Venus Updates: Strange Flashes, Atmospheric Life and 85000 Volcanoes
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Hello and welcome! My name is Anton and in this video, we will talk about recent discoveries from our neighbor Venus
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0:00 Venus intro
0:45 Plate tectonics? Probably not but...
1:55 It used to have active geology before
3:00 Could there be life here now?
4:05 How life could actually survive there
5:40 Strange flashes on Venus
9:35 1000s of volcanoes and some still active?
11:00 Squishy surface
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She's got it. Yeah, baby. She's got it!
I think the geology and chemistry of Venus is interesting enough without having to resort to the search for life as justification for going there!
Unfortunately funding is limited and this could help get missions paid for.
Agreed 💯. Temperature is a problem for a maned mission though.
Welp, too bad you don’t run the funding agency
@@ReinReadsironically deployment of airship type probe to Venus be easier than landing on mars.
Agreed. We should start working on terraforming Venus as soon as possible, as well. Something like Kurtzgesagt’s outlined plan. Low-ish tech, but multi-generational.
The archean extremophile, Picrophilus, can survive in a pH of 0.5. But the Venusian atmosphere has a pH of -1.2. You'd think that, if organisms could survive such acidity, we'd find them on Earth, maybe in Ethiopia's Dallol salty hot springs. Life is found there around the edges but not in the most extreme pH zones.
Also something that shouldnt be forgotten; we have these extremophiles on earth because on earth life had a chance to evolve to all possible places. This promotes complexity very much. I doubt that in such restricted conditions life would be able to do much.
Also completely different environments.. so evolution and stuff, you know?
Is the Ph in Venuss atmosphere constant on different altitudes or might there be a gradient?
@@RALL123456 Good question.
@@straa8upits not magic
The universe never ceases to amaze me.
You never cease to amaze the universe 🤣
@@gilesleonard6876 touche 😂
Anton & Venus, the lovestory continues 😀😉
I've always been fascinated by the enigmas of Venus, so I'm glad it's finally getting the attention it deserves again.
I remember reading an article that says that there are particles in the atmosphere that absorb light. However, these particles are exactly the same size as bacteria.
extremophiles?
That's true, you're referring to the UV absorbers that remain a mystery today! Now, there are a lot of _things_ that size that aren't related to life, so of course it could still end up being a coincidence, but if it isn't a coincidence, then the biggest hint that Venus has life has been known, and been staring us in the face for decades. That's definitely worthy of further study lol.
Very interesting. Thin crust, hot core due to the pounding it's taking, leading to volcanism without plate tectonics. Very believable as the volcanoes there seem to be everywhere, and without pattern. Too bad it doesn't have a moon to suck up a lot of the projectiles. Might be a different place. Thanks again Anton, for making my brain do things. Cheers man!
Its interesting that one massive projectile name Theia gave Earth her moon to protect from countless smaller projectiles. Makes me wonder what would happen if we could throw Mars at Venus.
Let's just park a few asteroids in it's orbit and see what happens.
@zrath67
You leave Venus alone!
It's thought that Venus's proximity to the Sun (and maybe Mercury?) is enough to prevent it from keeping any moon for sustained periods.
Venus does like a good pounding
You never disappoint me with your videos always well explained but easy to understand and fun to watch! Thank you for all your videos and work!
I'm a big Venus guy. Love these updates. Thank you Anton
I'm a little Earth guy. Greetings.
You think Venus could be globally cooled and sped up to 24 hour rotation. And 2 to 3 Atmospheres air pressure breathable mix ever be done ?
@@thomas.parnell7365 We will have to adapt to Mother Venus, she is powerful but wants us to survive
I'm so excited that this hypothesis is still gaining some ground, Venus is absolutely facinating!
Very interesting, Anton. We seem to live in a perfect place in our solar system. One neighbor is more hostile than the next. It certainly seems that Venus is as worthy of exploration as Mars. Thank you for this update!
Thanks!
As another day closes I am anticipating the cheerful greeting from the most diversely informed human on the planet! Thank you so much❤
Thinking of us being here as the children of light = lightening ❤
They taught us in school that Venus has a surface temperature that can melt lead
Its surface pressure is 90 atmospheres.
Venus may not have had Earth-type lightning, but what about the lightning that is associated with volcanic eruption?
Earth have lightning volcanoes. We have different atmosphere but the way that lightning ignite is the same.
@@xristos2141981 Incorrect! Lighting is not the same for every planet, yes some conditions need to be met, but the method it can be different.
You'd still detect that via radio waves. All lightning gives off radio emissions.
Moving charge or electricity through planets is the cause of volcanic eruptions. We can witness looping from volcano to volcano on earth. Which is why you have several eruptions going on at the same time, and why we see lightning. There is also lightning before major earthquakes.
My background image is of volcanic lightning :)
Thank you anton very cool 🌈 ❤
When I was a kid I would turn on AM radio during storms to listen to the lightning crackle and whizz. It’s a neat effect!
Thank you fir everything.quality videos. Hope you and your team are also getting rest .
slightly different light? understatement of the year!! wow!!
Thanks Anton! 😊
Excellent stuff! Thank you for the videos!
Thank you for all the great work
Cannot wait for those missions coming up!
I’ve picked up radio waves from lighting in my truck before. Only big, close lightning strikes will do it, but it’s a little cool. Flash of static at the same time a flash of lightning happens.
Really fascinating👍
Love your content Anton.❤
Anton it’s marvellous that you make this content every day. Awesome. I’m pleased to be a long term Patreon supporter of your channel
Great excellent capture of Venus research.
Thanks Anton….you are such a hard worker.
thank you.. liked and shared
Fascinating!
Ironic the planet is so close and we have so much to learn about Venus.
Wonderful as always Anton. Thank you. 🙂👍
What is interesting about Venus is it has no magnetic field like the Earth does. Earth's magnetic field originates from the circulation of molten material inside its core. Apparently, Venus has no such movement which gives question about having any plate tectonics. Venus generates its magnetic field from the interaction of the Sun’s solar wind with the planet’s ionosphere, the region filled with charged atoms. Those charged atoms create electric currents. As the solar wind interacts with Venus’ atmosphere, it produces a chaotic but full-fledged magnetosphere around the planet. How it produces radio waves from reconnecting magnetic lines is a curious thought. Venus’ magnetosphere forms a “tail,” or a magnetotail. Is this induced magnetosphere falling apart at distance the source of the radio waves?
Also interesting is that planets do not require a magnetic field to maintain an thick atmosphere. So this says something about Mars as well. That the Martian atmosphere has mineralyzed in it surface instead of being stripped away by the solarwind due to lack of magnetic field strength.
@@Roel922 good points makes you wonder say if mars was geologically alive until say 1 billion years ago would it still have a thin bit able to support surface water atmosphere ripe foe surveying or terraforming
very cool!
She's got it! Yah, baby She's got it..😅😂😅
I'm still not throwing out lightning radio pulses on Venus. Lightning exists on the other terrestrial planets (including Mars in a way) and all the gas giants. Hence, lightning is quite a common atmospheric phenomena.
Wow atmosphere life, This video will be worth watching for sure
I think we should rename Venus to Bespin and build a cloud city there 😂
But it don't be spinning fast though
The excellent Cool Worlds YT channel has just released a good video on Venus as well.
Interesting. Regular meteor impacts might well seed the upper atmosphere of Venus with the minerals needed to support life. That's the real problem w/ high altitude life thriving, getting it the heavy stuff. Unlike earth, the atmosphere of Venus is like soup. The chunky kind.
The atmosphere of Venus is wild, counterintuitive. A few years back NASA asked for concepts for a non-electronic Venus surface image/data transmission system. I did a bit of homework and was shocked at how dense, viscous, and toxic the atmosphere is at the surface. I did work up a concept but ran out of time, but the project taught me that conditions on Venus are nothing like you might be imaging. they are far, far more challenging.
Holy Whistler's Mother, Batman! 🦇
After hearing how many times Lightning may strike on venus in a year I had to look up that same fact on earth and if I didn't experience daily life here on earth I would find that fact scary as hell.
very cool and good
TY Anton for showing us that the ancient Greeks were right. Venus is hot! 🔥
Must be getting old...Bananarama came instantly to mind after reading that. 😂
How do you manage to make such interesting videos day after day? I’m amazed👍👌😉✌️
Great video, Anton! I especially like when you cover my second-favorite planet. (My favorite is Earth. 😀) I’m old enough to remember the Pioneer Venus missions in the late ‘70s and I remember hearing about how much lightning they thought was happening. I also remember during the Magellan mission how it was thought that there was no platonic activity. So, it’s great to see scientists are still analyzing the data and revising their initial conclusions. In other words, I love seeing science in action.
I also can’t wait for the upcoming Venus missions from NASA, ESA, Space Lab, and others (e.g., ISRO).
My least favourite is earth, lol.
nice
Ok so.........an Aero-Extremophile living in the atmosphere, but best case scenario for life, Tardigrades with wings ?
The 1,000 volcano picture ... I think I found Waldo!
If you haven't seen it yet, Cool Worlds made a video on Venus recently.
models for carbon dioxide traps heat . It seems it would trap heat both ways. Venus has a 90% reflection rate. And singing the wrong way would generate heat plus venus had more heat to trap being closer to the sun.
Energy is transferred from the atmosphere down to the surface and beyond, making Venus expand.
Thanks for your hard everyday work!!
Awsome
Thank you Anton Petrov for this very interesting video on our sister planet Venus.
Nice :)
How cool it would be to float over Venus in a kind of airship, doing research and wondering about that strange world under your feets. *sigh* unfortunately not for me, but may be I will be still here when this kind of mission will finally be possible.
So if I am hearing you right, there is some possibility of a bacteria that has evolved completely outside of earth’s influence living inside the upper reaches of Venue’s atmosphere. I am getting a queazy feeling that it would be a terrible idea to bring anything that has had even the most minute exposure to said atmosphere to earth. 🤔
It would likely die instantly, oxygen is a very reactive element that life here had to evolve to tolerate.
@@Rastamahatma I appreciate the perfectly logical explanation, thank you! Still going to think about it with unnecessary details and possible horrific consequences though. Some sort of mold spore maybe? It will probably be some sort of symbiotic reaction to any like molecules and learn how to use its properties to either feed on or hunt with. Maybe it gets into the water 😱 and pees!!
@@nikkistowe8837Every pathogen on earth has evolved to infect earth organisms. The chances that a non terrestrial virus or bacteria could affect anything on earth is pretty slim. But never say never!
@@nikkistowe8837 I think it’s less of a ‘likely would die instantly’ and more of a ‘almost certainly would die instantly’.
May be life is more likely to exist in the mountains on Venus .. since it's cooler and the atmosphere is lighter. For example, Skadi Mons is a mountain on Venus in Maxwell Montes, at the center of Ishtar Terra. It is the highest point of the planet with an altitude of about 10,700 meters (about 35,000 feet) above the mean planetary radius.
That would be such an interesting planet! One with life concentrated in the mountains.
The scale height for venus is 16km, so at that altitude it would still be a good 30 atmospheric pressures and the temperature seems to be about 350°C
how would it get water
Hey Anton, Thanks for sharing this excellent video❤. Are you aware of any experiments in LEO (on ISS) to simulate plate tectonics? One could imagine a layered sphere floating in microgravity while being tested on cooling and other factors simulating martian, earthly or venus like conditions? What do think. Is such an experiment even possible ?
Venus is a morning star for me, i fixate walking to work at 6am
Fascinating video.. the impact theory and core heating seems to make sense. I have another question, Anton, would the dense Venusian atmosphere absorb most or all of the kinetic energy of the smaller to medium size projectiles? How much more mass and kinetic energy would it take to actually impact the surface of Venus? .. and how frequent to cause a cataclysmic surface event and, heat up the planet core? ! The Earth's moon for example has no atmosphere, (and a denser crust) and heavily cratered.
Venus is so bright in the morning and is so beautiful. I think the Bible refers to it as the bright morning star. Jesus is also referred to as the bright morning star. So cool to see your video. Venus is very interesting.
And funnily enough, someone else shares that name- the fallen one, Lucifer Morningstar...
@@oijosh6286 oh yes! I know! Strange how he likes to imitate Jesus. 😉
Lightning causing life? So, lifening?
Oh man. Can't wait for the Venus mission now. If we find life 50 miles up in Venus's sulfuric atmosphere it will permeate the Solar System & Universe.
Wow, atmospheric life? I must see this video. Right?
Take a shot every time Anton says “a lot of” 😂😂😂
Venus gets even more interesting.
I wonder if Earths impact with Thea may have kept active, or even started the plate tectonics on Earth.
❤❤❤Anton much live to you and family❤❤❤
I believe Earth would be like Venus is today had Theia not impacted it. Theia has allowed Earth to be active for far longer than it naturally would of been IMHO. Theia "stirred the pot" so to say.
There once was a study on Venus....
I'm not clever enough to make a limerick about Venusian science without using certain words 😢 I hope others smarter than I can complete the lyrics...
There once was a study of Venus,
From the days when their land was the greenest.
But they soon were distraught,
‘Cause the planet got hot.
Goes to show carbon gas is the meanest.
I don’t expect this to get many likes compared to the original comment that was HILARIOUS and way more witty than I’ll ever be.
There once was a study on Venus
That talked about plates unseen to us
But floating in the clouds
Life just might abound
But will sink if it evolves a big Penus
That proved green men had seen us
Though take with a pinch
of salt, not a Grinch
coz Venus's data is all Sus.
Need another beer..
There once was a study on Venus
Which found her to be quite heinous
She was hotter than Hell
And she wore her clouds well
Though her rank sulfur stench made us squeamish
The pressures and heat make it so much easier for the magma to ooze to the surface it won’t be explosive because of the 92 var pressure at the surface that’s nearly 1300 psi
Fascinating information, great presentation, thanks👍😊
Thank you wonderful Anton.
There's been strange flashes on Mars in the last week too
I have continental plates. I also got some cups from Asia and a set of bowls down in Africa. Where I bless the rains.
Thanks Anton, I love your presentations!
I thought that Venus does not have it's own magnetic field.
Without this protection, would the atmosphere not be slowly stripped away by the solar wind, like it has for Mars?
I would love for you do do a presentation on this topic as well, pretty please.
As to the increased risk/rate of meteorite impacts on Venus, does that mean that the possibility of setting up cloud cities on the planet may not be as feasible as some scientist have though?
Because Venus is much closer to the Sun, it get more solar winds that strip more of the atmosphere than our planet, but if my memory is correct, Venus magnetosphere is little less than ours.
So good to see a scientist who is not pretending it's all "settled science" with just a couple of things "we don't fully understand". In fact we been fed a bunch of speculative BS pulled out of the ether ( to be polite ) and presented as established fact. Just like with Jupiter when we got near enough with actual instruments , it turns all guesses and affirmation upside down. I really appreciate Anton's down to Earth approach to astronomy.
I told you Venus internally heated
Receiving 91% more solar radiation than Earth does not help.
Whoa, when you said snapping magnetic lines, my alarm bells start ringing a full blast! No way that such a slow rotating object will have 100k snaps of the magnetic lines! To have that you need speed and size, because entanglement of those line need at least those 2 attributes....
Lightning can be heard on AM bands.
@1:39 I hope people know that Venus does not rotate that fast. One Venus solar day lasts one third of an Earth year! Not to mention the sun rises in the West! If there was any way to get it to spin faster so one day is 24 hours, I wonder much how things would be different.
To do that you need to find a way to reduce the heat and the carbon monoxide and others that trap the heat in the planet, then you need to find a way to reverse it spin (because Venus spin is retrograde) and accelerate in the other way. No chance in hell we can do that in 1000 years a least, if not more... And I am Very HOPTIMISTIC here....
I still can’t believe we have images from the surface.
What if we find no life on Venus, Mars, Saturn, Jupiter and their moons? When do we finally decide to respect the life around us?
I hope you are okay Anton! I love your content!
Another great video Anton.
Interesting new data. Using Occam's razor, I doubt there is any life in Venus' atmosphere. If life ever evolved on Venus, how would it ever get into the clouds? Especially if the planet heated up fairly quickly, being closer to the sun. There are many reasons to learn more about Venus, but we have to get over the idea that we might find life there or could perhaps terraform the planet when we ruin Earth. Venus has always fascinated me, and I hope I'm still alive (I'm 73 now) when our marvelous space probes visit this planet again.
We're talking about life on another planet with different composition so it makes sense that there could be life up there.
Live long and prosper Anton.
Tectonic bombardment? (yes its wrong in all sorts of ways but sounds intriguing)
It is definitively shame past efforts to study it had so many technical issues.
But at least we are catching up with where we could have been in terms of knowledge.
Peek under Venu's skirt of clouds and see the wonderland of fire... i guess any space agency? please?
LOVE.THIS 👑 ❤
We should seed Venus' atmosphere 😊
Plate Tectonic in my opinion are more important to release trapped gasses back, by volcanism. Having volcanism w/o plate tectonics release gas, but also basic materials, able to capture CO2. No recycling = more binding, less atmospheric one. Venus probably always was too hot to have proper sedimentation of Carbonate, maybe also the lava composition is less effective, as CO2 sequester. And so with or without plate tectonics, Volcanoes pump gas up, but not a lot is bound be weathering.
Great video, Anton...👍
What about the robotic chemist in China using A.I.
The robot recently went through 3+ million combinations to find the best way to create oxygen from the minerals that are already abundant on Mars. I thought that was fascinating.
I don't trust anything the Chinese government says. They routinely make false claims for propaganda reasons
There could be life in the Venusian lithosphere, but if it were like Earth life, it would need water or dilute sulfuric acid. It would be hyperthermophilic, acidophilic, and barophilic. Our tree of life is hyperthermophilic/extremophilic at the root and as the Earth cooled life spread to the cooler niches. There might be microbes in the Venusian atmosphere, but chances are we won't find life there in the cooler regions. It just didn't have time to spread everywhere and adapt to the cooler spots.