The New Liverpool Street Elizabeth Line Station
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2022
- It's Day 5 out and about on the new Elizabeth line, as we continue to head east exploring each station in depth down the line. Liverpool Street station is so big that not only does it serve Liverpool Street, but its western end has an entrance/exit at Moorgate too ... and as there are are loads of lifts in this one, the perfect guest for this one was my friend Sarah who wanted to ride them all, including the incline lift!
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Love how the CEO of MTR just casually has a chat with you, watches your videos and even thanks you for your support
@Geoff Marshall - You're correct the Central Concourse is full length at Liverpool Street due to the predicted passenger volumes. TCR had a full length concourse constructed, but not currently fitted out for customer use, but could be in future, if passenger volumes require it. I was the CRL Principal Delivery Engineer for the station, having worked on the station for 12 years, any questions, feel free to ask.
OK so at stations people stand in front of information displays for train announcements (Liz has no people or variations yet). On platforms you do NOT want people standing/obstructing the loading areas. QED why have displays above doors instead of between them?
@@kbtred51 This seems to be a feature that many are liking, you can read the text from a distance, you don't have to get next to the doors to read the text. People naturally congregate at the doors, at least now you don't have to strain to read the train displays halfway down the platform and there's plenty of space to spread out. Most of the time people are sensible enough to allow passengers off first, without obstructing the doors. I don't believe if you had displays just between the doors people would move away from the door locations.
@@kbtred51 I guess it is one last reminder to check you are getting on right train, just as you are entering the door. 😁
Is the TCR full concourse in preperation for Crossrail 2? (And what other CR2 provision has actually been built at TCR?)
@@davekeller4488 It's possible, not sure on that as it wasn't my station, perhaps Geoff could look at what infrastructure has already been built for CRL2, certainly there has been an amount constructed at TCR. At Liverpool Street the first tunnel vent shaft for CRL was built around 2000, when Moor House was constructed at Moorgate.
Sarah has demonstrated how user friendly Moorgate station and Liverpool Street station are, especially when connecting to other underground lines.
tfl should hire her.
@@SamSitar hire her to improve step free access
As the saying goes: What’s not to love about railways! Really positive experience of the new stations (especially the diagonal lift). It was nice that people took time to have a chat and explain things. Thanks Geoff, for inviting me along!
You made this video special. Hope to see you again.
You were very good at explaining for those with your needs. The purple line on the floor is a very good idea...
Enjoyed the vid. Good to see your perspective and to see TfL taking access seriously.
Lovely to meet you and Geoff sorry we interrupted your filming, my daughter has never been so happy. Finally step free access. What's not to love about railways!
@@princesspatsy5234 Hello! It was so nice to meet you. What were the chances?
What's not to love about railways.., especially when Geoff's doing the exploring.
Railways are sometimes expensive
Thanks for including a disabled POV in this series, Geoff. Far too few travel/transit vloggers remember to do that.
What's not to love about railways?!
Especially as they get you looking up things like "what is a funicular anyway?" Answer: it's a cable car on rails. Two balanced cabins being the point. Seaside water lifts ring a bell?
Whereas an inclined lift is... a lift that goes up and down a slope. Why? Because that is what it is inclined to do.
(I'll get me coat.)
Should be top comment!
Not many of those, left around the UK
Been for a ride on the water funicular at Lynton and Lynmouth, fascinating how it works and yet it’s a very simple concept really.
When I was in Osaka, I loved that they had signs on the transfer corridors telling you how many metres it was between stations/platforms. Maybe TfL could do the same thing, though they would probably just say that no matter how long or short the corridor, it was the same as climbing 15 floors.
It's a 12 storey inclined lift ;)
The word Moorgate always keeps coming back to haunt me lol Honestly love the kinds words from the CEO MTR UK to acknowledge your support during the years of this project and also had a fun race with JenOnTheMove, Lorna and Every Last Station on the short Incline lifts near the Liverpool Street exit (which is close to the site of Broad Street's disused station) WHAT'S NOT TO LOVE ABOUT RAILWAYS?!
Steve Murphy used to be my CEO a decade ago. He's incredibly down to earth, treats all staff equally and even remembers faces and names years after moving on.
Love this video with Sarah - seeing accessibility represented in transport is fantastic. This is really important content.
One thing I've noticed in these videos is that there doesn't appear to be tactile paving for vision impaired users?
I believe the barrier gates mean it wasn’t required as the barriers removed the hazard? I notice in the corridor skirting & barriers are a much darker colour to provide enough contrast for most visual impairments, or a cane would guide those who have no vision at all (the government guidance is actually quite limited). I did notice the random placement of darker squares at the end of each corridor to denote you’re entering the platform & how gently the light is dispersed to avoid glare, a key issue for most sight impairments.
What’s not to love about railways with an inclined lift? Also Sarah is excellent 👍🏼👍🏼
What’s not to love about railways? Thank you MTR, TfL, and of course Geoff for his years of coverage of All the Railways!
What's not to love? Dr. Beeching who closed my local station
What's not to love about railways ! Especially when you bump into your favourite you tuber, thanks for taking time to talk to my daughter.
as someone who is disabled I truly appreciate that you show travel with someone disabled
What's not to love about railways? (especially when staff shortages at airports are making me doubt I'll be in the UK this summer)
I would love them even more if they cut the prices to the same as the rest Europe
Told you they’ll recognise you as a hero!
Is the lift to the Northern line platforms in the station’s original lift shaft? The one which was replaced by escalators and which they found someone living in when all rooms were opened up for checks after the Kings Cross fire?
I was based in Hong Kong,where is the MTR bases and now I moved to London,it's kind of so joyful to hear the operation in-between TFL and MTR UK！👍😎Beside,my dad have been working in construction sides and many main projects in HK for many years and now with my brother so I would also keep my eyes on some construction big project like this one as well!💪🥳🤗
Loved the video, Geoff. Sarah is a brilliant guest - you’ll have to do more with her in the future.
Thanks!
As a differently-abled person myself, I always enjoy Sarah's input on your videos.
What's not to love about railways? Great to meet you on day 5 of your purple marathon. Thanks for the photo with me and the boys.
Love that Liverpool Street now has an incline lift, and is connected via train service to Southend which also has an incline lift (not a funicular) on the seafront.
What's not to love about railways‽ (apart from the price of a ticket in the UK)
What's not to love about interrobangs‽ 👍🏻
Oh yes, and railways 😆
I timed central line to northern line via the Elizabeth line platforms yesterday. Takes 10 minutes to walk the whole thing. Is capacious the right word. All the capacious Elizabeth line stations. All of them. Tick ✅
Re: The Central passageway.
It'll be based on the outputs of a pedestrian flow model that takes the expected peak demand at each entry/exit, uplifted slightly, and then modelled on how people flow on or off trains. This then identifies any unacceptable crowding pinchpoints. At a guess, Liverpool St needs the central passageway to avoid this, whereas the other mined stations can manage without.
At a hunch, I would suspect that the particular demand is the number of people expected to enter/exit Liverpool St both for The City and Main Line interchange, to spread people down the train (I doubt the through flow from Moorgate would be that heavy, personally)
The other major main line interchange is Paddington, which is an excavated box so avoids this problem with multiple banks of escalators.
i can see people racing in it :)
The incline lift, TfL’s new shortest line!
In Paris there is a pair of inclined lifts which used to be a proper funicular, and is still called the Montmartre Funicular. I think it's about 100ft but you need a ticket so I suppose it can be considered a proper transit line.
It's funny seeing the excitement for incline lifts in London as they're standard fare on the Stockholm underground! Happy to see them being deployed more widely tho, lol
I remember the inclined lift being a major reason for delays when they opened the Hudson Yards station on the New York Subway in 2015. I've ridden it since and it's fantastic! Hope to do the same in London soon...
Great to see the step free access is transformative , hope TfL can accelerate step free at all their stations
Coloured floor lines from gatelines to platforms (or at least to the point where the only thing you will reach is those platforms) are a great idea.
Where would they lead to… the escalators or the lifts. Could get confusing, or end up sending everyone to the 🛗
@@apuldram Hmm, yeah that's a good point.
Yes where they have it at Paddington to direct you to the Hammersmith & City line it’s really helpful, even if you don’t have a disability
I've just arrived in London (from Northern California) at the start of my second 2-weeks Holiday and used the Elizabeth Line immediately after leaving Heathrow. Thanks to you and this series, I knew what to do and where the line goes. It is absolutely marvelous; nothing so fine in any US metro area, nothing even close. This makes BART in the SF Bay Area look anachronistic, and the near silence of the new trains when scurrying along is extraordinary. All in all, an enormous win for London! Oh, one more thing: I just happened to board carriage 7 of 9, and immediately on being apprised of that fact by the messages board on the carriage ceiling, Jerri Ryan's ST Next Gen character popped into my head stating plainly, 'The fun will now commence'. I posted that graphically on my personal FB page.
What's not to love about railways? Looking forward to seeing the #purpletrain for the first time tomorrow.
A fantastic video Geoff with your guest Sarah. I hope Crossrail is well maintained and cleaned properly as it’s a fantastic rail project. Good infrastructure is vital to a city wellbeing.
What's not to love about railways? Especially discovering long interchange corridors as a tourist (I for one fell in love with my slow, convoluted walk while changing lines)
Lovely to see Sarah again! And I think you'll have to get out your trundle wheel again, Geoff, to measure which corridor on the tube is the longest 😁😉
Great video! Thanks for this fun series!
(edit: misspelled name. sorry!)
Thankyou so much for your videos, turning me into an absolute train and especially station enthusiast! Your content is my go to „feel good content“ whenever I feel down, so again, thank you a lot
What's not to love about railways? My son is in a wheelchair, so today's video was especially awesome.
I was looking forward to seeing Sarah’s collaboration! Those tunnels look like fun to push through, so smooth and level. I love how she went way ahead of you; I do that too. When the terrain is difficult pushing can be pretty slow, so when it’s good I find you always want to go as fast as you can! I love how accessibility-integrated these stations are, they’re even better than the DLR ones tbh. And thank you again Geoff for doing your part for accessibility visibility!
The tubular white-clad corridors look like they’re on a space station!
The indirect lighting adds to the atmosphere too. As an American watching this series from afar on Crossrail opening, it makes me look forward to the day I visit London to experience this. Been on many Swiss, German and French railways over the years, but I've not visited the UK yet. The investment in infrastructure for future generations is amazing to see. The planning alone must have taken years for every detail to be worked out. Apart from the east coast corridor, rail transit in the US is so far behind this. I wish we had more investment like this in the US, so much grade D crumbling bridges and roads in desperate need of investment. Its all about priorities.
What’s not to love about railways? Love this keep doing what you do
What's not to love about railways? When the lift's broken :-(. We (my wife is a wheelchair user) arrived at Liverpool Street yesterday (3 June) and made it halfway along the platform and then were told the lift at the Liverpool Street end wasn't working. Apparently they're waiting for parts. So we had to go all the way back to the Moorgate end, take the lift and then travel back above ground to Liv. St. Worrying a) that it's already broken down, b) there was no signage warning us of the broken lift c) we were only told when we said hello to the staff member on the platform and d) they were having to wait for a part rather than having spares ready to go. We still love Crossrail of course.
Love seeing the amazing Sarah on your videos. She is a ray of sunshine.
Why do I keep thinking about “2001: A Space Odyssey” when you go down those long corridors. What’s not to 💜 about railways 🙂
it's the endless white with black rings. like in the space ship.
What's not to love about railways? Thanks for the deep dive into the Elizabeth Line stations Geoff. Amazing and one day I hope to ride them when I am next in London.
What's not to love about railways -- especially when you're showing us around them! 💜
And you've been busy this week -- take a well-deserved break when you need one!
What's not to love about the railways! Our old office was next to the Moorgate entrance and our new office is near the Liverpool Street. On the first day I came out the "wrong" exit and had to walk back down London Wall. That's when you realize how long the platforms are :)
This is fantastic thanks Geoff and Sarah for doing this video I use Liverpool Street station all the time especially when I go to Romford so it’s great to know where all the lifts are :)
Loved the Geoff & Sarah Show! Great video and .... What's not to love about Railways?!!!
What's not to love about railways? Today I was my first time in Elizabeth line and I actually got of from overground at Liverpool Street and took the met to barbican and took the Farringdon Elizabeth oin lift HOW cool was that!
Fab to meet you at Liverpool Street…… and thanks for the photo, more importantly thanks for the CZcams channel.
Love his passion for the purple train 💜
What’s not to love about railways? B for the Bear. 🐻
The idea put forward by Sarah at the beginning is actually not as far fetched as it sounds. In Middlesex Hospital in Goodge Street in the 50s when my mum used to take me to the out patients clinic there were different coloured stripes all the way to the department you were looking for. I used to love following the colour we needed. Green I called the District line (understandable) and it was usually the colour we needed.
Excellent, inclusive video with you and Sarah. Invaluable information.
What's not to love about railways?! So glad to see it Sarah's experience of the station. Another great video, Geoff.
What's not to love about railways! Thanks for this video series, Geoff. Really enjoying exploring London railways (from Australia) with you. Look forward to doing it myself again one day.
Great video. I did this exact journey today & loved watching your previous videos on the new line.
What a great weelchair boarding shot! 🌟
Exactly, what's not to love about railways? But yes, a purple line on the floor would be helpful. Especially if the maps and signs are blocked by other passengers.
What's not to love about railways? - I'm calling the incline lift the WONKAVATOR. I recently went from Kings Cross to Harrow on the Hill in my power chair, and it was brilliant. I hope they instal platform humps at Wood Lane soon though.
What’s not to love about railways?! Sending Support from Los Angeles, USA!
What's not to love about railways? (apart from several times the cost of flying and more expensive than driving) If we had the same system as Luxembourg then there would be a huge number of people on public transport and far less cars because IT'S FREE!
Whats not to love about railways.
It's not an inclined lift. It's a Wonkalator.
Very good video with Sarah displaying her needs very well. Lift to moorgate northern line who would have found that... Surely the longest corridor is the one at Waterloo linking jubliee with northern/bakerloo lines... It has its own travelators.
Liverpool Street station is one of my favourites due to the lift Being one of a kind (Except it's not) Really liking these recent videos Geoff thanks for making my day
going down to -9 is my favorite part.
@@SamSitar Why is there nine levels below ground. Why would you need that many??
At New York’s Jay Street MetroTech station, there are lines in the floor that direct you to different lines, like Sarah suggested
They should've added more clear signs on Liverpool St station on the platforms, that if you’re on the back end of the train you're more closer to Northern line Moorgate station and to walk down the platform to reach the Liverpool St concourse.
More signage around the station is definitely needed as it can be confusing to find your way around since it pretty much all looks the same.
Some people were unaware of this and ended up in Moorgate station after exisiting the back end of the train in Liverpool St station, causing more mins to their journey to go back around.
In the train they should announce in the affecting carriages to move up the train to go more closer to Liverpool St station. Just like how they do it in the shorter platform stations such as Forest gate, Manor Park and Maryland ect
It can be a bit confusing first time that you do it, but you soon get used to a routine. Signs on Liverpool Street Elizabeth Line platforms pointing the way to the "Northern Line" are , of course, Moorgate's platforms, and you have access to the Northern City Line as well, a vast improvement on before!!
(Since this was filmed, you no longer need to go "upstairs" at Liverpool Street for stations to Shenfield either!!)
What's not to love about railways? Everyone else is doing it so I'm jumping on board. I actually have been on the line from Heathrow last Sunday when BA cancelled my flight to Manchester. T5 to Paddington was so easy and when they open the through line it wil be a breeze to get to Euston. I arrived home about an hour later than if I'd flown and that includes the slow Sunday trains north.
What's not to love about railways? Note the detail of the chunky rubber gap filler in each platform doorway - the fact that the train has plug doors means that it has a looser fit in the station, so there's less of a piston effect (witness the absence of a breeze on the clear bin bags) and the end doors of the trains are right next to the driving cab bulkhead, which simplifies passenger flow onboard \m/
Loved Railways all my life. Worked on and around them a big chunk of my life
What's not to love about railways........ I travelled on the Elizabeth line yesterday from Farringdon to Abbey Wood, then back to Paddington. The platforms where wonderfully large and clean for the Elizabeth line and as your videos have shown, all the signage to/from the Elizabeth Line are very clear. I planned to go to Green Park to take photos of the RAF planes flying past Buckingham Palace, but found there was no circle line trains to Baker Street from Paddington, so had to get a district line train to Edgware Road, then get a train to Baker Street. On getting on the Jubilee from Baker Street, the passengers where told that Green Park station was closed due to overcrowding, so we would have to get off at Bond Street! If only Bond Street on the Elizabeth line was open, as this would have made the journey not only quicker but easier for me to be travelling. Anyway, I ended up getting off the Jubilee line train at Bond Street, then walking to Hyde Park passing Marble Arch train station.
Mezzanines for lifts are wild!
Mezzanini
What's not to love about railways? I'm in Sydney and enjoying our new Metro system.
What's not to love about railways?
I've loved these deep dives. Especially the guests. Always interesting to hear different views
the walk from the victoria line to exit in kings cross is quite long, haven’t timed it personally though!
I would regularly use Eurostar and suffer the long walk at Kings Cross St Pancras (with case, of course). I never got over how quickly I could get onto the platform coming back, although I did figure out that it was a different route.
Ah, the Tunnel of Doom.
“What is not to love about railways”….here in Canada, my 82 year old dad has been a railway lover for years. He helped to restore several steam engines and vintage railway cars and even helped fire one across Canada for Expo 86. He has edited the Canadian Trackside Guide for over 40 years! He has watched your stuff and likes it. I loved my visit to London and I am immensely jealous of your public transport systems. It was an amazing way to get around. I think your channel is good fun. Sadly for you Geoff, I am an Arsenal supporter. I don’t hold your love of the other North London squad against you though! Cheers.
What's not to love about railways..... Watching from Norway and loving these videos :)
Thank you for the video Geoff that was very informative. I live in Hertfordshire but the train I get goes to London Liverpool Street in 15 mins. It is a fantastic station.
So great to see the freedom a truly accessible railway can give everyone
What's not to love about the railways? Another great video, Geoff.
Great video Geoff, really enjoying them, looking forward to exploring these for myself shortly.
Thanks for measuring the time to change to Elizabeth line to Stratford. Liverpool Street looks especially large.
What's not to love about railways? The Horseshoe Curve. Historic PRR rolling stock at Harrisburg. Straight into Penn Station without worrying about traffic, tolls, or parking. Love The Amtrak Pennsylvanian.
Great vid. Cheers. They’ve done a grand job. A definite sci fi movie feel to the line. Worth the wait.
Great stuff, Sarah is a lovely guest 😊
What's not to love about the railways? I've enjoyed travelling on the trains since I was very young. Brilliant video BTW. :)
What's not to love about railways? Well, I live in America and I want MORE of them. We don't have nearly enough for them to get practical in most of America.
What’s not to love about railways?? Well done Geoff. Looking forward to more great videos about Crossrail and more.
What’s not to love about railways
So good you checked out handicapped accessibility.
I wonder how much fun it was for TfL to figure out how to do all those interconnects. Especially when they realized the Elizabeth Line platforms would be so long they can connect to several adjacent stations!
Also, I think you're a bit of a celebrity, Geoff. :-)
Changed at Liverpool Street earlier today. Elizabeth line to Central (Paddington to Leyton), nor in a wheelchair though, but the incline lift did look very cool.
these videos are incredible!!!
What's not to love about railways? (Especially the beautiful view and the short journeys)
What's not to love about railways? Seriously WHAT? The excitement of a journey planned and executed, the excitement of watching another Geoff Marshall video, the list is endless.
Question? With all these stations being linked by walking passageways/caverns/cathedrals/catacombs - do they all count as ONE stop if trying for a new record time for all the stations?
Thanks Geoff really good to see Sarah out and about with you,and great that EL is suitable for the accessibility needs of wheelchair users what's next ? How about an accessible Footbridge for Pilning!...
What’s not to love about railways?? In the UK and Europe that is. I grew up in Australia and live in the USA, there is very little to love about them in either country lol. But I’m coming in August to ride the Elizabeth line and I can’t wait! I have a T-shirt and mug coming in the mail
Well done thanks geoff.
Steve Murphy is a seriously cool CEO, well done that Man. More companies should have people like him running the show.
it feels like you have put so much effort in time into this series, such cool videos!
I’ve done the northern line connection to the elizabeth line, at this station a few times. Really useful. Means that the elizabeth line is well connected, from the east with Euston and Kingscross/St Pancras.
If travelling with heavy bags/suitcases from Liverpool Street mainline platforms to Paddington, I'd stick to the circle/ Hammersmith and city lines, they're a lot closer and easier to get to.
Great video about Liverpool Street Geoff!
What's not to love about railways? (I even travelled from Norwich to London just to have a ride on #PurpleTrain ,and you guessed it, I rode on a Class 745 operated by Greater Anglia from Norwich to London)
Three minutes for that corridor isn't bad! I've been used to walking from Liverpool St - the platforms which are now used for TfL Rail / Liz Line - to Moorgate station above ground, and that takes a minimum of 5 minutes.
This is going to be a Gamechanger for my Grandparents, my grandma has fibromyalga so has to use a walker, they live in essex and we live in scotland. So previously as there is only step free access on the Eastbound platform of the sub surface lines so they had to go all around the circle and change at baker street to get to kings cross. Now they can walk down the corridor here and get on at moorgate saving them probably about an hour. My uncles also live in Wiltshire so it means that when they go to visit them they can get the Elizabeth line straight from Liverpool Street to Paddington