Why FedEx Installed Anti-Missile Systems on its Airplanes

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    Why FedEx wants to install anti-missile systems on its cargo planes, is for the same reason the US government looked into installing similar defense systems on commercial airplanes. But why American airlines are still flying without protection, is #NotWhatYouThink #NWYT #longs
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  • @NotWhatYouThink
    @NotWhatYouThink  Před 2 lety +390

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      @Name-ot3xw Před 2 lety +6

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      @jesusduran4432 Před 2 lety +1

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      @sean1816 Před 2 lety +3

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  • @Infection3d
    @Infection3d Před 2 lety +9707

    Since it was to protect against missiles, then IT IS EXACTLY WHAT I THINK. 🧐

  • @michaelmoorrees3585
    @michaelmoorrees3585 Před 2 lety +2338

    And here I thought UPS was equipping their planes with sidewinders, and that's what FedEx was trying to counter. 😁

    • @sirankleknocker3122
      @sirankleknocker3122 Před 2 lety +354

      now I’m imagining a FedEx aircraft ending up in a dogfight with a UPS aircraft.

    • @BeforeBuildQC
      @BeforeBuildQC Před 2 lety +160

      @@sirankleknocker3122 imagine Amazon prime joining the chat. USPS literally can sit this one out.

    • @amahlaka
      @amahlaka Před 2 lety

      @@BeforeBuildQC amazon blimp just deploying a swarm of drones to destroy UPS and FedEx planes that are fighting each other

    • @noticedruid4985
      @noticedruid4985 Před 2 lety +92

      @@BeforeBuildQC why? They can just call the Airforce to have their back since they are part of the government lol.

    • @CEOkiller
      @CEOkiller Před 2 lety +52

      FedEx upped the ante with surplus AIM-54 Phoenix missiles….

  • @skopperkopp6091
    @skopperkopp6091 Před 2 lety +254

    The story of the DHL plane is a really amazing story of how skilled the pilots were. Even with the odds stacked against them they managed to land it. Highly recommend watching the documentary about it

  • @XMight13
    @XMight13 Před rokem +38

    I'm currently studying to become an aircraft maintenance engineer. One of my teachers was the first engineer to inspect the OO-DLL, which was shot by a missle. The plane had taken some severe damage, but they managed to land it, even without hydraulic power for flight control surfaces. The engines was sold and send to England. The rest of the plane was scrapped.

  • @SinisterMD
    @SinisterMD Před 2 lety +4134

    A laser hitting a fuel truck would have absolutely no effect. We're not talking about the COIL system. The lasers you're talking about above are designed to affect infrared sensors, not cause actual damage. Two completely different systems. Not to say that it can't cause vision/eye damage if it hits a person, but hitting a fuel truck is inconsequential.

    • @keech100
      @keech100 Před 2 lety +78

      I agree it isn't a death Star like laser but, would it be able to interfere with a safety system that is used on a fuel truck maybe like an important sensor etc? Genuine questions

    • @SinisterMD
      @SinisterMD Před 2 lety +243

      @@keech100 No, there aren't any systems on an airport fuel truck that would even register being painted by a laser. Other than hitting a driver in such a way it would interfere with their vision nobody would even notice. If it's truly an infrared laser it's not even something that you would register as visible light as it's outside the perceptible range for humans.

    • @thatravendude
      @thatravendude Před 2 lety +93

      @@SinisterMD you are correct that it would not hurt any equipment but it would blind a person in a fraction of a second. An unlikely situation so a non issue as far as I'm concerned but it would 100% blind you if it hit your eye

    • @thatravendude
      @thatravendude Před 2 lety +72

      @@SinisterMD we can't see inferred but it still interacts physically with our eyes

    • @qdaniele97
      @qdaniele97 Před 2 lety +65

      @@SinisterMD There absolutely no correlation between eyes being able to perceive light in a certain wavelength and being damaged by light in that same wavelength.
      An infrared laser with the right power is perfectly capable of blinding you permanently and is actually much more dangerous than a laser of the same power but in a visible wavelength because you can't see where the beam or dot is until the damage is done.
      A laser like the ones in those anti-missile system would never be able to set a fuel truck on fire but it would be more than enough to blind the driver.

  • @soulman4292
    @soulman4292 Před 2 lety +3480

    The DHL plane didn’t just have “some” of the hydraulic systems damaged. ALL of the hydraulic systems were damaged. Yet the pilots managed to land the plane safely, and they all lived.
    They landed the plane using thrust vectoring between engine one and two.
    This was of course made harder by the nose heavy nature of the plane due to the weight of their gigantic balls of solid steal.
    Kudos gentlemen!

    • @benjaminpadilla1464
      @benjaminpadilla1464 Před 2 lety +9

      Jesus dude

    • @tubaeseries5705
      @tubaeseries5705 Před 2 lety +12

      do passenger planes have thrust vectoring? honestly i doubt.

    • @SergejVolkov17
      @SergejVolkov17 Před 2 lety +104

      @@tubaeseries5705 of course they do. The thrust lever has different sticks for different engines, which can be adjusted independently.

    • @A.C.Walker
      @A.C.Walker Před 2 lety +44

      @@tubaeseries5705 I think he wrongfully meant that they used each engine independent thrust input to turn the aircraft.

    • @rmeav8er000
      @rmeav8er000 Před 2 lety +37

      I was there. I had just finished taxiing and parking when the hit happened. The crew did a phenomenal job keeping everything aligned on final and the aircraft came to rest just off of the active runway. My crew got to the aircraft just as the USAF security folks came over to secure the site.

  • @kylefoster2891
    @kylefoster2891 Před 2 lety +6

    I didn’t know UPS was such a threat to FedEx

  • @adenhickman5780
    @adenhickman5780 Před rokem +14

    If I had a nickel for every time Fed-X tried to put Anti-missile defenses on their planes, I would have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird it happened twice.

    • @fischerhansen5647
      @fischerhansen5647 Před rokem +3

      Right. Why didn’t they solve the export issue before trying again. That’s so weird / stupid.

  • @jaspertaylor4441
    @jaspertaylor4441 Před 2 lety +505

    That DHL flight didnt just have "some hydraulic systems damaged" the aircrafts 3 independent hydraulic systems were all compromised, the fact those pilots landed the plane was an incredible feat.

    • @thelionking3321
      @thelionking3321 Před 2 lety +12

      The fact that was caught on camera while giving out interview and demonstrating the hit is something else!! The journalist was shocked to the core on what they have witnessed✌🏻

    • @Jdubygamer
      @Jdubygamer Před 2 lety

      I believe they had to do this.

    • @christopherrobinson7541
      @christopherrobinson7541 Před 2 lety +3

      They landed in a minefield.

    • @AFoxGuy
      @AFoxGuy Před 2 lety +8

      It was the most damaged Airplane to have ever landed (While being safe and the plane Intact).

    • @TheMonkey747
      @TheMonkey747 Před rokem +1

      @@AFoxGuy Civilian plane, anyway.

  • @niagarawarrior9623
    @niagarawarrior9623 Před 2 lety +893

    15 years ago a friend of mine was recruited right out of a Canadian University by Northrop Grumman
    (in the US),
    he specialized in photonics,
    he was given high security clearance, and began working on the laser defense system
    of course he couldnt tell me anything of significance, but he did suggest it was an amazing system.

    • @feedbackzaloop
      @feedbackzaloop Před 2 lety +68

      To be recruited directly after graduation, let alone from Canada (or did you mean a quasi-university worldwide programme?), is a big move. After that he would say anything in favor of the employer

    • @Steamaroon
      @Steamaroon Před 2 lety +10

      The laser effects the infrared heat sensor of the seeker missile and causes it to think it’s already hitting its target and it explodes

    • @jimlthor
      @jimlthor Před 2 lety +22

      @@feedbackzaloop haha, I think just about everyone does that after being hired by any company.
      Last time I took a job, when people asked how I liked it, I told them to ask me in 6 months.

    • @hemendraravi4787
      @hemendraravi4787 Před 2 lety +13

      @@Steamaroon every body gangsta till more than 1 missiles are in the air , or if it’s a radar guided missile

    • @philipppasternak4451
      @philipppasternak4451 Před 2 lety +8

      @@jimlthor nope I talk shit about my employer on a daily basis. But I think beeing a nurse and in times of patients beeing a ressource and not humans it's just something different.

  • @geoffreyzziwambazza7862

    This is the first time a sponsored ad has actually peaked my interest. Thanks for the great content. I love watching your videos.

  • @TWOCOWS1
    @TWOCOWS1 Před 2 lety +2

    thanks for making and posting. must ve taken a lot of time and effort

  • @PTNLemay
    @PTNLemay Před 2 lety +1097

    I don't if it's directly comparable, but I was a laser technician for IR telecommunications lasers. And maintaining those was enough of a headache that I can imagine the airlines would never want to have to add that to a preflight checklist.

    • @speed65752
      @speed65752 Před 2 lety +66

      I'm an aircraft mechanic and I can imagine what kind of trouble it would mean having such a complicated system, subjected to periodical checks and repairs by the average engineer.....

    • @Surestick88
      @Surestick88 Před 2 lety +10

      It's not like this system would be on the MEL for the aircraft. If it doesn't work it can be fixed when convenient.

    • @bradwolf9410
      @bradwolf9410 Před 2 lety +36

      @@Surestick88 you sure about that? imagine if it got shot down while the ams wasn't functional...
      ...and we all know what "fixed when convenient" usually means.

    • @raikoafm702
      @raikoafm702 Před 2 lety +14

      @@bradwolf9410 If an aircraft had an inoperable laser they would just plane swap to go into the hot zone..

    • @NickCBax
      @NickCBax Před 2 lety +6

      @@bradwolf9410 As Raiko mentioned, it'd probably go on the MEL list for flying to TLV and other sensitive airports, and they'd swap planes as necessary, but it wouldn't be on the MEL list for most airports..

  • @djtetrapak
    @djtetrapak Před 2 lety +278

    I'm a little disappointed because I thought competing couriers were starting to install AA missiles on their planes...

    • @electron6825
      @electron6825 Před 2 lety +29

      It's not what you think

    • @itsjustyas7724
      @itsjustyas7724 Před 2 lety +53

      "And tower, FedEx 1821 fox 2..... and tower FedEx 1821 splash one good kill good kill su 57"

    • @zussman4902
      @zussman4902 Před 2 lety +25

      Now Russia will build SUPERMANUVERABLE cargo/passenger plane

    • @djtetrapak
      @djtetrapak Před 2 lety +1

      @@electron6825 it's never what I think 😫

    • @01Gshadow
      @01Gshadow Před 2 lety

      Me too, bro.
      Why FedEx wants to add anti-missile on their planes?
      "Because UPS fxckers have AA site all around the world." quoted one manager in FedEx.

  • @duncanmcallister7932
    @duncanmcallister7932 Před rokem

    This is why I love this channel. I had no idea this existed but I love finding out.

  • @BloodSteyn
    @BloodSteyn Před 2 lety +1

    Honestly, that cable testing range tidbit was awesome. Thanks, TIL.

  • @rmeav8er000
    @rmeav8er000 Před 2 lety +63

    I was on the taxiway when the SAM hit the DHL aircraft and watched it limp in on its approach and veer off of the BIAP runway. Surreal to see that pop in my youtube feed nearly two decades later.

  • @captain_commenter8796
    @captain_commenter8796 Před 2 lety +479

    Iraq: “If it flies it dies”
    “But sir that’s a unarmed cargo pla-“
    *“DID I STUTTER?”*

  • @redstoneablecz5742
    @redstoneablecz5742 Před rokem +6

    When you finally need to use one of them: Windows XP needs to download these updates....

  • @casey6104
    @casey6104 Před 2 lety +19

    Well keep in mind that they had a French air to air missile found at an American airport a few years back. These planes were probably involved in the logistics of things that were sensitive in some regard and had an advanced threat profile.

  • @ZekuChanU
    @ZekuChanU Před 2 lety +27

    Imagine WW3 be like
    Enemy general: “Who are we being attacked by?!”
    Enemy scout: “FedEx sir!”

  • @steinarjonsson_
    @steinarjonsson_ Před 2 lety +139

    The fact that the DHL plane was able to land with a sizable part of the wing missing is just amazing!

    • @darthkarl99
      @darthkarl99 Před 2 lety +5

      Civil Airliners are shockingly resilient in practise to sheer brute force. They have to be to be able to fly at all. It just isn't obvious in most accidents because of just how much force is happening when something does go sufficiently wrong.

    • @AFoxGuy
      @AFoxGuy Před 2 lety +5

      @@darthkarl99 Yes they are but.. the DHL is the only Airliner to have ever landed safely without all it's Hydraulics.

    • @claymoreroomba2921
      @claymoreroomba2921 Před rokem

      @@AFoxGuy not the only one

  • @ouki4925
    @ouki4925 Před 2 lety +3

    FedEx's war against UPS has escalated to a new level

  • @Wicc_234
    @Wicc_234 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice educational videos would’ve never knew this if it wasn’t for you

  • @karlfriedrich7758
    @karlfriedrich7758 Před 2 lety +846

    Anything that makes air travel safer is a good thing. If these systems can work effectively, it'd be worth it with the number of SAM systems that will no doubt get into the wrong hands in the next few years.

    • @Baggender
      @Baggender Před 2 lety +15

      @Mike Hoyer not the same.

    • @Handl3sAreStupid
      @Handl3sAreStupid Před 2 lety +76

      ​@Mike Hoyer If you cut people's arms off, then they can't shoplift 😂

    • @karlfriedrich7758
      @karlfriedrich7758 Před 2 lety +15

      @UC-zC6RD4Sd-R9xxzsscGZig besides the idiotic attempt at a 'gotcha' I'll answer it anyway. My qualifying comment was if they work effectively.
      Having every passenger's ass probed would obviously reduce the number of people interested in flying to probably nil unless you like the tickle of it, and is clearly entirely impractical and ineffective. Having a defensive system that only works 10% of the time and adds too much weight and fuel consumption is also a waste of time. If these systems are proven dependable enough and practical enough there are literally 10s of serious commercial accidents that could have been prevented and could be prevented in the future with how many MANPADS and other AA systems are going to seep into the wrong hands over the next few years.
      People mocked airframe parachutes in light aircraft yet one brand alone has saved over 500 lives.

    • @viktoriyaserebryakov2755
      @viktoriyaserebryakov2755 Před 2 lety +11

      A lot of these donated systems are leaking out of Ukraine into other parts of Europe. Such defences may become a necessity in the future.

    • @mdasikkhan1610
      @mdasikkhan1610 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Handl3sAreStupid they can still use rest of the body...

  • @SAMann729
    @SAMann729 Před 2 lety +90

    As a former FedEx employee who worked the ramp and knew about these, it is exactly what I thought.

    • @ToothlesstheNightFury510
      @ToothlesstheNightFury510 Před 2 lety

      Which airport were you at?

    • @SAMann729
      @SAMann729 Před 2 lety +3

      @@ToothlesstheNightFury510 KPHX

    • @ToothlesstheNightFury510
      @ToothlesstheNightFury510 Před 2 lety +3

      @@SAMann729 ah nice, I’m very close to Oakland airport and on the way to my fedex ground facility 🤣 I see the express planes and I’m amazed each time just for the fact that we humans created a world like the one we live in where packages are shipped in planes around the world.

    • @AnotherUselessID
      @AnotherUselessID Před 2 lety

      I was a DG agent at ONTR way back in the day and can confirm seeing these installed on a few planes that came in.

    • @MigorRortis
      @MigorRortis Před 2 lety +1

      Woooow! Look at you go!

  • @edwardbarber7976
    @edwardbarber7976 Před rokem +4

    Fedex just wants to grind its cargo in peace

  • @CheatOnlyDeath
    @CheatOnlyDeath Před 2 lety +338

    The reasons for failure (lack of adoption) could have and should have been easily foreseeable before implementation, particularly the export restrictions. Thus the whole development cost was perhaps wasted.

    • @zeroyuki92
      @zeroyuki92 Před 2 lety +18

      In the end it is just a side project to make defense contractors happy

    • @fidjeenjanrjsnsfh
      @fidjeenjanrjsnsfh Před 2 lety

      Much cheaper to stop US from selling stingers to the black market

    • @michaeljgraff
      @michaeljgraff Před 2 lety +7

      yeah the companies involved and the bureaucrats approving it knew it would never work. just suckling at the teet.

    • @ThomasJohnson-tm7ed
      @ThomasJohnson-tm7ed Před 2 lety +1

      @@piisfun military cargo planes already have chaff and flares but not much else

    • @gazzarafalemozzy4766
      @gazzarafalemozzy4766 Před 2 lety +2

      Funny i wouldve thought the govt should shoulder some cost to ensure safety of citizens especially in damgerous envirenments

  • @xilm22
    @xilm22 Před 2 lety +403

    this guy never disappoint with his videos

    • @Stormsolid
      @Stormsolid Před 2 lety +16

      well I was disappointed that he messed up his intro lol

    • @ahandlebar
      @ahandlebar Před 2 lety +11

      Its not what you think

    • @ExcavationNation
      @ExcavationNation Před 2 lety +5

      Bla dude this comment is about 4 months to late bro. Pick something else.

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  Před 2 lety +48

      🥉

    • @xilm22
      @xilm22 Před 2 lety +11

      @@NotWhatYouThink Thanks I been watching you for two years. Insane

  • @DRV-mt5dd
    @DRV-mt5dd Před 2 lety

    Very interesting, thank you!

  • @samuelslachmuylders2906
    @samuelslachmuylders2906 Před 2 lety +6

    Meanwhile in a parallel universe:
    “Jedi not Jet eye”

  • @filipposaccobalderico9692
    @filipposaccobalderico9692 Před 2 lety +43

    From FedEx to DefEx

  • @e.sstudios1015
    @e.sstudios1015 Před 2 lety +161

    Is your channel equipped with advance missile system against any potential demonetization?

  • @vejet
    @vejet Před 2 lety

    2:19 aww... you had me excited there for a moment 😌

  • @polishKGB
    @polishKGB Před rokem +3

    I love how when I seek in 99% of yt videos, I can always tell where the ad break is. I wish CZcamsrs had a better way for doing videos without these terrible ads.

    • @Dryblack1
      @Dryblack1 Před rokem

      They could run them at the end

    • @hamsterfromabove8905
      @hamsterfromabove8905 Před rokem +1

      @@Dryblack1 Nobody stays at the end if the ads were put there. That's why they got moved to the middle. They don't make money from ads if nobody actually watches them.

    • @Dryblack1
      @Dryblack1 Před rokem

      @@hamsterfromabove8905 Yes. Unfortunately, most people choose to increase their revenue by making their product worse rather than better. Nothing you can do about it as a consumer other than stop consuming.

  • @user-xz9hu4rd2v
    @user-xz9hu4rd2v Před 2 lety +87

    As a FedEx pilot I flew a few times the MD-10s that had the MANPAD systems, but they were deactivated.

    • @henryschmidt485
      @henryschmidt485 Před 2 lety +4

      Do you mean like the planes had a system to defend against manpads

    • @mrredpill3121
      @mrredpill3121 Před 2 lety +1

      So you never had to experience the warning indicator, next to you're master caution?

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 Před 2 lety

      @@henryschmidt485 Did you not see/listen to the video?

    • @obsidianjane4413
      @obsidianjane4413 Před 2 lety

      IIRC they were only ever active when servicing the DoD contracts.

    • @henryschmidt485
      @henryschmidt485 Před 2 lety +3

      @@obsidianjane4413 well I was just confused by the comment because manpads stands for man portable air defense systems like the stinger missile which are used to shoot down aircraft

  • @johnnyboi1125
    @johnnyboi1125 Před 2 lety +3

    0:24 the fact that he didn’t finish told me that this was serious…

  • @granatmof
    @granatmof Před rokem +1

    Export license is also required for domestic based operations involving foreign citizens. I've used export controlled software and we were discouraged from using cloud based services for data backup to be in export compliance. There was also issue with the IT personelle managing the server the software operated on had to US citizens.

  • @DN-kp4jn
    @DN-kp4jn Před 2 lety +6

    Anyone else notice the girl at 7:27 trying to take the perfect selfie lol

  • @galadato7425
    @galadato7425 Před 2 lety +55

    8:20 the rockets fired from gaza are not guided thus the protection system is not effective, EL AL kept flying because they serve as the gate to israel.

    • @speedbirdconcorde001
      @speedbirdconcorde001 Před 2 lety +16

      Which is why they have the Iron Dome to intercept it; unguided Qassam rockets can be avoided by taking evasive action. Remember the time when an El Al 707 did a nosedive to neutralise 2 hijackers - the only time an inflight hijacking was foiled

    • @militarynerdsnek7639
      @militarynerdsnek7639 Před 2 lety +1

      Chad el al pilots B)

  • @klaytonb9609
    @klaytonb9609 Před rokem +4

    Honestly I didn't think it would be so advanced. I just imagined a 737 spitting out flares like an AC-130

    • @Kid574
      @Kid574 Před rokem

      Flares alone without proper timing and maneuvering are pretty much useless with such massive planes

  • @Rasscasse
    @Rasscasse Před 10 měsíci

    Interesting video. Thank you.

  • @aviationgaming1564
    @aviationgaming1564 Před 2 lety +143

    The Airbus A300 that was hit had lost all hydraulics I believe which made the aircraft very difficult to fly as they couldn’t use any of the conventional controls (ailerons, rudder, elevators) and had to rely only on the engine thrust.

    • @funnyyylock
      @funnyyylock Před 2 lety

      Don't forget the plane being overloaded with the pilots massive balls.

    • @xcr8ivex708
      @xcr8ivex708 Před 2 lety +21

      @Apsoy Pike That has happened before, and people have landed planes like that

    • @xcr8ivex708
      @xcr8ivex708 Před 2 lety +1

      @Apsoy Pike Nope. There have been instances where the plane was mid-flight and miles away from an airport

    • @cattraknoff
      @cattraknoff Před 2 lety +8

      @@xcr8ivex708 Funny how your life being on the line could put you "in the zone" for piloting.

    • @aviationgaming1564
      @aviationgaming1564 Před 2 lety +7

      @Apsoy Pike it was damn near impossible for them. As far as I know they’re the only ones to pull it off.

  • @taktuscat4250
    @taktuscat4250 Před 2 lety +32

    It's all fun and games until the missile becomes radar guided🥲

    • @thefolder69
      @thefolder69 Před 2 lety +12

      that would be more expensive and more exclusive, making it much less likely that terrorists could get their hands on them and want to use them on civilian aircraft

    • @hphp31416
      @hphp31416 Před 2 lety

      In recent years most airliners were shot down by radar guided russian made sam systems

    • @militarynerdsnek7639
      @militarynerdsnek7639 Před 2 lety +2

      @@thefolder69 still happend tho

    • @affan3095
      @affan3095 Před 2 lety +2

      @@thefolder69 don't worry cia will give tyem to test new weapons..
      Like they always do either in Ukraine or Iraq

    • @kirayoshikage4057
      @kirayoshikage4057 Před 2 lety

      @@affan3095 or simply in USA. A lot of mass shooters lately that were all known to CIA but somehow ended up killing people anyway. I wonder why a person known to violence is allowed to do something before anything is done about it.
      It's almost like all these "terrorism" acts are carried out by noone else but US government itself.

  • @R-C.
    @R-C. Před 2 lety +1

    I never comment about sponsored content but that ground news website is really special.

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  Před 2 lety +1

      I’ve been using it too since the first sponsorship (I hadn’t heard of them prior to that).

  • @drewjonespdx
    @drewjonespdx Před 5 měsíci

    So many thoughts and questions after watching this

  • @BigBrex0124
    @BigBrex0124 Před 2 lety +122

    a big issue as well is countries stopping the planes and stealing the system

    • @Shinzon23
      @Shinzon23 Před 2 lety

      Self destruct system that without authorized users removing it causes the internal systems to slag themselves.
      Similar systems have been used for classified radios and computers for decades.

    • @brandosotelo5780
      @brandosotelo5780 Před 2 lety +5

      That I can imagine

    • @trevorh6438
      @trevorh6438 Před 2 lety +4

      Then just add a missile launch system and cannons to the vessel with letters of marque and reprisal so it can defend that system from theft, or reprise it back afterwards.

    • @kirayoshikage4057
      @kirayoshikage4057 Před 2 lety

      Yeah bro, noone but USA has this ingenious next generation laser technology that totally is top secret and unknown to anyone, and the rest of the world is dying to acquire this.

    • @luislongoria6621
      @luislongoria6621 Před 2 lety

      Russia is trying to get Viktor Bout released from prison

  • @DAFLIDMAN
    @DAFLIDMAN Před 2 lety +62

    Given the issues with licensing wouldn't it be easier to equip the aircraft with chaff/flairs? as that's old simple technology that doesn't require licensing to my understanding.

    • @Victor-ze3sd
      @Victor-ze3sd Před 2 lety +21

      You would still need detection devices, I don't really get why a heat detector/camera connected to a laser pointer needs so much licensing. The software is likely the most important part and that doesn't need service nor examination and could be encrypted to prevent other countries from accessing it.

    • @jonathanislikecool
      @jonathanislikecool Před 2 lety +18

      Maybe not export control licensing, but you'd definitely run into regulatory problems associated with handling of pyrotechnical devices in close proximity to operations prone to flammability such as refueling and maintenance on oxygen systems. Probably insurance issues as well, if an unintentionally released flare starts a fire.

    • @elisnider8191
      @elisnider8191 Před 2 lety +21

      Problem is, the stinger is designed to ignore flares and since the airliner wont be pulling any maneuvers, a hard kill system seems like the best choice

    • @jimsvideos7201
      @jimsvideos7201 Před 2 lety +1

      Just try pitching airlines on _anything_ that involves explosives, particularly devices that have to be loaded, unloaded, stored and shipped. It's hard enough to do all that for military aircraft.

    • @termitreter6545
      @termitreter6545 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Victor-ze3sd Because its a detector specifically designed to track missiles and a laser specifically designed to blind IR sensors. There might be alot of companies that can make tech like that in theory, but actually knowing how to use it and disable missiles is way more complicated. That includes the capabilities, not just the software.
      It also got restrictions for a reaosn, for once; if someone gets their hand on the tech, that makes it likely easier to develope missile to counter the system.

  • @LucidDreamer54321
    @LucidDreamer54321 Před rokem

    They are committed to knocking out the competition.

  • @Genuinespaceman
    @Genuinespaceman Před rokem

    Every time I hear “Not What You Think” it makes me glad I watch this video

  • @ec8107
    @ec8107 Před 2 lety +17

    FedEx needs to figure out how to send a package from NY to Michigan without first sending it to California 🙄

    • @johnbaxster8010
      @johnbaxster8010 Před 2 lety +2

      lt goes to memphis first and then to its destination

    • @bluestillplayz8640
      @bluestillplayz8640 Před 2 lety

      No first it has to go to California to see how bad we want it then if we make a complaint then they have to make some bs reason we don't have our package

    • @Sulto_
      @Sulto_ Před 2 lety

      @@bluestillplayz8640 its a transit route, ship with someone else if you don't like it.

    • @bluestillplayz8640
      @bluestillplayz8640 Před 2 lety

      @@Sulto_ what ever FedEx atleast ships on time or earlier than expected

  • @ltpenniss6691
    @ltpenniss6691 Před 2 lety +7

    Your best work yet. The ITAR requirements would be monumental at best. The security clearances required for maintenance and the possible external "AGENCIES" that could obtain this system information. Then if installed every aircraft would be considered a military jet and all of it's occupants are suddenly combatants. The list goes on and on.

  • @sam8404
    @sam8404 Před 10 měsíci

    4:57 that looks like the best job in history. "What do you do?"
    "I fire Stingers at model airplanes."

  • @billdurham8477
    @billdurham8477 Před 2 lety +2

    Hasn't El Al had this for years, and the occasional sidewinder for travel in the immediate neighborhood when things heat up?

  • @King_Of_Pepsi
    @King_Of_Pepsi Před 2 lety +9

    I’ve been using Ground news for a while after I saw it in one of your videos and I use it a lot now. Its a really good way to get some news that I may have missed.

  • @pythonboi5816
    @pythonboi5816 Před 2 lety +5

    Bruh YT recommendations are soo good
    I just watched a video on the DHL being hit
    Now I’m here

  • @omegasupremez2832
    @omegasupremez2832 Před 2 lety

    Makes sense to me in this world today!

  • @Techie1224
    @Techie1224 Před rokem

    1:47 a beautiful wire harness specially when you need to diagnose a problem 🤣🤣🤣

  • @toptiergaming6900
    @toptiergaming6900 Před 2 lety +12

    The DHL actually lost all its hydraulics and landed only on variable engine thrust

  • @CAAStudios
    @CAAStudios Před 2 lety +110

    "Why a transport company needs military tech..."
    First off, a well armed society is a polite one.

    • @StCreed
      @StCreed Před 2 lety +12

      So the manpads make people more polite? What do you base that on?

    • @CAAStudios
      @CAAStudios Před 2 lety

      @@StCreed I base that on the fact that president biden has threatened to use "fighter jets" on people like me because we share a different opinion. Also why the hell not? They look cool as hell and can be responsibly used, against a tyrannical government perhaps.

    • @Reznor1974
      @Reznor1974 Před 2 lety +42

      @@StCreed Wouldn't you complement someone's shiny new MANPAD?

    • @bbbbbbb8567
      @bbbbbbb8567 Před 2 lety

      A country with a new school shooting every week is near the bottom of the list of polite societies

    • @wyvernharries4788
      @wyvernharries4788 Před 2 lety +18

      @@Reznor1974 My my, what a fine Stinger missile system you have there.

  • @maxsinventions8913
    @maxsinventions8913 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video

  • @5000rgb
    @5000rgb Před 2 lety +1

    You know, If I'm thinking flying somewhere is unsafe, the plane having an anti missile system won't really soothe my nerves.

  • @Logarithm906
    @Logarithm906 Před 2 lety +9

    I doubt that type of laser could hurt anyone or blow up a fuel truck as all they're design to do is blind the sensor.
    I mean a decent flashlight can temporarily blind a person if you focus it well enough but if you shine it on fuel truck it's not going to make it explode...

    • @trevorh6438
      @trevorh6438 Před 2 lety

      Lasers are concentrated enough that they can damage eyesight at any power level, higher power levels just damage it worse and even their scatter can damage eyesight without protection.

    • @stanielb2005
      @stanielb2005 Před 2 lety +1

      Without any specific knowledge, I suspect those lasers are deep IR lasers in the 5 to 50W range.
      Basically, if it hits your face, you'll have no idea why your retinas just melted.

    • @kirayoshikage4057
      @kirayoshikage4057 Před 2 lety +1

      Then you clearly have no idea what kind of laser you need to confuse a missile IR sensor because a flashlight isn't going to do it.
      Lasers used in performance shows can set human flesh on fire if you give it enough time, and guess what, military lasers are more powerful than that.

  • @jasonmyneni8605
    @jasonmyneni8605 Před 2 lety +4

    There is a damn good reason Israeli airlines planes have flare dispensers. There are a lot of people in that region that dont like them, so there is a fairly high risk of missiles

    • @militarynerdsnek7639
      @militarynerdsnek7639 Před 2 lety

      Chad Israeli commercial pilots using chaff and flares

    • @kirayoshikage4057
      @kirayoshikage4057 Před 2 lety

      Of course jews would have flares on their own planes, while in USA (Israeli colony) a plane cannot have even that because "sorry sir, money printer broke".

    • @militarynerdsnek7639
      @militarynerdsnek7639 Před 2 lety +1

      @@kirayoshikage4057 wtf are you on about? "Israeli colony"???

    • @kirayoshikage4057
      @kirayoshikage4057 Před 2 lety

      @@militarynerdsnek7639 you'll figure it out when you pull your head out of your ass and look around your surroundings for long enough.

  • @HeinzUlrich65
    @HeinzUlrich65 Před 2 lety +1

    There is a very good May Day Episode to the missile attack from 0:30

  • @kitchenbriks3685
    @kitchenbriks3685 Před rokem

    That DHL flight was shot at while a reporter was with the people that shot at. There is film of it if you search on youtube.

  • @thebush6077
    @thebush6077 Před 2 lety +9

    This is hands down the coolest thing I've never heard. Hope all aircraft get this, regardless of if they're for shipping or passengers.

    • @LaidBackDeveloper
      @LaidBackDeveloper Před rokem

      El Al currently is the only airline that has this kind of tech installed on their planes

  • @mattkaczorowski3099
    @mattkaczorowski3099 Před 2 lety +39

    Another implementation could be a network of drones or ground stations guarding the hotspots. The drones could have the system installed, defending an airspace. It could solve the problems of having airlines installing the systems and the export issues. Of course this would only work in certain countries.

    • @pinkman4928
      @pinkman4928 Před 2 lety +6

      Why would you use drones to defend airspace? It would be cheaper and more effective to use laser ground stations but by then you would assume that that territory is already safe, most missile attacks are on places where the area security is low so you wouldn't expect to have drones nearby. (Not to mention how would you fit a guiding system on a hover drone)

    • @kirayoshikage4057
      @kirayoshikage4057 Před 2 lety

      @@pinkman4928 "but by then you would assume that territory is already safe". Yeah bro, just stop producing nukes already, your enemy is just going to assume that you still have them lmao.

    • @BreadIsKindaGood
      @BreadIsKindaGood Před rokem

      “They were guided by an unseen force… belkan technology”

    • @jude_the_apostle
      @jude_the_apostle Před 10 měsíci

      Rather than guard it just list it as a no-fly zone? SAM systems that can reach over 15,000 ft are a pretty trackable import. For one to be offensive against civilian aircraft would mean a serious conflict is already taking place there and airlines would know about the risk.

  • @Assaultz217OnMC
    @Assaultz217OnMC Před 11 měsíci +1

    Take a drink every time he says not what you think.
    **Casually overhydrates**

  • @Zyron_Guy01
    @Zyron_Guy01 Před 2 lety +1

    Welp, finally...i guess, a NWYT video where some things are EXACTLY what we think

  • @phantomaviator1318
    @phantomaviator1318 Před 2 lety +5

    If and when I get a personal aircraft
    I wanna get one of these on it. Flares, chaff, and a RWR

  • @ivanstepanovic1327
    @ivanstepanovic1327 Před 2 lety +37

    Well, it could be effective against some older MANPADS, but the first question is how would this perform against newer ones? After all, there is constant race between a tool and countertool... Second, what about missiles with other guidance type, such as older Blowpipe? They don't use IR homing.

    • @WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq
      @WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq Před 2 lety +2

      You got a point, buy I imagine being abke to counter old systems on low-meduim value targets would serve its purposes fine especially if it can make use of dev wastes we need to do but won't profit long term off of
      The more expensive every hit costs, and the cheaper and more efficiently the defense can be done, the less likely somebody will want to do hits. If you can get the cost of a hit to quarter a hostile countries total yearly revenue there more likely to play the politics game instead of the war game

    • @Mike-ukr
      @Mike-ukr Před 2 lety +4

      The Blowpipe is famous for being unable to hit anything

    • @wurfyy
      @wurfyy Před 2 lety +3

      They're delivering your anime figurines to you, not bombs to Moscow. They don't need to worry about everything.

    • @chas1878
      @chas1878 Před 2 lety +2

      Noo need for defense against other types of targeting systems when the majority are relying on IR. Would be a unreasonably high effort for minimal retutn

    • @SonnyBubba
      @SonnyBubba Před 2 lety

      No defense is perfect.

  • @DaBlueB
    @DaBlueB Před 2 lety +4

    El Al is the only commercial airline to equip its planes with missile defense systems to protect its planes against surface-to-air missiles.

  • @olegkowalski8566
    @olegkowalski8566 Před rokem

    0:51 thats a nice supercell in the background

  • @melby283
    @melby283 Před 2 lety +6

    Now they are going to need turret modifications and a cannon on its side oh wait I accidentally turned a plane into a AC-130

  • @Mika-ph6ku
    @Mika-ph6ku Před 2 lety +25

    I was already thinking this should have been a thing for a while. Even without the recent accident it just makes sense for civilian aircraft to have countermeasures in place for an attack from a military aircraft or ground installation. What good is it to leave them completely defenseless against an attack when many of them will end up flying in the airspace of unstable countries anyway?

    • @trevorh6438
      @trevorh6438 Před 2 lety

      Need letters of marque to outfit private vessels with military arms.

    • @platiuscyndar9017
      @platiuscyndar9017 Před 2 lety

      @Bu8813z I feel like at least part of the reason they do this is because they've determined that the cost of developing and installing these systems to their planes is outweighed by a combination of the good PR and the fact that their actual insurance premiums on their planes will take a deep dive with this system installed.

    • @kirayoshikage4057
      @kirayoshikage4057 Před 2 lety +1

      @Bu8813z even if they spent 0.0000001% of their flight out of reach of a MANPAD, all it takes is for a missile to connect with the target. In other words, a crash is basically guaranteed unless the missile doesn't connect properly, like in DHL accident.
      Your odds of dying in a car crash are 1 in 107. Now, before you start coping about it being high, remember that this is over a lifetime. So you drive your car everyday, for 60 years, and your odds of dying in a car crash over that span is less than 1%... Now explain to me, mr genius, why you use a seatbealt despite your odds of dying in a car crash being non-existent, and then we can talk about the "only 20% of the flight time is the plane vulnerable".

    • @kirayoshikage4057
      @kirayoshikage4057 Před 2 lety

      @Bu8813z because I'm not discussing this with a jew who upvotes his own comments.

  • @TheMonkey747
    @TheMonkey747 Před rokem +2

    I thought flares worked, too? But then there's the inherent fire hazard... I'd like to see the C-130's flare system installed as a minimum. It looks so cool when it fires. Angel wings...

  • @heinedenmark
    @heinedenmark Před rokem

    I was surprised, way back in 2003 in Kabul, when FedEx delivered some spare parts we needed.

  • @magivkmeister6166
    @magivkmeister6166 Před 2 lety +11

    FedEx gonna give it to ya

  • @Deadeye313
    @Deadeye313 Před 2 lety +24

    These missiles are predominantly infrared seeking missiles, why not just a simple detection system and flare launcher on? Far cheaper and if you go back a couple generations, probably wouldn't matter exporting it as the chicoms and Russians would already have better tech themselves so any theft and reverse engineering would be pointless to worry about.
    The laser is one of those things that sounds cool, but if it can't be done, go old school low tech and cheap.

    • @kallas1558
      @kallas1558 Před 2 lety +3

      This is the part where I offer a token 'flares arent entirely reliable.'

    • @josh3771
      @josh3771 Před 2 lety +3

      And dangerous if things go very wrong

    • @DeNihility
      @DeNihility Před 2 lety +2

      And the one time they do install flares, the missile fired was an ARM. Well poop, ain't it?

    • @The2wheelmadness
      @The2wheelmadness Před 2 lety +3

      Flares are classed as ammo/pyrotechnics and have to be handled as such by trained personel. It would be a nightmare trying to operate such an aircraft on commercial airports.

    • @Deadeye313
      @Deadeye313 Před 2 lety +2

      @@The2wheelmadness probably a good time, then, for some kind of commercial, consumer grade version be developed to fill this gap.
      All these multi-billion dollar defense contractors and they can't think of a way to make a low cost, reliable system that will only need a technician to do basic maintenance and checking once every 6 months or a year?

  • @Clone-Commander-Thire

    Love the Star Wars reference. 😂

  • @RamadaArtist
    @RamadaArtist Před 2 lety +2

    9:19 "You can just imagine the lawsuits, after a laser misfires and hits a person, or another airplane, or a fuel truck."
    I mean, unless any of those devices/organisms are dependent on FLIR for basic navigation, then I think you'll be fine.

  • @ichemnutcracker
    @ichemnutcracker Před 2 lety +3

    lol. Just imagine an anti-laserstrike laser system: some punk kid shoots a laser pointer he got from the dollar store at the cockpit of an airplane... and then instantly has his retinas fried out by a kilowatt infrared laser.

    • @christopherrobinson7541
      @christopherrobinson7541 Před 2 lety

      It is against the 3rd Geneva Convention to deploy a laser system that is designed to blind the unaided eye.
      Lasers come in type levels:-
      Razzle
      Dazzle
      Frazzle

  • @petergould1621
    @petergould1621 Před 2 lety +5

    That's when you know the world's truly fcked
    When the mail services need anti missile systems

    • @stanielb2005
      @stanielb2005 Před 2 lety

      Mail has always been heavily defended. It makes sense considering warzones still need deliveries.

  • @b.h.6599
    @b.h.6599 Před rokem

    the white sands aerial cable range seems like a prime candiate for a tom scott video

  • @jeremybeaverson7167
    @jeremybeaverson7167 Před rokem

    Disabling some of the hydraulics try all its was one of the most impressive landing in aviation history

  • @francisbalfour1243
    @francisbalfour1243 Před 2 lety +5

    What other purpose would it be for? To blind anyone who uses a laser pointer at planes for revenge?

    • @kirayoshikage4057
      @kirayoshikage4057 Před 2 lety

      Well, you see, we all know that airliner pilots cannot be trusted with anything and they're basically all evil, that's why we allow them to have complete control over 200+ lives at once and sometimes, very important cargo that if lost, could lead to their execution; giving them a giant laser pointer wouldn't end well... Anyway I'm going back to bombing another 3rd world country, but don't worry about it, I do it for good.

  • @leonardmilcin7798
    @leonardmilcin7798 Před rokem +7

    Sometimes the FedEx plane flying higher empties their lavatory and the FedEx flying lower needs an anti-missile system to defend itself from the quickly dropping icicle.

  • @zacharystevens9923
    @zacharystevens9923 Před 2 lety

    Thanks!

  • @BitSmythe
    @BitSmythe Před rokem

    1:58. Absolutely brilliant name! 🤪

  • @TheDude50447
    @TheDude50447 Před 2 lety +9

    Manpads are mostly infrared guided. So its not just a simple radar warning device but a good chunk of additional tech to detect the launch. Flare and chaff might come in handy as well while generally the best defence against manpads is altitude and speed.

    • @hiteshadhikari
      @hiteshadhikari Před 2 lety +4

      Chaff is to blind radar, not an ir missile
      Also flares by a huge slow aircraft which is landing wont make much difference

    • @TheDude50447
      @TheDude50447 Před 2 lety

      @@hiteshadhikari chaff against rdr guided aa missiles while youre at it. If youre putting on dispensers anyway a bit of chaff wont hurt. Flaring an IR missile especially older generation ones is always a good idea. And if it just works 1 out of 10 times its still worth it.

    • @hiteshadhikari
      @hiteshadhikari Před 2 lety +3

      @@TheDude50447 u know costs?
      2nd do u think chaff is anyway going to save a huge metal foil in air which has an rcs of a building?

    • @TheDude50447
      @TheDude50447 Před 2 lety

      @@hiteshadhikari chaff doesnt save a fighter if not used correctly. It depends on the type of radar. If its a doppler radar tracking then the radar can only see movement but no target that isnt moving towards or away from it. Its more complicated than that but generally once you get a missile launch warning you can see on your radar warner from where you are being tracked. Then you turn 90 degrees offset from that tracking device and start dropping chaff while lasering the missile in this case. And then you hope you can either destroy it or it goes stupid. But generally a radar guided missile inside a zone where you cant outrun it is extremely hard to avoid. Youre probably right and it wont matter but chaff dispensers are much much cheaper than a laser and they might be able to save a plane one day. Like were probably talkign a few thousand dollars per plane. Basically nothing for a company like fed ex.

    • @hiteshadhikari
      @hiteshadhikari Před 2 lety +2

      @@TheDude50447 u realise that doppler radars are not used as FCR right? For a firing solution u need a much more clear lock not a ping return.... Most sam have radars which can detect fighter sized targets at good range, for an aircraft which is huge range is 2 to 3 times the detection range of even a larger sized fighter radar. These aircraft are simply not agile enough to escape even half decent Radar guided missiles let alone state of the art. No amount of chaff can save them as even if chaff protects, the aircrafts are slow and will not be able to escape or even dive down to protect from radar tracking or to drag the missile down

  • @yoshikiharo1020
    @yoshikiharo1020 Před rokem +3

    What happened to Flares? Not a single mention of the pro or cons

    • @ddavidebor
      @ddavidebor Před rokem

      I think flares are not that hard to differentiate from an engine, probably only effective on old missiles with very simple electronics.

  • @kingjohn219
    @kingjohn219 Před 2 lety +1

    Jedi to missile: This is not the plane your looking for.

  • @WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq
    @WhatHappenedIn-vt3vq Před 2 lety +1

    Imagine trying to do a preemptive strike starting a war and getting clapped by FedEx before it can even get rolling

  • @fighter5583
    @fighter5583 Před 2 lety +5

    1:25 That's part of the wreckage of TWA FLT 800 when it broke apart just minutes after leaving JFK. However, this wasn't caused by terrorists; rather, it was a combination of fuel vapors and faulty wiring running through the center tank. This piece of the fuselage is probably still at the NTSB training center.

    • @parker02311
      @parker02311 Před 2 lety

      Yeah, thought I recognized that from another crash.

    • @kalerobertson1287
      @kalerobertson1287 Před rokem

      Can't speculate as to why, but their is every indication of deception in their investigative process. Those findings are a cover up. When you consider the unidentified radar tracks leading up to the crash, the crucial evidence that went missing during the investigation, the improbability of their explanation, the scores of witnesses to the missile, the investigators own doubts about the findings, the discouraging treatment of the witnesses by the investigators, there can be no question. And I'm not a conspiracy theorist by any means.

    • @fighter5583
      @fighter5583 Před rokem

      @@kalerobertson1287 What evidence of "deception" are you talking about?And what unidentified radar tracks? You mean the pieces of the aircraft just after it blew apart? This situation wasn't like the problem wen Iran shot down a Ukrainian 737 or when the U.S. Navy misidentified an A300 as an F-14 and shot that down.

  • @naravishthongnok5899
    @naravishthongnok5899 Před rokem +6

    0:36 the plane didn't just lost some of the hydraulic, they lost all 3 hydraulic systems, the only thing they could control was throttle. One of a few instances of a plane landing without any hydraulic.

  • @cronosx6174
    @cronosx6174 Před rokem +1

    I liked that part at 2:22 BAE Systems developed JetEye...not Jed-i ..😂

  • @patrickrico2467
    @patrickrico2467 Před 2 lety

    5mins in: ..."it may sound strange"...it sounds like amazing fun more like. I used to do something similar with an air rifle and cheap foam gliders when I was younger!

  • @magicalhats
    @magicalhats Před 2 lety +3

    Now that I think about it, I think all commercial airlines should have anti missile systems.