Why F-35 Don't Fly During Thunderstorms

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    7:55 Solution to Lightning Strikes and Fuel Vapor
    11:47 Why F-35 Can't Fly During Thunderstorms
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Komentáře • 1,3K

  • @metamorphis7
    @metamorphis7 Před 2 lety +1998

    Electrons take the path of least resistance, so a Faraday cage is just a fancy name of a big conductive box

    • @hydrogencyanide4999
      @hydrogencyanide4999 Před 2 lety +120

      Current takes ALL paths, just that the most amount of charge flows through the path of least resistance.

    • @AverageAlien
      @AverageAlien Před 2 lety +29

      they take all paths available to them

    • @ioannis.tsampras
      @ioannis.tsampras Před 2 lety +55

      not that simple, faraday cages also shield against em radiation . also, current flows through all available paths so your explanation needs a follow up.

    • @gyrogearloose1345
      @gyrogearloose1345 Před 2 lety +36

      Oh yes, the same way a gasoline engine is just a bunch of iron?
      Thank you for your deep insight!

    • @yaz2928
      @yaz2928 Před 2 lety +10

      Electrons take all paths available, it's just that most electrons will take the path of least resistance.

  • @hoyks1
    @hoyks1 Před 2 lety +600

    In their defence of Cat A damage: it doesn't take much damage to an aircraft to rack up a $2.5 mil repair bill.

    • @svenmorgenstern9506
      @svenmorgenstern9506 Před 2 lety +27

      In an environment where toilet seats run $8K a pop, I'm inclined to agree.

    • @sorennilsson9742
      @sorennilsson9742 Před 2 lety +2

      Well the repair bill was probably 30 million.

    • @t1mb3rfps80
      @t1mb3rfps80 Před 2 lety +11

      god forbid someone touches a conformal antenna without gloves on.... Thats expensive...

    • @truthsRsung
      @truthsRsung Před 2 lety +3

      Cat A was solely for loss of life 'til those same accountants got involved.
      Tell me, what's the cost of placing passenger seats facing backwards vs their value WHEN an aircraft crashes?
      What should one expect to pay to defy gravity?

    • @marjanstojanovic2663
      @marjanstojanovic2663 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sorennilsson9742
      1999 one B2bomber crushin in Croatia when be a struck by lightning over Serbia

  • @novapixel16
    @novapixel16 Před 2 lety +494

    Short answer : F-35s prohibited flying in or near thunderstorms due to issues with its onboard inert gas generation system, or OBIGGS. ... Damages to the tubes that deliver the nitrogen-enriched air led to lightning flight restrictions in June 2020

    • @dyreksmith5884
      @dyreksmith5884 Před 2 lety +62

      12:03 Thank you, novapixel. I understand that ytbers want u to watch their entire video . But damn, sometimes a 30sec clip could do the trick...

    • @truthsRsung
      @truthsRsung Před 2 lety +9

      That's the short answer from the government who's most expensive, complicated, and secret toy doesn't work in adverse conditions.
      What's the "WHOLE STORY" Nova?
      What's your take on the CIA producing content for news sources after TWA flight 800¿?¿
      I don't recall them having authority on any matter On U.S. soil, aircraft related or not.

    • @AureliusR
      @AureliusR Před 2 lety +27

      @@truthsRsung That is the "whole story". Why does there have to be more?

    • @Helix597
      @Helix597 Před 2 lety +21

      @@AureliusR Because people like stocking up government conspiracies which may or may not be true to start fights in comment sections.

    • @truthsRsung
      @truthsRsung Před 2 lety +1

      @@AureliusR ....The initial reports in situations like this, from this source, have a "trend" to be false.
      It isn't rarely, or sporadic.
      Ask this question,
      If the OBIGGS was toast, after a lightning strike, what else was damaged?
      Is this component cherry picked by the lightning (as it's sworn enemy😘) or the smiling Press Rep. from the Armed Forces?
      When the public swallows the pill of a story like, "shorted wiring on a 747 caused it to EXPLODE!!!," without verbage like "Circuit Breaker" or "Flash Point", I am ashamed of my species.
      If you think a Boeing Electrical Engineer would design a circuit in an aircraft that wasn't protected, or could pass it past other Supervising Engineers, I am disappointed.
      To say the least.
      What's the Flash Point of aviation fuel?
      Because that how hot that wiring has to get for it to go boom.
      I don't trust reports made by anyone that pays people to write them, especially a government agency tasked with delivering death.
      I use my solid, yet limited knowledge of the physical world to apply to their narrative.
      If it matches up, I agree with it.
      I wouldn't be a responsible American if I did.

  • @--INDIGO--
    @--INDIGO-- Před 2 lety +856

    This was the first time I’ve seen footage of a plane with dummies that was crashed on purpose. I would not want to be in charge of the paperwork needed to get that approved.

    • @ED2302
      @ED2302 Před 2 lety +29

      @@agatagalavotti7886 No

    • @jimsvideos7201
      @jimsvideos7201 Před 2 lety +44

      It was called the Controlled Impact Demonstration if you're curious.

    • @aerobyrdable
      @aerobyrdable Před 2 lety +66

      The crash required more than four years of preparation by NASA Ames Research Center, Langley Research Center, Dryden Flight Research Center, the FAA, and General Electric. After numerous test runs, the plane was crashed on December 1, 1984. The test went generally according to plan, and produced a spectacular fireball that required more than an hour to extinguish. (wiki)

    • @ayoutubechannel921
      @ayoutubechannel921 Před 2 lety +8

      @@agatagalavotti7886 shut up about your fishermen fetish porn

    • @andrewholdaway813
      @andrewholdaway813 Před 2 lety +6

      @@ayoutubechannel921
      It's a robot, it's not listening.

  • @realishrhino3111
    @realishrhino3111 Před 2 lety +1451

    There are so many misconceptions about air travel, no wonder some people find it terrifying.

    • @TheRibbonRed
      @TheRibbonRed Před 2 lety +104

      Not only that, but the fear of falling, claustrophobia, etc. plays big part too.

    • @christophermccoy4605
      @christophermccoy4605 Před 2 lety +23

      @@TheRibbonRed Glide ratio. Multiple engines. Jetliner don't fall in 2021. They reach aerodynamic instability, explode, or have mechanical issues. You dont know how planes work, do you?

    • @shahimagesyt
      @shahimagesyt Před 2 lety +164

      @@christophermccoy4605 I believe he was giving examples of some of the misconceptions

    • @joshuabossink
      @joshuabossink Před 2 lety +79

      @@christophermccoy4605 why being so toxic dude, get life. You could still like kinda fall, you didnt even know what his interpetation is of falling right?

    • @TheRibbonRed
      @TheRibbonRed Před 2 lety +55

      @@christophermccoy4605 "oh look at me, this guy is talking about phobias. Let me cure that with publicly known facts and call him an idiot!"
      Do try curing phobias of air travel with that. Psychologists have never succeeded [with that alone], but _clearly_ you think you're better, don't you?

  • @AlbertoGamezYT
    @AlbertoGamezYT Před 2 lety +2390

    AC7 fans: *sweats intensely*

    • @TheMemeDynamics
      @TheMemeDynamics Před 2 lety +191

      Random AWACS: check ur HUD bro

    • @fegenein862
      @fegenein862 Před 2 lety +93

      first contact gave me ptsd

    • @jacextreme6432
      @jacextreme6432 Před 2 lety +21

      @@agatagalavotti7886 Shush bot

    • @andrewfortier7354
      @andrewfortier7354 Před 2 lety +81

      I swear that mission made most of my deaths in my first playthrough, lightning strike when I am in front of a mountain sucked

    • @_jaegerboy_
      @_jaegerboy_ Před 2 lety +48

      Bro i was about to say cuz i did that one stupid thundery mission with the F-35 like yesterday LMAO

  • @flauschig5243
    @flauschig5243 Před 2 lety +2315

    Kind of ironic how a jet nicknamed "Lightning" can't fly in thunderstorms which include lightning...

    • @sls12III
      @sls12III Před 2 lety +32

      Indeed.

    • @smokecrash2147
      @smokecrash2147 Před 2 lety +58

      I thought that the moment I saw the thumbnail

    • @justinavery8664
      @justinavery8664 Před 2 lety +91

      Haha... that is ironic. The pilots unofficially call it the Panther or Fat Amy. I always thought it looked like a swimming penguin from the side😅

    • @MyUnoriginalUsername
      @MyUnoriginalUsername Před 2 lety +17

      @@justinavery8664 the penguin part cracked me up lol

    • @ishmaelbryan5487
      @ishmaelbryan5487 Před 2 lety +5

      Because it is not true. czcams.com/video/ZtZNBkKdO5U/video.html

  • @bgezal
    @bgezal Před 2 lety +1291

    How US military planes get nicknames from their biggest weaknesses.
    This episode: F-35 Lightning.
    Next episode: F-16 Falcon and A-10 Warthog.

    • @hf117j
      @hf117j Před 2 lety +274

      Falcons go down from bird strikes and warthogs lose landing gear to animals on the ground I guess, lol

    • @sodreaded4249
      @sodreaded4249 Před 2 lety +15

      😂😂😂

    • @michaelusswisconsin6002
      @michaelusswisconsin6002 Před 2 lety +78

      A-10 is technically Thunderbolt II F-35 Lightning II

    • @hf117j
      @hf117j Před 2 lety +64

      @@michaelusswisconsin6002 Thunderbolt II? Guess it gets too loud and pilots crash it out of frustration

    • @clarietta
      @clarietta Před 2 lety +53

      can't wait for the raptor then

  • @pjduker05
    @pjduker05 Před 2 lety +133

    About 4 years ago I was flying into St. Louis when we hit a thunderstorm. I had a lonely flight back so I was very bored and spacing out the window. It was night so the only thing I could really see was a small light on the tip of the wing. As we were in a holding pattern above the air port and waiting to land, a lightning bolt struck that little light. I remember the entire cabin of the plane lit up like it was day time! Of course I was freaked out having just witnessed a lightning bolt blast out my only external light source. I spent the next half hour as the plane landed clutching the handles of my seat like I was trying to leave imprints in them. Finally as we get the plane parked the pilot gets on the radio and with a little laugh says "Well folks that was fun wasn't it! Don't worry, we get struck by lightning all the time." I really would have appreciated him telling us that earlier, like perhaps when the plane was flying through what looked like hell. 😨

    • @prumchhangsreng979
      @prumchhangsreng979 Před 2 lety +17

      He need to focus

    • @pjduker05
      @pjduker05 Před 2 lety +11

      @@prumchhangsreng979 oh I'm sure. That plane was rocking like crazy. I'm sure he was fighting it to get it to stay flat and level.

  • @ologhai8559
    @ologhai8559 Před 2 lety +128

    people in the past: "There will be flying cars in the future."
    me in the present: "Thank God, we dont have it."

    • @mikhailryzhov9419
      @mikhailryzhov9419 Před 2 lety +9

      I don’t want to end up in Wild West with no means of getting back either.

    • @jeffduncan9140
      @jeffduncan9140 Před rokem +4

      No kidding! People seem to have a hard enough time just driving on pavement .

    • @blackace7782
      @blackace7782 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@jeffduncan9140, and yet air travel is still safer than land

  • @moonasha
    @moonasha Před 2 lety +92

    I've seen a couple videos on youtube now from fighter pilots about getting hit by lightning in F-16s, and other planes. CW Lemoine's channel specifically, a pilot almost couldn't land his plane because he was so punch drunk because lightning went through his body. So the danger of lightning isn't unique to F-35. On some fighters, there's a lot of luck protecting you, because there simply isn't enough room/weight for a robust lightning protecting system

    • @automobilesarefun409
      @automobilesarefun409 Před 2 lety +2

      No such thing as luck. Lightening rods are out in place on fighter jets.

    • @ShawnHinck
      @ShawnHinck Před 2 lety +16

      If you payed attention to that video, he said that was unusual. Lighting strikes aren’t uncommon, but injuries are. It had to do with the pilot keying up the radio as lightning struck

    • @truthsRsung
      @truthsRsung Před 2 lety +1

      @@ShawnHinck ....How often does the pilot of an aircraft have to touch controls in the cockpit.
      The crap you believe?

    • @truthsRsung
      @truthsRsung Před 2 lety +1

      There isn't room because "Safety" (or the illusion of it) wasn't considered in the design of the aircraft.
      Whether you care for the term "efficiency" or "performance," enhancements have come at the cost of Safety.
      Admit the root cause.

    • @ShawnHinck
      @ShawnHinck Před 2 lety +4

      @@truthsRsung it wasn’t that he was simply “touching” the controls, it’s that the radio was physically keyed up the moment the aircraft was struck. If the crap you believe actually happened, we’d have a lot more aircraft having issues with being struck by lightning.

  • @WTH1812
    @WTH1812 Před 2 lety +28

    WWII US aircraft carriers pumped inert gas into fuel lines after fueling aircraft. Japanese carriers didn't. Made a big difference in the ship's' abilities to survive attacks.

    • @chrisscott6254
      @chrisscott6254 Před rokem +1

      True, but the Japanese still launched lot of airstrikes In - and had the Japanese carriers did something similar as the Americans, they possibly could have lessened the punch they took at Midway.

  • @Jetpusher
    @Jetpusher Před 2 lety +270

    Just to clarify some things here.
    Any damage taken to a stealth fighter and especially the F35 is taken as a CLASS A mishap, because of the functionality of the jet, it must remain mission capable at all times especially while operating overseas in japan.
    Its likely the Marine Corps treated these jets to a CLASS A mishap because of a lightning strike due to the fact that now they have to look over the whole jet and decipher if anything got extremely ruined. This is because its a brand new modern stealth fighter. I currently work with this jet when it is ship based, and have seen it operate in thunderstorms and less than preferable conditions with visibility below half a mile and rain pouring out of the sky faster than a showerhead could ever produce water past and present.
    I have SEVERE CONFIDENCE in the F35 program because ive seen it with my own eyes. Its extremely important we look after these jets so they can look after us when were in trouble.
    I can garuntee you these aircraft are ready, they are just under very close watch because its a very expensive program to keep a technological edge against opponents in (God Forbid) future conflicts.

    • @AyuwuSuperFan
      @AyuwuSuperFan Před 2 lety +42

      i see. nice to read. i always hear only good things about the f35 from pilots , active service members and miltary analysts but sadly its all drowned out by the noise that is propaganda. all the issues with the jet just come with the territory, its new technology.
      read a comment before saying if social media existed in the 80s we wouldnt have planes 😹😹😹 how true that is

    • @navyseal1689
      @navyseal1689 Před 2 lety +8

      So can the F35 operates during thunderstorm like bf2042 gameplay

    • @ThePowerLover
      @ThePowerLover Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks man.

    • @ThePowerLover
      @ThePowerLover Před 2 lety +3

      @@navyseal1689 Yes.

    • @jauho7483
      @jauho7483 Před 2 lety +21

      Yeah, this is clickbait video. 80% of the video he talks about other aircraft

  • @jasonchiu272
    @jasonchiu272 Před 2 lety +185

    Center fuel tank: *Empty*
    Fuel vapor: So anyways I started combusting

    • @NoahSpurrier
      @NoahSpurrier Před 2 lety +5

      Empty just means no usable fuel for flight. The fuel tanks are always wet with some remaining fuel. They are never completely dry.

    • @Srae17
      @Srae17 Před 2 lety +9

      Kaboom?

    • @emmanuelgeorge
      @emmanuelgeorge Před 2 lety +19

      ​@@Srae17 Yes Rico, Kaboom

    • @garrickanderson5204
      @garrickanderson5204 Před 2 lety +2

      Also he very clearly said "almost empty" and talked about the small amount of fuel left in that tank. . .

    • @videos-for-friends
      @videos-for-friends Před 2 lety +1

      @@emmanuelgeorge LEGENDARY REFERENCE

  • @jed-henrywitkowski6470
    @jed-henrywitkowski6470 Před 2 lety +18

    My dad was an aviation fuel hauler in the US Army in the early 1990s.
    A friend of mine had the same MOS more recently and told me that formula for fuel has been changed since then, to reduce the risk of unintentional ignition.

  • @Muyendisbey1815
    @Muyendisbey1815 Před 2 lety +127

    6:39 wait a minute this is not true. the real reason is a bolt, which had come loose from the slat track, had punctured the right wing fuel tank, creating a hole 2-3 centimetres in diameter. and burned out when the flowing fuel came into contact with the hot air coming out of the engine ( guys ı was wrong this is different incident)

    • @battleship5555
      @battleship5555 Před 2 lety +9

      I’m so glad someone said something. You my friend gave me a smile.

    • @sidv4615
      @sidv4615 Před 2 lety +3

      you are wrong, the flight you are referring to is air China flight 120, he is talking about a thai flight 114, a 737 that burnt while sitting on the apron.

    • @sidv4615
      @sidv4615 Před 2 lety +3

      @@battleship5555 you are wrong, the flight you are referring to is air China flight 120, he is talking about a thai flight 114, a 737 that burnt while sitting on the apron.

    • @Muyendisbey1815
      @Muyendisbey1815 Před 2 lety +3

      @@sidv4615 yep you right ı just check and that diffirent story

    • @battleship5555
      @battleship5555 Před 2 lety

      @@sidv4615 to each their own

  • @_germanikus_
    @_germanikus_ Před 2 lety +151

    So a Lightning II is more dangerous than a Lightning...

    • @notarmchairhistorian7779
      @notarmchairhistorian7779 Před 2 lety +22

      Lightning is more dangerous than Lightning II.

    • @Pouzdraken
      @Pouzdraken Před 2 lety +32

      so a lightning II strike can take out more aircraft than a lightning strike but a lightning strike can take out a lightning II
      its balanced

    • @navyseal1689
      @navyseal1689 Před 2 lety +3

      How f22 works perfectly fine but the f35 suck so bad

    • @1224chrisng
      @1224chrisng Před 2 lety +7

      can't wait for Lightning 3, Tokyo Drift then
      edit, why didn't anyone make an Electric Boogaloo joke? it's literally perfect

    • @bluefox9436
      @bluefox9436 Před 2 lety +10

      @@navyseal1689 tbf the F22 also costs more than 3 times as much as the F35 per Unit

  • @kinocorner976
    @kinocorner976 Před 2 lety +68

    Called the Lighting, can’t fly through Lightning
    Edit: Oof. Someone beat me to it. Can’t catch lighting in a bottle twice. I’ll see myself out.

    • @hf117j
      @hf117j Před 2 lety +1

      Guess lightning can strike twice in the same location

    • @PianoJester
      @PianoJester Před 2 lety

      If it was called the "Lighting", it would be a fair assumption that it couldn't fly in sunlight.

  • @PhilipLeichauer
    @PhilipLeichauer Před 2 lety +24

    Nicely presented. There's quite a bit more to aircraft-lightning interaction than that. Everything on an aircraft has to be certified to fly, which includes lightning withstand - from both the direct effects (high current, forces, and heating) and indirect effects (mainly interference on electrical systems). Having worked at one of the labs which does this, I can say it's great fun blowing up bits of planes to make sure they're safe when in use. Mainly specialized in fuel systems.

  • @muskreality
    @muskreality Před 2 lety +71

    I thought the F-35's were hit by an electromagnetic spit from a kaiju

    • @Solisium-Channel
      @Solisium-Channel Před 2 lety +5

      I want a pacific rim 3 lol tadara tadatara tada tada tada 🤣

    • @boluwatifesamuel4971
      @boluwatifesamuel4971 Před 2 lety +2

      Pacific rim😂😂❤️

    • @nicholaspatricks8870
      @nicholaspatricks8870 Před 2 lety +2

      I hope they will make a pacific rim 3, and I don’t care how everyone says the 2nd one was so bad

  • @qzit
    @qzit Před 2 lety +9

    FYI The F-35 II was a multi national build, not solely designed by the US, infact the UK designed 20% of it with some of the more technical parts

  • @captain_commenter8796
    @captain_commenter8796 Před 2 lety +118

    Plane: *Crashes after getting hit by lightning *
    Zeus who randomly shot a bolt a lightning: *Whoops*

    • @xaviersavedra711
      @xaviersavedra711 Před 2 lety +4

      Nah, he's thinking "Man, these flies are annoying."

  • @michaelsublet3283
    @michaelsublet3283 Před 2 lety +6

    So,the video is titled "Why the F-35 Can't fly in lightning " , it takes almost 12 minutes of a 17 minute video to get to it?

  • @baammm3871
    @baammm3871 Před 2 lety +48

    I love how in the ad the screen shows normal weather but the background is thunderstorming. Almost as if it doesn't do it's job of telling the weather

  • @pleasecallhacks7071
    @pleasecallhacks7071 Před 2 lety +10

    We had a 35 at my base get struck by lightning. Hit the top of the rudder completely destroying the functionality of it and probably caused $3-5m of damage.

  • @akita2438
    @akita2438 Před 2 lety +30

    Am i just dumb or was the question never answered? The OBIGGS system is combustion prevention, it was found damaged/not working as intended on one plane so it was redesigned in 2014. The Japan incident damaged the planes, but did the video ever tell us why? Something about the composites on the exterior used not providing lightning as it was expected to?

    • @ChucksSEADnDEAD
      @ChucksSEADnDEAD Před 2 lety +7

      The OBIGGS has been sort of an ordeal because after the system was redesigned, a maintenance check found that the tubing got damaged so they put the restriction back in place. The video did address it but it was easy to miss. The damage in the Japan incident was not fully explained but the implication was that because the F-35 isn't a huge metal cage like other aircraft, there was no "Faraday protection" so there was damage even though they were still good enough to land.

    • @akita2438
      @akita2438 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ChucksSEADnDEAD ah so the redesign was a fail and not having Faraday protection was an oversight?

    • @ChucksSEADnDEAD
      @ChucksSEADnDEAD Před 2 lety +4

      @@akita2438 I don't know if the redesign had a problem because it seems the issue was somewhere else, in the tubing. I'm not up to speed with the investigation and what caused the tubing to get damaged.
      There's no "oversight" per se, if you have too much exposed metal skin it stops being a stealth aircraft. The fact is that when non-stealth aircraft are pitted against stealth in exercises they get the floor wiped with them. There's just too much at stake to prioritize lighting protection when the aircraft can be repaired if hit by lighting, but there's no repair if they get split in half by a missile.

    • @gail_blue
      @gail_blue Před 2 lety +6

      Yeah, this is just click bait. I'm going to ignore the channel.

    • @jauho7483
      @jauho7483 Před 2 lety +3

      @@gail_blue Yeah. 90% of the video has nothing to do with F35

  • @Dbz1love
    @Dbz1love Před 2 lety +2

    You and Mustard and my two most favorite and most informative CZcamsrs about planes Mustard also does trains, and boats tho.

  • @nathangehman7018
    @nathangehman7018 Před 2 lety +14

    I'm glad you clarified the military fighter jet variant of the F35, as opposed to the civilian variant. They are really 2 different systems entirely, and behave totally differently from each other.

    • @92Psyco
      @92Psyco Před rokem +3

      Lol even the military variants are so different they could be considered separate species

  • @EdgyShooter
    @EdgyShooter Před 2 lety +15

    Imagine if you were already scared of flying and just saw your plane casually explode outside 😅

  • @bobgreene2892
    @bobgreene2892 Před 2 lety +13

    What is being done to prevent or attenuate lightning damage to the F35? Not only is lightning an Achilles Heel, but interceptor and strike aircraft cannot choose the weather environment.

    • @jonathanpfeffer3716
      @jonathanpfeffer3716 Před 2 lety +8

      It actually can fly through lightning just fine, and does so all the time. It just attracts it more due to its coating.

    • @taskforce0584
      @taskforce0584 Před 2 lety

      @@jonathanpfeffer3716 explain.

    • @jonathanpfeffer3716
      @jonathanpfeffer3716 Před 2 lety +5

      @@taskforce0584 New system called OBIGGS fixed danger from lightning strikes.

  • @coffeewithmilk563
    @coffeewithmilk563 Před 2 lety +10

    Hey man, you need to specify if it's a paid advertisement or just personal suggestion, channels get nuked over this rule and I don't understand it but I'm pretty positive it exists

  • @ThePcorpuz
    @ThePcorpuz Před 2 lety +35

    TO FLY, FIGHT, WIN…AIRPOWER ANYTIME, ANYWHERE! Except when there’s a lightning in a 5-mile radius

    • @youkofoxy
      @youkofoxy Před 2 lety +2

      So you can have air superiority against F35, just need a thunderstorm and any combatant aircraft capable of flying in said storm.
      Nice mil spec.

    • @boiboiboi1419
      @boiboiboi1419 Před 2 lety

      Basically any rain, stealth aircraft need to be repainted after taking mission

    • @kelvinfahrenheit1107
      @kelvinfahrenheit1107 Před 2 lety

      5-nautical*

    • @imperialpilot2164
      @imperialpilot2164 Před 2 lety +2

      Dude the F-35 can fly through thunderstorms just fine

    • @IJNAzooma
      @IJNAzooma Před rokem

      @@youkofoxy Lightning is the least of your problems in a thunderstorm, tf?

  • @electrolysisresearch8013
    @electrolysisresearch8013 Před 2 lety +19

    The F-35 specifically is designed to fly through thunder storms, getting struck by lightning is an extremely common thing for jets. And an F-35 is designed to take lightning strikes with very minimal damage. The radar absorbing material just attracts more lightning, making it more likely to be struck, but they fly through thunderstorms regularly it's no problem at all.

    • @TheLoxapac
      @TheLoxapac Před 2 lety +1

      No...
      That is not the reason...

    • @electrolysisresearch8013
      @electrolysisresearch8013 Před rokem +2

      @Rosie
      Okay so you just stop by to talk trash with absolutely no point or case whatsoever. There is no fighter jet outside the US that is even close to a match for an F-35.

    • @dakotafaillers8588
      @dakotafaillers8588 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@Rosie-ty5hulmao no examples just "weak"
      Thanks for giving me a chuckle 👍

  • @jamesmcd71
    @jamesmcd71 Před 2 lety +3

    The F35 can fly in a thunderstorms now. It couldn't use the existing system because the F35 uses its fuel as hydraulic fluid. This requires high pressure in the tanks. This was fixed the the same way Bowing did it on the all carbon fiber 787. Titanium wire .

  • @intetx
    @intetx Před 2 lety +1

    Unfortunately the newer versions of those modern commercial planes skip the conductive fibers because of cost reasons and companies state that the other measures against fuel explosions are enough. It is widely believed that this will cause problems. >.>

  • @verpauly
    @verpauly Před 2 lety +2

    I saw that Pan Am get hit and watched it come down. Just west of Elton MD. I was 17 at the time.

  • @russellwilliams3209
    @russellwilliams3209 Před 2 lety +14

    I was in the S. Pacific last year sailing to Peru and saw 3 F-35's flying low together during a thunder storm. I was approximately 40 miles from the coast when they flew over me, twice. I do not know why they would need to identify me so far from common American operational areas, but it was a treat to see them nonetheless. So, when you repeatedly stated they do not fly in thunderstorms, I can not help but chuckle.

    • @Wpns175
      @Wpns175 Před rokem +1

      You became a training opportunity. Likely trying to get close enough to use EOTS to see if anything "interesting" was happening on board.

  • @bryanrussell6679
    @bryanrussell6679 Před 2 lety +21

    I can see how a lightning strike may not be too good for the radar absorbent material covering the plane.

  • @natethegreat3194
    @natethegreat3194 Před 2 lety +6

    Why don’t they put some non flammable gas into the wing as it empties, so nitrogen or co2 would prevent the fuel from igniting until it gets into the engine

    • @rubien0389
      @rubien0389 Před 2 lety

      Weight

    • @kamikaze1827
      @kamikaze1827 Před 2 lety +1

      Wow, that's brilliant! It's almost like you watched the video

    • @natethegreat3194
      @natethegreat3194 Před 2 lety +1

      @@kamikaze1827 I only watched the first half🤦‍♂️

  • @JB-yu1vv
    @JB-yu1vv Před 2 lety +7

    2:52 grounding in an airplane lol (I know its not meant in the way we ground things in houses or sth like that)

    • @sigi9669
      @sigi9669 Před 2 lety

      That one baffled me as well.
      My first thought was that it would be something like the "ground" in cars. Which is just the car body being used as a common negative.
      Which in the case of lightning protection in aircraft doesn't make sense. As that would only interconnect all systems, ensuring that the lightning would get to them all.
      Upon a little reading it turns out that grounding in an aircraft is about interconnecting the shielding used around signal wires to avoid electromagnetic interference.
      And as such has nothing to do with lightning protection.
      Critical systems are protected by separating their electronics, not tying them together.

  • @kingkiller1451
    @kingkiller1451 Před 2 lety +40

    Moral of the story: Criminal negligence is 100% acceptable as long as you are a group making it hard to point a finger at someone or rich.

    • @andile5945
      @andile5945 Před 2 lety

      He wasn’t “told”. He’s under the impression everything is alright
      He can always say: “I wasn’t made aware”

    • @kingkiller1451
      @kingkiller1451 Před 2 lety

      @@andile5945 who wasn't told? Everyone in the industry who knew they were choosing saving money over addressing a known risk responsible for numerous crashes? Did you watch the video?

    • @Zebra.Lionfish
      @Zebra.Lionfish Před 2 lety

      Takata air bags are a prime example of this. Every investigation has been lead by government or independent bodies. In fact Ford and Mazda PETITIONED to remove some cars from the recall because it would cost too much money.
      No care in the world that all of their cars from the 90s to 2014 had frag grenades installed 30 cm away from millions of peoples faces waiting to pop just because it was cheaper to make the airbag casings thinner with cheaper explosives. It took many deaths and thousands of injuries to get governments to FORCE them to pay the $100/airbag replacement. Poor multi billion dollar companies can't afford that :( but they'll happily charge you $500 to install mats in your car.

  • @seagie382
    @seagie382 Před 2 lety +13

    4:35 a lot of people are under the impression it was shot down mistakenly by the navy and it was a coverup

  • @LiftVector
    @LiftVector Před 9 měsíci

    I love your videos dude. Found you last week and have been watching ALL YO VIDS!

  • @DJMVDPOL
    @DJMVDPOL Před rokem

    Great content. Great music. Great topic. Felt like watching ACI and NWYT glued into one episode! 💪🏼💪🏼

  • @azj_
    @azj_ Před 2 lety +51

    "Can lightning destroy an airplane?"
    Well with the power of god it can be happening

    • @rick49
      @rick49 Před 2 lety +1

      OMG I can't believe you spelled god like that. 😀

    • @DOHA104p3
      @DOHA104p3 Před 2 lety

      @@rick49 "God"

  • @ImGumbyDangit
    @ImGumbyDangit Před 2 lety +4

    Thx for the Video. Great sponsor and I would love a weather station with an ultrasonic wind sensor, but I just can't justify $300 for one.

  • @danielreyes-vd8hf
    @danielreyes-vd8hf Před 2 lety

    Hell yeah! Take some sponsors man! I love all your videos so much, they bring me a lot of entertainment and knowledge! Keep it up. I would probably even buy a shirt if you sold it!

  • @marcrakeee
    @marcrakeee Před 2 lety

    Love this type of informative videos bro good work, waiting for ur next one!!!

  • @mobiusZero2
    @mobiusZero2 Před 2 lety +10

    Sol 1 - " Sol 2, Sol 3. They've got two rear guard . The better one is mine "
    Sol 2 - " Roger that King "
    ME - " Here we go again...."
    * Two pairs Music plays *

  • @johnstobbscpa8081
    @johnstobbscpa8081 Před 2 lety +22

    At 12 minute of a total 17.... you finally get down to it. Thank you.

  • @TheOriginalFaxon
    @TheOriginalFaxon Před 10 měsíci +2

    There are some extremely important lessons in this video, the most notable of which is that corporate executives will willfully make decisions that result in the death of customers, if it means a few points short-term boost in their stock prices. Billionaires are so likely to be in this position that many make such decisions multiple times annually, knowing full well that somebody will probably die because of their decisions, but doing it anyway because they calculated that it will be cheaper than keeping that person alive. Also oxygen is the enemy of fuel tanks

  • @michaelpatosa
    @michaelpatosa Před 2 lety

    I’m learning. Thank you for this!

  • @raymondjames57
    @raymondjames57 Před 2 lety +5

    That fuel air mixture,
    It makes my motorcycle go,
    A true double edged sword that can be both beautiful and terrifying.

  • @Crunch_dGH
    @Crunch_dGH Před 2 lety +9

    Re: Radar for Weather Avoidance. What about radar beam attenuation that has been known to take down airliners due to misread weather conditions ahead?

    • @zeropoint216
      @zeropoint216 Před 2 lety

      Attenuation is a very well known occurrence and radar operators are trained to look for it. Pilots, however are not trained to the same standard and also have many other things that they have to pay attention to.

  • @billyponsonby
    @billyponsonby Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent! Very well researched and presented

  • @davepanganiban571
    @davepanganiban571 Před 2 lety +2

    Being named f35 lightning 2 really makes sense hahaha

  • @MG101
    @MG101 Před 2 lety +10

    3:07 this isn’t gonna be sponsored is it 😳
    9:02 oh crap

  • @Aupexx
    @Aupexx Před 2 lety +3

    Me who weirdly read a report on this happening last week: Ya know, this time it is what I thought.

    • @webdev217
      @webdev217 Před rokem

      Me who not so weirdly have watched NWYT videos like 5-10 times over and it's still not what I think.

  • @jemuel8889
    @jemuel8889 Před 2 lety +2

    Me: *Have'nt thought of anything*
    NotWhatYouThink Channel:
    "It's not what you think."

  • @slendermanminecraft7558

    So cool thanks I won’t worry now about lighting

  • @marcelocoelhodasilva8955
    @marcelocoelhodasilva8955 Před 2 lety +5

    To avoid the thunderstorms during the flight requires an almost impossible task but necessary to ensure the life of the crew and passengers.

    • @hf117j
      @hf117j Před 2 lety +1

      F35? Passengers? Uhhhhhhhhh

  • @TheGhostofOnyx313
    @TheGhostofOnyx313 Před 2 lety +5

    For anyone who just wants the question answered: 11:48

    • @NotWhatYouThink
      @NotWhatYouThink  Před 2 lety +2

      ... and for everyone else 0:00 😁

    • @p0xus
      @p0xus Před 2 lety +3

      @@NotWhatYouThink You spent the first 12 min. of the video going through a history of plane crashes, to essentially say: "The F-35's system needs some more work."
      If you wanted to make a video about the history of plane crashes - thats fine. But alot of your videos have terribly click-baity titles - and the ones I've watched arnt actually very well researched. Im telling CZcams to stop recommending this channel's videos.

    • @jayjay53313
      @jayjay53313 Před 2 lety +1

      @@p0xus not a bad thing though as these topics weren't covered in military aviation books. Great info

    • @p0xus
      @p0xus Před 2 lety +3

      @@jayjay53313 Well the majority of the video wasn't about military aviation is the problem. It was about civil aviation. If you looked into civil plane crashes you probably would have already known the majority of what was said here.

  • @kysputnikable
    @kysputnikable Před 2 lety +2

    Weird, technically the storm shouldn't be able to detect the F-35

  • @Gebenki
    @Gebenki Před 2 lety +1

    This is actually why SR-71s refueled just after takeoff. It's not what most people think. The real reason to top off the tanks is to remove all the oxygen from them, so the inerting system could fill the tanks with N2. The aircraft got so hot when flying supersonic it could ignite the fuel in the tanks.

  • @Booyaka9000
    @Booyaka9000 Před 2 lety +7

    This video needs to take a trip back to 2012 when this was relevant. F-35s haven't had this issue for more than 8 years now...

    • @sigi9669
      @sigi9669 Před 2 lety +3

      Yet it got banned from flying in thunderstorms in June of 2020.
      And the incident in Japan (which was unrelated to the OBIGGS system) was in July of this year, a few months ago.

    • @ashtiboy
      @ashtiboy Před 2 lety

      well but it ruins the stealth if hit once but if it gets hit a few more times sooner or later the rest of the craft will get problems if they get hit more then once in quick selection is when the real problems with the craft shows up by the way lightning likes to hit high and large metal objects like a lot more than once if its the path of least resistance! in fact it can do that so fast that in 5 seconds lighting would have hit a object like that 6-10 times at that point! even i don't think even a F-35 with just its newest anti lightning systems would be able to handle that much that quick! if that kind of rapid multi lighting strike where to happen even the F-35 OBIGGS would not be able to handle all of that without taking a bit of damage in the process and would require mandatory repair post mission if the F-35s stealth wasn't fully compromised at that point from thermal heat sencture from the point of the strikes on the planes frame did not completely give their prosion away from thermal imaging detection equipment! this bescue by the way any area directly hit by lighting can get VERY VERY VERY VERY hot witch is bad for the F-35 stealth against enemy thermal detection anyway is one more reason the F-35 should not fly in thunderstorms! this is bescue anything struck by lightning even in a small point that point would be VERY VERY VERY HOT anyway! and i mean hotter than the surface of the sun hot would be! that is like very easy for most new heat imaging military systems to spot quite far away! so even if the F-35 has fully proper scheduling against lightning strikes! it would however would still become a big easy to see target from thermal imaging for a good amount of time directly after a lightning strike from the heat at the point of the strike on the frame would nullify any way of hiding from thermal imaging detection anyway!

    • @imperialpilot2164
      @imperialpilot2164 Před 2 lety

      @@ashtiboy There's so much wrong with this

  • @nathanaelil5203
    @nathanaelil5203 Před 2 lety +5

    *there is a hole in your left wing*

  • @sallystandish7105
    @sallystandish7105 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the video and I really liked all the facts and stuff like that!

  • @Allan_aka_RocKITEman
    @Allan_aka_RocKITEman Před 8 měsíci

    I used to be an enlisted aircrewman in the US Coast Guard. On one flight in a USCG Lockheed HC-130H Hercules aircraft, we got struck by lightning.
    We checked the inside of the airplane, and as much of the outside as was visible from inside. We found no damage.
    After landing, it was discovered a small bit of the trailing edge of the left-hand aileron -- roughly 1/2 the size of an American silver dollar -- had been burned away. This did NOT affect the pilot's controllability of the aircraft during the remainder of the flight after the strike.

  • @jonathanmatthews4774
    @jonathanmatthews4774 Před 2 lety +4

    I'm seeing a lot of "Toronto" in here...
    "It's not what you think!"

  • @CuriousChan
    @CuriousChan Před 2 lety +3

    F-35: *all-weather fighter jet*
    Lightning: *let's embarrass that birb*

  • @Lindrios
    @Lindrios Před 2 lety +2

    Wow, I was completely unaware that they LITERALLY piece the plane back together during the investigation. That must take some serious work

  • @danialkarim9038
    @danialkarim9038 Před 2 lety

    Keep up with the videos! 👍👍👍

  • @manicmike7724
    @manicmike7724 Před 2 lety +3

    All modern aircraft have static wicks... If a plane gets hit by lightning the electricity travels through the plane to the static wicks, which is than dissipated back into the air. So any modern aircraft can fly through a thunder storm fairly safely.

    • @Wrighjj
      @Wrighjj Před 2 lety

      Static wicks are not an important factor in lightning protection.

  • @nicholasmarshall110
    @nicholasmarshall110 Před 2 lety +4

    06:11 The aircraft was on the APRON, not on the tarmac. No part of an airport is called the "tarmac". Tarmac is what roads are made of.

    • @SetiPrime
      @SetiPrime Před 2 lety +1

      Sounds like a skill issue on your end

  • @soupfork6357
    @soupfork6357 Před 2 lety +2

    The epilepsy kid watching this at 1:47
    *Proceeds to do a break dance*

  • @avinotion
    @avinotion Před rokem

    So informative. I like it!

  • @uncommonsimon5775
    @uncommonsimon5775 Před 2 lety +3

    No but an ICBM sure can !

  • @DaTrueBacon
    @DaTrueBacon Před 2 lety +6

    kinda ironic that it's called the f35 lightning

  • @nilsmeta641
    @nilsmeta641 Před rokem

    this is literally one of the best channels across all of youtube

  • @russellwilliams3209
    @russellwilliams3209 Před 2 lety +1

    I learned something new. I never knew the space above the fuel in the tank was called ullage. Very interesting and I will be using this phrase as much as possible. Ty!

  • @teidelmoo
    @teidelmoo Před 2 lety +3

    I really doubt that the glider that I flew was hit by lightning. I also doubt that it could be in the air when lightning stikes

    • @chrissmith7669
      @chrissmith7669 Před 2 lety

      The Report by the British Investigation into the ASK-21 lightning strike was sobering for someone who has qualified parts to Euro/FAA norms for direct strike tests. Nature packs far more of a whallop than our test facilities can simulate.

  • @APAstronaut333
    @APAstronaut333 Před 2 lety +6

    Never put grenades in a fuel tank ✅

  • @julwiezdeghorz5089
    @julwiezdeghorz5089 Před 2 lety

    Very informative. Great video! 📹👍

  • @YoBoyNeptune
    @YoBoyNeptune Před 2 lety

    Thanks to the podcast black box down I know of a few of these accidents

  • @hamentaschen
    @hamentaschen Před 2 lety +3

    "The sea was angry that day my friends, like an old man trying to send back soup in a deli."

  • @johnhunt1725
    @johnhunt1725 Před 2 lety +9

    I've never seen a videographer drag something out quite like this. GET TO THE DAMN POINT!!!!!

  • @Ravencof
    @Ravencof Před 2 lety

    Man that old school R11 took me back.

  • @wadechristian4760
    @wadechristian4760 Před rokem +1

    Well I have to say that I just don’t necessarily believe that they don’t fly during thunderstorms. I live right next to a base where there is an F 35 squadron and they fly during thunderstorms they fly during any bad weather they fly all the time.

  • @borisglevrk
    @borisglevrk Před 2 lety +4

    So Americans are actually naming their jets with what the model fears the most?
    F-15 Eagle (Birdstrike)
    F-22 Raptor (birdstrike)
    F-35 Lightning (thunderstorm)
    Maybe the next fighter will be named "bug" because how reliant it is on computers.

  • @EthanAdey
    @EthanAdey Před 2 lety +13

    So much for being called “lightning 2”
    💀

  • @gamm8939
    @gamm8939 Před 2 lety +2

    Because the US government didn't list it in the requirements. The Version going to Britain or Belgium can fly at Thunderstorms because it is EU law that it can

  • @hanswurst6712
    @hanswurst6712 Před 2 lety +2

    I love those long videos. 😍 🥰

  • @jaxondaigle1299
    @jaxondaigle1299 Před 2 lety +3

    I bet they meant instead of "F35 Lightning II" They meant "F35 nonlightning II"

  • @simpl3simon806
    @simpl3simon806 Před 2 lety +4

    The chief of the RAAF got asked this very question and he confirmed that the F35 is perfectly able to fly in storms and handle lightning strikes. This video is rubbish

  • @raiderwastaken8395
    @raiderwastaken8395 Před 7 měsíci

    F-35: I fear no man. But that thing... it scares me.

  • @jaydoherty5970
    @jaydoherty5970 Před 2 lety +1

    The fuselage is hollow , while the outer layer is electrically conductive and separated from the inner fuselage by struts covered by rubber and wrapped with copper , this separates it from the non conductive composite inner , which allows the electric current to flow around and off of the aircraft leaving the airframe and its electrical systems intact.

  • @freedomforever6718
    @freedomforever6718 Před 2 lety +3

    TWA 800 *was* shot down by a US military missile test gone bad.

    • @kalbing
      @kalbing Před 2 lety

      an MSL would and would NOT cut a planes hull that much, it would be a hole. Not the whole hull.

    • @freedomforever6718
      @freedomforever6718 Před 2 lety +2

      @@kalbing ,
      Bwahahahahahahahaha. That's the most ridiculous reply to ever be posted on CZcams.

    • @freedomforever6718
      @freedomforever6718 Před 2 lety +1

      @@kalbing ,
      Bwahahahahahahahaha. That's the most ridiculous reply to ever be posted on CZcams.

    • @kalbing
      @kalbing Před 2 lety

      @@freedomforever6718 you believe what you believe, and i do my own thing

    • @ChucksSEADnDEAD
      @ChucksSEADnDEAD Před 2 lety +2

      @@kalbing I'm not saying it was a missile but they're not made to make a "hole". They either use fragmentation, in which cube and bowtie shaped pieces of metal are shot out like an omnidirectional shotgun blast, or continuous-rod warheads. The continuous rods are interesting because they're long rods of metal welded at the tips in a an alternating zig-zag, so when the warhead explodes the rods separate but remain joined at the tips, forming a circular "concertina". When the stretched circle impacts aircraft, it slices them through.

  • @bbrenddon
    @bbrenddon Před 2 lety

    PanAm Flight 214 crashed in my hometown of Elkton in 1963. I was so surprised when you mentioned it

  • @robertschlesinger1342
    @robertschlesinger1342 Před 2 lety +1

    Very interesting, informative and worthwhile video.

  • @rsoldat4951
    @rsoldat4951 Před 2 lety +1

    Been watch you since March and I just realized I'm not subscribed yet