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  • čas přidán 9. 01. 2019
  • Baseball games are already long, so why not just take all the time needed to sort out a rule when there's one-out left in a blowout victory? That's exactly what the umpire did when Pat Venditte, an ambidextrous pitcher, faced off against a switch-hitter, and no one knew what to do. The result was a 6-minute standoff as each player attempted to get the upper hand (pun intended). This led the MLB to immediately amend their rulebook, guaranteeing to keep play moving the next time this comes up. And as a result, baseball is the quickest sport in the world.
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  • @mattsnyder4754
    @mattsnyder4754 Před 5 lety +7179

    I personally hate this rule. I think the hitter should be forced to declare first.
    The one-in-a-million ambidextrous pitcher should have an advantage over the one-in-50 switch hitter.

    • @adameves5970
      @adameves5970 Před 5 lety +237

      Good thing no one asked you. The most logical solution was to have the pitcher decide first. And all this could have happened without you crying.

    • @mattabrams3841
      @mattabrams3841 Před 5 lety +2307

      Adam Eves who hurt you

    • @RagnarokMic
      @RagnarokMic Před 5 lety +825

      The most logical solution would be flip a coin so each have an equal chance of going first. Makes no sense to give one position the permanent advantage.

    • @DevinPlaysitAll
      @DevinPlaysitAll Před 5 lety +1299

      @@RagnarokMic The most logical solution would be to light the field on fire and have everyone play in mech suits.

    • @JD-mw4rl
      @JD-mw4rl Před 5 lety +262

      I agree. Pitchers typically don't step on the rubber until the batter is already in the box.

  • @CUMBICA1970
    @CUMBICA1970 Před 5 lety +2583

    If he were a starter he could throw like 70 pitches with one hand and then switch to the other and voila go like 140 pitches without damaging his elbows. Well, at least in theory.

    • @MCreedon34
      @MCreedon34 Před 4 lety +167

      I would love to see this tested some way. Cuz I wonder how the control and stuff would go with fatigue but ya it be other arm but same rest of body

    • @RJN9008
      @RJN9008 Před 4 lety +85

      CUMBICA1970 Or pitch on consecutive days as if he were two parts of the rotation. It’s the only conceivable way I can think of for a starting pitcher to break cy young’s wins record.

    • @AllAmericanGuyExpert
      @AllAmericanGuyExpert Před 4 lety +14

      Bad theory according to Nolan Ryan. He just pitched through and ignored pitch counts... A modern concept... And believed that resting an arm was a fallacy. This concept is not available for anyone in modern times, as the sports medicine complex disagrees with old pitchers and Ryan.

    • @Dejusticed
      @Dejusticed Před 4 lety +19

      ​@@AllAmericanGuyExpert Yet the older pitchers lasted longer, got hurt less, threw back to back games. It is almost as if science is never settled and is constantly changing.

    • @adamrodriguez4240
      @adamrodriguez4240 Před 4 lety +2

      I remember pat having 4 or 5 pitches he could throw with each hand and I might be wrong but I believe he was a righty so the left hand velocity wasn't as good as his natural hand. So essentially a manager could stack a lineup that wouldn't favor him being a predominantly one handed pitcher. Like if he only had to throw lefty for his start I don't think it would favor him well. Probably why he's only appeared in the bigs a handful of times. But I think every team should be looking at this guy in maybe a setup position. And with the three batter minimum rule that was supposed to happen this year I think he's gold

  • @miketaylor9544
    @miketaylor9544 Před 5 lety +429

    They both should have to tell the umpire in secret and whatever they tell him, is what they have to use

  • @naterk9460
    @naterk9460 Před 4 lety +177

    "Okay boys, we need to come up with a rule here."
    "Which one will make it a higher-scoring game?"
    "That would happen if we gave the advantage to the batter."
    "Okay, we'll give the advantage to the batter then."

    • @jdotoz
      @jdotoz Před 2 lety +3

      I mean, in a game where only failing two thirds of the time is a sign of greatness, it seems like that might be the best call.

  • @handasakravit12
    @handasakravit12 Před 5 lety +4157

    Pat venditte wasn't born ambidextrous. At a young age his dad trained him to do everyday actions with both hands. Already at a young age he would practice pitching with both hands for many hours. As he grew older he continued to pitch and play baseball. This eventually led to him getting drafted by the Yankees in 2008. He is still playing professional baseball as he played for the Los Angeles Dodgers as recently as 2018. Hope this helped with a little history on pat.

    • @jordanambrose307
      @jordanambrose307 Před 5 lety +69

      He also just signed with the Giants

    • @NotHPotter
      @NotHPotter Před 5 lety +189

      I was skeptical at Will's whole "you can train to be ambidextrous" when he retreated to "start really young", but to hear that's what his dad actually did is both funny and a little disturbing. It reminds me of the guy who taught his kid to speak Klingon. I mean, it worked out for the pitcher, but it's an odd way to raise a kid.

    • @caramelphd6734
      @caramelphd6734 Před 5 lety +95

      @@NotHPotter Lots of athletes are actually trained like that; one example being the starting QB for Alabama, whose dad trained him to throw lefty at a young age. Most switch hitters are just guys who trained since childhood do so and I knew guys in highschool who were natural right handers (writing hand) and threw with their left.

    • @NotHPotter
      @NotHPotter Před 5 lety +25

      @@caramelphd6734 I mean I get it. I'm right dominant but had to learn to shoot left-handed about 4 weeks into basic training (that was fun). I suppose on reflection it doesn't really surprise me that there are plenty of dads who go to pretty extreme lengths to vicariously relive the glory days through their kids. I've just managed to avoid it enough to still think it's sort of an odd thing to put on a kid.

    • @armadillolover99
      @armadillolover99 Před 5 lety +18

      Bercilak What about Hideki Matsui, the guy was a natural righty but started exclusively hitting left handed because the other kids (including his own brother) were embarrassed from how good he was.

  • @billydu9934
    @billydu9934 Před 5 lety +5162

    Pat Venditte is the greatest amphibious pitcher of all-time.

    • @djj250
      @djj250 Před 5 lety +45

      🤣🤣

    • @CptJumper
      @CptJumper Před 5 lety +23

      Amphibious PMSL

    • @ramirorybczuk9100
      @ramirorybczuk9100 Před 5 lety +161

      No, because he's a reptile

    • @Poopbeast420
      @Poopbeast420 Před 5 lety +4

      Where did you get that pic of Sonny? Lmao he looks shook

    • @bigredactionsportsstuff1245
      @bigredactionsportsstuff1245 Před 5 lety +88

      He was actually criticized after college for not pursuing a professional swimming career, he ended up choosing baseball because his heart was in it.

  • @deezynar
    @deezynar Před 5 lety +1696

    The rule killed Venditte's advantage.

    • @spackle9999
      @spackle9999 Před 5 lety +197

      Only for switch hitters, which is fine.

    • @JMcMillen
      @JMcMillen Před 5 lety +89

      @@spackle9999 Exactly. He can switch arms between batters, but must declare which arm he is going to throw with before starting his first pitch.

    • @Burt1038
      @Burt1038 Před 5 lety +97

      @@spackle9999 plus most switch hitters are better on one side than the other so that can help him decide.

    • @mudkipman1
      @mudkipman1 Před 5 lety +23

      For example Ozzie Albie's is a switch hitter, but he blows on his left side compared to his elite right side

    • @wardaddy9910
      @wardaddy9910 Před 4 lety +11

      Technically he would just have to know what side the hitter is better at hitting from and force him to the other side of the plate. It would be better than what he was doing anyway. He wanted to pitch right handed to a right handed hitter or left handed to a left handed hitter not taking into consideration which side of the plate the player hits better from. A switch hitter could have a better average against lefties batting from the left side or righties from the right side, you would have to take all that into consideration when choosing what hand to pitch with.
      Also, these dudes clearly know very little about baseball, if you are pitching from the windup then the hand that you are throwing with dictates which foot you keep on the rubber and which foot you step back with.

  • @BadgerOff32
    @BadgerOff32 Před 4 lety +110

    This story kind of reminds me of when something similar happened in the world of Snooker, only it didn't lead to a rule change because of one badass reason.
    It involved Ronnie O'Sullivan, who is arguably the most naturally gifted snooker player in the world. He's also ambidextrous. That is a massive advantage in a game like snooker which is all about finding the best angles on the table. O'Sullivan is also a maverick though, and often gets bored of the sport, sometimes DURING matches! He generally only loses when he can't be bothered to play well that day.
    He once got in to trouble with the sports governing body for 'flexing' on his opponent when he got bored during a match he was easily winning, so decided to play the rest of the match left-handed (and still destroyed his opponent).
    The notoriously stuffy governing body took exception to his behaviour and said he'd been "disrespectful" towards his opponent. O'Sullivan responded with "it's disrespectful that I'm better at this game with my weak hand than he is with his strongest?", and then proceded to challenge them to put forward their best player, and he would beat him using only his weak hand. The governing body agreed and put forward their current (at the time) World Number 1 (and World Champion).........
    Ronnie destroyed him.
    With his weak hand.
    At that point the governing body couldn't do much more than say "umm, fair enough. carry on, then......you obviously are just *that* good!"

    • @Jordan-zk2wd
      @Jordan-zk2wd Před 2 lety +10

      I am saving your comment as a note on my phone. I don't watch sports but I watch this show cause I love the narrative aspect, and that is such a good story. Also, I found this on his wikipedia page:
      *In 2021, O'Sullivan claimed on a podcast interview that most snooker players had wasted their lives. He called snooker a "bad sport" that can cause "a lot of damage," suggesting that the antisocial nature of solitary practice in a darkened environment can stunt players' personal development. He stated that he would not support his own children if they chose to become snooker players, and said that if he could live his sporting career over again, he would pursue golf or Formula One instead.*

    • @worldcomicsreview354
      @worldcomicsreview354 Před rokem +1

      Look up a video called something like "Snooker has the most adorable controversies" from Fact Fiend. The "offensive" things he's done in his career are hilarious. Did you know he once lightly tapped the cue on the edge of the table?

    • @theotherjared9824
      @theotherjared9824 Před rokem +2

      He also admitted that being a guest at an American pool tournament was the only time he felt free while playing. In a sport where lightly tapping the table in frustration got him in trouble, he snapped the cue over his leg in America. At first he was really nervous, but was then told what he did was great for ratings and to do it more. He gradually played more and more American circuits since then.

  • @bennypanella9189
    @bennypanella9189 Před 5 lety +3285

    Beef History: Switch Hitters vs Switch Pitchers

    • @joerandom
      @joerandom Před 5 lety +6

      Benny Panella 😂😂😂

    • @braxtonholtcamp1979
      @braxtonholtcamp1979 Před 5 lety +4

      I was your thousandth like

    • @vladthecon
      @vladthecon Před 5 lety +4

      and thus blurnsball league was formed.

    • @jabrown
      @jabrown Před 5 lety +4

      Epic Rap Battles of Baseball History

    • @DieNetaDie
      @DieNetaDie Před 4 lety +1

      I clicked like and it changed from 1.5K to 1.6K. :)

  • @reidlapekas6442
    @reidlapekas6442 Před 5 lety +1006

    Yall should know about Venditte! He also practiced for a long time and had to work at his ambidexterity.

    • @velvet_turtle7918
      @velvet_turtle7918 Před 5 lety +14

      you mean like any other athlete training any skill whatsoever

    • @velvet_turtle7918
      @velvet_turtle7918 Před 5 lety +5

      @Samir Malla you think that's how sports work?? they're putting in the same amount of hours. in truth, the switch pitcher has more effective training sessions because fatique won't stop him. don't act like it's not a blessing more so than a curse...

    • @nucksfordacup
      @nucksfordacup Před 5 lety +36

      Yeah, he said "Born ambidextrous" and he makes it seem like he was born being able to pitch with two hands. NO. Anyone can learn to pitch with both hands, it takes extreme discipline and skill to learn it though, and be at that level. Give him credit, don't say he was born that way as if it's lottery who grows up being able to use both hands effectively.

    • @L._.A-06
      @L._.A-06 Před 4 lety +4

      Reds_Turtle fatigue will stop him cus a pitch requires your full body so his arm might be fine but his body isn’t

    • @lepidoptery
      @lepidoptery Před 4 lety +11

      @@nucksfordacup the lottery he "won" was his dad who decided it would be advantageous for him to train this way from a young child. And to actually follow through on that to a professional pitching career, too. Like, your dad could make you do it but what if you wound up not actually liking baseball....

  • @olaalcantara
    @olaalcantara Před 5 lety +247

    Inigo: "I am not lef'-handed"; Wesley: "I am not left-handed, either."

  • @lexus14blacklist
    @lexus14blacklist Před 4 lety +28

    I love how venditte immediately sees the problem.

  • @toddbiesel4288
    @toddbiesel4288 Před 5 lety +594

    Rob Manfred: "I have the perfect solution."
    *Umpires hold ten-foot tall curtain between batter and pitcher prior to plate appearance.*

    • @obi-wankenobi4151
      @obi-wankenobi4151 Před 5 lety

      Lol

    • @Compucles
      @Compucles Před 5 lety +13

      Nah, Manfred would force him to pitch with the same hand for at least three consecutive batters as a means of improving pace of place.

    • @bmg50cal80
      @bmg50cal80 Před 4 lety +1

      @@Compucles r/whoosh

    • @myfbusters
      @myfbusters Před 4 lety +1

      I love this actually

    • @insertnamehere8096
      @insertnamehere8096 Před 4 lety +1

      Na... just blind fold the pitcher and batter so neither can tell what hand the other is pitching or batting with.

  • @burningphoneix
    @burningphoneix Před 5 lety +401

    Pat isn't a naturally ambidextrous guy! His father made him pitch with his left hand to develop this advantage.

    • @Stewieboy1995
      @Stewieboy1995 Před 4 lety

      burningphoneix yeah his dad taught him how to throw with both hands at a young age. These guys are wrong

    • @reubenpapang5803
      @reubenpapang5803 Před 4 lety

      He'd be major league if he'd focussed on one hand

    • @fisheatsyourhead
      @fisheatsyourhead Před 3 lety +6

      true ambidexterity doesn't really exist every ambidextrous person still has a dominant side but are also good with their off hand normally thanks to training while young with their weak side more than their strong side

    • @bruce4139
      @bruce4139 Před 2 lety

      But that happened because he broke his arm didnt he?

    • @bruce4139
      @bruce4139 Před 2 lety

      @@fisheatsyourhead no ambidextrous is just really rare, people who say they're ambidextrous really arent

  • @sylvernale
    @sylvernale Před 3 lety +188

    Sports organizations should hire Magic The Gathering players - they'd find all these loopholes and exploits in an afternoon

    • @erenjager4698
      @erenjager4698 Před 3 lety +7

      Damn. U right bro we made oko broko in like a day

    • @SimpleVisionVideos
      @SimpleVisionVideos Před 3 lety +5

      I'm to pass priority to the batter to choose which box to stand in, then respond to his choice by changing hands

  • @LordJudgement1818
    @LordJudgement1818 Před 5 lety +5

    I had the luck and pleasure of seeing Pat Venditte pitch in college. He went to the college in my home town and it was quite the show. The time i saw him pitch he was lights out shutting down guys. hitters didnt know what to do with his gift. it was awesome. Its one of the few in person sports happenings il always remember.

  • @doktarr
    @doktarr Před 5 lety +679

    I hate this ruling. The rule should just be that the batter has to pick a batter's box and indicate readiness.

    • @coltontindle
      @coltontindle Před 5 lety +129

      I have to agree with this. Switch pitching at the professional level is so rare, I feel that a pitcher like Venditte should gain the advantage that his unique skill allows.

    • @LordBhorak
      @LordBhorak Před 5 lety +40

      Or... In the rare case this happens, the away team picks first and the home team gets the advantage. I think that the stadium fans would appreciate that the most.

    • @mrmacross
      @mrmacross Před 5 lety +16

      @@coltontindle But look at it this way: pitchers already have so many advantages. Why give them another one to help neutralize switch hitters?
      Obviously, one side has to concede or else you get two stubborn athletes trying to get a leg up on the other guy. Regardless of which hand the pitcher gets to use, and which side the batter hits, the pitcher will have the odds in his favor.

    • @coltontindle
      @coltontindle Před 5 lety +10

      @@mrmacross That's a fair point. I guess I'd just really enjoy watching Pat Venditte succeed, or even another switch-pitcher should they come along. It reminds me of Julio Franco hitting a homer at almost 49 years old, or Jim Abbott pitching a no-hitter without a right hand. Can't forget what Shohei Ohtani was able to do this past year, either. Unique players make the game a lot of fun to watch!

    • @adameves5970
      @adameves5970 Před 5 lety +9

      This guy already gets the advantage against EVERY non-switch hitter. The rule makes the most sense the way it was written. Quit whining, you choir boy.

  • @alexhall7412
    @alexhall7412 Před 5 lety +51

    So actually Pat Venditte wasn’t born ambidextrous. His dad actually trained his son to throw with both hands at an early age. The story of how his glove was made is also fascinating. He might be as interesting a baseball player as Adam Dunn

  • @howardbaxter2514
    @howardbaxter2514 Před 4 lety +12

    The fact that it took over a 100 years for there to be a situation for this rule to be put in place astounds me. Honestly, it shows how unpredictable baseball can be, and how every game is unique.
    Also, there are still events in baseball that will happen but haven't happened yet (e.g. Home Run Cycle in the majors or a Natural Home Run Cycle).

  • @Ramon8Guerrero
    @Ramon8Guerrero Před 3 lety +4

    When you were speaking on the neutral stance for a switch pitcher, it reminded me of the kicker for the USA rugby 7’s team. When he kicks the ball to restart the game he has a huge advantage because he can kick left or right footed. He stands square facing the opposition so they have no idea where he’s going to kick

  • @ZackN85
    @ZackN85 Před 5 lety +624

    The craziest thing about this is that even after a century and half before writing a rule for this, they still managed to get it exactly wrong. The way they wrote this rule is massively-advantageous to the (comparatively-common-place) switch hitter at the expense of the (maybe once a generation phenomenon) switch pitcher. Personally, I think any pitcher who can throw with either hand should be allowed to throw each pitch of the at-bat with whichever hand they want, provided they set properly/avoid balking/make it clear with which hand any given pitch will be thrown. It's such a unique skill that it should be rewarded with unique advantages. But at a minimum, it should be the batter who first has to demonstrate their intentions about whether they'll be hitting right- or left-handed. This rule so thoroughly neutralizes an ambidextrous pitcher's potential advantage against switch hitters, that it seems likely to actively discourage pitchers considering it from putting the years and years of work that would be necessary to develop the skill.
    There's at least one switch hitter in the majority of MLB lineups. On some nights, there might be two or three switch hitters in a team's lineup. Just on principle, if one person has a one in 100,000 skill they developed to give themselves a potential advantage, and another person has a 1 in 10 skill they developed to give themselves a potential advantage, deference should go to the guy with the less commonplace skill.

    • @TotallyHorsed
      @TotallyHorsed Před 5 lety +7

      Why?

    • @sethh5106
      @sethh5106 Před 5 lety +29

      I get what you're saying but I disagree completely. Having a weird talent shouldn't give you special advantages that no one else gets. The rule is done exactly how it's always been done, advantage batter. If you send in a reliever, the opposing manager has the opportunity to select a pinch hitter after you select your reliever. The same should apply for an ambidextrous pitcher, regardless of how special he is

    • @damien4197
      @damien4197 Před 5 lety +4

      You're comparing putting in a completely different person (MOVEMENT on the pitcher's behalf) to someone switching hands? I mean... before this did the pitcher even need to wear a glove to indicate? (could they give up catching potential to conceal intended pitch even if the batter couldn't switch hit? Because, if so, in "solving" this in the manner given, they didn't then just reduce the benefit of a particular training regime, or natural talent for the given circumstance... but also a totally unrelated one)... the most logical rule is pick your players? ok. Pick your position? ok. Pitch.

    • @sethh5106
      @sethh5106 Před 5 lety +3

      @@damien4197 I don't see what you're getting at. A non-switch pitcher has to deliver with the same hand on every pitch. So it takes away nothing to have him have his glove on his non pitching hand to show the umpire which hand he's pitching with. As far as the rest of it, there's only two ways this rule can go, advantage pitcher or advantage hitter. And when every other situation involves the pitcher being decided (and thus his handedness being decided) before the batter is decided (and thus which side he hits from), it's advantage hitter in every other situation. It should be no different if you're a switch pitcher

    • @michaelscott-joynt3215
      @michaelscott-joynt3215 Před 5 lety +4

      The problem with this is that it's not some kind of unique talent, it was the product of hard work. This would lead to a shift in training ambidextrous pitchers, who would have a massive advantage over other pitchers. In this crazy rare situation, just have them both declare to the umpire and make them play the at-bat how they elected.

  • @silkyz68
    @silkyz68 Před 5 lety +865

    a rule that doesn't benefit the pitcher? whaaaa?

    • @titokiefer908
      @titokiefer908 Před 5 lety +33

      well hitting a 95+ mph pitch is already the hardest thing to do in sports by far

    • @Diari
      @Diari Před 5 lety +54

      Tito Kiefer def not

    • @GJ-dv8uq
      @GJ-dv8uq Před 5 lety +14

      Tito Kiefer no chance

    • @ncdozer3103
      @ncdozer3103 Před 5 lety +8

      Tito Kiefer what are you on?

    • @whyishow
      @whyishow Před 5 lety +1

      @@titokiefer908 I thought being a QB was the hardest job in sports

  • @iamsmarterthanme
    @iamsmarterthanme Před 3 lety +4

    The Laura Dern T-Shirt is everything 😂

  • @dithivius9847
    @dithivius9847 Před 5 lety +7

    Wish the umps were mic'd up for that. That must have been one interesting conversation.

  • @eanoworro1028
    @eanoworro1028 Před 5 lety +439

    You can train to be ambidexterous

    • @strongside4565
      @strongside4565 Před 5 lety +26

      To an extent. You can never be a one side dominant person and be a Lance Berkman. That requires a gift.

    • @JonPITBZN
      @JonPITBZN Před 5 lety +17

      I was born ambidextrous and I still can't throw with both hands. (I can write with them both. One was faster and one was neater in grade school, so when they realized that I was switching, they made me pick one. Being practical, I picked the fast one. It is now a LOT faster than the other...but the other is still slightly neater.)

    • @TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsCunt
      @TheArtistFormerlyKnownAsCunt Před 5 lety +51

      @@JonPITBZN Why would they make you choose one? You had a gift and they forced you to neglect it? That's some bullshit. Our school system in a nutshell.

    • @louispatterson9859
      @louispatterson9859 Před 5 lety +5

      @@strongside4565 Pablo Sandoval is a natural lefty who now throws exclusively righty.

    • @Dangic23
      @Dangic23 Před 5 lety +2

      I was a switch pitcher in little league baseball

  • @KofieWhy
    @KofieWhy Před 5 lety +512

    WE LIKE SPORTS AND WE DON'T CARE WHO KNOWS

  • @Alan62651
    @Alan62651 Před 5 lety +9

    SF GIants just signed Pat Benditte for the 2019 season. Pablo Sandoval is also ambidextrous.

  • @Doommaster677
    @Doommaster677 Před 4 lety

    This is actually an insane rule that I've never even heard of until now. Yet another excellent video SB Nation!!!

  • @mpaulm
    @mpaulm Před 5 lety +10

    I love the end of the description.😂⚾️

  • @TheAlexwilhelm
    @TheAlexwilhelm Před 5 lety +196

    I personally think the pitcher should have final pick

    • @adameves5970
      @adameves5970 Před 5 lety +2

      And personally, you are wrong. Even before this rule was written, or a decision was made during the game, everyone knew it would make the most sense to have the pitcher pick first. Pitcher is already there on the mound. Then the batter "steps up to the plate". Pretty cool how you overlook his extra advantage against extra 3-4 batters in EVERY lineup against non switch hitters. Dumb whiny crybaby.

    • @TheAlexwilhelm
      @TheAlexwilhelm Před 5 lety +9

      nah nah the pitcher should go second if baseball were done w common sense not trying to juice up offense and keep you annoying children interested the pitcher would just hang behind mound until batter locks in a box then slip the glove on the right hand and play ball

    • @babytrap9163
      @babytrap9163 Před 5 lety +28

      Adam Eves this guy was never whining wtf you calling him a dumb whiny crybaby for

    • @rizune
      @rizune Před 5 lety +11

      @@babytrap9163 he's got some beef with somebody lol his salt is all over the comment section

    • @babytrap9163
      @babytrap9163 Před 5 lety +2

      Rizune lol what a no life

  • @HarveyMeadowlark
    @HarveyMeadowlark Před 2 lety

    Every few years I find myself researching different pitch mechanics for fun. Pros and cons of each arm slot and etc, and no matter what happens, when u start down that rabbit hole, u end up back at Pat Venditte lol. And every time I stumble upon him, I remember having watched this video when it was new.

  • @Magucci13
    @Magucci13 Před 5 lety

    The end was actually hilarious 😂

  • @beesutton1717
    @beesutton1717 Před 5 lety +33

    It's alot more specific than he states. The Pat Venditte rule (sorry if I spelt wrong) is where the pitcher has to decide BEFORE the batter even steps up to the plate, and then once the pitcher has made it clear which hand he is pitching with, the batter can choose which side he goes on to bat, and the pitcher has to stick to the hand he chose before the inning began until that batter either gets on base, or strikes out, or if he walks him. He has to start every inning like that, indicating if he's gonna switch hands, or stay before ever batter gets in the box. I find this actually puts the switch pitcher (generational talent) at a disadvantage against switch hitters especially.

    • @kerrygwebster
      @kerrygwebster Před 5 lety +1

      Why? The ambidextrous pitcher will always choose to pitch against the batters weaker side. The pitcher always has the advantage.

    • @SaltiDawg2008
      @SaltiDawg2008 Před 5 lety +1

      This is simply not correct. Either the batter or the pitcher may swap sides once more during the At-bat but must remain at that new side.
      "After one pitch is thrown, the pitcher and batter may each change positions one time per at-bat. For example, if the pitcher changes from right-handed to left-handed and the batter then changes batter's boxes, each player must remain that way for the duration of that at-bat (unless the offensive team substitutes a pinch hitter, and then each player may again "switch" one time)."

  • @evrbody
    @evrbody Před 5 lety +152

    Here's a great idea. Have two guys who hate baseball talk about baseball.

    • @SirTylerGolf
      @SirTylerGolf Před 5 lety +15

      I dont think they hate baseball, they just don't really know much more than an average person does about it

    • @acidfruitloops
      @acidfruitloops Před 5 lety +8

      "Pitcher's plate" lol

    • @NBSGreenBulbasaur
      @NBSGreenBulbasaur Před 5 lety +31

      Phil M that’s part of rule that they quoted directly

    • @jamalharrison4695
      @jamalharrison4695 Před 5 lety +13

      Phil M oh wow you are not smart

    • @cpmenninga
      @cpmenninga Před 4 lety

      Nobody could be that sarcastic about something if they didn’t love it.

  • @tvideo1189
    @tvideo1189 Před 3 lety +4

    Actually, the rule book already covered that. After the umpire declares "play ball" the batting team has exactly 5 minutes to "establish play", i.e. for the batter to get in the box. If they fail to do that, intentional delay may be declared leading up to a forfeit. Something that hasn't happened since 1995.

  • @connorb6120
    @connorb6120 Před 5 lety +6

    Bruh Pat Vindetti’s dad was my driving instructor 😂

    • @cpmenninga
      @cpmenninga Před 4 lety +2

      So now your driving in the U.K.?

  • @jonasnisse4257
    @jonasnisse4257 Před 5 lety +35

    There's a similar situation in cricket. At the beginning of the game an ambidextrous bowler is bowling the first over, the bowler has to declare their action. The batting side have sent out one left handed batsman and one right handed batsman. (Essentially left bowling is better to right batting vice versa) So the batsmen are permitted to switch ends before the ball is bowled. I don't think there is actually any solution to this in the rules, spirit of the game and all that bollocks comes into it.

    • @Loose89
      @Loose89 Před 5 lety +4

      Cricket is nothing like that, batsman are not permitted to change ends unless they’re scoring.

    • @jonasnisse4257
      @jonasnisse4257 Před 5 lety +2

      Loose89 nah mate it’s before a ball is bowled so the game hasn’t started yet. The batsmen can choose who’s on strike.

    • @alexjago51
      @alexjago51 Před 5 lety

      I think what we've largely standardised on is that as a batter if you want to switch stances you have to do it as/after the ball gets released.

    • @ThinkingSpeck
      @ThinkingSpeck Před 5 lety

      @@jonasnisse4257 In cricket, the opening batters are set before the opening bowler announces which arm and which side of the wicket - they don't then get to swap. This is relevant all the time, because every bowler can switch between over the wicket and around the wicket.

    • @mitchellcotton7346
      @mitchellcotton7346 Před 5 lety

      @MrNorthernSol I played a game in a U19's T20 tournament against Nepal. The batsman swapped his stance before the bowler bowled and the bowler pulled out. This happened 3 times consecutively.
      Finally the next ball was bowled, the batsman stood still, missed it and was bowled. The bowler was very pumped up after that wicket.

  • @soaky4
    @soaky4 Před 5 lety +13

    Fun Fact: Michael Vick is actually right-handed. He just throws the football left handed.

    • @toolmanthetim7042
      @toolmanthetim7042 Před 4 lety +1

      yea, but he kills innocent puppys with his right. ambibuserous lifetime ban.

    • @RegulaRegz732
      @RegulaRegz732 Před 3 lety +1

      @@toolmanthetim7042 cut it out

  • @christopherorr1516
    @christopherorr1516 Před 5 lety

    Ok that OHHH YEAHHH was hilarious

  • @whyknot172
    @whyknot172 Před 4 lety

    Thoroughly entertained boys. Subbed.

  • @thedavescloop
    @thedavescloop Před 5 lety +4

    "This is one of the hardest things to do in sports. Oh, and I can do it with either hand. Cause that's how much work I have put into this."

  • @iskender1327
    @iskender1327 Před 5 lety +85

    Imagine the odds of this happening

    • @krakenmetzger
      @krakenmetzger Před 5 lety +5

      The odds of it ever happening are astronomically high, just because ambidextrous people aren't all that rare, and one of them was bound to become a pitcher at some point.

    • @yellowhero5413
      @yellowhero5413 Před 4 lety +3

      Definitely not Jeffrey Epstein Yeah, but to be able to pitch at a pro level on both hands when people dream to become pro. Who's gonna practice both hands? Even this guy wouldn't have done it unless his father forced him.

  • @alexrobinson7127
    @alexrobinson7127 Před 5 lety +1

    lol i remember watching this when i was in middle school, it was hilarious haha

  • @fullpower7196
    @fullpower7196 Před 4 lety +2

    The guy on right is the type that gets stoned everytime and laughs at everything hahahargh

  • @ryansproviero
    @ryansproviero Před 5 lety +27

    Still waiting for a switch throwing QB

    • @andrewbledsoe131
      @andrewbledsoe131 Před 2 lety

      Tua tugovailoa will prolly be the closest well see in a while. He's right handed. Throws lefty because his dad

    • @ryansproviero
      @ryansproviero Před 2 lety +1

      @@andrewbledsoe131 Fins fan here ;-)
      What's funny is my father did the same to me lol

    • @kingfishcakes69
      @kingfishcakes69 Před 2 lety

      That’ll be me if I end up playing football

  • @michaelhall5429
    @michaelhall5429 Před 5 lety +20

    Sir Donald Bradman please SB. I love you and it would make me really happy.

    • @samsowden
      @samsowden Před 3 lety

      Absolutely.
      Both the 99.94 and bodyline.

  • @visionwarrior777
    @visionwarrior777 Před 4 lety +1

    Love this! Outside the box on a new level here for sure! ;)

  • @flavoredchin
    @flavoredchin Před 5 lety

    That last bit with the samurai batter had me rolling.

  • @Thundawich
    @Thundawich Před 5 lety +6

    Like most of the other rules covered in this series, I'm more interested in the consequences of the new ruling than the incident that caused the change.
    Have there been any pitchers that have been forced to pitch with their opposite hand because they walked up to the plate with the ball in the wrong hand?

  • @krakenmetzger
    @krakenmetzger Před 5 lety +4

    HEY! Rich Hill trained himself to throw with his non-dominant left hand. And he threw the world's saddest perfect game.

  • @connorhancock2096
    @connorhancock2096 Před 5 lety

    I love this series!!!

  • @Pasonia
    @Pasonia Před 5 lety

    The last two minutes was hilarious.

  • @T.J.M
    @T.J.M Před 5 lety +3

    I always wondered what would happen if this happened

  • @jeffgillson
    @jeffgillson Před 5 lety +28

    "All he did was just be born ambidextrous"
    ... yeah. He didn't work his ass off for 20+ years to reach the majors. He was just born able to switch pitch at a professional level.

  • @timothylopez8572
    @timothylopez8572 Před 3 lety

    I wanted to see this. Never new there really was one. Not only ambidextrous but throws both normal and submarine style.🤯

  • @MedroffYT
    @MedroffYT Před rokem

    This is my favorite baseball video.

  • @neotheone7923
    @neotheone7923 Před 5 lety +13

    I don't watch sports but I love this channel

  • @moegerms
    @moegerms Před 5 lety +3

    Ambidextrous training is real and not a hard skill to aquire but to say that it's just 'luck' that got Venditte into major league baseball is disrespectful even as a joke. Btw he is still RH dominant and throws hardest with his right but his release is different from his left so his RH slider works as his LH changeup.

  • @moviehypno23
    @moviehypno23 Před 4 lety +2

    Shoutout to the Laura Dern shirt. That's pretty good

  • @Taczy2023
    @Taczy2023 Před 5 lety +1

    I play basketball as a lefty, struggled with off hand layups so I practiced. Now I can easily do both left and right hand layups and advanced layups.

  • @Sin71879
    @Sin71879 Před 5 lety +20

    My daughter is right handed and from a young age I have taught her to pitch and catch with both hands. You can absolutely become both handed

  • @joeygilbert3558
    @joeygilbert3558 Před 5 lety +67

    Jeffrey Dahmer schooling us about switch pitching.

  • @tommytsunami4910
    @tommytsunami4910 Před 5 lety

    I saw him pitch at a Ray's vs blue Jay's game at a preseason game in 2016. It was fun to watch him switch

  • @big_guy_tings
    @big_guy_tings Před 4 lety

    I don't even know where baseball is played, but this was extremely amusing.

  • @adamcollett4175
    @adamcollett4175 Před 5 lety +46

    The dude in the hat contributes 0% to these videos, he's like "oh wow" 😂

    • @Will-hy4sv
      @Will-hy4sv Před 4 lety +9

      Adam Collett I’m trying my best ok

    • @achildr1
      @achildr1 Před 4 lety +5

      He also seems pretty lit.

    • @ShantyIrishman
      @ShantyIrishman Před 3 lety +2

      It was nice of Vox to give an opportunity to some random bartender in Bushwick.

    • @givecamichips
      @givecamichips Před 3 lety +1

      He's there to be the audience surrogate, and the host can crack jokes and at least one person will laugh at them.

  • @CrescentCitySweaters
    @CrescentCitySweaters Před 5 lety +9

    Left handed people were forced to be right handed all the time in like our grandparents’ lifetimes. You can definitely be trained to use your non-dominant hand. In sports, the most successful player using his off hand is probably Rafael Nadal, the greatest clay court tennis player of all time and potentially the second best player behind Federer

    • @toddbiesel4288
      @toddbiesel4288 Před 5 lety

      Jordan Lacoste Don't forget about Phil Mickelson.

    • @XaviRonaldo0
      @XaviRonaldo0 Před 3 lety

      Most hockey players shoot left handed too. Not sure if the reason though

  • @jacob5169
    @jacob5169 Před 3 lety

    Honestly, I'd be interested in seeing you talk about obscure and weird sports.
    Finnish baseball immediately springs to mind

  • @krawithan
    @krawithan Před 4 lety +1

    one of the reasons i love base ball is those what just happened moments

  • @theunwelcome
    @theunwelcome Před 5 lety +10

    bruh, does your shirt say "Laura Dern"?
    edit: is SHE the one holding Bois hostage?!?

  • @RBkaj
    @RBkaj Před 4 lety +4

    "That looks... good"

  • @tylerbrandon460
    @tylerbrandon460 Před 4 lety +2

    5:15 that's f***ing hilarious!

  • @jwl1278
    @jwl1278 Před 3 lety

    I used to read a lot of sports trivia and facts as a kid in the 90's and I remember reading about the guy in the 1800's who could "switch pitch" and they made a rule back then that switching arms would be treated the same as a pitching change. I was suprised when Venditte came along and they made a new rule for him because I expected to see the rule that I read about be in effect.

  • @nickblas
    @nickblas Před 5 lety +6

    How was the rule not made to be "the batter gets into the box then the pitcher gets to decide what he pitches to the batter" like it is with every other pitch? Dumb ruling by the MLB.

    • @kerrygwebster
      @kerrygwebster Před 5 lety

      The rule is correct as MLB has determined. Most batters have a dominate hitting side so the ambidextrous pitcher will then pitch with the opposite giving him a bigger advantage over the hitter. With a switch hitter the pitcher only needs to know what side the batter is weaker from and pitch to that side. Pitcher always has the advantage if he knows the batters weaker side and can force the batter to that side by his hand selection.

  • @raymondprovost9076
    @raymondprovost9076 Před 5 lety +12

    I always thought it was pronounced VANDIGHT not VANDITEE
    *my life is a lie

  • @EnoVarma
    @EnoVarma Před 2 lety

    I love how Will's shirt just says "Laura Dern". Why not. She's awesome.

  • @stuartharris518
    @stuartharris518 Před 5 lety

    I loved you guys best in the Maury show.

  • @MattmanAZ09
    @MattmanAZ09 Před 5 lety +5

    Look at all the right handed boxers who have good left hooks

    • @brokenwave6125
      @brokenwave6125 Před 5 lety

      Yeah, Mike Tyson being the obvious example. His left hook was what he was known for.
      Possibly this happens because the left hand is usually doing short jabs and stuff and doesn't tire out like the dominant arm does...so essentially the left arm can sacrifice the extra power on a few deathblows in the match as its usually doing less of the work.

    • @thewhitewolf7886
      @thewhitewolf7886 Před 3 lety

      I'm a lefty being trained orthodox and southpaw, definitely an advantage.

  • @carlosesparza8777
    @carlosesparza8777 Před 5 lety +3

    Nadal is right handed and plays tennis with his left! So yea you could possibly train to ambidextrous

  • @aciarduce
    @aciarduce Před 4 lety

    Ambidexterity is trainable, it just takes repetitive action with a particular rule-set in your mind that you follow until it becomes standard.
    Baseball is one of the BEST examples of something that changes up the paradigm, because many people try to catch things with their dominant hand. It's natural.
    But here you are training yourself for years to catch with your off hand, safely, so that you can throw with your main hand. After doing it for years myself, I still find that I usually attempt to catch objects with my left.
    In fact there are a LOT of things that I can only do normally with my left hand, and when I do it with my right I have to think through it and it doesn't work.

  • @nickycha8428
    @nickycha8428 Před 3 lety

    Great analysis!

  • @Taygun89
    @Taygun89 Před 5 lety +4

    Try learning guitar with your right hand as picking hand and after a few years just switch it up.....you're gonna struggle to the point of drowning amounts of tears :D
    But if you start off practicing both at the same time it might work. And there are kids who switch the hand "just for fun" and are reeealllly good at it.

    • @spyone4828
      @spyone4828 Před 5 lety

      Paul McCartney played guitar left-handed, but learned to play right-handed as well because (before he got famous) stores wouldn't re-string a guitar just so he could try it out.
      An ambidextrous person has a tremendous advantage, but yes anybody can learn to throw well with their off hand.

    • @mitchellcotton7346
      @mitchellcotton7346 Před 5 lety

      Throwing and playing guitar are completely different.
      Playing guitar is a fine-motor skill which takes longer to learn is more likely to become instinctive with practice.
      Throwing is a gross-motor skill which is easier to analyse biomechanically, making it easier to learn with your non-dominant side.
      I play guitar and cricket, so am very familiar with both skills. Yt?the times I've tried to play guitar left-handed I've been hopeless. When I started learning to throw left-handed, I was already able to throw as well as other people my age threw with their dominant hand (Out of people who did not play sports/play sports where throwing is required)

  • @96SN95
    @96SN95 Před 5 lety +37

    This is awkward as all hell. I feel like I'm watching an overly passionate but serious hipster trying to explain something to a high school stoner.

    • @Involent
      @Involent Před 5 lety +1

      How has this comment managed to accumulate so few likes?

    • @bearcatfan1000
      @bearcatfan1000 Před 3 lety +1

      I’m disappointed this isn’t getting more recognition. I wouldn’t say it’s awkward, but it’s just kind of funny

  • @johnparker408
    @johnparker408 Před 3 lety

    Its a blessing to be a switch pitcher, especially to throw off the opposing coach and his team by confusing them, like striking out a right or left handed batter. The only batter that might have a chance against him is a switch hitter, that's what makes the game more exciting and challenging, a switch pitcher going up against a switch hitter.

  • @fbiagent0124
    @fbiagent0124 Před 5 lety

    The thumbnail lol
    "Just pick a hand so we can go home."

  • @mrbisco
    @mrbisco Před 5 lety +38

    Where are the Jon Bois videos?

    • @WaifuWarsRacing
      @WaifuWarsRacing Před 5 lety +5

      Jon is being held captive in a dungeon at SB Nation's HQ

    • @SecretBaseSBN
      @SecretBaseSBN  Před 5 lety +46

      jon died on the way back to his home planet

    • @WaifuWarsRacing
      @WaifuWarsRacing Před 5 lety +4

      @@SecretBaseSBN YOU'RE HELDING HIM CAPTIVE WE'RE NOT SHEEP STOP LYING TO US

    • @ConnorGroel
      @ConnorGroel Před 5 lety +4

      Check his Twitter. More Chart Party in progress.

    • @LeonelEBD
      @LeonelEBD Před 5 lety +2

      @@SecretBaseSBN we love you all =) btw thanks for the "fighting in the age of loneliness" documentary, would like to see 2 of those this year.
      That would be ... Pretty Good
      YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  • @goldenslayer2187
    @goldenslayer2187 Před 5 lety +3

    What if you have no dominant hand?

  • @steelerfaninperu
    @steelerfaninperu Před 4 lety

    It would have been way more fun if they told both players to turn their backs to one another, pick a side, and then turn around and be committed to it for the rest of the at bat.
    You could get the PA announcer into this and turn it into a fun fan activity where they cheer for which side they think their man should go.
    Put a timer on it and now we've got us a fun way to resolve a rare dispute.
    Also, you guys are hilarious. Your imagining of live-switch baseball feels straight out of a Judd Apatow script.

  • @yankeeluver100
    @yankeeluver100 Před 5 lety

    The writer and the basic Chad, love it.

  • @MurrayHill17
    @MurrayHill17 Před 4 lety +4

    Judging by the sweater, I'm guessing he bats from both sides of the plate as well...

  • @jonathanberggren9805
    @jonathanberggren9805 Před 5 lety +19

    How did it take SB Nation so long to talk about the Pat Venditte rule? Also you can train for this but its super difficult, it's not something you are born with. I play Ultimate Frisbee and can throw with both my right and left hand. We need some Ultimate Frisbee weird rules shows, our rules are pretty strange.

    • @brandonhinrichs8657
      @brandonhinrichs8657 Před 5 lety +1

      Some people are actually born ambidextrous as a result of brain wiring but you can also rewire your brain through practice.

    • @hawthornedouglas
      @hawthornedouglas Před 5 lety +1

      Name one weird ultimate rule?

    • @jayt4697
      @jayt4697 Před 5 lety

      it is something that people are born with to a degree and of varying levels, I've always been able to play golf, hockey, and swing a bat both left and right handed but not throw with both for example.

  • @ultimateqmazing2537
    @ultimateqmazing2537 Před 4 lety +2

    I trained myself to be ambidextrous and managed to get a left handed scholarship for school. Took me 5 years for it to be second nature simply because I had to start over with learning everything on one hand while making sure my skills didn’t get rusty on the other.

  • @Jay-pz1wd
    @Jay-pz1wd Před 4 lety +2

    Billy Wagner was born a righty, broke it twice in football and had to learn southpaw in H.S. and is one of the greatest closers

  • @giopatton7343
    @giopatton7343 Před 5 lety +18

    How is this dude saying it’s easy to train to be a professional ambidextrous picture

    • @brokenwave6125
      @brokenwave6125 Před 5 lety +9

      I've trained for years at standing very still and I'm still not a picture.

    • @Abravesfan1988
      @Abravesfan1988 Před 5 lety

      Broken Wave lmao 😂😂

  • @zacharymassengale5218
    @zacharymassengale5218 Před 5 lety +8

    How did the guy on the right get this job? And how much does he get paid? I'll do the same job with a personality for way cheaper, I promise!

  • @MinistryOfMagic_DoM
    @MinistryOfMagic_DoM Před 4 lety +1

    Hey! The rule that screwed me over! I can also switch pitch really well. Bonus points I can also switch throw a football. It comes in handy sometimes. Not often though.

  • @LavenderSystem69
    @LavenderSystem69 Před 5 lety

    Right handed drummers have a joke about how to get as close to being ambidextrous as possible, and I think it's honestly pretty applicable to the discussion about whether it's possible to train your non-dominant hand to be as useful as your dominant hand for a lot of things: use your left hand for everything. EVERYTHING.

  • @wa27
    @wa27 Před 5 lety +4

    Where do I buy a "LAURA DERN" t-shirt?

  • @BuffComputerNerd
    @BuffComputerNerd Před 5 lety +5

    I like these videos but maybe get people who actually like baseball and know the game?

  • @adempc
    @adempc Před 5 lety

    What was amazing was all the corn tassels that were gathered in this.

  • @kohoko1952
    @kohoko1952 Před 4 lety

    Switch hitting is one thing, ambidextrous pitching is 'a whole new ball-game!!!'