Hail to the King!! The Arya Organic!
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- čas přidán 5. 06. 2024
- Here is my full review of arguably one of the best headphones I have heard to date. My lovely wife, Bri, makes an appearance in this video also. Check out her reaction to the headphone as well!
Thank you again to Audio46 for sending these out for an extended listen.
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00:00 Introduction
01:16 Technical
02:16 Build and Comfort
04:34 Sound - Bass
06:38 Sound - Midrange
09:32 Sound - Treble
11:07 Bri (my wife) gives her thoughts on the Organic
12:09 Gaming Impression
13:04 In the Box
13:13 Moondrop Cable Pairing
13:31 Sources Used
14:07 Conclusions
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The Arya Organic are the best price-performance headphones ever constructed. Magnificent headphones. For the sake of clarity to all those contemplating purchasing the Organic, the treble is not excessively bright, metalic or sibilant. As a professional reviewer of Electronica/Techno, which incorporates more high frequencies than most genres, the Organic's high frequency reproduction never warranted EQ attenuation.
Wait until you hear the Hifiman HE1000SE. It makes you wonder how it was possible that you couldn't imagine how much more resolution was possible over the Arya Organic and HE1000v2 Stealth (which has more clarity and resolution and holography than the Arya Organic but not nearly as much as the HE1000SE). Bought all 3. Had no choice but to keep the HE1000SE and return the others, even though it was $700 and $600 more than the others. Worth it 100 times over. Not even a contest. This hobby is so amazing. Cheers to all music lovers.
I'm hoping to hear the HE1K very soon. It'll make for a great comparison.
I'm pretty sure the Organic is a better headphone over the HE1..
Doesn't the HE1000SE lack bass which the organic has? You must like music that doesn't have a bass guitar
I've also heard the HE1000SE is even more sibilant than organic. It brings details on the cost of sibilance but ofcourse I haven't heard them to comment on it. If it's true tho, then it still comes down to preference between the two.
Do you enjoy instruments that provide bass to a song like bass guitar? Or do you like the shrill and shawty instruments? I'm no musician but when I listen to Genesis the early one from like 9:82 they had a really good bass player. He went on to form the group. I think it was called Mike and the mechanics and to me that's the highlight of the song and I'm not a bassehead. I've gotten a IEM I returned it. People brag best budget. Incredible clarity when I got it. I knew what they meant by clarity shawty as if there were 5-year-old girls or young boys with loud voices. Shouting it didn't make the music better to me actually. So do you enjoy instruments to give the bass bass guitar? What type of music do you listen to? Have you heard of JM audio ecstasy open back to and the ecstasy clothes back 2.5
In fact, not using wood is not only because of changing weight, but also because the wooden shell is prone to cracking. The earliest version of the hifiman he560 was made of wood, and soon after, a large number of he560s cracked.
At least it's Veneer and not a vinyl wrap. It technically is real wood in that respect
Definitely getting a pair of these, love the Hifiman sound, I will probably wait a few months until they release yet another version and drop this obe below 1k 😂, gotta love Hifiman, headphones always dropping in both releases and price!
Great work. For me, the main point is that music is so much more real and enjoyable on the Arya Organic. They make the Focal Clear sound mechanical and not "right". They sound great on a DAC Dongle like the Questyle M15 and even better on the Holo Audio Bliss. Like you said, the Arya Organics make you remember why we buy gear in the first place. In case anyone thinks I'm just a rabid fan, I have never owner any headphones from them and I find them ugly. Experimenting with cables, the balanced Silver Dragon cable is too bright for me. The Meze copper 99 sounds very natural but lacks detail. Hoping that the Meze silver 99 fixes that.
I listened to it a few days ago and compared it with very well-known headphones of the same or higher price range. This one blew me away 👍 and I will have it for my birthday 😉.
Same for me. This or next year! ;)
The problem is that it’s bright and it isn’t as detailed as the HE1000 Stealth which is nearly the same price.
@Cujobob Yes, it's a hard choice, especially I can't compare both before buy (return them of course within a timeframe). I've seen many reviews and comparisons, and it seems like the Organic is good for EDM, Soundtrack, and Pop, while the HE1000 Stealth is better for Jazz, but not as good for EDM and Pop. The HE1000SE would outperform both, but it also costs €1.000 more.
I own the 58x and tested the Sundara, which I liked but wasn't worth as a side grade. I tried the XS, but it sounded less detailed as the Sundara. A bit dull and not very engaging but a better bass and Sound stage than the Sundara. So the Arya Organic seems to have the combination of good detail and engaging sound with a good bass/subbass.
Great review. Like how you provide song recommendations. Subscribed!
Thank you for adding song recommendations to show off these cans.
Agree entirely with this review. For me the Arya Organic are easily the best headphone that I've heard at or under the $2K price point.
New to the channel here ☺ Loved the review and the song suggestions, excellent all around quality! It's so nice that you go to CanJams with your wife 😁
Thank you! Yes, happy wife happy life ha! She's amazing so I'm very thankful for that!
Great test tracks! Just played Zhao Peng on my 2 channel. Was not expecting that opening vocal. Such depth to his voice!
Looking forward to auditioning the Arya Organic and the Auteurs on November for my next upgrade. What a coincidence, since you mentioned them both in this video. Although, I can only pick one... Btw your Auteur Classics are B-E-A-utiful!!!
Thank you, Zach is a master at crafting beautiful headphones. The two end up being a nice compliment to one another for me.
Love the review. I’ve been eyeing these for a few months as I was on the fence in buying any of the old models of the Arya.
The reviews all around have been quite positive. Please provide us with the headphone amps you used for testing.
For me At the moment I have the schiit bifrost 64 for a DAC coupled with jotunheim 2 running all on balance. I can only conclude that this combination would sound amazing with the Arya organic but is hard to tell. I would need to drop in to audio46 to audition a pair lol.
I'm just going to add that to my general description as far as the amps I use. I do mention them at the end of this video. My ADI2DAC, Cayin iha-6 and liquid platinum for my desktop solutions.
thank you, I will buy Arya Organic, it's a pity, of course, that I will live without a kidney, but I hope it's worth it.
Maybe you could make more informative video reviews if you base it in frequency response curve?
I bought Organic week ago and this headphone is gorgeous but to review “is amazing and I love it” is not enough.
There are three things in frequency response of organic to get Harman curve.
1. Bases from 100 and lower less of 3-4 db.
2. Upper middle has pit of 2 db.
3. Upper treble 3-4 db higher(and I did not cease it because I like over bright in order to listen orchestral music)
Adjust it on high level DAC and you will get the best sound in 1-2k $ range.
My RME ADI 2 and Mojo 2 (except hole in upper middle ) made Organic perfect.
And personally Mojo 2 with organic sounds better. Almost tube amp sound. It’s because of huge soundstage of Organic. But on another hand my Audezes headphones better spark with RME.
Like to your video and thanks for sharing emotion. Next time I believe you will make better informative review.
Peace 😉
Greetings,
First off thank you for the like and sub to my channel. It's important to know this much about me:
I don't do measurements for reasons of my own and so I strive to put the extra thought into my own sound impressions before delivering a video. Also the build and comfort are another important aspect of headphones that need attention.
I also don't subscribe to a curve but more of what a piece of gear sounds like to my ears to describe the best way I know how.
There are plenty of other reviewers out there posting measurements out there as well.
I do appreciate your comment and point of view.
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Played the two tracks you mentioned using my Ayra Organic, oh boy "Zhao Peng" sound superb!
Glad you enjoyed that!
you should also check out Flight by Hannah Parrott
Great review and B-roll quality too! Nice shots.
I'm already biased to buy the organic but can't stop watching videos about it in the meantime. ;)
One suggestion, which I also whished on some other videos from you.
Put the track-title in your description with the short info like (voice of the singer, or strings).
So I don't need to interrupt the video all that time or spend additional time to search in the video for that informations.
Thank you. Appreciate the suggestion as well and ill see about that in the future.
I really like the stand that you show at the 8:15 mark ...Do you have a link to purchase that stand?...Thanks
Great Video! Been eyeing these up for my endgame headphone. Have you ever had any issues with the Hifiman's you've had? I hear their QC isn't great and just makes me a little nervous.
Well tbh I've not owned one long enough to know for sure. Ive heard the issues with the Sundara before. Hopefully this one stands the rest of time. My only concern would be the veneer coating on the cups.
@@Skeeb23 Gotcha. Yeah, I guess time is really needed to find out. Thanks for the reply!
Do you plan to do any sound comparisons with the Ananda Nano? I would be curious to know how much of an upgrade the Organic is and in what ways!
So I don't have the Nano any longer as it was just a loaner. The Arya is a definite upgrade. It sounds more natural. Both are detailed. I think the Arya also has more space and a better Bass definition along with less sizzle in the treble. I found the Nano to also have a slight metallic nature to it at times. Still a great headphone for the price it comes in at.
Another brilliant review! Many thanks for this. Do you think it will be worth the upgrade from the Arya Stealth?
I do. It's not significant though. Both resolve very well but I find the Organic to have a more natural sound, better Bass and more open stage over all. Percentages though. If you are happy with the stealth then don't get fomo.
@@Skeeb23 Many thanks for the reply! Hehe, fomo made me ask that question.. 😅 but your answer kind of settles it.. will stick to the stealth.. 😊
Nice review 👍 any clues how is the Arya Organic with Cayin RU6 or RU7, which one has better synergy with Organic.
For me, RU7 all day long for details and transparency. RU6 if you want an analogue flavor to it.
Loved the review, what headphone cable is that? Looks awesome.
Well...I talked about the cable in the video ha! That's ok, it's the Moondrop Line W. It's a 4.4 balanced cable. If you watch towards the end that's where I talk more about it.
@@Skeeb23 Ah you talked about it in the end! haha
@@Skeeb23 Oh no... it's silver plated... I thought it was upocc silver only. I find the silver plated cables sound harsher and more stringent than pure upocc silver and copper cables.
I got these for DJing, they're pretty good, people like me in the club because I have skillz.
I heard and liked the Organic a lot at CanJam SoCal.
But one thing it was on a very powerful amp, and the bass was quite bloomy - I think it may have just been the amp?
Have you noticed the bass sounding a bit much in your set ups?
Thanks 🙏
Good review!
I've been considering this one for a while. I probably would have gone for it were it not for the Mod House Tungsten being right around the corner. If you were to get your hands on a set it would be very interesting to hear how the Tungsten and Arya Organic compare.
I'll look into that one, thank you.
oh yea I forgot about that one, HEDD 2 also is looking interesting
How would you feel about using these on games? Specifically games like Remnant 2, God of War, RPGs and JRPGs? I dont play competitive, but am curious on this being good for that use case as well (on top of music or OST listening of course)
Currently own a Focal Celestee, Meze 109, Drop+DCA Aeon Closed X, Audeze LCD X open, and an HD8xx. May sell the HD8xx and Aeon as Im looking to consolidate my collection to 3 -4 pairs max lol
Excellent! Towards the end of the sound portion of the video I talk about gaming with the Organic.
@@Skeeb23Yeah I ended up buying the Organics after your vid and played Armored Core and Final Fantasy 7 Remake, they sound fantastic on those games. Definitely selling the 8XX and Aeon X lol
Which HP cable were you using? I got some organics 6 weeks ago but still using the stock cable which isn't great
It's the Moondrop Line W cable.
I had the Organic and it was just great. Had the He1000se as well which was clearer but not as holographic. Sadly I just hate Headstraps. So i turned into an IEM Guy...
Only thing I found with Planars is that Voices sound different. Not neccesary bad but different.
I had Arya V2 but didnt like that fake timbre, this one might be the one I keep longer, who knows maybe I will buy it :). Sadly in my country it is overpriced. Autumn leaves on nightbird compared to songbird was recorded differently, guitar on nightbird is placed right upper side and songbird has it slightly behind on the left (precise imaging of my ADX5000 xD)
The Arya 1st ed was a close 1st contender when I got started but the price of $1700 just didn't feel right. Seeing that they've come down to $1200 feels like its in the right spot of what I would call a fair price. Curious you said all metal chassis; have they upgraded the yokes to all metal over plastic? One other thing main reason that a lot of companies have moved away from the wood wrap around on the cups is that due to regions it often times lead to the wood cracking so using the fake wood look if at all is the preferred.
This may have been over looked cuz the ZMF can's you have are all stabilized which will never crack due to dryness or lack of proper humidity balance of 40%. The down side is stabilized tend to be around 100g heavier but imo a lot more sexy. I was able to compromise w/ my Caldera's w/ the Redheart as they look stabilized but they are not. I live in south Texas so cracking even during the winter is a non-issue.
I'll double check the yikes since you asked. Honestly these days companies have gotten very good with plastic and the hefty makes it easily mistaken for metal on first glance/touch. I thought it was just the cups that were plastic. I'll report back.
@@Skeeb23 The 1st Ed Arya yokes were pure plastic and ppl starting having issues w/ them breaking. HiFiman made corrections later which they implemented a metal interior armature to strengthen the plastic yokes which for the most part fixed the yoke problem. However, I personally would have still preferred metal yokes even at the cost of more weight.
I’d say another headphone I’ll never own, but Hifiman seems to lower prices quite a bit as time goes on.
I wonder how this stacks up to the He1000v2
I compered it already. 1000v2 had less soundstage. Actually compared to Organic V2 has no soundstage at all. Sound is very accurate and sparks especially in upper treble. I heard every instrument in orchestral with it. But it has no scale. My preference to Organic.
And now I don’t know what to to with my two Audeze headphones. Because Organic killed it in one shot.
@@goldenstasgsIs it the OG He1000 V2 or the new He1000 Stealth.
@@hiraksarma3068 HifiMan 1000v2. It costed 3500$ two years ago. Now it has price same like organic. Unprecedented discount. I anticipate new model this year.
HifiMan Arya was great but too far from 1000 series. But Organic with new level of details in treble is closer to 1000v2 and Susvara. My opinion it’s because Organic has same nano driver like V2. But Organic has huge soundstage and created for listening music. On another hand with 1000v2 is analytical headphones. Soundstage is narrow and details, details and details. But if you want details better choice is Abyss 1266. The best headphones in the world regarding of details.
I compose music and I need headphones to hear orchestra like in Philharmonie. I tried a lot of headphones and Organic is the best for me. Soundstage, details, realistic sound, fixed bass response.
About bass. It’s important. Audeze I have experience with lcd2, closed, x and 4. They have bass like everywhere but in same time. Bass response is very powerful but mono if I could say like this. But Organic conduct bass response regarding every instrument in realistic manner. I was shocked. The best bass response I have ever faced.
Hey I use the Organic paired with the go bar. Do you think another Amp/ Dac could increase the sound quality?
I’m eyeing on the gryphon. Do you have any recommendation?
Well... my RU7 performs really well with the Organic. Are you sticking to portable solutions I'm guessing?
@@Skeeb23 I would like too yes. Is the sound signature better on the RU7?
I think the tremble is sometimes a bit harsh on the organic. Was debating on getting the HEK Stealth or the Organic and endet up buying the Organic, bcs of the better bass and subbass.
Read about the Ef400 and 600, and a lot of people are saying is it improves the soundstage and smoothness of the tremble.. but I don’t want to be desktop dependent with a static setup.
@@ilovecoldplayyyy ok good to know. No, the RU7 won't take the treble. Honestly the RU6 may do that being an R2R DAC but I don't want to refer anything if I didn't hear it actually paired with the Organic. I would go with something someone has had experience with the Organic. My 2 🪙
@@Skeeb23 did you tried other Amps/Dacs of dongles? How is the paring with the RU7(Soundstage, Tremble?) Im thinking about buying it and selling the Ifi go bar
@@ilovecoldplayyyy I like it the most with my iHA-6 or the Liquid Platinum. For portable, yes it does great with the RU7. I like it more so then the Go Bar. Better for details on the RU7. I'd be curious to hear it on an R2R to see if it curbs the treble energy any.
What do you think is the best pairing Dac/Amp for the Organic?
Best? I can't comment on that unless I've heard them all, but the ADI2DAC pairs very well. You don't need a ton of power to drive them so even a Shit magni/modi would work. Do you have something in mind?
You should review like oluv's gadgets
I enjoy you style so I subscribed. One thing, it's not real leather. Gotta be careful with a detail like that. Question: have you tried the HE1000 Stealth? A lot of folks in the hobby are looking to compare these two all summer with the sale putting them only $100 apart and no CZcams videos hitting on that. Thanks!
Thanks for the sub and note on the band. Lots of talk on the HE1000...I'll be very curious to hear the difference should I get the chance
@8:15 name of the headphone stand?
That's a Grumpy Goose! This guy sells them on a limited basis (and they sell out in minutes when he does drops)
instagram.com/oneills.creation.workshop?igsh=aDc4amNlNjQ2YW9i
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First! Yeah I know, I'm 47 and I act like a 14yo😅
Got an edition xs, powered by a mojo2. Arya O looking good.
You think the mojo2 is enough to drive it?
Yes definitely. They’re very easy to drive. For the price mojo2 would be my top pick
Yes, what @kajetan9550 said. Easiest to drive Arya yet!
Yeah I use a btr7 with my xs, mojo 2 has like 1w+ right? Probably have a ton of headroom.
@Hijynx87 nah, it's less, can't remember exactly but I think it's 600mW into 32ohms
Write my comments here about mojo 2. I was really surprised how it handle with Organic. Magnificent.
Please review JM AUDIO XTC and compare
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Have you used this phone to watch movies? It would seem to be perfect for this task.
I think the arya stealth is better than the organic IMO.
It's all about preferences.
I don't believe in durability of Chinese headphones, do you?
No idea as of yet. I'm very careful with all of my gear so time will tell.
Lolz...
But … it’s still a Hifiman 😅
😂
and yet its beating overpriced sennheiser..
oh look another china release. This is a hobby, and hobby needs to be interesting. Not sure about others but there is nothing interesting in a product from china because 1 simple reason: they do small changes and new version every year. Gear like HD600, Qtest, WA-6SE... are years and decades unchanged, because they are made with intend. they had a goal, they work to create their vision and there is no need to change it, and variation have their reason to co-exit on the market at the same time. That is cool gear. You buy these now and in 2 years will be 3 version old. The product is meaningless. Sure not only china brands are doing this but they push this to an extreme to the point I lose all interest just when I hear a product is made in china. Look at WOO Audio, Chinese guy, but he really understands what making a product mean, and that is more then a new version of a previous product.
I really don't see how iterations of a headphone are a problem, especially when you start your complaint of one of the top headphone companies in the world with a condescending "oh great, another headphone from China". Not cool.
Also not sure why youd rather a headphone have almost no iteration or improvement for like 25 years like an HD600. Im glad they still sell them because its still solid, but not every brand is going to make the most popular headphone of all time that will still sell decades later with only the smallest of changes. Hifiman is fantastic, but they dont have the brand loyalty of the casual audio audience in the west that Sennheiser does to do something like that.
@@PantsaBear you don't see it? ok assuming you never tested any of the 2 products... you meet 2 people and 1 has D90 dac... whatever 0,1 difference iteration, and another one has a Graham Slee Majestic. What of the 2 gear are you most interested in? When you flood the market with products, there is nothing interested about the products anymore, the small differences can be disregarded, everything is mostly the same. Sure you will find differences so you can say this product is more like this then that product but is really not interesting. Even if we talk about a well know product like Chord Qtest, it is still interesting to hear because sound improves with the source quality, so unless you use it stock or a 50$ iFi psu, most likely you still has something new to test. The only Chinese product that I would say it is interesting is Susvara because they made it with intent, they made it how they like it, and it is nothing to improve that merits a revision for a long time.
Why I would have a long standing product like HD600? because represents an achieved idea for a sound signature, and the fact people still buy them it means it also represent a base to compare other products.
I find the new Arya to be a bit too much sizzle for me. I thoroughly enjoy the sound-stage and imaging which I think is a step up from my Caldera but the sizzle in the treble can be too piercing for me on most tracks. Going back to my Caldera I find I can actually listen to all kinds of music without the fatigue kicking in. Maybe for other folks the treble is perfect but I just can't as much as I like the tuning and the overall presentation that the Arya Organic brings. I think I will stick to the Caldera and sell these off. Great review as always, much appreciated!
Organic is great, but definitely not something you can turn the amp up on and amplify detail in the lows and mids. The Arya Stealth isnt as bright, but it just doesnt have the bass or lower mids that Id like either
I actually compared both the Organics and the Arya Stealths to my Moondrop Venus. I think the Venus makes a lot of sense as a compliment to the Organic, as the Venus you can throw a ton of power at to get a ton of air and detail without hitting a treble/upper mid spike like you do on the Organics. Fantastic headphone
@@PantsaBear Terrific insight and completely agree on the Organic. Way too much sizzle at the volume levels I listen too. My Caldera while not as airy and wide sounding, it has incredible depth and imaging in it's stage and never hits those harsh peaks. I'm curious now about the Venus as it sounds like the type of cans I lean towards.
I’d say another headphone I’ll never own, but Hifiman seems to lower prices quite a bit as time goes on.
Even the stealth before this one is now 999. It's a good direction to see them taking.