"Kids Are Too Expensive!” How Thailand Became One Of The World's Fastest Aging Countries | Insight
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- After Singapore, Thailand has the lowest fertility rate in Southeast Asia, making it one of the fastest aging countries in the world. The problem is, Thailand will grow old before it grows rich.
An aging society is typically a predicament affecting developed nations. But Thailand is still developing. So, why is it facing a population crisis ahead of time? How did culture, religion, the economy, policies, and politics drive down the birthrate in the Land of Smiles? The Thai government is changing the laws to encourage more births. Can they reverse the slide? And, faced with a stagnating economy and competition from its younger neighbours, what does it mean for Thailand if it cannot rejuvenate its fertility rate?
00:00 Introduction
02:25 What's different about Thailand's falling birthrate
05:59 Why aren't young Thais having children?
08:29 Rising cost of living a big concern
12:08 Having children = loss of opportunity for women?
16:20 Urbanisation contributing to lower birth rate?
21:14 Impact of family planning policies on economic growth
23:49 Elderly Thais working past retirement age
28:53 High social welfare costs stretching government's budget
31:32 Housing an elderly population that is living for longer
37:09 Government push to increase access to reproductive tech
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'I feel like my own life is tough enough' - that's it. that's all there is to say.
exactly.
Agree. Especially recent years after Covid.
Me too
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lower the standard of living?
A lot of Thai adults are also financially responsible for their aging parents due to the lack of good pension system. If you're a single child that means providing for 3 people (including yourself) even before any kids. No thanks.
Yea right...so let's see who's gonna take care of these people who don't have kids and reach old age in Thailand. If the pension system is not going to change they will die alone and miserable.
Pension system is a fantasy. They rely on an ever increasing pool of payers. If people live longer or the amount of payers is reduced, the system falls like it is happening in the whole west.
The problem is the unstoppable growth of governments spending. There is too much taxation and intervention
@@anadeealupu1458 it could easily happen....alot of poor people in that country already who can't get assistance.
God loves ❤️ Thailand 🇹🇭.
It is alright to be concern or not know about what happens after this life. Fortunately there's a way to not suffer, not be in danger, not be poor, not get hurt, not have to work in vain, not have to feel any kind of negative vibe, and not to get tired anymore.
Imagine you will be invincible, immortal, and holy with a new, upgraded body to the core! Imagine everyone around you will be the same as you. Isn't that a delightful thought? It's true you or anyone can have eternal life.
All you got to do is to accept Jesus Christ 🙏 as your Savior! Once you do, He will let you into heaven during your day when you finally see Him!
Just give permanent resident status to ALL American men…fertility problem solved instantly overnight.
"my own life is tough enough"
Exactly. I wouldn't want my future child to have to suffer the way I did, just to live. Not even live a life of luxury but to simply live and exist is hard as it is.
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Maybe this generation just grew up with a larger sense of responsibility towards parenthood? The bar to think of yourself as a good parent is higher, and costs are higher. Honestly this is better than what our grandparents had. Many just had kids cause that’s what everyone around them did, not questioning or caring or planning. Many of them were great parents, but most should have never been allowed to do what they did to their kids.
f you have no children, then you are not invested in the future of the world. You are only on this earth to consume, pollute and then die. So what's the point of your life?
Exactly people underestimate how difficult simply being alive is
It has nothing to do with current living conditions, humanity has never had it as good it is now as a whole. The problem is the gap between expectations most people nowadays have regarding their quality of life and reality.
It’s just not Thailand it’s everywhere now. Inflation has impacted all of us.
f you have no children, then you are not invested in the future of the world. You are only on this earth to consume, pollute and then die. So what's the point of your life?
Inflation is a just symptom, not the cause. Vote for better gov't that supports people over corporate profits.
@@earnthis1 True
Not true. There are a lot of countries wher the people have a lot of children. Even in the US they have 4 and 7 kids
Undeveloped countries and people of Religion of Peace are poppig children like rabbits
Pets become children. Children become exotic animals.
Lol thailand isn't developed which is concerning
I mean it would become old before it reaches to high income developing countries which would lead to more poor conditions in this country .
Do those people following koresn culture of not having babies but they dont know their country is just above the poor ones.
Vietnam doesn't suffer much then why thailand going this way.
LMFAO! Great analogy!
@@pikachuthunderbolt3919 Thai government prepare give nationality to Myanmar imigrant
@@pikachuthunderbolt3919 Vietnam is poorer than Thailand, comparing GDP per persona. But the idea of not marrying and having children is also popularized here by social media.
And technology becomes luxuries for the elites.
They really are upsetting the masses
Working women do not want additional responsibilities. Raising a child is no joke. Kids are cute, but expensive and time consuming. The mother has to dedicate big time. I admire those women who can do it.
Not having children because it's too much effort = selfish.
@@user-pv2xy1og8h found the male in the comments LOL
@@CheesusCruste yeah I see that comment everywhere, men who don't take of raising their children daily will always want more, notice the interview of 1960's Italy, one house wife was saying enough kids but the man who gets to go to office and escape the house shamelessly said he wants 6 kids. Us women in this cut throat career environment still will choose to go to office than sitting at home with kids, they're not going to get it
@user-pv2xy1og8h why? If I don't have the ability to do it , why should I take responsibility? Due to society pressure? That not a health family.
@@user-pv2xy1og8hprivilege male who loves telling women what to do and not to do. There’s also a lot of men who dont want kids. Call them out too. 😂
In Thailand, we say that having a child is a luxury these days. I'm still paying for my daughter's university tuition and living expenses. And I'm only on a meagre teacher's salary. One child is enough for me (to bring up well). No way could I afford to raise two kids in Bangkok, especially.
@@029_rafeehidayat3 I used to live in Thailand, cause of living is still relatively low, but I guess too much corruption makes public subsidiarity substandard. For example the University, many public universities are very good, but far too few in relation to the population, and private university is very expensive in relation to the average income. Decline population can be fixed with immigration. Thailand need a better immigration law to get more quality immigrants, like Singapore or the US is doing, but to modernize the law is the government job. They (Thai politicians) are a bunch of backward thinking people. I don't think they'll do anything better than they are now. AND at any time during a blue moon night, the Thai military could stage a coup to destroy any progress yet again,
I would say schooling (from Primary to University level) is the main problem. Most public schools are deemed to be sub-standard. The good ones can be very difficult to get in and private schools are very expensive.
@@UtopiaBanishedwhich thai university has an education on par with universities in the west?
@difencrosby There are lot of public universities in Thailand ranked in the world's top 1,000 unis. And a lot of international programs I used to be an exchange student here at Chulalongkorn University (usually ranked Thailand"s #1 university) However, that was in the days the British govt used to fund (give free grants) to students like myself. For those studying Medicine, however, Mahidol University is the toughest to enter.
@029_rafeehidayat3 You're right. Same as in Thailand. Top schools and universities are all public. Public education in Thailand is dirt cheap. However, my daughter's mother illegally sneaked my daughter out of the country to live with step-dad when she was in about grades 6/7. Therefore, on my daughter returning to Thailand, she could not re-enter the public education system.
Having babies you can't afford isn't going to help anyone except those who are looking to exploit your labor and insecurity. The rich ppl are just concerned that their cheap labor supply will diminish. Dont be easily fooled.
exactly
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Actually, this is part of the riches plan for population control.
wise words
Yes!
I love how Thai really think about their future child's future. I lived in Thailand for a year and this is something I learned from them
I’m an American and this is also how I feel. Not just in Thailand. I’m sure a lot of people feel this way thus the decrease in birth rates.
As a 35 woman in Thailand, I think about this topic a lot. One thing that different about this generation is we don't want our children to take care of us when we are old. The previous generation can expect children to take care of them but this generation needs to think about retirement before children.
Wait until you reach 40 -45 you will regret for not having atleast one baby... family is important bro no one lives till 70 nowadays human life span is decreased all we need is love and affection for few days only a kid can give that..
@@tarunika983 IMO the people who really want to have kids do it by 25, 30 at latest. Her being 35 in childless means shes not going to have kids which is not a bad thing.
f you have no children, then you are not invested in the future of the world. You are only on this earth to consume, pollute and then die. So what's the point of your life?
Even if the child do not have to take care of you when you become old, having a child that loves you means a lot. Just do it. You don't have a lot of time anymore. You will let go of such a blessing.....
@@surinameworshipthelordwith9054 Says a lot about you : you crave so much for love that you need to create a being to love you. If between the billions of people already on earth you can not find some of them loving you, then you should reevaluate yourself why you are not loved and liked.
Furthermore it is extremely naieve to think that a child automatically loves their parents. Many many cases in which they don't get along very well.
I dont know why society has created a world that makes raising children difficult.
Seems by design tbh. The systems now really reward not having children.
Its not the society, but the corrupt governments collaborating with the rich elites. Policy's are sold and bought for and by the rich elites which makes your money debase faster than your wage growth. In America have you seen last this week's PPI report, wage grow only by 0.2% while the goods sold by producers rose 2.4%. Who benefits? Only the rich
It's never been easier in history. People simply choose consumerism and personal endeavors over having a family, simple as that.
Greed and apathy
The most on point observation. I can't agree with you more. @@mysterioanonymous3206
As someone from Korea where the fertility rate is almost zero, I can relate to people in this video. It's sad realities that people decide not to marry or have kids due to financial difficulties. Seems very common problem in all over the Asia. I and my partner are also considering not having kids. We have a cat, and we consider our baby daughter
Thailand and Korea are now like siblings. Our young people are facing the same situation. 😢
@freebee172 Yeah 100%. The cost of living is getting more expensive and expensive every year. I wonder if this is a new normal.
Stay strong, fellow Asian friend 💪
My question is...when a person is old and retired...like 70+yrs of age, who will take care of them? Their cats? Having a child is important...no one else will care about you later on.
After working in a large city in Thailand, I chose a more quiet place to retire in and that was Isaan. It's interesting as a foreigner to observe the many teenage pregnancies in rural Thailand compared to teenagers living in Bangkok for example. It seems in rural Thailand there isn't any discussion how a girl can say "no" to her young boyfriend who wants to have sex. Unfortunately the grandmother usually gets the responsibly to take care of the child. There doesn't seem to be pressure from village society that the young father of the child needs to financially be responsible for his child though he chooses not to marry the girl he impregnated. And the infidelity rate of young Thai husbands is quite high. These young children growing up without a mother and father is another social problem in rural Thailand. Fortunately the teenager quickly realizes its best to take some type of birth control; thus, having two kids seems to the average in rural Thailand. Note: This is only my opinion and observation)
Statistically Esarn and Southerner contribute to mostly new borns. Northen and Central reduce badly.
Best birth control is no sex.
As someone whose born in Bangkok, does this mean that, in the future, most of the population would be more of lower-class than now? I mean, we need every class for the society to run smoothly. But if it's come out like that, in the end it would only be the lower-class and higher-class only. Middle-class would be gone.
Interesting from a "foreigner" point of view (unbiased). When you are a local, one takes many things for granted, including village society's opinion.
@@jnhkz If you manage to raise the level of education and make that a viable way to climb up the societal ladder, then it won't be a problem. Classes are mutable in a meritocracy.
The core problem is the parent in all developing and developed countries do not see better future for their kid.
Hence , no point reproducing
do you have data? I believe it is more of the "cost" of raising children and not the perception of bleak future.
@@TheMicko27 whenever a person ask "do u have data", it shows that person already has different opinion.
You can hold onto what you believe. Or you can just do the survey on your own.
@@tanjongmalim6869 WRONG. I ask for data because I am not a blind follower. I am a data-driven person. And we should all be. Otherwise, you become part of the fake news cult.
Still, do you have data??
@@tanjongmalim6869you nailed it
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The answers are same, "child is expensive", "child takes your time".
Do not have wrong impression with Indonesia's 2.1 birth rate. The numbers are carried by rurals in which it is uncommon for a woman to give birth to at least 3 children and sometimes 5 children.
In the urban, at most, a family only has 1 child, 2 children if wealthy.
It is impossible for a family to have a child with no help of family's member or one of parent gives up his/her job.
2 people earnings are just enough to live comfortably.
1 people earning is just enough.
1 people earning with a child is struggling, if there is a break such as covid-19, most won't recover financially.
Not having children because it's too much effort = selfish.
@@user-pv2xy1og8h found the male in the comments LOL
@@CheesusCruste i'm sure there are a lot of women with children with the same mentality.
Just ask any women who didn't want children, had one, then decided to have another (2 in total)
Even in Indonesian 🇮🇩 brith rate drop from
2.22 in 2020
2.21 in 2021
2.18 in 2022.
Go to 2.14 in 2023
Brith rate in jakarta is 1.6 in 2020
Babies are a liability in a urban society, while it is an asset in a farming society. It seems life choices are effected by financial considerations.
Because you can ask your kid to help with farm work.
In developed society, they call it "child labor"
@@Dominus_Potatus helping on a farm and cleaning up in a slaughterhouse or going into a mine are pretty different.
One of the aspects not mentioned here is the "structural" factor that also made Thailand maintain its status as middle-income, the inability to evolve into a sector with better economic growth, as it's also a root cause why lot of Thais (including myself) decided not to have children.
Since the crisis of 1997 (nearly 30 years ago), Thailand's economic growth has depended on two major sectors: assembly industrial (e.g. automobile and electronics) and tourism. However, our industries are in decline not only due to China's role as a "global shophouse" that made us less and less competitive, but lots of our expertise (e.g. Hard Disk Drive, and Internal Combustion Cars) became obsolete products with even less export demand. Meanwhile, tourism is highly affected by various external factors such as the global economy or pandemic, and when something wrong occurs, a lot of Farangs, Japanese, and even Malays who would spend for their trip (by their own will or most of their time being scammed) vanish.
Looking at other "engines" to help drive our growth: agriculture, which employed one-third of Thai but contributed only one-tenth of GDP and still suffers with a lower yield than competitors (especially rice, even our are better); industries, not enough domestic capital, and technology to invest into high-tech such as biotech or robotics; service, maybe a bit better than Malaysia but much less "sexy" in terms of Geopolitics compared with Singapore. Not to mention that the Thai economy further being beaten down by the military regime for 8 years prior.
Without government spending (most of them were paid for salaries) and foreign investments (many being diverted to Vietnam), the Thai economy could hard to find what to stimulate growth. The ones I should blame other than the government are Thai companies. Looking at the Top 100 local companies, most of them are energy, banks, retail, and telecoms which they could not compete elsewhere. With oligopolistic (in the easy words "low competition") status under a sizeable domestic market, their growth and profits are secured without the need or pressure to create more jobs and innovation.
While those large companies do not care much about competitiveness (as they could export Baht to anywhere else) or wage hikes (as they could charge us later), many SMEs would suffer from several closures and job loss if they lose only "competitiveness" in terms of cheaper labor cost. Those structural deficiencies left Thailand struck with a "glass ceiling" that we could not increase wages for at least 11 years while inflation rose at 1-2 percent every month.
Bringing average income for local Thais (not you Farangs!) is about 7,350 THB for those who receive minimum wages and 15,000 THB for workers with college degrees. Thus, spending is nearly eaten out of the whole payroll. Bangkok and suburbs prices for cheap but not slum studio apartments cost about 4,000 THB per month, low nutrient but edible foods for 50 THB each meal, and two-hour bus transit from CBD to your room may cost about 100 THB daily. Even if you have eaten two meals a day, those already cost you 10,000 THB and you have to pay for electricity, phone bills, and even soap (as we Thais take a shower at least two times a day). This should explain why lots of Thais had no savings (and on the opposite, high rates of household debt), not speak about spending for hobbies, pets, kids, or parents living in outer provinces. Meanwhile, they have no alternative as most job opportunities that provide better pay are concentrated only in Bangkok and its suburbs, Eastern provinces of industrial estates, or traveler's destinations like Chiang Mai or Phuket.
On the other hand, the government became not capable to provide of adequate subsidies. As a Thai "middle-class", with my own qualification at least eligible to pay income tax which bottom threshold is earned at least 18,250 THB per month before deduction (that made them pay tax for 1 THB), considering only 4.7 out of 66 million Thais (you can blame this for shadow economy). This means the low proportion of citizens being paid for education, healthcare, and social welfare used by whole countries. Low pools of government income result in adequate services as you have to trade quality with coverages. Furthermore, some aspects of government services had to be paid individually. For example public elementary schools, the average ones cost you about 1,000 - 2,000 THB per semester but you have additional payment for books, stationery, and uniforms !!! which made you pay about 4,000 - 5,000 THB per child.
Meanwhile, seeking a better education that later would ensure you a job with a good income will cost a lot more due to hidden costs including housing (most of good schools concentrate in Bangkok), transport (to bring your kids from and to your suburb's houses), tutoring (many university exams require something more "intensive"), and other "social taxes" (to fit in with Bangkokian middle-class society). Even if you had a combined income of about 100,000 THB per month (equal to a couple of auditors - a breed who receive much higher than average income), it became a dilemma to use them for raising kids or saving them for retirement as government safety nets for elders are barely enough for adequate living standards and become more difficult if you suffered with NCDs after a retirement.
Even though we suffered minor problems of brain drain (as we absorb many Farangs, Japanese, and Chinese in exchange) and plenty of blue-collar workers from neighboring countries ready for a fill-up in labor-intensive works, solving Thailand's aging problems in the long-run could be possible only with a better economic structure that made ordinary Thai wealthier enough to spend more on elder and kids, and government obtain more taxes to subsidize someone who raises kids and taking care elder for us who don't have though.
Better reforms also help us Thai rather than struck into the middle-income trap that made us suffer with both first-world and third-world problems simultaneously, and what our government will do to help solve this for us is a single-shot injection for 10,000 baht and hope our Thai spend more, what a bullshit!
Good comment Kup.
I'm Bangkokian and I totally agree with you .
good info krap
Don’t forget about that recent “10-Year Old Rice Debacles”, Our Agriculture Sector (especially Rice) will be in ruins for the next decade. 😢
Excellent analysis, you should be in the government. I visited Thailand this year and was greatly impressed especially with Bangkok - it seemed like a world-class metropolis with second-to-none infrastructure and a bustling economic life. It looks like a lot is hidden behind the facade...
Not just only for Thailand, Hong Kong is same like Thailand. I have no children because I have no money to pay for books, food and living place when I still young ! Now I am old and can not get baby.
Adoption
@@CordeliaWagner1999 It's not the same.
@@CordeliaWagner1999 She does not have money🫤 to adopt.
Money is GOD
I went to Thailand alone for 3 months with my 8 month old son and every where we went Men ,women and child would run up to me and say baby!! They would take my son hold him, play with him and take pictures with him. It was like he was a celebrity. I’ve never seen anything like that ❤
@@TheNapoleona letting the white man bust in you for security. good play
They probably wanted to sell your kid
I lived in Thailand 5 years and saw what you describe many times. you can always easily eat with a baby because the staff will gladly hold and cuddle them. Thais love children especially cute foreign babies.
@@user-dk3up2nl1mnot for Thai, we love kids. They are so precious and cute for us. ❤
Not from Thailand but the world is getting more fucked up, global warming, pandemics and more diseases, more crime. Water shortage, more air pollution (i live in delhi) why would i want to bring a child into this world knowing he will suffer in the future. This also is one of the main reasons for me.
Dude - it has been way worse.
I too have similar thought.
Cos u r in Delhi...and you have a tea seller as leader ..I pity you though
@@HKim0072 'it has been way worse' is a terrible argument to try to convince people to have a child
Global warming is a globalist agenda, nothing more.
I live in the USA, and for me, having children is a luxury too! I can barely afford my food, so I can't imagine having children, and I don't want them either! I have a cat, and that's all I need! ❤
Seems like the invaders don't have problems popping out, babies.
f you have no children, then you are not invested in the future of the world. You are only on this earth to consume, pollute and then die. So what's the point of your life?
And the fucked up Healthcare system
Of course, I have a lovely Thai-Cat too.
Australians are not having kids either
Tawatchai's part of the video made my eyes water. Gosh, if I were to become poor and hadn't planned my finances well enough, I would do the same thing he is doing, rather than be a burden on my family. I would work until the end of my life instead of dragging my family down, and that's without having any kids. Thailand nowadays is getting worse and worse. Even the air we breathe here in Bangkok requires us to buy purifiers from China. Imagine living a life where you even have to purchase the air you breathe. Having a kid? Haha, you've got to be kidding me.
Kids deserve better for sure. They dont ask to come here to suffer and live in poverty.
It used to be a norm to have a bunch of kids in our grandparents era and not think much about how their future will be. The mentality then was if the kids can't make it in school then just drop out and find work. It doesn't work like this anymore. People now feel highly responsible for the kids they have and want them to have decent life and education in order to secure a better future.
Standard of living in general can only go up because of the need for economy growth. People generally want salary increments every year so inevitably drive up costs of everything. Those who are at low and middle income will always suffer because they won't starve to death, but can't eat their fill.
Raising child is so hard. I have a daughter who is going to graduated bachelor’s in engineering. Many years ago, I quit a corporate job to be with her. I studied every education methodology in Thailand, looking for her school. I controlled myself not to pick her up every time she cried. I stopped myself not to call her every time I missed her.
However, Thai people always give me smile and encouragement. I never feel down even though I have gone through financial difficulty to give my daughter the textbooks and computers.
I’m Thai. I have been to many places in the world, and I love to live here. I have close friends who are from Myanmar, China, and America here. Sometimes we have beautiful morning coffee. We can openly express our thoughts on various subjects. Sometimes we help each other to cook dinner for our family. Thailand may have many problems, but Thai people are so kind and willing to help everyone.
👍👍👍👍👍👍The best to you and your family.
Free child care, free high quality schools, child stipends for parents who pay taxes, low cost education, affordable housing, affordable health care.....it's a global problem
Child credit is already a thing so clearly that doesn't solve the issue
@@Jen1112111 throwing money into the market inflates prices. Supporting the market deceases prices.
@@cheesemaster113 exactly, they need to stop throwing out money and give certain goods for free to prevent inflation.
From experience, there is no support for single parent. If couples split up, only one parent (or grandparents) is responsible for raising the child. Both parents need to be held legally accountable for raising the child and taking care of child's well-being.
gov is the enemy for thais
Lol thailand isn't developed which is concerning
I mean it would become old before it reaches to high income developing countries which would lead to more poor conditions in this country .
Do those people following koresn culture of not having babies but they dont know their country is just above the poor ones.
Vietnam doesn't suffer much then why thailand going this way.
Agree! Single parenting is very difficult! Especially hard when you have been a housewife all along before the divorce! Hard to find a job when you can’t list “stay at home mom” on your resume!
Actually there is child support in Thailand. During the divorce process both side have to decide the child custody and how much is the child support.
@@Natsu-tb6vr but if they not pay. nothing can make them pay
people are so tired of being slaves of capitalism.
sure the country's total gdp is rising, but mostly for the rich. the poor remains poor.
Exactly! The people on top are mad that the rest of us don’t want to create more cheap labor for them to exploit.
Exactly! Don't be fooled, the so called post-capitalistic wealth and GDP is benefitting the rich only! The middle class is tired of being exploited
Not only thailand, singapore korea japan and many countries all low birth rates for 1 simple reason Money. Things are getting expensive and the world is really getting into bad shape heatwaves in asia and floods in western countries. Is it really worth to create a innocent human in this world now?
It is not wise to have a child born in this world, which is why we all need to preach and practice antinatalism to end all these bullshit. Humans are selfish by nature . Humans created all these problems, I will not be surprise many countries around the world will collapse . I am in for antinatalism. If I have a choice , I would rather not be born in this world in the first place.
Singapura 0,97
Taiwan 0,85
South Korea 0,72
Lol thailand isn't developed which is concerning
I mean it would become old before it reaches to high income developing countries which would lead to more poor conditions in this country .
Do those people following koresn culture of not having babies but they dont know their country is just above the poor ones.
Vietnam doesn't suffer much then why thailand going this way.
@@pikachuthunderbolt3919so its all about the country. What about the people? Who cares if a country is rich or poor. Just because japan is rich does not mean everyone is rich
Any body who wants a goodnight sleep should not have children. Life is hard enough for individuals to survive
What a boring life. I'd prefer a crazy house full of life over a retirement home kind of life any day.
@@Zucker2007 Your choice then. I prefer peace of mind, the ability to work on my passions and goals and live my life to the fullest, rather than be restrained into a chaotic life with no certainty, no hope, no future, no success, and a constant money drain.
😁 love my rest, I woke up at 5pm today by choice.
@@Zucker2007 i don't think even many parents share the same sentiment as you. 😂
@@MichaellaSapphire I know! This world is not made for me. People have become very one dimensional and you always walk on egg shelf because everyone is offended by everything.
Amazing documentary from CNA!
I really feel for women that want children but can’t conceive 😢
Boohoo then adopt
@@Bunny11344Didn't help , That's still sad
I'll be turning 51 this year, and I've heard that Thailand is a developing country since I was born. I don't think it's developing, I think it's undeveloped. The reason I say this is because Thailand has suffered from many coups and is one of the most frequent countries where the military destroys democracy. Only the elites and high-ranking investors with connections to the upper class can take profit from the country's resources. Connections are more important than conscience. The middle to lower classes really suffer from this.
The new generation knows about this, and if they have the chance, they definitely go abroad to seek a better life. However, if someone can't go, they might rethink having children because of the unfairness mentioned earlier.
Itu namanya crisis ekonomi, ketika ayah anda mampu menyekolahkan anda sampai universitas, tetapi anda tidak mampu menyekolahkan anak anda sampai universitas dan memilih tidak mau punya anak
Thank you for another fascinating episode! ☮️
A cost of raising a kid with good environment and education is too high. Furthermore a lots of Thai people wants to be high educated and get a high salary for make sure that they’re prepared for having a kid. They’ve seen a lot of children who raised with unprepared parents and bad environments from social in bad way that’s one of reasons why they have to make sure. Because they doesn’t want their children to suffer like they did in the past.
In my opinion as a Thai the main reason is literally financial. The cost of living gains every year even in countryside the cost is higher as well.
A falling birth rate would only be bad news to economists who want an ever-rising population in a finite world.
Maybe it's good news that lots of people aren't reproducing.
That will just mean we will have more elders than younger people, and the younger people will inherit more assets from the older generation.
Imagine this: the youth generation will inherit assets not only from the parents and grandparents, people of the direct lineage, but also people of the side branches, because they have no descendants.
Also creating more children can actually impact pollution. So less people, less production of pollution
Plus Ai robotic solutions from Healthcare to other functions.
Idiocracy movie coming to life
Until younger generatio can generate their babys factory
Here we go again with blaming every capitalist or economist out there.
That is not the problem. The problem is birth rate falling too fast too quickly, before even welfare programs from the government becomes established enough. Countries like Japan, South Korea, Nordic ones might handle this better as their socialist policies now have a more solid foundation. That would not have happened if they didn’t grow fast enough from their previous economic boom and capitalistic policies. Ironic isn’t it?
So no, it is not realistic to say that the goal is to have infinite population growth. It is already a given that human population will stagnate eventually. The goal is to dampen how quick that population declines.
Is Thailand still considered a developing nation? I went there and most places have good infrastructure, and very well developed. As a SEAn, I feel proud, and saddened at the same time because am from the Philippines and we are so far behind.
I thought Japan is beautiful because, well, it is Japan, but then I went to Thailand and didn't realize how far ahead it is compared to Philippines. Anyway, kudos for Thailand! So proud of you as a tourist there once.
We still stuck in middle income. Developed nation should have more than 12k income annually. We still 7k income.
Development and decent infrastructures are confined in capital BKK. Rurals are rather poorly developed and neglected by government policy. Nowadays, some areas of Pathumthani adjacent to BKK still haven't tap water for daily use.
I was born in the Philippines and moved to U.S. when I was young. I feel the same as you that the Philippines is lagging behind compared to other Asian countries. Thailand is still considered a developing country. Thailand's income per capita is $23,401 and the Philippines income per capita is $12,192 according to IMF.
@@superdetectivekidsleague7047 nope I am Thai and living in the border city near Laos. The infrastructure in our city is pretty good and always new. ofc our lifestyle is different from Bangkok but it's not hard to live there and it's not so crowded as in the Philipines.
Thailand are still Developing country. It's just Philippines is a 3rd world country that's why thailand look so advance for us. Our government spending all the money the wrong way
I dont want my kids to be born in the country that has the government like this.
Very interesting documentary. Thank you 🙏
Our main religion (Thailand) is buddhism, we don't believe in god, we don't feel kids are god's gift but they are actually a burden once we have them our life is not ours anymore but belong to them, we would have to spend utmost of our money and time to raise them for a whole life, it is like a risky investment we cannot expect that they will look afer us once we get old, people in some culture may think having children is a retirement plan for them (to fund parents when they grow up) but we only trust in money it can buy comfort when we are old.
Many Isaan parents encourage their daughters to work as prostitutes.
Buddha never said that. Not religion but corruption, Wake up please.
Only region where birthrate still high is in Muslim countries and countries with high Catholic population like Philippines. Only these two faith sees having children as a duty towards God. The rest are just either too materialistic, too soft to let go of current comfort, or too cowardly to bear additional parental responsibility...
Strange that most who complain its too expensive to raise kids in this video are all living in nice houses and driving nice cars... so is raising a child really expensive or just a convinient excuse to escape this responsibility.
@marimuthu14 having children is not a responsibility
Not having children because it's too much cost and effort = selfish.
I was born in Bangkok in the late seventies (I’m a dude). This year I’ll be 47 & out of 7 close friends (all dudes - but 2 of those came out as being Gay in their 20s) only myself have a children…and even that I kept postponing until I was 38. My close cousins whom I grew up with only myself and my younger brother have children (each has a single child). No one talks about having children anymore (at least those who were born and raised in Bangkok). I cannot speak for people from different regions in Thailand but Bangkok has become extremely expensive for Thais and we don’t want to bring out the next generation to face to this very poor & inferior environment. Anyone who says Bangkok is amazing place to live you were not born and raised here. We all want to get out….if we only could…
Many people from the provinces are moving to the big cities for job opportunities. Big Cities around the world are known to have very low birthrates. Big Cities are a magnet for the young generation. Eventually, big city life will be a major contributor to societal collapse.
Thailand doesn't seem like a 'developing country' from most people appearing in this program, tho. It makes me think the real problem is the class divisions within Thai society.
1% of Thais own 66% of the wealth, thats a major problem
An educated child can support himself as an adult and mayby help the family. An uneducated child will have financial problems as an adult and will probably be a burden on the parents and need support.
It is logical for parents to focus their time and money on one child and not to split it on many children. Better to raise one child good than to choose to raise several in poverty.
❤ Thank you for this documentary. I wasn't aware about this situation in Thailand.
Thailand is the closest to the world average for income (GDP per capita PPP). It is neither rich nor poor. It is quite literally the average statistically, the most average on Earth
What about Malaysia?
@@massalleh5255 Above average. Pretty rich, actually.
@@John_Smith_86 Strange, I don't feel very rich living in Malaysia 🤣
@@massalleh5255 Well... you can travel to the Central African Republic instead, and live there. Report back on your experience
@@John_Smith_86 I prefer Thailand
I'm in thailand now and my wife gave birth 4 days ago. From start to finish in the pregnancy I had to spend around 6000$ total I think. They are making it extremely hard here to have babies. They also push for unneccesary C-sections which will limit future pregnancies. I have no doubt that birth rate here will absolutely crash in the next decades. It just keeps getting worse.
Oh i thought you guys have good public healthcare
@@abrahamdslhe is obviously a foreigner
What a bs thing to say.
@@abrahamdsl he is a foreigner, so seems can't use the public healthcare at Thai price. He shouldn't compare his situation to the situation of the Thai.
did she give birth at the hilton hotel? I paid 700 for mine
this wasa so fascinating, thanyou youtube for recommending
We are here in the provinces in the Philippines..i have 4 children the ljoy of my life ..they went to public schools learned well ,blessed with scholarships and hardworking ..more than blessings to me these children i cannot ask for more ..grateful to God ,everyday..
Burden sa mga thai ang anak kya ng decline yun population nila while phil nmanf over populated.
Swerte mo
You did your part....Children are a blessing!
Great informative video, CNA ! 👍🏽
Life is a present box. You don't know what you get until you open it. Having a kid or not doesn't prove that you will have a happy life. So many people don't want to have risk and want to rely on themselves as much as they can.
The flip side is that for a long time social pressure WAS to have kids. People even in more liberal societies thought that kids was your automatic ticket to happiness and a normal successful life. It was the proven path to be normal and happy. Still is basically mandatory in many religious communities. Kids were just presented as buying a fancy car and getting a house.
@@yucol5661I always saw kids as an ending to a happy life. I still do
Well done CNA! This was such an interesting feature and goes deeply to look at different aspects of the issue.
Buddhism at 93% of population? Strange when more than 12% are Muslims!
almost young people these days chose not to have kids even me I am 36 years old now and I prefer not to have kids it is really expensive now a days only the rich are privilege to have one. For me If I cant afford to have kids I rather grow old alone. I can’t handle to see my future kids struggle financially that is the reality not just in Thailand but around the world.
ผมเป็นคนไทย🇹🇭 ตอนแรกก็คิดกังวลกลัวไปก่อนว่าจะเจออะไรแบบนี้
ปัจจุบันผมอายุ 38 เพิ่งมีลูกชายตัวน้อยอายุ 1 ปี 9 เดือน มันทำให้รู้สึกว่าทำไมเราไม่มีลูกให้เร็วกว่านี้😊 อยากมีลูกหลายๆคน มันทำให้ครอบครัวผมมีความสุขมากขึ้น รักกันมากขึ้น ปู่ย่าก็มีความสุข🥰
According to me, a sweet, happy small family life is far more better than a luxurious alone life....😊
Wish you a very happy life....🥰
Take lots of love from India 🇮🇳
❤
Lol thailand isn't developed which is concerning
I mean it would become old before it reaches to high income developing countries which would lead to more poor conditions in this country .
Do those people following koresn culture of not having babies but they dont know their country is just above the poor ones.
Vietnam doesn't suffer much then why thailand going this way.
I'm a Filipina-American (born and grew up in the USA/US) mother of two children. I was 39 (my then husband was 55) when I had my second/last child.
ทุกวันนี้ก็เห็นแต่คนจากประเทศที่ overpopulated อพยพมาไทยไม่หยุดนะ ถ้ามีลูกมากๆๆๆๆ แล้วมันดี ไม่ทราบว่าจะอพยพมาประเทศอื่นทำไม?
This scoop is very good. Well done for all the details.
As a Thai, Thailand has been wishing to be just a production hub relying on the cheap labor to be profitable as well as the oligarchy economy but never has their own technology. This depend on the government vision, unfortunately, 2 coup from 2006 and 2014 made thing got worse.
It's because of China products Thailand manufacturers are Slumping. I think Vietnam is leading in trade and manufacturing now..To my view the Asian countries which Boycotting china products, their Economy is growing fast...
Indonesian here. Our government wants the people to work in factories, but the people are now more aware than ever of their rights as workers, this push and pull is healthy, but not when International companies just want to exploit cheap labour. At the same time, the country has inadequate infrastructure to accommodate the islands, so production is practically crammed into the smallest of our 5 big islands. Add to that the spectre of radical Islam, and you get why foreign investors are spooked.
Corruption still a big issue, tax money, is mostly going in to government pockets instead of speeding the process of improving the country.
Ask any local, example: they use tax money to dig up the same road multiple times since covid. its been 4 years they been " fixing the a road"
AND the average income has not risen , it barely improved.
Majority of locals earn 10,000 - 18,000 baht per month
In the city if your an office worker/ managers its 20,000 - 30,000 baht per month
You hit a nail on the head. Smart thinker. Most viewers 90% missed the points.
Also right issue
ผู้จัดการเงินเดือนแค่ 30000😮😮
😂
"they use tax money to dig up the same road multiple times since covid"
Oh my gosh! That sounds like Manila lol. The traffic it causes is so annoying. I feel you. These politicians are doing everything they can to stay in power and steal money from the public. They don't care if the public is uncomfortable or disrupted with their actions.
Indonesia is 2.1? Wow, maybe the reason it's still high is because of a lot of rural areas. But in the city, it's a different story, many of my friends have no children or are even not married like myself.
Not having children because it's too much cost and effort = selfish.
Jakarta is 1.6 actually
Dutchie in Indonesia:). I Also have 3 kids so above the 2.1😂
people in the cities are more selfish
I live in bali, i had 1 kid. But most of my friend has two and 3 is the max..
Not just Thailand but all countries face declining birth rates. Improving healthcare means people live longer, access to birth control means fewer children therefore birth rates fall.
The nursing assistant and his partner "had to buy a new car"? Maybe it wasn't brand new but it looked like a new model not an older second hand car. I don't know any nursing assistant in the UK that could afford a new car.
Not here in the Philippines. We make babies like rabbits😂
Congratulations for being part of 1st World 👏👏✨🎉
It's not a first world country dear... Too far yet
Lol neighbour sea countries like timor leste have way less population than Thailand yet they still poor
They're still third world 😅
@@leonardo621Third world your ass only ignorant idiots like you refer to Thailand as third world. It is developed, developing and undeveloped country lol get yourself some knowledge stupid
Inequality is very very high in Thailand. We do not want our kids to live in this type of society.
This is how people get back to their government.
YES!
Strange that people don't want to give birth to future slaves.
Not only in Thailand..few countries in Asia have the same problem.👈🙂🙂
There is nothing we can do about it. 👈😏😏
They are work hard avg 12 hr/day for serve capitalist under the law their stand behind
Alone doesn't mean lonely
Lonely always feels alone
Even u already have it all
It has started with my generation who was born in the 1970s onwards. 30% of my girlfriends don't have children. Can you blame us? One of the most beautiful peaceful country on earth but our system failed us terribly. We could have been a country with peaceful and prosperity.
Not having children because it's too much cost and effort = selfish.
@@user-pv2xy1og8h Unlike North Americans and some European countries, Thai people don't get subsidiary housing and money from government. We can't keep having children and asking government for handouts. You call it selfish, I call it responsible.
Yes..Too many coups
The Economist ran two articles about this last year, it was about how a lot of countries in Asia will become old before they get rich. The two articles spoke about Asia in general but the main focus was on Thailand, Sri Lanka and Vietnam - the three main developing Asian countries that will face population peak in the next 15 years, peak in workforce population and subsequent population decline due to low fertility and rapid aging.
You have to admit, those babies and children are adorable!
They....GROW UP!
Debatable
Actually some are drawn by the society peer pressure for commitment towards nice house and cars and lifestyle rathwr than willing to sacrifice for children like our parents did. Media socials show so many indulgence that many couldn't resist. So then the reason is financial burden. But bringing a new life to a world with so high pollutions, stress, economic uncertainty...all these also bring uncertainty future for children in future.
Very good . Point. The enterprise / company have a part to play too.
Considering we are literally running out of food (arable land) on Earth, it's good every nation from west to east, participates in the population reduction project without war.
Remember, it's better to be a great uncle or aunt to your sibling than a lousy parent
Too many annoying people on earth and I don’t even like kids
Hope we do not only think he "negative" things. There are lots of joy in having children. We love our son. Cuz my health condition, we cannot have one more. Of course there are lots of difficult things to be faced, but there are also much more enjoyable moments to be cherished together!
เรามีลูก2คน มีความสุขดีค่ะ การงานและการเงินเป็นไปได้ดี อยู่ในทางที่โอเค ก่อนหน้านี้ก็กลัวว่าจะไม่ไหว แต่จริงๆแล้ว มันมีทางของมันเสมอ มันมีทางให้เราไปต่อได้ตลอด เคยมีช่วงลำบาก แต่ก็ผ่านมาได้ เพราะมีลูกเป็นกำลังใจ…..สุดท้ายแล้ว ทุกคนสามารเลือกได้ว่าจะเอายังไง เราไม่ควรมองกันและกันไม่ดี ขอให้ทุกคนพบเจอกับความสุขค่ะ :) ❤
I live in Thailand, though I'm from London originally. The quoted cost of $550,000 USD for a Private education in an International School is way way off. Our 6 year old goes to an International School in Chiang Mai, and the costs is less than $3,500 USD per year, so times that by 12 and you're still coming in at less than $45k USD
all the private schools in chonburi area are around 25k$ a year, they start at 3 and finish at 18. But you're still right because they're talking about the abolute top schools, Plenty of great schools around that cost around 3,5k indeed.
You're forgetting the bribes to the director to get your kid in in the first place....😂
Wait… more than half a million US Dollars?? Woaaaah what kind of school is this… 😮
The country is also ruled by old people for the old people. There's no space for young people.
No need to have kids then.
คุณภาพสำคัญกว่าปริมาณ จนไม่พร้อมก็ไม่ควรมีลูก ยุโรปหลายประเทศมีประชากรน้อยกว่าไทยไม่เห็นเป็นปัญหาทั้งด้านแรงงานและกองทัพ
จริงๆ แล้วมันเป็นปัญหาใหญ่สำหรับยุโรป
ยุโรปถึงมีปัญหาผู้อพยพไงคะ
This covers so many angles. The struggle to pay bills, to pay for the expenses attached to having kids, what happens when you have no kids and there's nobody to care for you as you age....... the impact lower population has on business....
WOW....
You don't think about this when you hear folks not wanting to have kids. I have 5 from 6 years to 20 and it's been a struggle. As I see more of me in them it was worth it. I can also see why others would prioritize their financial freedom.
Blessings to all and the choices you make 😊
Yeah stay healthy, dont drink alcohol in big amounts, go exercise, eat good food so you dont need much taking care of as you get older
5 kids wow. Your eco footprint is huge.
Unlike China, Thailand is definitely trapped in middle income
middle is better, most people in China still leave in poverty
@@joewelsunga6205 pretty bad actually, how is asean going to compete with the EU like this 😅
No... it is bad.
Middle income is a class in which go to lower income if there is a major issue.
A lot of middle incomes become lower income when covid struck and now a lot are in debt.
Now they are working to pay debt from covid.
In macro economy, the GDP is same because they keep spending the money but in micro economy, they spend on debt paying instead or consumption.
It is what you call as middle income trap.
They are trapped in the middle because they can't get more and beat inflations.
you know little about China. China people lives is same level as Thai@@joewelsunga6205
@@joewelsunga6205 Factually incorrect. They have the largest middle income group in the world, arguably thanks to communism. You are refereeing to India perhaps? where 70% still do not have a toilet.
As an American, I have been fearful of having children because there are so many strange ideas and dangers now that can influence a child. What if your child is influenced by radicalism or is persuaded to use drugs. I’m the same age as Lawrence Wong and when I grew up there were no crazy ideologies and no drug problems here in our Seattle suburb. So the world is changing. We must fix it, though it seems insurmountable and dark forces seem to win.
Developed” countries mean higher standard and cost of living that can only be possible by woman working full time. True for all the countries with declining population.
Goes to show you can’t have everything. It’s sad there is no way to reverse this trend doesn’t matter what. Thailand is also in the same trap. Single income is not enough to support family any more.
Thailand is an upper middle income nation, a developing country though.
Not having children because it's too much cost and effort = selfish.
Lol thailand isn't developed which is concerning
I mean it would become old before it reaches to high income developing countries which would lead to more poor conditions in this country .
Do those people following koresn culture of not having babies but they dont know their country is just above the poor ones.
Vietnam doesn't suffer much then why thailand going this way.
@@pikachuthunderbolt3919 The label high income or low income country really confuses the issue. Bottom line is if cost of living is high and women need to work full time in order to make ends meet there is no time or money for having kids.
@@user-pv2xy1og8h having children = selfish. They are created to fullfill a need which is by definition selfish. All those who breed children into existence should first take care of all those children in need who already exist. But breeders don't care about that, because they are selfish
Thank you for making this videos. I thought about this before too but I never looked into statistics or studies of the number of birth in Thailand is really low.
3 guys I have met don’t want to have kids. They have good jobs too. They want to live and explore and retire with their money! I don’t blame them!
Surprised to learn there is little correlation between marriage and birth rate in Thailand. Makes me wonder if Singapore/Japan/Korea's low birth rate is not caused by fewer marriages but another reason
The reason is too much pressure that comes from meritocracies.
This Problem Can Be Solved Easily Just Take Rohingya Refugee You Will Get 15 Child Per Family,
Breeding Machine That Always Complaint Host Country Does Not Provide Us With Basic Need
normal here to get married after baby is born
In lower income family you can often see women in their 20s having 4 kids, all from different fathers. That's kind of famliy is main contribution to current population increase 😅
Lol thailand isn't developed which is concerning
I mean it would become old before it reaches to high income developing countries which would lead to more poor conditions in this country .
Do those people following koresn culture of not having babies but they dont know their country is just above the poor ones.
Vietnam doesn't suffer much then why thailand going this way.
Was in Thailand in January, and i was surprised. I thought Thailand is similar with us in Indonesia where there are so many youngsters.
The youngsters go to the big city...Bangkok. The birthrate will continue to decline and it will cause serious economic pain in the near future. City people are much less likely to want babies.
@@garyzies3486 indeed! I talked to several Thais whom are in their 20s, none of them thinking to get married, or at least not in the next 10 years they said. And they are living in Bangkok.
@@yukiaditya7352 Demographic researchers are predicting the Thai population to shrink by HALF within the next 40 years.
@@yukiaditya7352 That is my observation as well.
35yrs old single and opted not to have a children in my life. Honestly I'm earning decent income for myself but adding a children in my life will put my status quo in limbo. I had decided to never change my lifestyle in exchange for an uncertain future, additional expenses and additional responsibilities. I want to do so much that having a child will definitely derail my plans and goals; I think the cons outweigh the pros. I had already hit half of the life expentancy and the time was too short. I already promise myself that I wil never bring a child in this world to experience the same hardship I had experienced.
so relatable
Real estate in Thailand even though we are developing country, it is much better than in many developed country in term of area and quality
True
Oh yeas and much more affordable compared to the US.
This is good news!
ไม่ใช่แค่ฐานะการเงินที่เป็นเหตุผลหลักต่อการไม่อยากมีลูกหลาน..
แต่เพราะสังคมโลกและการเมืองรวมทั้งปัญหามลภาวะหรือสิ่งแวดล้อมฯ ทำให้โลกใบนี้ไม่น่าอยู่เหมือนรุ่นก่อนๆ แม้ว่าวัตถุและเทคโนโลยีจะพัฒนาก้าวกระโดด แต่ทางด้านจิตใจและธรรมชาติกลับสวนทาง..
การเลือกทางสงบไม่ซับซ้อนไม่ต้องมีห่วงมีบ่วงภาระ นั่นคือจุดหมายของคนวัยทำงาน/วัยสร้างครอบครัว/วัยก่อนเกษียณ ที่ชอบวางแผนก่อนมีคู่มีครอบครัว คนที่มีลูกง่ายโดยไม่วางแผนก็มีเกลื่อน คนที่มีพร้อมทั้งฐานะทั้งวัยวุฒิที่อยากมีกว่าจะมีก็วัยห่างกับลูกจนอาจอยู่ไม่ทันรุ่นหลานอีก..
My parents had my brother and I. Both worked full time so hired 1-2 full time helpers (nanny and housekeeping responsibilities). And my mom had friends that were more well-to-do, so she took on debt to keep up appearances. Why would I do that to myself?
Sounds so burdensome.
Thailand is not considered a migrant society so having migrant workforce like Singapore is still uncommon. So far, migrant workers are restricted to labour intensive occupations that Thais don't want to do. Maybe welcoming more migrants could be a solution, at least short term at least ???
Burmese onto construction site would beg to differ
Then how can the countries of those emigrants develope if the more developed countries steal their highly educated citizens?
Migration is not the solution but just shifts the problem from one place to another.
The solutions are automation, AI, tax decreases for each child you have, using workforce more efficiently and fighting against nonsense jobs and maybe even developing a socitey system that does not base on constant growth, which is not possible anyway, but that takes a stagnating population size into account. Humans can be creative.
It's a extremely Xenophobic country, that's not going to happen
@@tosche774 That's exactly what's happening to my country, Philippines. It is called brain-drain. Where the most talentented and skilled workforce go abroad and only few talented people are left to develop the country. This year, my brilliant aunt who is a teacher will go to the U.S to teach because the salary there is way higher. It's quite sad but I am hopeful to my country because we have strong economic growth and our life conditions seem to be improving. Best of luck to Thailand! ❤
@@juno3189don't over exaggerated it and drag the whole country to this imprudent opinion of yours
Thailand is a wonderful country with wonderful people. 💟☮️. I visit one a year from the USA and we just love it there.
But it is obvious that people are not paid enough and it can be a real struggle - I think that that is by far, the primary reason for the birth rate is declining ☮️💟
I didn't even know Thailand had such a problem.Kudos to the people to waking up and realizing that having kids is not mandatory.Better than my country where people are excess.
Having lived in Thailand I have observed its one of the safest countries for women to live in. One of the reasons for gender equality is women outnumber men. Definitely a fast growing economy fueled by tourism.
Fast growing? Its dismal 1.9% growth last year put Thailand at the bottom of SEA league table. Thailand is stuck in the middle income trap for decades. Just look at its delapidate, rusty and abandoned houses dwarfed by high rises to know what happens when you are old and still poor. No country dver gets rich through tourism. Moving up the value chain is a prerequisite.
Lol..thailand economic growth is so low compared to others southeast asia countries...
Women outnumber men in almost every country on this planet.
If Thailand is a safe country then it is because its a Buddhist country.
Other Buddhist countries are also very safe e.g. Taiwan, Japan and so on.
@@tosche774 someone sees thru
Cambodia, Laos, Myanmar are also budha countries
@@tosche774
This is more and more important as companies and countries look to Thailand as an alternative to China. If it takes 10 years to fully build a factory, manufacturing plant, processing plant, etc. complete with supply and logistical hubs, then countries and companies are literally counting how many 4- to 10-year-olds running around: They will be the 14- to 20-year-olds that will be working and/or learning to work when everything is built. Thailand, China, Singapore, Japan and much of Europe are just the canary in the coal mine to what EVERYONE will be experiencing over the next 30 years including the USA.
Correct....Capitalism does not work well in a permanently shrinking economy.
GDP growth that comes with population growth doesn’t mean much, because for example if your GDP growth is below population growth, an individual’s quality of life would still be falling. You need to grow and improve the quality of life for the existing people in the country…which Thailand government in the last 2 decades failed to do so.
I lived in thailand many years. I have no clue about birth rate stuff. But what i know is that i have known 4 young people (17-25 years) wehre have died from hart atacks. I have never met anyone in a other country dieing in this age from stuff like that. But maybe its just a cooincidence.
Probably another set of coincidences from the "Safe & Effective".
I REALLY WISH Islamic countries like Bangladesh 🇧🇩 and Pakistan 🇵🇰 or the countries of Africa would follow this example.
Bangladesh has a fertility rate of 1.9. Use Google, their fertility rate is below replacement level now.
@@user-jt3dw6vv4x That’s a VERY RECENT PHENOMENON. What was going in the past one hundred years? Bangladesh is already one very most densely populated countries in the world. Also, about Pakistan? What about most of Sub-Saharan Africa?
@@1525boy Are you always this bitter and unable to accept when you are wrong? You complain about Bangladesh having high fertility and then I tell you that Bangladesh now has below replacement fertility but you're still complaining. Stop complaining!
@@user-jt3dw6vv4x Are you always in denial? Bangladesh probably finally got their population under control because there is no room for their people to live. It’s the most densely populated country in the world. What took them so long?🤔
You wish?
Thailand is going to need to "welcome" foreign workers.
More old people/Less working force.
Singaporean are tired from foreign workers and Japanese society refuse them.
Too much/not enough children is the same thing: it's a trap.
Such is the cost of education, young people have now become more aware of the risks when bearing children and starting a family is no longer considered as an achievement
As a working adult in my thirties, and now single, the idea of having a baby begins to fade away as time goes by. In my previous relationship, I remember having many conversations with my ex-girlfriend about whether we should have kids, but we never really had a clear answer for that. Though my job in Bangkok is quite stable with a decent salary, still I have to carefully plan ahead for my savings, investments (if possible), and how much I would be able to afford life after retirement. There is no pension like my parent's generations despite working in a governmental sector. Being a public servant no longer guarantees this. (That's part of the new policy I believe). Now, the idea of having kids doesn't even come to my mind, let alone being in any serious relationship. My priorities now are being as debt-free as possible (not buying a house or a condominium, or even a car), so I'm planning to rent a room close to my workplace. After retirement, I most likely go back to my hometown where I grew up.
Honestly speaking I prefer lesser population more than over population. Look at Philippines, Bangladesh.. Not even enough rice to feed own people. 😅😅😅
Not even enough rice to feed own people?
When was the last famine who killed millions of people in Bangladesh and Philippine???
Stop BS😊
Thailand and Malaysia has the same fate. The system is still not functioning forward ⏩.
Look at tourism and gas production a lot but it's economy is slowing. corruption is blatant, it's economy is run by oligarchs.
Indonesia, Philippines and Vietnam are correcting it's system and move forward.
I think we hopeless
Even in Indonesian 🇮🇩 brith rate drop from
2.22 in 2020
2.21 in 2021
2.18 in 2022.
Go to 2.14 in 2023
The different is Malaysia going to be high income nation in 5 years, while Thailand still stuck in middle income.
@@peaceofmind7390Malaysia And Thailand Will have same fate,Significant Dropping Economy Cause Low Birthday Rate And High Household Debt
Maybe you’re talking about the birthrate of Malaysian Chinese and Indian. The Malays have no problem giving birth and have children - most of my Malay friends are married and have 2-3 children the least. And they love children so they never see the children as burden but certain things must be sacrificed. They send their children to public school, no overseas vacation, dual income and certainly not as well off as the Chinese and Indians here.
@@custommadeheartAlso largely because Malays are Muslim, and large families are valued a lot more among Muslims than among Buddhists for instance
It is amazing to me how people are trading their standard of living ahead of building a family.
It's the big issue confronting us.how we' ll manage and struggle these problems.
Good government policies or ourselves lifestyles?