Thanks for testing the efficiency of the cars Bjorn! I really think that efficiency is very important for EVs. If you have an efficient powertrain, you need less battery to cover the same distance which in turn makes the car even more efficient. Also, it means that a smaller battery charges faster at 50kW chargers, which is important on trips to places where there aren't any HPC's.
Bjorn, really do like to watch your videos - Thx a lot for your efforts! Wrt HEPA filter: I'm not an expert, but I think it removes only small particles, but not odors. Therefore one needs something like a carbon filter.
Regarding stereo. In my Ioniq, turning OFF speed volume compensation and Radio Noise reduction are mandatory! Then the sound quality is actually OK, with some extra joy sometimes. (With the processing on you get crazy unpredicted sound reproduction regardless of source).
Will be interesting to see how the ID.5 fair. It should have the ID.OS 3.0 from the start, 170kW charging speed for the 2WD and 135kW, but with a longer flatter curve, for GTX
But still.. he goes with the authentic sound settings. If he changes to surround settings and increases the base he would love it even More. Trust me, try!
@@virtualmartijn im comparing it with my current petrolpowered car. That doesnt get anywhere near the mileage its rated for either. So I dont expect an EV to actually achieve the numbers promised anyways, just to get close enough is fine for me. It hasnt, at all, scared me away from buying an ev6, which I plan on doing in the near future 🤗
Considering that in winter (1C) the range is 30% less than in the summer, this EV6 might have better range than model Y. EV6 in summer might rich 574 km (90 km/h) and 391 km (120 km/h). On paper EV6 is a better deal than Model Y (better range, faster charging, better options). You should do a Model Y now when is cold!
EV6 has heat pump, so it is more efficient in cold time, you cannopt aproximate it to have 391, more like to be 340 -350 range max. in highway in summer/....
@@buddy1155 Unfortunately I agree, if it were a better looking car it would certainly be a no-brainer, but now it still gives me some doubts even though functionality (range, performance,...) is better with Tesla than anyone else really.
@@davidsommen1324 The range is on paper exaggerated, in reality it is better as the competition but not by much. -Performance- acceleration is good but it has not the matching handeling. The handeling is not too bad but not good enough for a car with that power. It has to be in balance, it just isn't. In would be on the bottom of my list or not on my list at all, even if it looked good.
The wiggle of the steering wheel drove me crazy when I test drove the EV6 the other day. Also, even without the tunnel, the windows just suddenly fogged up. I suspect that the vehicle has an air quality sensor and automatically switches when a smelly diesel drives in front of you.
I don't like the grey area in the head-up display... It should ideally be totally transparent so you only see the info. But maybe it can be changed in the setting.
So it seems that the hew Hyundai/Kia platform has issue with high speeds. Another French CZcams did efficiency test (all véhicule compared to a ioniq28 and numbers recalculate to be more accurate). And for both ioniq5 and ev6 the numbers are good in city, on standard road but bad on highway. Your test confirm that also. Tesla still the best on efficiency at high speed. (at least until you test lucid and probably eqs)
I believe the range should be fine as these are larger than the original Kia and Hyundia EV's Kona, E-Niro and Soul and original Ioniq, the charging makes up for it by a country mile!
we all love these individual tests you do with EVs. But can you do like an overall review as well? like they do with carwow, doug demuro etc. and add the "winter" subject to it, since the winter theme is important for us europeans!
If he did then these test will become less detailed as he spends more time on other stuff. It's better to focus on one thing and do it well. You can always watch multiple vids to gain an overall picture
Battery Max Temp is NOT the temperature of the hottest module, it probably measures some other important component in battery pack. In the app (Ioniq 5/ EV6 profile) you can see 16 module temp sensors (for 32 battery modules in EV6, and 30 modules in Ioniq 5). Temperature distribution is more even between modules, difference is smaller than between Min-Max Batt Temp.
I am not sure if anybody mentioned in comments however on Eco mode ev6 use only RWD unless you floor it then front motor kicks in. Just to take this in to consideration from testing
@@marcoshenz Yup, confirm AC was off, and from there the fogging appear. The AC will dry the air and the blower will clear the window. Give it a test Bjorn :)
Highway consumption is a huge no-go for me. I can only imagine at 130-140 km/h (which is still legal here) it would be even higher. It a shame because e-Niro was such an efficient car, I was expecting something similar.
Did you really expect similar efficiency on a much heavier and bigger car than the the E-Niro? Bigger wheels, bigger car, AWD, a LOT heavier, think again. (AND again this is a winter test not a summer test)
@@skyfox77 Eco mode disconnects front motor (except heavy sccelleration snd snow mode) turning AWD to RWD. On top of your list - in Poland all 77 kWh EV6s come with 20 inch wheels, so efficiency will drop even more. And 229 hp version is slughish as EV - drove one today. It is hardly faster than 2006 Ford 2.5T.
@@skyfox77 i expected at least the same range due to bigger battery, but seems to me that my e-Niro has better range as well. Will see once someone drives them both until they die
Yeah that is what i was waiting for. Great! The consumption is even higher than I thought, esp at 90kmh. And particularly compared to Ioniq 5. and would not have 3xpected the EV 6 to have considerably less range than Ioniq 5. but ok it was a winter day compared to Ioniq in summer. Still, why are th3y all so extremely inefficient compared to Tesla? Thanks for the great video Björn
@@danielstefanovic2604 yeah I know. it was more a half rethorical question because in the end the difference to a Model Y is so huge - and for all other SUV EVs - so that one wonders why they do not get it. Well I anyway go for the M3LR since I do not need the 3xtra space, travel a lot, so rather need sportive feeling and top range. Plus the style which I just love. But that of course is totally individual.
The temperature is an important point. My Ioniq classic consumes 15 KWh/100 km in winter and about 11 Kwh/100 km in summer. So these tests can't be compared if the situations are different. I'm shure that the EV6 is more efficient than the Ioniq 5 under same conditions.
@@stal5861 My Ioniq classic has a heat pump. But there exists an interesting test: the ID.3 with heat pump consumes more energy than an ID.3 without heat pump in winter. Nextmove made this test.
Your EV testing and reviews are the best I’ve seen by far. They’re constantly keeping me from buying an EV. There’s just no way I could live with the short range and having to wait to charge etc!
@@bjornnyland Tesla are way ahead of their competitors in a lot of aspects, but they still take longer to charge than filling up a tank of fuel and they're pretty soulles in my opinion (just personal taste).
@@Old-Bald-and-Grumpy yes but you are still dragging that extra 100kgs of the front motor so not much of a difference. Weight plays a big hit on range. Thats why the Solid state batteries will change everything. They claim to be same or higher kWh but the half of the weight.
Winter has the double whammy. The battery was effectively only 72KWhr because its temp was about 8C (1c outside) and the Cabin heating consumed over 1kW so another battery size reduction effectively. Interesting as always.
Bjorn - thank you for your test. Interestingly few hours ago I test driven EV6 GT-Line RWD 239 hp with 20 in wheels (in my country all versions with 77 kWh battery come with 20 inch wheels only). So 12 C, 20 inch, AWD 229 hp, mainly Normal mode, rather gentle on pedal mixed conditions: up to 120 km/h briefly, country roads at 85 km/h, bit of the city run and it consumed 18.2 kWh/100 km. Nice car, with generally nice interior (seats bit too short for my liking, windshield top edge too low ) - but range is too low for my liking and infrastructure (or lack of it) in my country. Pitty - it was on my shortlist, but dropped off because of highway thirst. AWD is different, but RWD response to accellerator was... well, slower than expected when overtaking in normsl mode. There was slight delay in torque delivery to the wheels. Pity. Side note - isn't the battery 77 kWh vs 72 in your spreadsheet?
After the brilliant e-Niro, this is a fail for eGMP. What did they spend 3 years of development time on and why do we need a dedicated EV platform? Improved charging speed is all we get after 3 years? This size of car wouldn't have consumed more based on the old system 3 years ago.
I agree. I drive an E Niro and none of the VAG/BMW/MB pure EVs provide any EV tech advantage except some faster charging which is meaningless to me. Both Korean E.GMP models launched so far have been too big physically for me and the fast charging is not a feature I need. The E Niro has a range of between 250 and 300 miles, way beyond my bladder, stamina and stomach tolerance AND I only need to use a public charger for about 15% of my journey miles. I am interested in trading up from the E Niro and it seems that Tesla continues to have the technical and design edge for efficiency and performance. It’s clear that with intent and engineering research more can be done eg, Lucid Air EV design is proving effort can be rewarded with improved results. Will the mainstream/legacy makers start taking EV tech requirements seriously?
Bjorn, do you have a video or a .doc where you mention every vehicle the heating/cooling system ? PTC thermistors (or whatever the system is called in EN) or heat pump because we read different articles and they say that the heat pump have less impact to autonomy ! Thanks !
Lol where did you get 30% from? My Model 3 averages 17.8 in Summer and 19 in Winter. That is barely 10% and i see no reason the Y would be any different
The reason for "high" consumption of climate control is explained @ 4:40. You can see that it doesn't use the heat pump for heating. I'm not 100% sure but I think that the heat pump is on only when A/C light is on. I have e-Niro and I think that's the logic behind it but I might be wrong. You can set A/C and HEAT buttons both on but then climate control is not on AUTO.
@@bjornnyland I will. Then the higher consumption is explained by the higher convection of a moving car as you stated in the video. How can it be confirmed when it uses heat pump and when electricity or both?
On a german channel Tesla Y was only slightly better than the EV 6 if tested under the same conditions. I know Tesla is for some people like a Cult. I think both cars a great and so its a matter of taste and they all do their job.
Björn time to come home to Thailand. Waiting for Ev6 1000 Challenge Bangkok to Chiang Mai and back Livestreams😄🌍 Safe flight home to Thailand. See you there😉🛫🛖🏝
One thing I noticed on the chart was all of the cars above the Kia where tested at a lot warmer temps.....If you look at the chart the Kia was tested at 1 celsius which is freezing temps.....You can see his breath before he gets in the car.....So if all the cars above where tested again at 1 celsius their miles would be a lot less. Because we all know the current Lithium batteries they all us do not like cold temps and they start loosing range at 50 degree's fahrenheit and below.
Something is off. Elektrowoz tested their EV6 (RWD, but it shouldn't matter much), and got 360 km at 120 km/h. Range was still above 300 km for the 140 km/h test! Why such a difference? The front motor disconnects at speed, it shouldn't be this bad.
@@bjornnyland No, I think I figured this out. You've made a mistake - EV6 has a larger, 77,4 kWh battery! You've calculated the ranges for a 72,4 kWh battery, like the one in Ioniq 5 - this is not the battery that's in the EV6 LR!
Bjorn. Love the videos. Do you mind sharing what software/app and odb 2 dongle you are using. I just got the EV6 and plan on taking a road trip using ABRP. Just want to June my reference usage numbers. Not as easy to tell compared to my Tesla Model . Thanks
@bjorn Nyland, what do you think about battery degradations after plenty high speed charges on the EV6 and Ionic5? time will tell certainly but what is your point of view?
Bjorn, you range test to under 10% all the time. I’ve got a 2019 Tesla M3 AWD long range and I’ve always heard that to reduce battery degradation it’s best to charge and normal drive within 20-80% capacity. In your experience how does driving regularly under 20% increase impact at all with this issue? Thx Peter
Hmm...I was tempted to get an EV6 awd, but the range is clearly an issue. Around 300km in +1 degree is just too bad. What can you expect from real winter temps, like -20? Great videos btw :)
Could something else than 75% km/h be a better measurement? From this chart you would expect the ionic 5 and ev6 to destroy the model y in the 1000km test
What is the phone app you are using to get more info from the car/s? Free or paid software and whats the name? Would be interested in trying it with my Kona Ev.
Quite disappointing really. Clearly a huge car, plus winter tyres and 1c make a big difference, but no better than VW group? Whatever happened to Ioniq efficiency? Obviously fast charging makes it a great long distance car, but not in UK as we have a tiny number of Ultra Rapid chargers.
@@bjornnyland Thanks for taking time to reply. Your tests really are the best by a long way. Still disappointed though, particularly range at speed, was hoping it would beat Ioniq 5 and Enyaq, even allowing for winter. Drove it and way better than the others. However, think have made a mistake in ordering, need to try and stretch budget to Model Y perhaps somehow.
Most CZcamsrs like Bjorn are materialistics. this car is betther, worser or equal to... Follower buy maybe one of the cars. We care too much of material then love, happiness, empathy,... avoid materialism while watchin youtube video like this. Who cares if Kia is better than XY, who cares if Tesla has bad car quality....
Just the most consistent tests ever since day 1, Bjorn got it right, you can compare EVs, DIN Bjorn standard.
Consumer Reports' ranking of the major automotive brands, according to their average reliability score:
Ranking Brand Score
1 Lexus 76
2 Mazda 75
3 Toyota 71
4 Infiniti 69
5 Buick 66
6 Honda 66
7 Subaru 66
8 Acura 64
9 Nissan 63
10 Mini 60
11 Hyundai 56
12 Chrysler 54
13 Porsche 52
14 Chevy 48
15 Audi 47
16 Cadillac 47
17 BMW 45
18 Ford 44
19 Kia 43
Thanks for testing the efficiency of the cars Bjorn!
I really think that efficiency is very important for EVs. If you have an efficient powertrain, you need less battery to cover the same distance which in turn makes the car even more efficient. Also, it means that a smaller battery charges faster at 50kW chargers, which is important on trips to places where there aren't any HPC's.
Welcome back, KIA-Bjorn!
You are the guy, why I have an e-Niro.
same here, also seems that my niro has more range than ev6 awd
now i'm thinking i'd still choose niro over ev6
Bjorn, really do like to watch your videos - Thx a lot for your efforts!
Wrt HEPA filter: I'm not an expert, but I think it removes only small particles, but not odors. Therefore one needs something like a carbon filter.
It moves odors as well. Trust me.
Thank you for talking about the cars music system. Many times that gets over looked.
Thanks for the review on the Audio System. Seems like the Meridian is good shieeet !
Regarding stereo. In my Ioniq, turning OFF speed volume compensation and Radio Noise reduction are mandatory! Then the sound quality is actually OK, with some extra joy sometimes. (With the processing on you get crazy unpredicted sound reproduction regardless of source).
Will be interesting to see how the ID.5 fair. It should have the ID.OS 3.0 from the start, 170kW charging speed for the 2WD and 135kW, but with a longer flatter curve, for GTX
Excited to hear that you like the sound system.
I’ve watched many EV6 reviews and you are the first to really critique the speakers.
Under perfect conditions and still waaaaay off the WLTP…
But still.. he goes with the authentic sound settings. If he changes to surround settings and increases the base he would love it even More. Trust me, try!
Really enjoy all Bjørns videos, he is a great guy
Its rated for 490 km, and you did 400 in 1 degree weather. I think thats pretty ok 🤗
It's 400 at 90kph. That's actually not that ok. The drop off at 120 is also pretty shocking compared to something like Model Y.
@@virtualmartijn im comparing it with my current petrolpowered car. That doesnt get anywhere near the mileage its rated for either. So I dont expect an EV to actually achieve the numbers promised anyways, just to get close enough is fine for me. It hasnt, at all, scared me away from buying an ev6, which I plan on doing in the near future 🤗
@@virtualmartijn wtf model y did it at 18/20 celsius, ev6 at 1 celsius. 400km awd at 1 celsius is fokin awesome.
Considering that in winter (1C) the range is 30% less than in the summer, this EV6 might have better range than model Y.
EV6 in summer might rich 574 km (90 km/h) and 391 km (120 km/h). On paper EV6 is a better deal than Model Y (better range, faster charging, better options).
You should do a Model Y now when is cold!
EV6 has heat pump, so it is more efficient in cold time, you cannopt aproximate it to have 391, more like to be 340 -350 range max. in highway in summer/....
@@megaintegratorand model Y has what? A PTC heater? Lol ofc model Y also has a heat pump 🤦🏻
Second :D
Beautiful car. Better looking than Model Y in my opinion.
That does not say a lot, the Model Y is by far the ugliest (not Chinese) EV on the market.
@@buddy1155 Unfortunately I agree, if it were a better looking car it would certainly be a no-brainer, but now it still gives me some doubts even though functionality (range, performance,...) is better with Tesla than anyone else really.
@@davidsommen1324 The range is on paper exaggerated, in reality it is better as the competition but not by much.
-Performance- acceleration is good but it has not the matching handeling. The handeling is not too bad but not good enough for a car with that power. It has to be in balance, it just isn't.
In would be on the bottom of my list or not on my list at all, even if it looked good.
Kia design=🤮
The wiggle of the steering wheel drove me crazy when I test drove the EV6 the other day.
Also, even without the tunnel, the windows just suddenly fogged up. I suspect that the vehicle has an air quality sensor and automatically switches when a smelly diesel drives in front of you.
Steering micro-adjustments on lane-assist are typical KIA, had exactly the same on the CEED fossil hybrid couple of years ago.
I don't like the grey area in the head-up display... It should ideally be totally transparent so you only see the info. But maybe it can be changed in the setting.
@5:30 you should try and activate the AC, wich drys the air. I use my AC on winter to keep the fog away.
AC was already on.
@@bjornnyland Was it on, or on Auto?
@@bjornnyland that is strange, in my car, it takes just a few minutes to defog, and if I keep it on, doesn't fog at all, even with recirculation.
I'd like that energy consumption screen in my Tesla!
So it seems that the hew Hyundai/Kia platform has issue with high speeds.
Another French CZcams did efficiency test (all véhicule compared to a ioniq28 and numbers recalculate to be more accurate). And for both ioniq5 and ev6 the numbers are good in city, on standard road but bad on highway. Your test confirm that also.
Tesla still the best on efficiency at high speed. (at least until you test lucid and probably eqs)
I believe the range should be fine as these are larger than the original Kia and Hyundia EV's Kona, E-Niro and Soul and original Ioniq, the charging makes up for it by a country mile!
we all love these individual tests you do with EVs. But can you do like an overall review as well? like they do with carwow, doug demuro etc. and add the "winter" subject to it, since the winter theme is important for us europeans!
There is a spreadsheet.
If he did then these test will become less detailed as he spends more time on other stuff. It's better to focus on one thing and do it well. You can always watch multiple vids to gain an overall picture
Battery Max Temp is NOT the temperature of the hottest module, it probably measures some other important component in battery pack. In the app (Ioniq 5/ EV6 profile) you can see 16 module temp sensors (for 32 battery modules in EV6, and 30 modules in Ioniq 5). Temperature distribution is more even between modules, difference is smaller than between Min-Max Batt Temp.
I am not sure if anybody mentioned in comments however on Eco mode ev6 use only RWD unless you floor it then front motor kicks in. Just to take this in to consideration from testing
while recircling, kia should turn on the AC at the same time to avoid fogging
I think there is an option in car settings to enable it or disable tunnel air recycle.
AC was already on.
@@bjornnyland you can see at 4:40 that AC is off, for some reason
@@marcoshenz Yup, confirm AC was off, and from there the fogging appear. The AC will dry the air and the blower will clear the window. Give it a test Bjorn :)
If you have heat pump it will fog when resirculating. You cant run hot and cold at the same time like the cars with external heat element.
This car popped up in my mirrors the other day whilst driving on the Dutch motorway. Looks stunning.
Highway consumption is a huge no-go for me. I can only imagine at 130-140 km/h (which is still legal here) it would be even higher. It a shame because e-Niro was such an efficient car, I was expecting something similar.
Did you really expect similar efficiency on a much heavier and bigger car than the the E-Niro? Bigger wheels, bigger car, AWD, a LOT heavier, think again. (AND again this is a winter test not a summer test)
@@skyfox77 Eco mode disconnects front motor (except heavy sccelleration snd snow mode) turning AWD to RWD.
On top of your list - in Poland all 77 kWh EV6s come with 20 inch wheels, so efficiency will drop even more.
And 229 hp version is slughish as EV - drove one today. It is hardly faster than 2006 Ford 2.5T.
@@skyfox77 i expected at least the same range due to bigger battery, but seems to me that my e-Niro has better range as well. Will see once someone drives them both until they die
@@pezomarko I believe AsianPetrolhead drove KIA EV6 until it died and got 530km if I remember correctly
@@novax7514 I saw that video but it was not at constant speed. I can easily get 700+ km in summer in my eNiro mostly city driving (0 highway)
Great as always.
Yeah that is what i was waiting for. Great! The consumption is even higher than I thought, esp at 90kmh. And particularly compared to Ioniq 5. and would not have 3xpected the EV 6 to have considerably less range than Ioniq 5. but ok it was a winter day compared to Ioniq in summer. Still, why are th3y all so extremely inefficient compared to Tesla? Thanks for the great video Björn
For the temperature and having winter tires it doesn’t seem too bad. Better than Mach E.
@@danielstefanovic2604 yeah I know. it was more a half rethorical question because in the end the difference to a Model Y is so huge - and for all other SUV EVs - so that one wonders why they do not get it. Well I anyway go for the M3LR since I do not need the 3xtra space, travel a lot, so rather need sportive feeling and top range. Plus the style which I just love. But that of course is totally individual.
The temperature is an important point. My Ioniq classic consumes 15 KWh/100 km in winter and about 11 Kwh/100 km in summer. So these tests can't be compared if the situations are different. I'm shure that the EV6 is more efficient than the Ioniq 5 under same conditions.
@@ev-joerg6114 Since temperature is given as a factor in the comparison, consumption can be compared. Heat pumps matter, it's part of the equation.
@@stal5861 My Ioniq classic has a heat pump. But there exists an interesting test: the ID.3 with heat pump consumes more energy than an ID.3 without heat pump in winter. Nextmove made this test.
Tack!🌹👍
Your EV testing and reviews are the best I’ve seen by far. They’re constantly keeping me from buying an EV. There’s just no way I could live with the short range and having to wait to charge etc!
Ever heard of Tesla before? Lol
Troll alert!!
@@bjornnyland Tesla are way ahead of their competitors in a lot of aspects, but they still take longer to charge than filling up a tank of fuel and they're pretty soulles in my opinion (just personal taste).
I’d stick to standard RWD LR, get the most out of it rangewise!
In Eco mode AWD uses mainly RWD and front motor disconnected. Awd kicks in when accellerating....
@@Old-Bald-and-Grumpy yes but you are still dragging that extra 100kgs of the front motor so not much of a difference. Weight plays a big hit on range. Thats why the Solid state batteries will change everything. They claim to be same or higher kWh but the half of the weight.
I'm worried about just how heavy these cars are getting. 2.2t is a whole lot of car to move down the road.
5:10. Bjorn you should enable A/C. That will dehumidify recirculated air.
AC was already on.
@@bjornnyland At 5:19 you can see it is off :p
I would really like to see a RWD test to measure the difference
eco mode uses only rear motors, only difference is weight
Kia ceed pheew. also that jiggel on steeringwheel
Winter has the double whammy. The battery was effectively only 72KWhr because its temp was about 8C (1c outside) and the Cabin heating consumed over 1kW so another battery size reduction effectively. Interesting as always.
Battery size is not reduced in winter. Wrong assumption.
There should be a auto defog option in the climate settings
20 to 40% more consumption than a model y. I was expecting more efficiency:(
Don't forget that the Model Y was tested in 18 and 20 degree weather and the Kia in 1 degree :)
Bjorn - thank you for your test. Interestingly few hours ago I test driven EV6 GT-Line RWD 239 hp with 20 in wheels (in my country all versions with 77 kWh battery come with 20 inch wheels only).
So 12 C, 20 inch, AWD 229 hp, mainly Normal mode, rather gentle on pedal mixed conditions: up to 120 km/h briefly, country roads at 85 km/h, bit of the city run and it consumed 18.2 kWh/100 km.
Nice car, with generally nice interior (seats bit too short for my liking, windshield top edge too low ) - but range is too low for my liking and infrastructure (or lack of it) in my country.
Pitty - it was on my shortlist, but dropped off because of highway thirst.
AWD is different, but RWD response to accellerator was... well, slower than expected when overtaking in normsl mode. There was slight delay in torque delivery to the wheels.
Pity.
Side note - isn't the battery 77 kWh vs 72 in your spreadsheet?
Yes, 77.4 kWh all version except 1 version with 58 kWh
Your can get 19 inch wheels as an option.
@@wojciechmuras553 Well, yes but...
Only with base (EV6) specs.
EV6+ snd GT-Line do not show 19 inch as option any more.
How's cabin noise?
After the brilliant e-Niro, this is a fail for eGMP. What did they spend 3 years of development time on and why do we need a dedicated EV platform? Improved charging speed is all we get after 3 years? This size of car wouldn't have consumed more based on the old system 3 years ago.
I agree. I drive an E Niro and none of the VAG/BMW/MB pure EVs provide any EV tech advantage except some faster charging which is meaningless to me. Both Korean E.GMP models launched so far have been too big physically for me and the fast charging is not a feature I need. The E Niro has a range of between 250 and 300 miles, way beyond my bladder, stamina and stomach tolerance AND I only need to use a public charger for about 15% of my journey miles. I am interested in trading up from the E Niro and it seems that Tesla continues to have the technical and design edge for efficiency and performance. It’s clear that with intent and engineering research more can be done eg, Lucid Air EV design is proving effort can be rewarded with improved results. Will the mainstream/legacy makers start taking EV tech requirements seriously?
New eNiro coming out next year.
Bjorn, do you have a video or a .doc where you mention every vehicle the heating/cooling system ? PTC thermistors (or whatever the system is called in EN) or heat pump because we read different articles and they say that the heat pump have less impact to autonomy ! Thanks !
Lol where did you get 30% from? My Model 3 averages 17.8 in Summer and 19 in Winter. That is barely 10% and i see no reason the Y would be any different
The reason for "high" consumption of climate control is explained @ 4:40. You can see that it doesn't use the heat pump for heating. I'm not 100% sure but I think that the heat pump is on only when A/C light is on. I have e-Niro and I think that's the logic behind it but I might be wrong. You can set A/C and HEAT buttons both on but then climate control is not on AUTO.
It does in fact use heat pump for heating. Trust me.
@@bjornnyland I will. Then the higher consumption is explained by the higher convection of a moving car as you stated in the video.
How can it be confirmed when it uses heat pump and when electricity or both?
On a german channel Tesla Y was only slightly better than the EV 6 if tested under the same conditions.
I know Tesla is for some people like a Cult. I think both cars a great and so its a matter of taste and they all do their job.
Björn time to come home to Thailand. Waiting for Ev6 1000 Challenge Bangkok to Chiang Mai and back Livestreams😄🌍
Safe flight home to Thailand. See you there😉🛫🛖🏝
Like this ev6 a lot há e a good design charge fast and have a Nice interior hope they can tweek some software to make it even better
Wow, Model Y is the only SUV that managed 300+ miles, even though it has the smallest battery pack!
One thing I noticed on the chart was all of the cars above the Kia where tested at a lot warmer temps.....If you look at the chart the Kia was tested at 1 celsius which is freezing temps.....You can see his breath before he gets in the car.....So if all the cars above where tested again at 1 celsius their miles would be a lot less.
Because we all know the current Lithium batteries they all us do not like cold temps and they start loosing range at 50 degree's fahrenheit and below.
At 5:19 it shows the A/C is turned off (look at the button), probably why it fogs up in the tunnel?
It looks like your AC is off, even in cold weather it should be able to run and remove moisture in your car.
AC was on.
I prefer the JBL sound system in the e-Niro
If one compares the MEB cars to the E-GMP cars, the E-GMPs seem far superior due to the 800 volt system!
Something is off. Elektrowoz tested their EV6 (RWD, but it shouldn't matter much), and got 360 km at 120 km/h. Range was still above 300 km for the 140 km/h test! Why such a difference? The front motor disconnects at speed, it shouldn't be this bad.
Weather.
@@bjornnyland Ouch. The heatpump must be awful here.
@@bjornnyland No, I think I figured this out. You've made a mistake - EV6 has a larger, 77,4 kWh battery! You've calculated the ranges for a 72,4 kWh battery, like the one in Ioniq 5 - this is not the battery that's in the EV6 LR!
Comfort wise, how do the bucket seats compare with the regular EV6(FYI - Never owned bucket seats before)
A race betwen EMP and GMP should be interesting
Q4 40 sportback vs EV6 RWD GT line maybe...
Bjorn. Love the videos. Do you mind sharing what software/app and odb 2 dongle you are using. I just got the EV6 and plan on taking a road trip using ABRP. Just want to June my reference usage numbers. Not as easy to tell compared to my Tesla Model .
Thanks
@bjorn Nyland, what do you think about battery degradations after plenty high speed charges on the EV6 and Ionic5? time will tell certainly but what is your point of view?
Bjorn, you range test to under 10% all the time. I’ve got a 2019 Tesla M3 AWD long range and I’ve always heard that to reduce battery degradation it’s best to charge and normal drive within 20-80% capacity. In your experience how does driving regularly under 20% increase impact at all with this issue? Thx Peter
Hey bro , I see you have driven Kia ev6 , Volvo c40 and Tesla y .. which one you rate higher for comfortable riding and enjoyable?
Thanks in advance..
Hmm...I was tempted to get an EV6 awd, but the range is clearly an issue. Around 300km in +1 degree is just too bad. What can you expect from real winter temps, like -20? Great videos btw :)
put AC on when going in the tunnel, then the window does not steam up.
what's the name of the app you use? Thank you
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Could something else than 75% km/h be a better measurement? From this chart you would expect the ionic 5 and ev6 to destroy the model y in the 1000km test
Model Y is the king when it comes to range
@@abraxastulammo9940 comparing cars in the same segment;
@@abraxastulammo9940 Not according to this test, at 120 kmh Model Y had 359 km while Mach E only 263 km
Bjorn pls. could you post tyre pressure and indoor temperature in car? THX.
A great result in winter conditions. It Tesla 3LR fared worse.
wat smartphone app did u use to monitor battery of KIA EV6 GT ? thx
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when will u test Aptera 1000miles triple challenge ?(non stop ..BYO water bottles + SNICKER bars)
Hei. How much money you spend for charging the 1000 km challenge.
Bjorn, what would you choose between Mustang Mach E LR AWD and Kia EV6 LR AWD?
Thanks.
Kiabjørn would choose EV6.
Fant du ut på den lange turen med Ev6 hvordan du varmet batteriet før lading?
It's fogging up because you don't have a/c on.
AC was of course on.
@@bjornnyland 4:42 led light above AC is not lit.
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This HUD reflection looks really weird. Is this common on HUDs ?
Does this model have a heat pump?
Yes
Nice video. Can you please do more videos in the Opel Mokka e?
No
@@bjornnyland hahahahahahahah
The sistem sound is the Premium Meridian ASD ?
Looking forward to summer. Wintertires …Airdensity…and then cards are diffrent. Untill then Teslaowners can feel superior.
What is the phone app you are using to get more info from the car/s? Free or paid software and whats the name?
Would be interested in trying it with my Kona Ev.
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Nice
why does 4.8kWh increase in total capacity result in only 1.8kWh usable capacity increase?
Is this with the 20" or 19" wheels?
I hope the RWD is a little bit more efficient.
I posted above - seems like it is not.
BTW AWD in eco mode seems to be using rwd only.
In eco - it’s mainly in RWD only until slip is detected or power required
What a shame. Had hoped for better efficiency. Guess i stick to my Ampera e a few years longer
Hva heter App’n du bruker for å måle lading osv?
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Неплохо для такой температуры
The OBD app you use ?
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"Ladestau", a new word in the modern times :)
Not sure if the recirc would cut in our tunnels here in Aus. Their super smoggy
Quite disappointing really. Clearly a huge car, plus winter tyres and 1c make a big difference, but no better than VW group? Whatever happened to Ioniq efficiency? Obviously fast charging makes it a great long distance car, but not in UK as we have a tiny number of Ultra Rapid chargers.
MEB cars (ID4, Enyaq etc) were done in summer at higher temperatures. Remember that.
@@bjornnyland Thanks for taking time to reply. Your tests really are the best by a long way. Still disappointed though, particularly range at speed, was hoping it would beat Ioniq 5 and Enyaq, even allowing for winter. Drove it and way better than the others. However, think have made a mistake in ordering, need to try and stretch budget to Model Y perhaps somehow.
How is wifie doing?
Great
Prefer this to the ioniq 5
Shame the range is a bit rubbish. Lovely looking car though.
Lol winter test almost like sr+ model 3
170miles from 77.4kwh battery? Something is not right.
Brace yourself. Winter is coming.
also 77 is far from 72... unlike Niro where 64 is 64
Sub 300km at 120km/h is a joke.
Winter. Check out other cars during winter and you will see that 300 km at 120 km/h is common.
@@bjornnyland plz test MY in winter if you can
Most CZcamsrs like Bjorn are materialistics. this car is betther, worser or equal to... Follower buy maybe one of the cars. We care too much of material then love, happiness, empathy,... avoid materialism while watchin youtube video like this. Who cares if Kia is better than XY, who cares if Tesla has bad car quality....
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