Před měsícem +72

    Jennifer Crumbley’s attorney appears to be unprepared; what’s wrong with this woman?

    • @arcana_mystery
      @arcana_mystery Před měsícem

      She's the worst attorney I have ever seen. I remember her constantly playing with her hair the whole time. She was a complete idiot!

    • @selfesteem3447
      @selfesteem3447 Před měsícem

      Lol

    • @ang_ro
      @ang_ro Před měsícem +8

      This is how she was the whole trial. 🫠

    • @JoyceJohansen
      @JoyceJohansen Před měsícem +1

      Agree

    • @tinaschultz1976
      @tinaschultz1976 Před měsícem +1

      She always has a temper tantrum I believe the father is remorseful

  • @robinflood7334
    @robinflood7334 Před měsícem +102

    She still has no remorse. She’s reading that like a programmed machine. Still doesn’t take responsibility for her part and tries shifting the blame o the school. Give her the max!!!!!!!

    • @valeriefionda979
      @valeriefionda979 Před měsícem +7

      Totally 💯 agree with you 😮😮😮

    • @DUB-Track
      @DUB-Track Před měsícem +1

      Oh really... So your telling me that you would agree that gang member's parents should be responsible for their children do? Get real, your position crumbles...

    • @andrewjames8980
      @andrewjames8980 Před měsícem

      When people are falsely accused of crimes and then made to look like the worst person on earth for 2.5 years would you expect them to be grateful?

    • @williammoore772
      @williammoore772 Před měsícem

      When you know your kid is an inexperienced driver and wipes out a family, I hope you turn yourself in for the Max.

    • @DUB-Track
      @DUB-Track Před měsícem

      Are you serious? Lets get a real comparison here...

  • @apsaraa8209
    @apsaraa8209 Před měsícem +84

    SHE KNEW he was SICK and she just ignored him for her own selfish self.

    • @nadiezhdadelauzblanco9718
      @nadiezhdadelauzblanco9718 Před měsícem +1

      How do you know?

    • @wolfe6220
      @wolfe6220 Před měsícem +5

      ​@@nadiezhdadelauzblanco9718maybe you should have watched the trial.

    • @user-rc3pk4xy6r
      @user-rc3pk4xy6r Před měsícem +1

      She did not know he was sick. Even the professionals at the school thought he was safe to stay at school and they had information they never relayed to the parents.

    • @julieburton7253
      @julieburton7253 Před měsícem +2

      @@nadiezhdadelauzblanco9718 he asked for help!

    • @LadyNightsong
      @LadyNightsong Před měsícem

      @@nadiezhdadelauzblanco9718 uuuh her own child ASKED FOR HELP!!!!! goddamn people quit making comments if you didn't follow the trial

  • @user-de3wg7ln8y
    @user-de3wg7ln8y Před měsícem +28

    Loves her family so much...she blames the husband and son... now thats a mothers love right there

  • @timothyhandy5379
    @timothyhandy5379 Před měsícem +16

    First off it should have been 10 to 15 per life lost. And 5 to 7 for those injured. These people took ZERO accountability for anything ignoring all the warning signs their kid obviously showed. Then when they had an opprotunity to do something right they ran and hid in a warehouse in Detroit. Handed their kid a gun rather then get involved in their sons life and his problems. Neither of the 3 should see the light of day

  • @kimthreadgold2755
    @kimthreadgold2755 Před měsícem +17

    This lawyer is clueless. Her client is a monster. No raising a school shooter couldn't happen to every parent.
    Less discuss how Jennifer met her lover in the afternoon of day her son shot up the school.

  • @stutzbearcat5624
    @stutzbearcat5624 Před měsícem +67

    Lawyer speaks - lawyer makes IT WORSE.

    • @arcana_mystery
      @arcana_mystery Před měsícem +2

      Exactly what is wrong with that lady she makes everything worse all the time she's one of the reasons that her client got convicted!

    • @katherinegilbert-espada3715
      @katherinegilbert-espada3715 Před měsícem +1

      This lawyer makes my skin crawl.

    • @ericafaith615
      @ericafaith615 Před měsícem +1

      Judge was so DONE with her and it showed

  • @sherreywurz731
    @sherreywurz731 Před měsícem +35

    Still not taking accountability for anything ....sad very sad.theses parents were not around for there son...to busy with themselves and there own lives.parenting is sooooooo hard. But your son suffered immensely and due to his actions looked how many people are suffering. And you can deny till your blue in the face that you didn't know what was going on with your son .....

  • @mzmartin8115
    @mzmartin8115 Před měsícem +28

    Lawyer for Mrs Crumbly is trying to retry the case at sentencing...dit down counselor your making it worse for your client damn. 😅

  • @rondarivadeneira172
    @rondarivadeneira172 Před měsícem +29

    Judge already knows what she is going to do!! Shut up. Blame someone else?????

  • @rondarivadeneira172
    @rondarivadeneira172 Před měsícem +60

    Shut up Shannon...you are NOT helping!!

    • @emilykay115
      @emilykay115 Před měsícem +13

      She never does. She's a terrible lawyer.

    • @arcana_mystery
      @arcana_mystery Před měsícem +1

      ​@@emilykay115worst I've ever seen its like she thinks she's on some kind of a soap opera or something.

    • @user-cb6re8yd8e
      @user-cb6re8yd8e Před měsícem

      She’s probably a divorce attorney not a criminal one 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @ankie6420
    @ankie6420 Před měsícem +73

    Still Blaming others.

    • @Teresa-Anne
      @Teresa-Anne Před měsícem

      Ummmm. Respectfully, THE SCHOOL FK’D UP!!!! BIG TIME!! The one guy (school employee), carried Ethan’s HEAVY (His words), backpack with the damn GUN IN IT, to the office and eventually gave it back to Ethan! THEY SAID ETHAN COULD STAY AT SCHOOL!!!!!!!!!!!! 🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @kc-lp6wg
    @kc-lp6wg Před měsícem +16

    When Jennifer had to back up around 8:10 because she forgot to read the "most important part" and it's that she should be forgiven. I'm glad that she's going to have at least a decade to re think her decisions.
    It galls me to think that this is where she's at in terms of taking responsibility after 3 years behind bars.

  • @RocknRolla2023
    @RocknRolla2023 Před měsícem +27

    Still blaming everyone but themselves. Sit in there and think about it, y’all have plenty of time.

  • @Zzx75
    @Zzx75 Před měsícem +13

    This is probably the last time the Crumbleys will see each other for a long time.

  • @sherrienale9974
    @sherrienale9974 Před měsícem +112

    The lawyer for Jennifer is either untrained or not very good..Her remarks were not appropriate at all,nor correct...I hope someone that is actually falsely accused does not choose her to defend them...very unprofessional...

    • @robinflood7334
      @robinflood7334 Před měsícem +21

      That lawyer is aweful

    • @nina2hansen
      @nina2hansen Před měsícem +1

      @@robinflood7334 I promise you, I'm not making excuses however she is an overworked & underpaid public defender who was trapped into taking this horrible case.

    • @jmlewis435
      @jmlewis435 Před měsícem +32

      ​@@nina2hansenShe is a private attorney, NOT a public defender!

    • @hithere8140
      @hithere8140 Před měsícem +9

      Just like to point out jennifer has a very strong, dont tell me what to do, ill do what i want personality. Perhaps the lawyers advice was just not taken.

    • @cristineconnell7803
      @cristineconnell7803 Před měsícem +14

      ​@@nina2hansenThey hired her before they were even charged! They had no intentions of paying for an attorney for their minor son!

  • @codyor4483
    @codyor4483 Před měsícem +101

    I"m trying to understand how one gets past the fact that not being an attentive parent, substituting a gun, with violent undertones, instead of jumping into your childs life with both feet, is a travesty. You let down the Parents of the Children Murdered, The parents of the other school children, and most of all Your Son, who was damaged beyond recognition because you were too busy, with other things. How many more parents like you, at your age, are out there, with kids who will set their sights on Murdering other children simply because they are happy, and your kid is not.

    • @user-et5ih2uh6f
      @user-et5ih2uh6f Před měsícem

      With these parents being convicted, it opens a door for all parents to be convicted if their child does something wrong.
      If you give your child a car and know that they have consumed alcohol in the past. You can now be convicted if they kill someone in white driving drunk.
      If your child has anger issues and kills someone because you didn't have them under a doctor's care or put in a nut house, you can be convicted.
      This ruling has opened a door that can't be closed.
      American parents are screwed forever
      This is what the liberal American society wanted.

    • @hulkimania
      @hulkimania Před měsícem +10

      Ah the perfect parents... We've been looking for you.

    • @langlang9326
      @langlang9326 Před měsícem +2

      it's not any certain age, it parents of all ages.

    • @LadyNightsong
      @LadyNightsong Před měsícem +6

      @@hulkimania not about being a perfect parent. shit, my parents were abusive alcoholics but I was still never allowed access to my father's guns unsupervised. Gun Safety 101...these parents deserve to be held responsible.

  • @Monty-Remick
    @Monty-Remick Před měsícem +24

    The fact that they are arguing that they were "hamstrung" and that evidence wasn't allowed in just shows that they truly do not believe what they are saying. They have no remorse for the families and victims, they only care about themselves. Trying to blame everyone else instead of taking responsibility is disgusting! They should put themselves in the victim's shoes and really try hard and think of what justice would look like for them... They are absolutely culpable in this horrible and tragic situation, they bought the gun and let Ethan have full access to that gun, PERIOD. Their lives will go on with their son alive and at some point down the road will be able to communicate with him, they unfortunately will never get that opportunity. When reading a statement to address the victims and the court nobody wants to hear the "but!" I'm sorry, I feel terrible, but... To ask for time served and probation "as long as you deem necessary" takes balls and is absolutely INSANE!!! SMFH 🤦‍♂️💯

    • @Charmander009
      @Charmander009 Před měsícem

      Law at the time says not required to lock up gun

    • @wolfe6220
      @wolfe6220 Před měsícem +4

      ​@@Charmander009 There's the letter of the law and there's the spirit of the law. Common sense says you don't buy a gun/leave it unsecured for your lonely 15 year old son who told you he saw/heard demons. He self medicated by drinking, they found multiple empty bottles in his room for Pete's sake. They didn't tell the school they bought him a gun. As a parent, you are supposed to know your child. Honestly, I think they bought him the gun so that he would unalive himself so that they could go on living their selfish lives. But he ended up shooting up the school, they panicked and knew THEY were in trouble.

    • @user-re3gh9cw5r
      @user-re3gh9cw5r Před měsícem +1

      This lawyer sucks ( Jennifer’s lawyer) I’m embarrassed for her . Hard to watch . Yes, this could have been any parent in her shoes BUT if it were me ( and I have an emotionally disturbed son) all I would say is “ I’m sorry and I accept my punishment “

  • @LeeOliver-jq4cr
    @LeeOliver-jq4cr Před měsícem +25

    She still doesn't get it. He came across Much more sympathetic

    • @emcooper3031
      @emcooper3031 Před měsícem +2

      I didn't feel that way after listening to him. He doubled down on saying there were no warning signs, Ethan had no access to the gun, victims' parents don't know the truth.

    • @Carrjacked
      @Carrjacked Před měsícem

      I agree. James absolutely is so wrecked emotionally from all of this. Jennifer not so much.

  • @lisadunn1138
    @lisadunn1138 Před měsícem +16

    Me, me, me!! Wow! How to pretend this isn't your fault! And take absolutely no accountability. Shows exactly why their son did it.

  • @sallyshafer436
    @sallyshafer436 Před měsícem +15

    And still, she does not get it. She was a normal parent and it could have happened to any of us? No, girl. I would never have left a child begging not to be alone alone to go play with horses. Most good parents wouldn’t. Full sentence deserved, even though she’s still clueless.

  • @user-ej7tz3cn1m
    @user-ej7tz3cn1m Před měsícem +12

    No matter what they knew or didn't know, the gun was not secured. It is time that all gun owners understand that they can be held responsible if their unsecured gun is taken and misused. It is a new day.

  • @Agathanagatha
    @Agathanagatha Před měsícem +16

    She’s blatantly been told to say she would definitely do things differently.when she was asked during her trial if she would do anything different and she said no,that was what disgusted everyone.her poor son was crying out for help and they totally neglected him even down to taking him to a dentist,he had a mouthful of cavities.we will never know if they had got him the help he was crying out for would those innocent kids still be here
    She’s still not taking responsibility she deserves to be in prison and so does that simpering sorry excuse of a father

    • @Agathanagatha
      @Agathanagatha Před měsícem

      @christyklosshe apparently had 13 cavities

    • @Agathanagatha
      @Agathanagatha Před měsícem

      @christykloss yep and she really doesn’t care,she’s disgusting

  • @ninasage7735
    @ninasage7735 Před měsícem +13

    I’m so glad the judge is correcting Shannon

  • @catherinerheaume8522
    @catherinerheaume8522 Před měsícem +28

    Denial. Intent is not required for GROSS negligence. No foresight required to follow instructions and lock gun with lock provided. 10 seconds. They knew immediately he was the shooter. Zero acknowledgement of any role or responsibility. Hope she serves 15. Blame everyone else. The victims are also not the persons they were. Narcissism meets its end.

    • @Charmander009
      @Charmander009 Před měsícem

      You’re not required to lock up your gun according to the law at that time

    • @birdly3850
      @birdly3850 Před měsícem +3

      I’ve thought that so many times. They immediately knew he was the shooter. They knew.

    • @wolfe6220
      @wolfe6220 Před měsícem +1

      ​@@Charmander009 A lot of things are not required but that's where common sense comes into play. Unfortunately, there's not much of that around lately.

    • @jackiejohnson7158
      @jackiejohnson7158 Před měsícem +1

      If they just would have told the school their kid had access to a gun this could have turned out completely differently.

    • @carolynupchurch9428
      @carolynupchurch9428 Před měsícem

      I wonder if the kids parents in the River Raft stabbings trial will be held accountable for their actions. That poor man was bullied.

  • @sunshinegal4294
    @sunshinegal4294 Před měsícem +9

    These parents are in COMPLETE DENIAL! Jennifer saying her son seemed so normal. NOT! He needed help! She wasn’t there for him. They were both totally irresponsible and for Jennifer to say she’s an average, good parent, she must live on a different planet!!!!

  • @smwoutdoorfishingadventures
    @smwoutdoorfishingadventures Před měsícem +33

    I started to watch both parents impact statements. It wasn't about the lost innocent souls and the remaining victims. These lawyers still never offered one bit of empathy to the family's. She pats Crumbley on the back of the head. I watched the victims impact statement in the Nasser case. Shannon Smith should be bared from trying law

    • @andreabrown8569
      @andreabrown8569 Před měsícem +1

      Defense attorneys cannot give condolences. It is a rule in some states. I am not allowed to acknowledged the victims until after sentencing.

    • @smwoutdoorfishingadventures
      @smwoutdoorfishingadventures Před měsícem +1

      @@andreabrown8569 Attorney or not this is a different case where children lives were taken. Look at the Nasser trial. That is what the judge said the lack or remorse from all parties

    • @localnemesis94
      @localnemesis94 Před měsícem

      Was Shannon smith involved in the nasser case as well?

    • @smwoutdoorfishingadventures
      @smwoutdoorfishingadventures Před měsícem

      Yes is was a down right shame how she treated those young ladies. never showed one bit on empathy or compassion against them. She want clients that have been charged with sexual abuse. She must think its ok for these monsters to sexually abuse someone

    • @katherinegilbert-espada3715
      @katherinegilbert-espada3715 Před měsícem

      Shannon Smith is a disgusting human being. She is the worst lawyer ever.

  • @UwU-eb3hq
    @UwU-eb3hq Před měsícem +18

    i still think this could have been planned - like to have such an incompetent lawyer so she can appeal on grounds of ineffective council

  • @Legacybyt
    @Legacybyt Před měsícem +14

    I’m sorry I thought this was sentencing not retrying the case

  • @Zzx75
    @Zzx75 Před měsícem +13

    James, what about you threatening the prosecution? It’s hard to believe whatever you say.

  • @virginiamccall6927
    @virginiamccall6927 Před měsícem +11

    I would have liked to have seen more concern for the damage inflicted on her son at the age of 15 years s old when he was asking her for mental help and being ignored. Both of these parents appear to care more about themselves than their son so sad.

  • @paulahenderson9878
    @paulahenderson9878 Před měsícem +10

    Jennifer's statement is worth less than 0%

  • @rondarivadeneira172
    @rondarivadeneira172 Před měsícem +24

    Better apologize you're going to prison for along time.

  • @cristineconnell7803
    @cristineconnell7803 Před měsícem +14

    Seems Jennifer's attorney is trying to retry the case!

  • @Timkast
    @Timkast Před měsícem +22

    The Crumbley’s are the worst of us. Put them UNDER the jail.

    • @Teresa-Anne
      @Teresa-Anne Před měsícem

      Yea, not gonna happen. They’ll walk in just over 7 years. Are you saying unalive them? Wow! 🤦🏻‍♀️

  • @casreich8577
    @casreich8577 Před měsícem +8

    Wow. Not a single shred of accountability

  • @kevinbarry3548
    @kevinbarry3548 Před měsícem +11

    He's a coward and refusing responsibility to the bitter end--inflicting trauma on all the families again. He's in for a wake up call once he's released from prison. He won't be able to live in peace under the radar. We will not forget.

  • @BillyBoy198
    @BillyBoy198 Před měsícem +22

    Two text book examples of why we should implement laws that force people to take courses and pass a parenting exam before having children. This is what happens when unfit people have kids... That young man never stood a chance. Sad.

  • @sallyshafer436
    @sallyshafer436 Před měsícem +7

    Whiny defense attorneys who failed at their job don’t do their clients any favors.

  • @debbielighthall9671
    @debbielighthall9671 Před měsícem +7

    Damn
    This lawyer is despicable

  • @myrnawashington9057
    @myrnawashington9057 Před měsícem +6

    This wonderful woman chose to buy and board horses instead of buying insurance for Ethan so he could have mental health help. She is really playing the victim.

  • @pearlrawson8636
    @pearlrawson8636 Před měsícem +11

    The police got it right! The District Attorney got it right! The Jury got it right! The Judge got it right!
    Tate Myre, 16; Hana St. Juliana, 14; Madisyn Baldwin, 17; and Justin Shilling, 17. young lives mattered….plus the other seven people injured matters! Then add the their surviving family members, community and student body of Oxford…. you made countless victims!
    All because you ignored your son, period!
    First responders ran toward these precious people while you drained bank accounts and ran from your son and the law!!
    I will continue to pray for these families and hope to God they can find some level of peace and healing.

  • @user-de3wg7ln8y
    @user-de3wg7ln8y Před měsícem +19

    I heard jennifer didnt wanna do her time in prison....she wanted to do her time at her lawyers home hahahah

    • @QueenOfTheNorth65
      @QueenOfTheNorth65 Před měsícem +7

      Yes; she requested to be under house arrest at the home of the lawyer in the white suit.

    • @ITJustMeKG
      @ITJustMeKG Před měsícem +5

      lol

    • @carolgill6713
      @carolgill6713 Před měsícem +2

      Have you ever heard anything that crazy, if Shannon Smith was my atty I'd be embarrassed.

  • @rondarivadeneira172
    @rondarivadeneira172 Před měsícem +20

    Blame game!!!

  • @jborden18
    @jborden18 Před měsícem +10

    The mom's eyes had this emptiness about them and the erie flatness of her voice, i cant put my finger on it, but there's something way off about this chick

  • @beverlytorrado266
    @beverlytorrado266 Před měsícem +10

    The lawer keeps trying to retry the whole case.

  • @Zzx75
    @Zzx75 Před měsícem +8

    I want to hear her admit her fault in the tragedy. She is still saying she had no clue about her son.

  • @user-mo6tz6oh9i
    @user-mo6tz6oh9i Před měsícem +11

    The parents and the school bear a lot of responsibility for this travesty. I don’t really believe this man. The woman’s statement just blames the school. I can’t believe her lawyer let her say some of the crap she said about hating the prosecutor.SMH! They should have gotten more time!!!

    • @ksc743
      @ksc743 Před měsícem +2

      The husband threatened the prosecutor not her. But I do believe neither of them cared much for their child. She even told the owner of the riding school where she kept her horses that her son is "weird".

  • @ninasage7735
    @ninasage7735 Před měsícem +9

    She is being ridiculous. It didn’t just happen overnight. You could tell by looking at her house.

  • @sarahhorne2828
    @sarahhorne2828 Před měsícem +10

    She still is trying to blame other people 🙈🙈🙈🙈I just can’t with her!!! And, her attorney, nails on a chalk board😳😳😳😳. Her whining voice is over the top😏😏😏

  • @Ricaaa13
    @Ricaaa13 Před měsícem +7

    Her lawyer ‘s hand motions are almost as distracting as her arguments!

  • @Trobtwillis
    @Trobtwillis Před měsícem +10

    The parents want to blame the school. The school officials want to blame the parents. As an outside observer, I blame both parents & school.
    School is hiding behind some bogus state immunity. I hope that the lawyers for the grieving families find a way around that. Of course, I am not blaming every employee of the school or district. I am blaming the people who were in that meeting regarding the violent graffiti on the math paper.
    Between all those people in that room, I think that it is criminally negligent that neither Ethan's bookbag nor locker were searched before sending him back to class.

    • @flaggov6949
      @flaggov6949 Před měsícem +1

      This.

    • @CreaticityIsLife
      @CreaticityIsLife Před měsícem +2

      I think the difference is that the school took action - you can argue that they didn't do enough, or didn't do the right things, but they clearly cared about Ethan and tried to help. They called in the parents and wanted them to take him for therapy that day. The Crumbleys not only did nothing, they undermined the school's ability to put any plan into effect. They were openly and deliberately obstructive.

    • @flaggov6949
      @flaggov6949 Před měsícem +1

      @@CreaticityIsLife Telling the parents their child is suicidal without doing anything to rule out homicidal tendencies is gross negligence, especially when it comes from someone with the title counselor. It can lead the parents to believe they shouldn't do anything to cause him further distress ie. take him home against his will, and could easily make them think he isn't a risk to others (remember the school allowed him to stay--clearly they believed he was not a threat to others and the parents understood that as the message). The school had the responsibility to keep every child safe and failed to do so. They are just as guilty as the parents who didn't secure the gun.

  • @starsrgood
    @starsrgood Před měsícem +7

    The fact that Jennifer could not stand to read her statement tells me that her message is not from deep within her soul. She might as well have been reading a novel. James statement was stronger and more heartfelt. James definitely has a conscience, Jennifer does not.

    • @arcana_mystery
      @arcana_mystery Před měsícem +2

      I agree and I also found that affair she was having to be completely disgusting. She comes across as creepy and self-serving. Her husband seems like a wimp trying to please her with guns and horses.

    • @CreaticityIsLife
      @CreaticityIsLife Před měsícem

      I agree James at least attempted to show some empathy, but he ended up sounding angry and accusatory. The information he is claiming was withheld was them trying to force Ethan to testify in THEIR defense, along with Ethan's psychologists. He is STILL throwing Ethan under the bus.

  • @UwU-eb3hq
    @UwU-eb3hq Před měsícem +8

    why the fk do you casre how the public perceive your client? a narc lawyer for a narc client...fkn joke

  • @Mst-bh9ti
    @Mst-bh9ti Před měsícem +13

    I honestly wonder about the intellectual level of the patents. I don't mean psychotic. But it's pretty clear they have no clue vis-a-vis how to parent. Freedom and rights being what they are, there's no way to prohibit couples that are deemed to be horrible parenting material from having kids, and that's probably as it should be. Just devastating though to see the wreckage, that standard parenting interaction would have precluded😮

    • @carlathomas6257
      @carlathomas6257 Před měsícem

      I'd say they were below average intellect. She has a flat affect when she speaks,which indicative if some mental issues,whether it's emotional or intellectual, you'd have to test for with a forensic psychologist. We live in a world of self-absorption. It's not limited to kids who haven't outgrown childish me-first behavior. Some can be so clueless as to what is going on right in front of them. Is it by choice? Is it a learned response to survive their own traumas? Regardless, our lives intertwine with others. If we'd only all learn to be kind to each other, and t a ach that by example, we might have less tragedies and less court cases like this.

  • @ambarely-here
    @ambarely-here Před měsícem +2

    i have been waiting rather impatiently for someone to call out jennifer’s defense attorney. i am living for it

  • @et1016
    @et1016 Před měsícem +6

    His heart pours out to everyone of them now that he knows he’s about to go to prison for the next 10 to 15 years. Did he find Jesus too? 😂

  • @rondarivadeneira172
    @rondarivadeneira172 Před měsícem +8

    The son is getting the help he needs now! Someone is talking to him...
    Thats what he wanted ..was someone to hear he wanted help!
    Shannon is retrying the case

  • @ozsomenurse
    @ozsomenurse Před měsícem +4

    Apparently she has not taken any responsibility at all.

  • @catherinerheaume8522
    @catherinerheaume8522 Před měsícem +9

    Well she had time to rest up and the defense is still flailing.

  • @pallavmishra
    @pallavmishra Před měsícem +9

    The Crumbleys sound totally apathetic.

  • @paulahenderson9878
    @paulahenderson9878 Před měsícem +4

    Jennifer: Blaming Ethan and everybody else; and not taking any accountability. She deserves prison.

  • @rondarivadeneira172
    @rondarivadeneira172 Před měsícem +20

    They cant speak to their kids ...ever!!

  • @grantkearney6354
    @grantkearney6354 Před měsícem +7

    No, this couldn't just happen to anyone. There's no guns in my house.

    • @enidpierce9394
      @enidpierce9394 Před měsícem +1

      No guns in our house either or in our vehicles.

    • @dodiebondwood
      @dodiebondwood Před měsícem +1

      That's exactly what I was thinking.

    • @jeanneriggan8774
      @jeanneriggan8774 Před měsícem

      Do you guys understand people can get guns anywhere!

    • @grantkearney6354
      @grantkearney6354 Před měsícem

      @@jeanneriggan8774 Not in New Zealand. It's super hard.

  • @vjdalady
    @vjdalady Před měsícem +4

    Jennifers “wanna be lawyer” gave a terrible statement.

  • @tracirogers9719
    @tracirogers9719 Před měsícem +3

    You know what we really need here? Is for our government to be held accountable, jailed for what they have done to our society and the HELL our children have endured because of their greed and corruption!!

  • @katherinegilbert-espada3715
    @katherinegilbert-espada3715 Před měsícem +3

    She is the worst attorney I have ever seen. She hasn’t learned a thing since her last performance.

  • @nb3longbridge
    @nb3longbridge Před měsícem +2

    Is she blaming the school? I am shocked. As a teacher, I am furious. Behaviour and emotions are parents responsibility! We help. But it is parents’ job!

  • @ITJustMeKG
    @ITJustMeKG Před měsícem +3

    omg her lawyer is BRUTAL

  • @enidpierce9394
    @enidpierce9394 Před měsícem +6

    The words from Jennifer disgust me. Her rolling her eyes when Hanna was speaking. Pretty pathetic. Glad they both get 10 - 15 yrs. Those broken hearts of the families that will never again hug their kids. My heart hurts for them. I pray for healing for the families.

  • @kimthreadgold2755
    @kimthreadgold2755 Před měsícem +6

    Lets hear from really bad parents.

  • @zzz7815
    @zzz7815 Před měsícem +4

    What ghastly people those parents are! They should have been given nonparole sentences

  • @jeanlarocque6586
    @jeanlarocque6586 Před měsícem +2

    He had insomnia! He asked you for help! He texted you advising you he was seeing demons! You remained at the stables! It’s perplexing that you chose to ignore his cries for help. Ethan was totally on his own!

  • @pamelamagee4718
    @pamelamagee4718 Před měsícem +7

    Dumb lawyer, she rumbles on and on so unprofessional...Jennifer Crumbly parents wasted money on this lawyer!!! Jennifer could have represented herself much better!!!

    • @CreaticityIsLife
      @CreaticityIsLife Před měsícem +1

      I doubt it. Jennifer is so out of touch. It speaks volumes that she chose this lawyer and expressed confidence in her.

    • @katherinegilbert-espada3715
      @katherinegilbert-espada3715 Před měsícem

      I agree. That lawyer did more harm than good.

  • @margielepore2319
    @margielepore2319 Před měsícem +4

    These lawyers not only typed the words but actually wrote them to make James and Jennifer look good. Nothing will do that.