I did not know this debate was a thing. This was a good presentation of some of the facts; one thing that came to mind was when he said to Jesus “I should be baptized by you” - well, perhaps he already was, in the womb as you mentioned, and that’s why he could baptize Christ.
I was wondering if you might consider doing a review of the question and answers form of the catechism. I think it is called either the companion or the compendium to the catechism. I am considering getting one because it supposed to be for lay people. People like the Baltimore catechism because of the question answer format and so it is unfortunate that so few know about this other option for the new catechism. I didn't know about it and now am considering getting one. I like the term "protomartyr" when referring to transitional saints between old and new covenants. Although it is a bit paradoxical since there are many who hold that title. Maybe I take it too literally, but I would have thought only one could be considered a protomartyr. The Church knows better than me, and the more the merrier. These are the ones I know about, but there could be more: Holy Infants, St Stephen, St John the Baptist, St Zechariah, etc... It might also be appropriate for the first martyr of each kingdom/nation to be considered a protomartyr, but I'm not sure. Anyway, that came to mind when you mentioned the good saint's head on a platter. I enjoy parallels that often show up in scripture. The imagery you mentioned in the icons is beautiful, and it is as if Jesus is baptizing St John the Baptist in the womb. It seems this would be one of the non-sacramental baptismal forms. Perhaps the baptism of desire. That would bring up another interesting idea, which is that St John the Baptist might have had been given reason even while in the womb. Christ Himself had reason at the moment of conception and some believe that St Joseph had it at a young age. Anyway, back to the parallel. When St John the Baptist mentioned to Jesus that He should be baptizing him, that makes me wonder now if He didn't need to because He already had. Just a thought. Personally, I do believe it just because it makes the most sense to me mystically speaking. The Protestant mindset would fight against it, but sometimes one has to read between the lines in the bible - at least when acceptable doctrine. Anyway, I look forward to your new series. I have also heard that some people think St John the Baptist was assumed into Heaven as St Joseph might have been. This one I have more doubts about just because we have the relic of his head. But St Joseph I definitely believe was assumed. God bless.
@@ConvincedCatholicism lol same here. I only found out about it recently. I thought: I wonder what it would take to get a question and answer format of the catechism commissioned? Then, perhaps an inspiration from my Guardian Angel, a thought came to me to use a search engine and I found it. The idea behind it was that the catechism is more designed for the use of clergy but hard to navigate. So St John Paul II wanted to create a lay friendly shorter version, but one that was synchronistic. I was so happy to find out about it.
I did not know this debate was a thing. This was a good presentation of some of the facts; one thing that came to mind was when he said to Jesus “I should be baptized by you” - well, perhaps he already was, in the womb as you mentioned, and that’s why he could baptize Christ.
Great analysis! I really enjoyed the video.
Glad you enjoyed it
I was wondering if you might consider doing a review of the question and answers form of the catechism. I think it is called either the companion or the compendium to the catechism. I am considering getting one because it supposed to be for lay people. People like the Baltimore catechism because of the question answer format and so it is unfortunate that so few know about this other option for the new catechism. I didn't know about it and now am considering getting one.
I like the term "protomartyr" when referring to transitional saints between old and new covenants. Although it is a bit paradoxical since there are many who hold that title. Maybe I take it too literally, but I would have thought only one could be considered a protomartyr. The Church knows better than me, and the more the merrier. These are the ones I know about, but there could be more: Holy Infants, St Stephen, St John the Baptist, St Zechariah, etc... It might also be appropriate for the first martyr of each kingdom/nation to be considered a protomartyr, but I'm not sure. Anyway, that came to mind when you mentioned the good saint's head on a platter.
I enjoy parallels that often show up in scripture. The imagery you mentioned in the icons is beautiful, and it is as if Jesus is baptizing St John the Baptist in the womb. It seems this would be one of the non-sacramental baptismal forms. Perhaps the baptism of desire. That would bring up another interesting idea, which is that St John the Baptist might have had been given reason even while in the womb. Christ Himself had reason at the moment of conception and some believe that St Joseph had it at a young age. Anyway, back to the parallel. When St John the Baptist mentioned to Jesus that He should be baptizing him, that makes me wonder now if He didn't need to because He already had. Just a thought.
Personally, I do believe it just because it makes the most sense to me mystically speaking. The Protestant mindset would fight against it, but sometimes one has to read between the lines in the bible - at least when acceptable doctrine.
Anyway, I look forward to your new series. I have also heard that some people think St John the Baptist was assumed into Heaven as St Joseph might have been. This one I have more doubts about just because we have the relic of his head. But St Joseph I definitely believe was assumed. God bless.
Sure! I didnt know it existed at all. I will have to look it up!
@@ConvincedCatholicism lol same here. I only found out about it recently. I thought: I wonder what it would take to get a question and answer format of the catechism commissioned? Then, perhaps an inspiration from my Guardian Angel, a thought came to me to use a search engine and I found it. The idea behind it was that the catechism is more designed for the use of clergy but hard to navigate. So St John Paul II wanted to create a lay friendly shorter version, but one that was synchronistic. I was so happy to find out about it.