Separating & Repotting Nepenthes Ventrata Basal Shoot Cuttings - Propagate Pitcher Plants W/Cuttings
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- Separating & Repotting Nepenthes Ventrata Basal Shoot Cuttings - Propagate Pitcher Plants W/Cuttings
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I finally got around to getting this video done! In this video I propagate my nepenthes ventrata by taking some basal shoot cuttings. This is well overdue as the basal shoots are overgrowing the bottom of my nepenthes. They are all very healthy and should root fine.
I was able to get 5 basal shoots off my main nepenthes ventrata and now have a lot more carnivorous plant children to care for! I will be bringing updates on these plants as they grow and mature. I might have to sell or give some away as I'm getting too many plants and not enough room. Do I expand or get rid of plants? Probably expand. Lol.
My Nepenthes Vantrata have been growing really well but the main plants aren't producing many pitchers. I think these basal shoots have been leeching the nutrients the main plants need to produce big healthy pitchers. Hopefully, removing these basal shoots and repotting them will give my main ventratas more nutrition.
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Thank, i new to Monkey Pot and Pitcher(American Pitcher), i used similar medium technic, half peat moss with perlite and top with sphagnum moss. some lowland species i used just all peat moss.
I bought these same exact ones in Home Depot last week. I’m learning so much about them. Yours are gorgeous my friend. Thank you for the info 🤙🏼
Of course! They are amazing plants! I actually just did an updated on the main plants and cuttings! You should check it out! czcams.com/video/YppwEbB2cQY/video.html
Thanks for making this video! Just planted my 1st Nepenthe cuttings after watching this. Very excited!
Nice! Just keep that moss wet and make sure the shoot is in full contact. Try to keep humidity up as high as you can! Good luck!
@@CarnivorousPlantsHub Thanks for the tips!
I’ve been loving the info and love all this extra tips and tricks. And like seeing the growth difference in the different soils also
Thank you!!!
Looking great, I had forgotten how well your Nepenthes took off. Mine is still a small plant but it is looking great now. . . finally growing small little pitchers like crazy.
Nepenthes are crazy. They can be so up and down. Sometimes they grow really well, sometimes they just struggle. Lol. I find them the hardest to give advice on.
I’m looking forward for a update in a couple weeks 😁
Hope to purchase plants from your shop in the near future, best of luck getting it up and going!!! Also, great info, I need to replicate this procedure soon!! Thanks for everything
Of course Mike, thank you for watching. It means a lot. I can't wait to sell you some carnivorous plants!!
Thank you so much for this video! Fantastic job and i love how you describe everything! I can now crack on and do the same with my Nepenthes😍🌿💜🌿 Thanks again.... i have subscribed, bless you🙏🏽🌿💜🌿
Jade, thank you so much for your kind words, they mean the world to me. Keep on a lookout, I'm going to be doing an update on these in the next coming weeks. My cuttings are doing great!
Just found your channel. Subscribed. Good luck going forward.
Thank you my friend, I really appreciate the support!
Its finally here! Great vid.
Ha! You kept me motivated to get this video done! Thought of you while making it. Hope it was what you were expecting!
Thanks so much for this video, you explain very well, thanks!!
Thank you, glad I Could help!
Great video 😀
Thank you!
I just cut my ventricosa today, except I cut the main plant and left the basal to grow on. Also for fun, I took a couple wetsticks just to see if they'll do anything. One had 2 more buds starting to poke out, the other is just stem. Like your content man, you got another subscriber :)
I'm about to do that on another plant. Sometimes it's more fun to let the basals take off as a new plant and cut off the older growth. It's a great way to keep the plant healthy!
Very nice!
Thanks!
I think you can use orchid bard as well in the soil mixture. I had a nepenthes years ago and made some cuttings.
I have heard that, I'll keep that in mind next time.
Yes, this is true. It helps aerate and keeps the roots from choking themselves. However, it needs to be repotted after a while because it breaks down
Your Chanel is growing fast
Thank you! The carnivorous plant community is full of amazing people! I appreciate everyone supporting my channel. It means so much to me!
Don't forget there is the International Carnivorous Plant Society.
Thank you, very helpful. You didn't talk about what to do with the tall, falling over main stems? At some point, they will need support or pruning or something? Or is that in another video of yours? I'm quite new to the pitcher plant but really like it! Mine (from Home Depot) has 2 tall stalks now heading skyward.
They hang from the side of trees in the wild..
Do you have any tip on when shoots can be sepperated from the moderplant? . Like established roots for example!?
The basal shoots do not establish roots. They shoot off the main plant. When you cut the shoot off, you have to keep it pretty wet so it can establish a root system. I like to wait until they are about the size of my fist before I consider cutting them off, this gives them a better chance for survival. Then you can keep them in water or wrap them up in sphgnum moss and wait for them to grow roots. You will not always get roots for all of them, some wont make it. I have a couple right now that are not in the best shape, but a few that look like they are taking off!
Any updates on how these little separated plants are doing now?
I ended up giving most of them away due to space issues. But two of them are pretty much full sized now. They have been growing well, but not a lot of pitchers, which is my fault, I put them in a place that wasn't great because I'm out of room. I moved them about a month ago to outside and they are just starting to pitcher again!
Those Nepenthes look so healthy! Do you keep them outside? Mine isn't producing pitchers very quickly and I'm thinking that the humidity may be a bit low (although it does go up to about 60% on some days).
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Thank you!
Hi from Malaysia. Very informative video. I learn so many things from your videos. I didn’t know we can separate the basal shoot by cutting and just replant it. My nepenthes has overgrown and has a lot of basal shoot which is pitchering. Now i know why the parents are not pitchering. The sons and daughters are sucking all the energy away. My next project will be separating them, just like what you did. But i scared i will kill them😅. By the way, after planting , how long before they get stabilized and can put outdoor again?
Cutting the basal shoots does not pose much of a risk to the main plant, but there is definitely a risk of killing the cuttings. The success rate of the cuttings taking off isn't perfect and just depends on how things go. Right now, all mine are still alive, but it's hard to say if they are all going to take off. It seems like it's about a 50% survival rate. It can take a couple months before you see any new root growth. Just make sure that a growth node is planted within the long fiber sphagnum moss. This will give your plant the best chance to take off. I wish you luck my friend!
Can you propagate the stems to the flower like you do with a venus fly trap? Cut the flower stem in 1 inch lengths and half bury them?
I'm honestly not sure if the flower stalk can be cut. I know you can propagate almost any stem cutting from nepenthes. And although I've never done it, I have heard you can propagate leaf pullings as well. I've only ever done stem cuttings and know that works. But haven't tried the leaf pullings yet.
I have a question about putting the spag. moss on top of the soil. So when you water them do you water until it runs out the bottom? or do you just make sure the moss is wet?? Also, I am so glad I found you. Now I know why I keep killing my fly traps! ugggg... I was giving waaayyy too much humidity! Thanks a million! Keep it up!
I water them until water comes out the bottom. Nepenthes don't like to be water logged all the time. I wait until they dry out before giving more water. I won't water again until the moss on top has completely dried out.
@@CarnivorousPlantsHub great thank you and ty for such a quick reply!! have a blessed day! xo
You too! Let me know if you have any other questions!
I know this may be a dumb question but I bought a big plant back in march from a festival in town. Mine is so big it’s sideways. I watched you cut these but I’m not understanding how you decide what is the main stem. I have tons of new growth and I’m sure I need to repot but I know the timing is t right. But all help would be greatly appreciated.
Honestly, these are hardy in the right conditions. The right stem is the one you want to keep. If conditions are good, 2 or 3 basal shoots can be supported on a healthy plant.
Hi! I have a plant that is much smaller, and it has produced an even smaller shoot. Do you think it would be ok to separate them? The small shoot has a lot of pitchers.
After you change pot what you do with old moss? Can you use it again? Please tell us.
I don't recommend reusing it as it can have mold, bacteria and even some unwanted critters. If it's still really new, it might be okay. But, if it's been in there for a year or two, no way I'd reuse it.
Will my pitchers likely die from the trauma of cutting and establishing roots? I'm so proud of all my pitchers growing right now but it is evident my plant needs repotting or cutting of basal shoots. I have like 5 basal shoots and my plant is in a very tiny pot 😅
The pitchers on the cuttings will almost certainly die. The pitchers on the main plant will be fine. Your question is odd timing, I'm posting an update on all my basal shoot cuttings early tomorrow! That video might answer some of your questions about cuttings!
Can you cut off the leaves at the base and propagate them by burying them into the moss?
See other comment!
Yeah sphagnum moss is really expensive, had to order the cheapest one here in Portugal for 10 euros for 100g!!!
That's a lot! It does get a little pricier buying sphagnum moss.
@@CarnivorousPlantsHub yeah,thanks
Do you know how long it takes for a pitcher fully develops ?
That's a really difficult question to answer as I dont think there is really a standard. It depends on the size and age of the plant and growing conditions. It will range widely depending on those factors. I would say as akin average maybe 2-4 weeks from the time it starts until it develop and opens.
How long have you been growing carnivorous plants?
Well, I have grown them off and on for the last 15 years or so. I had a nice collection several years back and my living situation changed so I had to get rid of my entire collection. I'm just no2 getting back into it. So, lots of past experience but relearning alot plus lots of new stuff to consider since I grew last.
What season is best to do this please ? I am in New Zealand and heading into spring
These don't go through a dormancy period but do slow down a bit in winter. I chose to cut mine in the spring as they are at the beginning of the growing season. I would say either spring or very late winter.
How do you feel about water propagation?
My understanding is that it works but it takes a little longer. I would try it, but this method I just used is really solid and I saw much quicker results. Maybe I'll do a couple in water next time, just to test it out!
Can you do cuttings off of those still green stems of the main plant?
You sure can, I actually have a video showing you this! The cuttings are still alive and doing well! czcams.com/video/80rppW-qZ1s/video.html
@@CarnivorousPlantsHub I will try this out! Thank you 😊
Good evening...
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I'm pretty sure the dark grey one was at Lowes, but you can get a similar one on Amazon!
My Ventrata doesn't have hair on its traps. Is that normal clone
Yes, no hair means it's a mature pitcher. These plants are really cool. You have what's called an upper pitcher. The plant produces lower pitchers, which have hair. These lower pitchers know that the plant is still small and these pitchers may still be on the ground. These pitchers have hair so that insects can climb the pitcher and fall into the mouth. The more mature "upper" pitchers know that the plant is more established and the pitchers are likely off the ground now, it understands that there isn't a big need for the hairs anymore as the insects will find the pitcher by using the vines. It's one of those crazy evolutions of an incredible plant. Upper pitchers are mature and don't produce the little hairs, lower pitchers are younger and produce hairs to assist insects in climbing them.
Updates please.
All of the cuttings are still alive and producing leaves. 2 of the plants are producing pitchers and one has become really big. I did accidentally burn them a bit this winter under the lights when trying to figure out the best photo period. Now that they are getting some natural sun they seem to be recovering well. I've even seen a few of them sending off new basal shoots. I'll do an update video on these soon!
Did these survive ??
Hey your plant could flower next year if it’s that vigorous
I hope so, that would be awesome!
How are the plants doing so far? See any roots yet?
These definitely rooted, trying to convince them to pitcher for me. One of them just popped up a basal shoot that is already growing pitchers, which is pretty fun! All of them are growing well though.
@@CarnivorousPlantsHub can you do an update video on these?
I don't think those plants are getting enough light. Pitchers should be red from top to bottom w/ just a slight two-tone top/bottom color shade difference. Stem should have nice red color. Nodes should be stacked on top of each other. Every leaf should be throwing chonky pitchers...not just a few sad greenish pitchers at the bottom. These look like they're being punished in the corner of a dark room.
Definitely not in the corner of a dark room. They are under a viparspectra 1000w grow light for 12 hours a night. They are definitely not light starved. Although, I have had some trouble lately with getting them to pitcher. I might need to add a bit more humidity. We have very lower natural humidity here. I've moved them into the grow tent, excited to see how they develop with some extra humidity. Also, they typically only turn red under grow lights, in the natural environments, they don't get super red. My other ventrata is killing it with the darker red pitchers, it's really thriving. Not sure why these are struggling a bit. Either way, the care is on point, just have to figure out what's missing. I did just trim them all up in a recent video as I think the plant was carrying too many growth points. I'm hoping the less grow points will help it pitcher better.
What happens if you accidentally cut the main stem by accident?
Often times even when you cut the main stem, if you continue to give it the right care, a new one will pop out of the area you cut. Give it good humidity and keep it watered with light and it should recover!
How come you don't unpot the plant to separate the other plants?
Mostly because it's just not really necessary. You can get to the basal shoots without uprooting the entire plant. I wouldn't want to disturb the roots, just for some cuttings.
Hi about cuttings, how do i know which one is the vine in my nepenthes, thank you
Hey Christie, I'm not sure I completely understand your question? You can spot basal shoots as they are shoot offs from the main stem. They often will come up through the substrate appearing to be a new plant shooting up. But they are usually coming off the main stem of the nepenthes. I hope that answers your question, if not, please clarify and I'll take another stab!
@@CarnivorousPlantsHub hi thank you for answering, didn.t know that, but i see people do cuttings from a big "vine", of the nepenthes , but i don t know which one is the "vine" in mine cause its not big..thank you
@@christiesilva6918 You can take stem cutting from any of the shoots, even the main stem. The procedure for rooting them is similar, although the leaves are usually cut in half to reduce moisture loss during rooting.
I don't have a lot of experience propagating Nepenthes, but I used a clear storage bin with a tight white lid. I just wetted the 4" deep perlite in the bottom of the bin. I then cut off a stem section just below the 3rd leaf from the end. I stuck the cut end of the stem about 2" into the perlite, put on the lid and put my daylight shop light on the lid. I used an 80 degree F heat pad under the bin to keep the media temperature a bit above room temperature. With the lid closed, there was little evaporation and the humidity was high. I watched to make sure no mold got started. A person could probably spray the cuttings with s sulfur based fungicide to reduce that risk.
I did a dozen or so and the strike rate was around 70%, so either my technique was not perfect or it is normal for some to not take. It took a couple of months to see any signs of roots starting.
If you have a really long shoot, you can take multiple cuttings from it. Just be sure to have two or three leaves on each cutting.
I suppose if a person has a really long basal shoot, they could cut the whole thing off as a basal cutting, then cut off segments of it to use as normal stem cuttings. I have never done a basal cutting, so am just guessing here.
Is that a self watering pot?
It is not, just regular plastic containers.
How old are the nepenthes in the video? And how long does it take for a baby nepenthes' pitcher to grow to the average size for one. It's an deroose alata
It takes a while, you have to be patient. The cuttings took probably 6 months before showing any real growth. For a bit there I thought they were dying, but they pulled out of it. I'd say it probably takes 1 to 2 years for them to get to a normal size plant. And probably 2-3 for them to be a full sized plant. Thing is, they keep growing. So it's hard to say what a normal or full sized plant is. They can grow for years and years.
@@CarnivorousPlantsHub they aren't cuttings. I got a nepenthes yesterday with a very small pitcher that is closed. How long would it takes for it to open?
@@CarnivorousPlantsHub I meant deroose alata
Do we need to fertilize the plant?
You do not need to fertilize the plant. However, you can! There is a fertilizer called Maxsea, I have not used it for a long time but I know people have really good success with it. There should be some videos out there talking about how to dilute and apply maxsea, I also just added it to my master video list. I'll try to get some content out around Maxsea in the future!
@@CarnivorousPlantsHub Thanks!!! 🧡
Can this type of nepenthes survive direct sunlight?
They can. But not as much as a venus flytrap. They are more prone to get sun burnt. They do well with a little direct and mostly indirect.
@@CarnivorousPlantsHub for venus flytraps do they really need a water tray for outdoor set up?
@@CarnivorousPlantsHub When I put my Nepenthes outdoors, I place them under a maple tree where they get direct morning and late afternoon sunlight, but are in dappled shade from about 11 AM until 3 PM.
I have a Nepenthes it is growing well but not 1 pitcher-any reason?
It's hard to say, there can be a lot of things wrong. It could be not enough light, or too much light. It can also be the humidity, although I've noticed that light seems to have a bigger impact than humidity. They do need kind of a sweet spot of direct and indirect light. Too much direct light and they burn, but not enough and they won't pitcher.
@@CarnivorousPlantsHub Thankyou for your reply,The plant looks healthy ,many green leaves with orange Stalks ut no pitchers at all.Will try and increase exposure to sun light .Had it about 2 years.
this has so much potential but after sitting through over 7 min of talking and noir actually doing anything I just can't. sorry. I won't give this a thumbs down but please consider in future just getting right into the doing of it. thanks
I'm very sorry that I made a comment that didn't make sense. I just didn't really watch a lot of the video.
No worries!
when you are taking cuttings from a basal.shoot that has a lot of pitchers, do the pitchers drop off after cutting?
Yes, my experience is that anything that's currently living on that shoot usually will eventually die but it will generate new shoots and take off. It's hard for me to cut a basal shoot that has new healthy pitchers, for that very reason.
@@CarnivorousPlantsHub I have this Nepenthe Rebecca Soper. It was pretty mature when I bought it back in November. I put it outside hanging in my camphor tree in February. I am in Orlando, Fl and that is when everything starts blooming here. This thin has grown like crazy! Huge pitchers! It is planted in full peat moss. I wish I could send you a video or pics of it. I would like to try to take a basal cutting. I also have an x St. Gaya. that is out growing the pot. I would love to try to propegate but don't want to chop them up if they are doing so well. Oh and they Rebecca Soper last week just shot off a bloom!!! I am so excited. I would send you one of each if they root well.
Wow, that sounds incredible! I'm a little jealous of your FL weather. It's harder to get neps growing that good out here, but possible! I'm super happy they are doing so well. You can always hit me up on Instagram if you have one!
@@CarnivorousPlantsHub I do not have Insta 😔
Do you have Instagram
I do, same, Carnivorous Plants Hub, although I admit, I don't post nearly as often as I should!