Ram TRX vs. Ford Raptor MPG Showdown: Which Of These Two Sucks The Gas Station DRY In Moab?
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The 2021 Ram TRX is a massively powerful super truck, but it's not exactly efficient...but just how good (or bad) is the fuel economy on a road trip to Moab? We find out by comparing it against the Ford F-150 Raptor!
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Great Sunday morning content. Great editing. TFL nails another video. :) Looking forward to the off road video. :)
What a fantastic life when the fight of the day is whether you are stuck driving a Raptor or TRX. I am a little jealous gentlemen. Lol
Hey Roman our gas isn't $4 or $5 per gallon in Ca it is a super reasonable $3.89 for 91 at my local Chevron. Smh
Just stupid what we pay here but better than some countries.
Man those gas prices seem so cheap only a year later! Thanks Joe!
At least you didn’t jump the TRX and F it
I can't believe that guy did that. Where in the hell did he get enough money to be able to do crap like that.
@@jfox71 I can believe he did it, he's clueless. The dude genuinely thought he wasn't going to do that kind of damage. He was acting like the TRX is a trophy truck that's made for big jumps. He just bit off more than he could chew and now has to save face by acting like it's no big deal.
I honestly believe that he wanted to go viral just like the OG Raptor jump vid did, except for him the damage wasn't as bad lol
@@quintili1 I saw the aftermath video. When he started beating the fender with a hammer I had to stop watching. As a guy who drives a vehicle for as long as I can doing all the preventative maintenance and not driving like a mad man that video hurt my soul.
Friends it is all about YT views, he’s making money and trying to copy Whistling diesel formats that he uses on his channel. It’s all about views ! We all watched it right 💵💸💰
the city efficiency is probaly in the single digits for the trx
JogBird Oh it is....
Who cares...lol. go buy the other 700hp truck
@@nycmaverick head to head the raptor can't keep up right? Your statement is hypothetical.
@@hemiaddiction I wouldn't own a 700 HP gas guzzler let alone a POS Dodge.
@@mr.ford-man4481 too bad it’s not a dodge...
I think it would be interesting if you had some kind of cost of ownership comparison between vehicles. Eg. Purchase price, fuel cost, insurance, repair, warranty, etc.
Not a bad idea, but new stuff that they keep a year you're talking gas and a few oil changes. I don't think they would really get enough info to give a good comparison. Given you can just look at the cost and fuel economy and guess.
@@craigquann Even a years worth of data would be interesting between these two trucks. I think the cost over a year will be very different based on the extra $17 for a tank of gas.
I think it’s really cool that you guys do this stuff together. That’s a pretty awesome father/son road trip with some nice rides
Tommy is always snarky and Roman is always wrong. 🤣
I want to know the break down of how many people can afford these trucks and don't care about the cost of gas versus people who finance these trucks, then slowly discover that they can barely afford them due to the cost they didn't take into account.
I think people *WANT* that story but from what I've seen in the Raptor community that type of thing is few and far between. I'm guessing it'll be the same with the TRX. People might get ANNOYED with having to fill up once a week but if you're driving a $75k-$100k vehicle and filling it up is hurting you financially things have gone very, very wrong. :D
I don’t finance a truck with zero down. With my Raptor as trade in and putting down another 15k I could get the TRX loan under 40k for 5 years. Now I’ve got a 500-600 dollar truck payment.
@@robertwilson1664 u kno its not actually 77k thats a speacial order truck with no options , they are like 90k with decent options without mark up and yes there will be mark ups. I know because I did price one and it was 98k and they wanted 15k more over . I am not doing it for this truck . Waiting on the raptor V8 .
@@randyjr3479 try another dealership I found one in Oklahoma that would do 3% off whatever you built online. I configured a truck with the same options as my Raptor and it came out to 83k. But you’re right getting a dealership to deliver it at that price is another story. I hate stealerships I wish we could buy directly from the manufacture.
Is not about the cost of gas, its freaking annoying to be constantly stopping to refuel lol.
$17 is worth the sound, power and the joy of driving a TRX for sure!
baleh
It work out to 5,000 dollars in fuel for every 100,000 miles you drive Over the raptor lol. Wow bang out another thousands every year if you drive a lot.
Except it's not $17 a tank because being turbo the Raptor can run on Regular but being supercharged the TRX must have Premium to avoid detonation. Figuring the price differences of regular/premium in my area it's a $13,000 difference over a 150,000 mile life of the truck and that's figuring that gas prices stay where they are and we don't ever see a rise to a national average of over $5/gal for premium like they did in the recession.
Also the trucks are not the same price if both were similarly optioned out including tax the Raptor is $19,000 cheaper than the TRX. Add the $19,000 lower price tag of the Raptor to the $13,000 lower cost to fuel it and the Raptor is $32,000 less. But that's not all because TFL's Raptor which is nearly fully optioned out was $77,000 but you can get a 2yr old Raptor with the exact same option package and 30k miles on it for $55,000 which actually including fuel savings would make the Raptor over $50,000 less than the TRX.
If you have lots of money
Bigger and more powerful engine gets you to pump station quicker🤔
Hahahah yeah keep telling yourself that. The difference wouldn’t be that great in time and the Raptor had about a 250 miles longer range so the TRX would be in the rear view after the 1st stop.
@@DobieDoxie you know why its gets you quicker? Because of that high fuel consuption. Swooosh... Trx will be at the pump 200mile earlier. Which means quicker at the pump
@@nycmaverick nah. Trx will be faster at the pump. Because Raptor will still be going while Trx will be fueling up
@@JK-ki7yv your math sucks.
@@DobieDoxie i guess you dont understand what I’m saying. Its ok.
A true enthusiast worry’s about smiles per mile not miles per gallon!😎
And for some people, they aren't mutually exclusive 😊
@@specialopsdave you mean like Miata or Prius with included joke teller?
By that logic, the Raptor driver would have a 50 mile per fill-up longer smile than the TRX... :)
@@MariuszChr lmao
Look up on youtube "40mpg Corvette"
To a true enthusiast in a baja 1000 race the smaller tank and 3.5 miles per gallon less will make a difference in the end.
The 36 gallon tank is a huge bonus in the F150 and it's a very common option. It's nice being able to drive 700 miles on one tank or be able to go on a trip and not need to worry about stopping for fuel.
I'm not sure it is common. From my research only the Crew Cab Raptor and Limited include a 36 gallon tank. Every other F150 is 23-26 gallons. 30.6 for hybrid.
@@exileut it's an option on all f150's
Sorry but this mpg would get old
Thanks for all the number crunching; I love this sorta thing. Now let’s see some off-roading comparisons too!
Do you guys ever reflect back on the early days of TFL? Now look what you’re freakin’ driving!! 👍👍
Great video guys! As similar as these two trucks are, they’re both different in many ways.
That extra 250hp has so few real world applications beyond saying 'look how fast this goes'. I'd love to drive one, but at some point it is just silly.
And that’s the point of the TRX. It’s silly, it’s needless, it has no point and that’s exactly the reason why I’d love to drive it. For sure a smaller engines makes more sense for 80% of the owners, but when you buy the TRX, you care more about smiles per gallon I guess
How does FCA achieve their CAFE requirements? I cannot think of one fuel efficient vehicle in their line up? Here in Canada, there is no CAFE equivalent.
@@mikefoehr235 FCA bought teslas carbon emissions credits which is the reason they can make these vehicles lol
@Randy James Thank you sir for the info👍🇨🇦
@@ThEUNchaRtedmAN Jesus, that is crazy. Look, Many people criticize Toyota for the Tundra...and I own one and yes it is certainly harder on fuel but not crazy thirsty BUT Toyota has many vehicles in their line up that are super thrifty as well. Nobody can take that away from Toyota.
I think I would pick the Raptor, just from a long road trip perspective. This being purely based on your video here. At least you guys aren't lunatics like a certain other CZcamsr who damaged his fully loaded out TRX doing an insane jump they were never designed for....😁😁😁
If you ride alone yes, once you overland with bunch of stuff and weight both trucks close to limits, it will be about same if not worse... Every one i know with 4 cylinder Frontiers or 6 cylinder full size trucks armed to teeth with tools for work gets same or worse millage then V8s
Great video!
For all those that love beautiful things
The drive from Denver to Grand Junction is pretty life changing
Especially if you get stuck in an avalanche. Ugh 🤦🏼♂️
@@tonyr9389 yeah thats no fun
Especially on a Sunday! Less hair by the time you get to Denver
The shot where the Ram leaves the pump and the raptor pulls up sounded like a truck left the station, and a vacuum cleaner pulled in. BTW on the way back you should trade the truck that was in the lead so the other gets the draft.
Yes and IDK that it is $17 more per tank to fill, I'd still rather have the T-Rex and is what a truck is supposed to be. Big & bold with all that V8 power and the supercharger whine is sick, yep that's what I'm talkin about and is a man's truck 💪🏼😎
@@lovethesmellofracefuelinth7374 a man doesn’t care about the power he cares about the utility little boys need to have bragging rights
@@roadrunner4847 some don't brag, just simply like for them self, there is all kinds of things out there if you willing to open for it
@@tallll70 yes but most of the people replying are living in digital wonderland
@@roadrunner4847 The TRX can tow more than the raptor, so I guess the TRX is more of a utility vehicle.
Tommy just don’t forget to unlock the trigger on the gas dispenser. It could potentially cause a spill for the next guy. Awesome video like always. It awesome to see both dad and son together 👍🏽
the mpg has turned the Trx into a T- Rachel
Don't get me wrong, I think the TRX is a wonderful and mighty truck with a impeccable V8 sound but I don't trust FCA. Excellent truck, bad brand (and bad reputation). I'll take the Raptor all day long.
For what it's worth, FCA is improving. I share the same concerns as you, but even in the past 5 years the reliability has improved somewhat. Leasing is probably the safest way to go still, but I'm less concerned now than I was.
Why would you go by internet reputation? Do you believe that Ram trucks are bad because they have Chrysler transmissions too? That's internet reputation for you
Why don't you trust FCA? The only people who don't trust FCA are dumbass keyboard warriors. The are a great company. The 6.2 hemi shares parts with the 6.4 and 5.7. Both of those are very reliable engines. This truck uses the ZF 8 speed, which is considered the best auto transmission in the world. It is used by GM, Ford, Toyota, BMW, etc. The bad reputation comes from the early 2000's. The old Dodge trucks had bulletproof motors, but probably some of the shittiest transmissions ever.
Tommy nailed the MPGs - good intuition!
Great comparison. We have had Straight line accelerating test and MPG testing and now it's 1 to 1.
Now let's 500 mile Baja style race and crown a true winner?
Never happen FCA would have already done it just like Ford did when the gen 2 released.
@@robertwilson1664
Yes I know especially since on another chanel a TRX took a good jump and sustained damage on the 1st jump the same jump the Raptor did back to back. Lol.
@@robertwilson1664 It hasn't even been out for a year. I literally guarantee that they will run it this year.
since you're already going out there, might as well make a video. But if you're in these trucks(or any truck really) mpg isn't in your mind, really ever. also, love that you're heading out there, it always lets me know what the winter conditions are like!
I like the road trip videos. I really like Moab. Beautiful town and natural beauty and so much to do there. Tommy was spot on with the mpg. Pessimistic is correct also dad. Lol. Old age is a thing we all have to deal with. Enjoying the videos so let’s have more fun!
Really looking forward to the off-road video. For me, same cost, I'd take the Raptor all day, the extra power isn't worth anything to me for what I would use the truck for, mild off road, camping, overlanding. But the range is a killer...500 per tank is a very big deal when planning a route that takes you through fairly remote parts of the country off road where you can easily be 100 miles between gas stations or worse. I'm actually thinking of converting my current F150 to the 36gal tank to end up with around 600+ range on a tank which almost means no need for a 5gal rotopax, though regardless of range, knowing you always have a backup can set your mind at ease.
Wwooooooo! Excited about the Off-Road comparison.
LOL your video showed Fruita Co that's where I get my BBQ wood! Great video!!
The need to do the rooftop tent and see how bad they can get the TRX mpg down 👍
If you buy $100k ATV you should sleep in 5 star hotel or have separate truck with Sherpas setting up your camp.
new glasses look #BOSS, cheers!
Thank you for the informative videos, I wish if you do a comparison in dollar per mile between EV and gas car 😌
Tommy you rock ..
Thank you for defending that awesome 👌
Raptor !!
Well done 👍✅
Did you do a review on the topper that’s on the raptor? It looks interesting
also run your MPG back, the slower speeds on i70 should have a boosted number returning to front range vs driving out. can't explain why, but i've seen that a few times in my old f150 and now the jeep.
Could you do a test including the off road driving? Just to see how much downsizing cares. Greetings
Thanks guys....
I'll take the Raptor for everyday use, but the TRX is cool.
Same am a ford guy
Yep, if I had the money, I’d just get both and say booyah to fanboys from both sides.
Love you guys :-)
The EPA does their MPG in a vacuum chamber! There's no way to get the milage they claim ever on any vehicle! Keep the great content coming guys!
Diesels seem to all bet the EPA numbers, but the EPA hates diesels so it makes sense.
OH SCREW IT TOMMY!!!! V8 sound for the win. Love the content keep up the great work!
If you use the same Moab station before your trip home theoretically you could get around 2 mpg better in each considering its ethanol free.
I don't like how people seem to forget that there is more to the fun of vehicles than horsepower or 4WD, like cornering stability, braking performance and weight.
Truck community is exactly known for high IQs. Sorry to be mean but it’s kind of true, doesn’t apply to everyone of course. That’s why you see so many poorly modified trucks on the road!
This is just baja truck comparison. But I agree. People tend to forget that sedan could carry family of 4 easily, instead 99% buys a SUV or van, with fundamentally bad cornering/handling.
Yeah because my grocery getter and grandma hauler needs to hit a G in neck breaking turns... Do you hit every roundabout like your on bristol speedway? Lol
@@bendino9016 why not? If nobody is on the roundabout...
@@MariuszChr where I'm from cars and sedans get rekt on crap roads and bumps. Modern cars ride on 19 and 20 inch wheels with no rubber, and have stiff ass suspension tunes. They are built for track use, not american crumbling infrastructure. That's why I got a truck in minnesota. Roads suck ass.
Do you have to refuel the ram trx with premium fuel, or is that a recommendation?
You Remind Me of my father I love the relationship between you two
Watching your videos makes me feel like I should have spent more time with my dad before he died 2 years ago. I just wasn't close to him as an adult and I'm afraid I see the same thing happening with my son
Premium is about 7,50$ per gallon here in Norway, I'm not sure that's a hell yeah. Think I'll keep my diesel Silverado for a while longer 😂I guess the price tag over here would be at least 188 000$ for the ram anyway, probably more. You guy's enjoy and keep making those videos. 😁
Good video but most people don't drive those trucks on the freeway all the time so the question is what kind of in town mpg do they get? If the Raptor gets 14 but the RAM only gets 8. Plus what's the fuel economy off roading can you spend all day in Raptor off roading without having to fill up versus having to leave to go fill up your TRX again? 😁
In my experience with my softopper, I consistently got 2-3 mpg worse in my Tacoma with the topper on. I'd be curious to know how it would affect the Raptor.
@SkunkWorks sounds about right. I got 20 on an 12 plus hour trip on the highway. Stock, MO to Houston.
136 Litre tank in the Ford, holy moly that's massive!
It would cost about 200€ to fill up in Finland :D
Liter? It’s an American truck. Use gallons please.
@@joemomma707 Some people don't use freedom units!
Yeah that’s Crazy my Ute in Australia has two tanks and only has 120L
@@junnutube boo
Did anyone else notice when he put the nozzle back after filling the raptor the first time it was locked wide open
Does the MPG improve at all if the TRX is in the air?
I had a truck with a camper shell, taking it off always bumped my highway average by 1-2 mpg, I'd say add 1 mpg to the Raptor mpg average or take if off completely? However even still the gas cost difference won't be significant, if you're driving ten thousand miles a year the TRX is going to cost around $500-600 more in gas. The impact of having a 550+ mile range vs a 342 mile range will have a significant impact on what can be done with the TRX vs. the Raptor. For example, there are already people getting rid of the GT500 in favor of the GT350 and the stated reason is the GT500 consumes so much gas they have to constantly fill it up.
Mine was opposite I take my canopy off and I lose 1-2 mpg I think the canapy made the truck more arrow dynamic.
Never seen a video about trucks with so little footage of trucks.
I'm curious which truck spent more time in front during the drive. That could skew the results one way or the other.
Does the camper help the aerodynamics / MPG?
your trx is not broke in yet, i did an oil analysis on my power wagon and at 12,000 miles i still have the break in metal bits in my oil. that was my 3rd oil change i sent off... we'll see in another 10,000 miles if the metal bits drop dramatically.
@Randy James haha!! Or that. Could be that.
Do you guys use top tier gas brands or just any gas station?
My 2003 F-150 FX4 with a canopy and work gear gets 13-14 mpg back and forth to work.
It’s worth the extra $17 a fill up just to hear that beautiful V8 roar! :)
its more than just $17.00 difference he said the trx was empty and the raptor had just over a quarter and it stated had over 200 miles left, if they would have dove the to other gas station and then filled again and added the $17 plus the additional difference at the second gas pump it would be more realistic
I had a supercharged 04 Lightning that I could run the quarter in the mid 12 sec range. Averaged 10 MPG. On the other hand I pulled a car with my TTV6 Raptor and averaged 15 MPG.
What is the gear ratio in the diffs of the TRX?
If memory serves the raptor has 4.11.
Hi Roman and Tommy, quick question why do you fill the gas tanks to the brim when manufacturers say do not fill the gas tanks right to the top and just fill till the gas lever clicks
Believe it's to help normalize results when they're mpg testing.
A given pump/tank and environmental conditions may lead to the pump shutting off inconsistently. By letting any frothing subside, and topping off, it's likely a more consistent fill.
Dave, thanks for your insight
Ontario Canada here, cheapest place for premium (91 octane) near me is $4.54/ gallon in Canadian coins. So that probably works out to closer to $3.00 US. But thats at Costco. Other stations would be closer to $3.50 US. Go to Toronto or northern Ontario and its probably closer to $4. And then there's 93 or 94 octane depending on which station that would be well over that....
Thanks for leaving the nozzle pulled Tommy!
I prefer the ford 2021 with the V6 picaus the gas prices going up
Exactly! How people fail to realize what’s coming is by ons me. Pucker up for $5+ a gallon again
Lifes short, drive what makes you happy! Might not get another chance to hear a big v8 under the hood in coming years
This is one of the reasons I bought a Ram with the HEMI over a Ecoboost. Wanted a V8 before there all gone.
Actually the raptor will have a V8 on February 3 2021
People keep saying that, yet Ford has not one.... BUT TWO V8 ENGINES coming for their F-Series, and there's no sign that Chrysler or GM will be giving up their V8s.
If that were true, then why do companies keep spending millions on the development of new V8 engines?
Keep it up
My Colorado zr 2 only got 15 mpg and you had to keep
Pushing that V6 to keep it going
That TRX is sweet but I’d still take that Raptor over it all day.
It's not about the cost of gas, it's about the range. The low speed stuff the trucks are gonna be really similar, but hopefully you'll do a day of desert running out there too and compare the offroad range of the two.
Love the TRX until you hear it idling. Hate that ticking those big hemi’s do.
Who spends upwards of $80k on a little 1500 with a big Hemi and a blower and worries about mpg which is more a product of the way you drive it.
it’s annoying to be constantly fueling a gas hog 😂
People who can do math?
At $3 / gallon and 12 combined MPG, that works out to over $37,000 for gas for 150k miles in the TRX.
So, half-again the cost of the vehicle.
The Raptor had a little bit of an aero/drag advantage with the fabric shell on the bed.
I understand the raptor tire options are 35s or 37‘s, which one is this?
Hi how are you?
I trust you and would like to ask a question. I have a deposit down for a Ram TRX limited edition ignition edition 2022 I want to ask is it a good car? I’ve never owned Ram. Would you recommend it more than the F150? Any problems you’ve seen with them or heard about?I don’t want to make a mistake it’s a big purchase it’s a limited car I’d love your feedback and recommendation. I’m in Texas.
If you can afford these trucks and then you can afford the gas. Give me that sound!!!
Did you take delivery of the very first T Rex,pretty neato,must add thousands to the resale
Harder to resist a heavy pedal on that V8 supercharged motor. My guess 8-10mpg on fun drives but damn it sounds good!
if the Ram is your daily driver. that close to $800 a month just for gas
Depending on driving habits, cost of fuel, miles driven, other variables etc, that would be insane. My F150 5.0 has a 36 gallon tank. Usually I fill it up around a 1/4 tank but lately i've been filling it at half tank. A full tank for me is about 600 miles. I go through roughly 2 tanks of fuel a month. So my average cost with my truck is probably between $100-$150 based off driving habits, how much I drive and the price of fuel. Price of fuel varies as I usually go to a gas station linked with a grocery store to take advantage of their fuel perks program. I can't image putting $800 in my gas tank monthly and not using my F150 for some sort of business or work application where the truck was a tool and a tax write off.
You must be driving much more than the average person if your spending $800.00 per month at 12.3 mpg!
Worth it.
Big Ram fan here. I’ve owned two. I’d rather have the Raptor d/t price for what you get, gas mileage, and ten years of perfecting the build. Front end diff is better on the Raptor as well.
Who told you the lie of the differential 😂😂I’ve seen so many snap over my time at Ford
Not really an apples to apples test with that soft top on the Raptor, not sure if it is helping or hurting the mileage but it would be interesting to see an A / B test to see if there is much of a difference.
Question for TFL. Does the camper shell affect MGPs? Possible video for camper shell vs tonneau cover vs normal?
There are studies all over that are done on this. Its conclusive that the best fuel economy is done without any shell or cover over the box. The trucks cab and box are designed to work together to reduce the drag coefficient, without using a box cover. In other words, adding a tonneau cover or shell to the box, makes the truck much less aerodynamic, thus reducing mileage. Also, removing or lowering the tailgate also increases drag. The cab and box work together. These new trucks and actually really aerodynamic with number barely at a .30
I've seen the tailgate thing. But not any good videos for the camper shell and tonneau cover.
hhmmm A V6 turbo vs a supercharged V8. I wonder which is going to be better? the suspense is killing me
Raptor highway mileage is 27% higher than TRX. Exactly matching the EPA difference.
Sorry for the dumb question - Why do you have to double swip for fuel? Here in Australia we just keep going until the vehicle is full.
some pumps turn off automatically at $75 or $100
@@TFLnow thank you
One suggestion, don’t overlay the map unless you’re drawing a line showing where you are.
My 4.0 Frontier averages 14 city and 18 highway.
Do the trucks require premium fuel
Id like to see a tuned raptor vs trx drag race.
Ram causing range anxiety without an electric vehicle.
New to ram huh? Lol.
@@craigquann no. I drive an Ecoboost. So I know about underwhelming fuel mileage. That’s why I like the 36 gallon tank.
Except you can't throw a rock without hitting a petrol station, and "recharging" it doesn't take dinner reservations as well (5 minutes and you're on your way). So there's nothing to be anxious about.
regular hemi ram with 33 gallon tank can easily get over 600 miles a tank
@@nothingtoseaheardammit not everyone lives in a city. Living in the northern plains you can go quite aways without a town that has a gas station.
How much weight were you carrying? If not much, maybe you should do a test with added weight to simulate real world trips with family, gear, and luggage vs empty.
If I could afford either of those trucks, gas prices would be the least of my concerns.
Is the TRX about the same mpg as the Gen 1 Raptor??
It's easy for someone who owns their own company to say $17 extra a tank is worth paying on the TRX. But if someone has to pay for that out of their own pocket they might not think so. I'm already getting bored of hearing about the TRX
Problem is, every gets carried away by the crappy FIAT marketing. Reality is starting to set in now.
smiles before miles
3:36 Same glasses...Finally I see the Father/Son resemblance
Painful price of petrol ? Here in Scotland 1 liter cost £1.15
When one clearly outperforms the other, it's going to get you at the pump.
Yeah “clearly outperforms” but has the same clearances (.3” difference in regards to ground clearance the largest number difference in ground clearance/angles) and is 0.5 seconds faster 0-60.... I wouldn’t say it’s clear to everyone only the dodge fanboys lol
@@JC71444 are you kidding? That dodge beats the absolute crap out the ford 😂😂
@@JC71444 Hush Ford fanboy. That fart can v6 doesn't have shit on an American v8.
@@gasolinediesel972 450hp and 510 torque getting 17mpg... sorry it makes the trx look like a thirsty pig
@@JC71444 702hp and 650 torque getting 14 mpg... sorry it makes the raptor look like a piece of shit