"Connections Like This Cause Leakage To Earth"| Electrical Fault Finding| Electrician In London
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- čas přidán 10. 02. 2021
- In this video I'm called out to tripping cooker circuit.
Customer original had an issue with the cooker buttons
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I love Delroy how he explained everything to every customer wish there was more Sparks like him
I was a Sparks for years and I really think this Guy knows the business.
I'm a US master electrician, but I love your client- service relationships. Absolute professionals.
This is a good example of why I sometimes do my own electrical repairs as a USA homeowner. I would have cleaned the wall, opened a container of drywall compound to smooth out the wall, sand it and then paint it. And I would replaced the receptacle/cover with a new one and verify that the breaker was properly sized for the appliance. It would have taken hours but I would have felt better knowing that a hidden area of my kitchen was neat and tidy. You can't expect a repair person to do all that at a reasonable price.
Another great video Delroy!
Nice one Delroy. Close attention to detail is often the difference between an average result and a really good result. Enjoying the videos and have subbed.
1:05 My OCD is triggered by the crooked outlets.
Over here regulations don't allow an extra outlet of the cooker group. They have to be separate for heavier appliances.
Good video Delroy fault finding is key 🙌🏾
As an auto electrician of 40 years experience i cant believe the standard of some installations of 240v appliances thats looks like a potential fire to me as many have said leave it to the professionals great video well presented
Problem is the registered professionals! Every single one we've had in our house in last 7 years has been sloppy despite being recommended. one wired up oven to wrong mcb, loose fitting, got earth leak. Only diligent sparks have been qualified but not registered. Diyer going by book has time to do it properly, especially if built up good set of tools, ferrules, crimps, cables, Wago kits, over years. Even when I installed boxes and 25mm conduit everywhere, so they only had to feed cable and wire up the sockets, they still did sloppy work that came loose
That’s why it says, should be installed by qualified electrician! Good vids
Nice one delroy 👍👍
Cheers pal
Thanks for sharing, I have found that too many don't use the right size cable connection to the cooker!
well done . keep up the videos
Thank you robbie
Brilliant thanks same cooker
When it didn't trip the first time you should of said "that'll be £250 please love" 😂
I fixed it from the van...
Probably cost her that anyways
Nice job Delroy. I'm on my first year in learning to be an electrician, would it help if you crimped a connection to get a perfect bond in the Back of the oven
Never really understood why they make these terminals so tough to connect to. At least this ones got some space, half of the ones I go to are about 50mm x 30mm plastic connection boxes. Love the new pre wired ones 👍
the click double outlet plates are a lot more spacious. even if you don't need one.
veri nice sir
Twin and earth cable is intended for fixed wiring - this is a common mistake made in connecting cookers.
As someone else has commented H07 is the correct cable type to make a final connection to a cooker.
Hi del great video once again one question can you not use ring crimp connectors to the circuit
I had a fault with a cooker which kept tripping RCD, earth leakage? Done the usual IR testing and all ok, in the end the fault was with the cooker outlet plate, poor quality one and it looked ok but that was the problem, swapped it for an MK and worked fine ever since.
Del can you do a van tour for us?
I remember Jayne and her faulty cooker this ones a long running job
Delroy you're the best! I have a question though does rcd reads loose connection as current leakage then ?
We had a few appliances blow in the kitchen, specifically the toaster and fridge, I thought it was down to old appliances, so bought a new inverter fridge and the electricity bill was still sky high, long story short, found 2 neutral cables not even screwed into the back of a socket, how the ring/plugs in the kitchen where working still baffles me to this day.
Working as two "radial"
Nice
Fucking hell I don't know what's worse. That red paint or the state of their gaff 🤢
Is the neutral insulation damaged just by the cable grip in the cooker? Those intermittent faults are a pain!
You beat me to it!
Yeah I thought that, think I would have pulled the cable out and started again. Special screwdriver just looks like either torq screwdriver or hex. Either way should be in the toolbag...
Yes ur right its look like 👍
I was about to say the same thing. I’d imagine the button fault heated the earth wire up and melted neutral wire causing the trip, the previous engineer pulled it apart thus clearing the fault.
Dealt with a few RCD tripping issues for neighbours and friends that were down to neutral>earth shorts on equipment.
One that particularly bugs me was a neighbour who reported that every time the 'fridge cut in the RCD would trip. Pulled the fridge out and tested it, no issues. Suggested a cup of tea but was told the kettle had stopped working that morning and the penny dropped. The element had gone short to earth and taken out the plug fuse but it was still on its base and plugged into a single-pole switched socket. Unplug it and no more RCD tripping when the 'fridge cut in. Daughter arrived with a new kettle while I was there.
Not sure how the regs work in the UK because in Ireland the cooker circuit is on it's own independent 32Mcb circuit.. I'm surprised to see a socket being looped into the cooker circuit,that would of been the first thing to be removed.
didnt fancy lugging it delroy ;)
H07 cable is more suitable for this application, twin and earth is designed for fixed installations. The neutral was damaged at the cable clamp which would definitely cause earth leakage tripping the RCD.
Do you mean th neutral directly in the back of the cooker?
@@memejest , it's been a while since I watched the video but the neutral had chaffed on the rear panel by the cable clamp, you could tell when he had moved the neutral. H07 is the correct cable for this application.
@@colinfenton ok thanks
@@colinfenton definitely back of cooker you was talking about
Reckon cooker is blowing out steam from its oven outlet over the sockets causing the rcd to trip...the outlets are full of cooking oil.... Just a thought
By checking the ccu circuit it clears the electrician as we are not appliance engineers
Whys my man not getting more views/subs to compared other sparks channels 😬
1:12 when we plug in appliance with 13A plug into 40A circuit and all is OK so why to bother about 32A ring main and all the regs anyway. This makes no sense.
Electricians can do this with their eyes shut, but i wouldn't advise it!! classic.
4mm HO7 flexi would of done and easier to connect.....?
I'm still surprised appliances still use those open screw-down terminals.
"the fault lies not within our stars but within ourselves"
it was the neutral crushed together with the cpc in the flex grip , missed it delroy .
I think he fixed it without realising.
I'm not a sparky, do you mean the neutral sleeve caught by the screw? If not, just wondering what the issue was
@@wob2850 At the end 10:10 you can see a split in the neutral insulation where it had been trapped in the grip.
@@stepbackandthink wondering if the connection plate is what's digging into that neutral?
I'd do a test with a pat tester to check the cooker if I did not have any tester I'd disconnect the cooker connect a socket and put a load on it if this checked out I'd know it was the cooker at fault if it still tripped the cooker sw would be at fault I've done this many a time apart from del Roy 's diagnosis
Nice one delroy
Surprised you didn't remove the double socket spurred of the cooker connection unit
As it doesn't comply with BS 7671. Good job though mate thank you for the fab videos
He can advise it.... but if they won't pay for extra work he could be there all day fixing similar fails.
@@tomorichard . I’m curious as to what “adiabatic equation “ is in regards to electricity is. “We” applied adiabatic correction to A/ Craft airspeed back in the old days but never hear mention of it nowadays.! It was one of about 20 corrections , all I’ve long forgotten ,
The socket is compliant. It's often installed for where a single oven is installed or a gas hob with ignitor. No problem at all
You can get some strange faults on appliances eg fridge freezers tripping the rcd you disconnect and everything works fine until you plug in the ff and sw on and it trips again I could go how this was diagnosed but it's not about a ff is it
Use spade crimps on the ends. The only way to get a perfect connection that doesn't loosen itself over time.
thinking the same i do it on 10 gauge(6 mm) or larger but single core is still very common in the states so dont use them tht often
I just love working behind cookers.... mmmm lots of grease keeps my hands soft.
Makes dogs give you that "you look tasty" look though
Can bootlace terminals used for high draw home applications?
Yes, of course. I actually used boot laces on the strands when I connected my stove (which looks almost identical to the connection block in this video). Spade connectors would have been even better though.
The cooker supply on the kitchen ring main is where your fault is
A lot of information is obtained by watching your video......
I also want to learn work. Will you help me, I live in India and have been doing electrician jobs here for the last 12 to 13 years.
Shouldn't there be sleeves around those fine stranded wires ? But I like your solution !
Here in Germany, wire end sleeves are mandatory for fine-stranded cables under such screw terminals.
How did got price that job?
would 6mm copper lugs been better on the cooker connection. the cpc is obviosly not 6mm2
You should of got the customer to Russell up a full breakfast for you on the cooker to test it... sausage egg bacon Tom's hash brown beans chips and plug the toaster in the socket to make some toast to test it and try kettle as well.😀
Who's Russell
@@kerryman9589 a man with no arms and legs being tossed around the ground in the fall winds lol
@@wizard3z868 it must be the same Russell my wife's knows she always get him to cook my food I never seen him tho
@@kerryman9589
A man with a load of leaves on his head
European electricians deal with MK equipment and have 220 Branch circuits
How much do u charge n hr?
At least that cooker had a decent terminal block- I hate the small black ones that seem to be getting more popular ☹️
Thanks for sharing your views
Am I the only idiot that is always using the appropriate wire termination? i.e. an insulated ring terminal in this case, and ferrules at the other end; a few pence extra for peace of mind as well as a neat looking job.
Well this electrician is honest. If I called one that loose connection would have cost me a thousand pounds.
Next time call an electrician, not a hooker.
I like your CZcams can you make the valuem higher
Thanks for the feedback
Delroy where abouts do you buy your work jackets from buddy ??
Marks & Sparks
@@dazednconfused31337 electrifying
I would have fitted crimp ring connector orcrimp fork
What lies beneath! Horror show behind cooker.
Not sure the size of that oven , as there are plenty fan ovens that just plug in to a 13 amp socket .. and I have been to loads were kitchen fitters have fitted 10m cable to a oven that only plugs in .. there fore cable strands cut off to fit which is poor work if the cooker is rated fir 6m or 10m ( I allways fit 10m) then it should be on its own surpply. No sockets added to it ..you should allways use 10m to the cooker switch today as no one knows what size of cooker someone might buy ,
Wall sockets not level does my head in.
That’s because most kitchen fitters live on a side of a hill!
That wall looks like the side of a hill!!
What did you do with the 2.5 in the spur?
Technically there's nothing wrong with it.
A John Lewis £90 connection 😂⭐️🥸
that oven should of been on a 20 amp circuit
It's a fixed load, so 433.3.1 is relevant
Then why did he connect it if he never tryed it
The manufacturer should really provide a better method of connecting the supply; I suppose it's all about making the appliance look pretty and not the engineering. The connections at the back of a typical UK socket use a much better method to fix the conductors.
Thanks for sharing your view
John Lewis chaps....haha ..nice job
11 min. It's NOT people connecting things thinking they know what they're doing. They know they don't know and they don't care and they don't think it matters and they know there will be no come back against them if it does go wrong. Weird thing is people even doing it in their own homes which they and their families live in
The easiest job in the trade
Why didn't she try it after lol
Terrible use crimp lugs as ANY electrician would know
If they touch it before me I automatically charge Double time and a half and only give 90 warranty instead of two years
Your problem stands out like a sore thumb ... if you aint spotted it go back to collage .
Go back to COLLAGE......maybe you should go back to school and learn to spell before commenting on other people.. COLLEGE