The MAM Journals- CFMOTO 650NK

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  • čas přidán 3. 07. 2024
  • When CFMOTO and KTM formed a joint venture in 2017 , it was always going to be an interesting one to watch . Chinese bikes have had the reputation of being very good value for money but with a tendency to fall apart in front of you .
    So , how did I find this 650 parallel twin ? What was it like to ride and what were my initial impressions on the build and component quality?
    Definitely a bike built to a price , and it shows, it is a competent bike. Is this one to consider , if it is within your target budget ?
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Komentáře • 46

  • @user-sw2lv3zp6o
    @user-sw2lv3zp6o Před 24 dny +3

    It's the 800NK that has grabbed my attention, especially the base model. An acquaintance in Chiang Rai, Thailand rode from China to England on an early CFMoto and didn't have one issue. I'd have one. Nick

  • @jeffturner2102
    @jeffturner2102 Před 22 dny +4

    I think its a nice looking bike!

  • @MickBoswell
    @MickBoswell Před 24 dny +4

    Nice review. I had the MT650 and covered over 7000 miles touring the UK. Not a single fault. For £4k who cares what you lose after the 4-year warranty is up.

    • @michaelmam
      @michaelmam  Před 24 dny +3

      @@MickBoswell If you can get 4 years good use out of the bike , it wont owe you much . Cheap transport .

  • @impreza99rs
    @impreza99rs Před 23 dny +1

    I’m not a fan of the bike however, your video is so well presented… I absolutely loved the narration during the ride around the country side. I enjoyed your video. Great work. 😎👍

    • @michaelmam
      @michaelmam  Před 23 dny +1

      @@impreza99rs Thank you . The bike , as you can tell by the comments isn’t everyone’s “cup of tea” and indeed is one of the reasons I cover bikes like this . Show it for it really is and let people make their own minds up .
      Glad you enjoyed the video and appreciate you taking the time to comment . Thank you .

  • @mikerider58
    @mikerider58 Před 23 dny +2

    Great review as usual Michael 👏
    I often wonder when l see bikes at this price level, are CF Moto/China and other budget companies based in India, simply trying to elbow their way to the top of an extremely lucrative world motorcycle market.
    I prefer to buy quality bikes second hand and I'm currently riding a beautiful 2011 Triumph bonneville 865 which cost me £2500, an absolute beauty 😍 l did buy it from a friend who did me a really good deal.
    Triumph make beautiful bikes.

    • @michaelmam
      @michaelmam  Před 23 dny

      @@mikerider58 Thanks Mike . I like Triumphs as well. They are designed in the UK but actually assembled in Thailand , using products made throughout the world , including China . The cost of manufacturing in the west is just too high to make anything but high value items . You can’t open a fridge door or put on a kettle without using something “made in China “ ?

  • @javierc2726
    @javierc2726 Před 23 dny +2

    The rain blurred your dashboard screen ;-)

    • @michaelmam
      @michaelmam  Před 23 dny

      @@javierc2726 It does that occasionally 😉

  • @kwakithailand
    @kwakithailand Před 23 dny

    My 👍 as well as comment are well deserved for your restless work, mate 👌

  • @jefflambert8603
    @jefflambert8603 Před 21 dnem +2

    I am Sure the C- F Moto 650 Engines
    Are Based on The Kawasaki ER 650
    Design. Its The NK 800 thats Based on the KTM that they also Build

  • @barryhughes1612
    @barryhughes1612 Před 24 dny +3

    £4000! how on earth can they produce, distribute, provide a four warranty and make a profit on what appears to be a very good value for money motorcycle. Bonkers!

  • @glenncaukill1320
    @glenncaukill1320 Před 24 dny +2

    Michael are you releasing a video on Yamaha xsr900gp soon , i think you mentioned it on a previous video

    • @michaelmam
      @michaelmam  Před 24 dny +2

      I have ridden one , I had a day at Donnington but sadly Stuart , who does the filming wasn’t available . Riding one again in August so will see if Stuart is available for that one 🤞

  • @jontyg9112
    @jontyg9112 Před 24 dny +1

    Nice put together video Michael. One wonders what the bike will be worth after four years. Not much me thinks😮

    • @michaelmam
      @michaelmam  Před 24 dny +1

      @@jontyg9112 I suspect that is fair . Equally if you spend 25K on a new bike you will have lost 4k on the day you registered it 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @kwakithailand
      @kwakithailand Před 23 dny +1

      ​@@michaelmamexactly 👍

    • @jontyg9112
      @jontyg9112 Před 23 dny +1

      Michael. Those more affluent bikers purchasing 25K bikes can easily write off a 4K depreciation. This bike is aimed at those budget bikers and they'll be left with very little in value at the end of four years.

    • @michaelmam
      @michaelmam  Před 23 dny +2

      @@jontyg9112 True . Equally if you can get 4 years out of one and it is worth a few hundred , it is still cheap transport ..

  • @ianhalliwell8604
    @ianhalliwell8604 Před 24 dny +2

    Another comprehensive review on a bike that's just OK but what do you expect for 4 grand, a Ducati sadly no. One comment i always make on most modern bikes and this is no exception is why oh why can't they put a decent front mudguard on, who likes trying to get all the crud off the radiator and engine. Not me or you i suspect Michael.

    • @michaelmam
      @michaelmam  Před 24 dny +1

      @@ianhalliwell8604 I agree . I suspect some would fit an extender to the bottom of the front mudguard to address it .
      I also agree on the price comment . It certainly felt like an OK bike and I suspect some will be tempted by the price point to have a brand new bike . I can understand that 👍

  • @bangkokbill4035
    @bangkokbill4035 Před 24 dny +2

    That 650 parallel twin engine is a copy of the Kawasaki engine I have in my 2017 Versys 650. The Versys engine produces 69BHP and returns over 60MPG. Why is the CF moto engine so much worse?

    • @feizo
      @feizo Před 23 dny +2

      It isn't. The 22 650nk actually had 71bhp but they detuned the engine starting from 23 to clear a path for their 450 platform.

    • @fabioboero123
      @fabioboero123 Před 17 dny

      My bike has 67hp measured on the dyno and is stock.

    • @michaelmam
      @michaelmam  Před 14 dny

      As I say in the video there were different numbers on the website to the numbers the dealer gave me . I went with the dealer supplied numbers . I personally have a Suzuki Vstrom which has c70 hp according to Suzuki . It feels quite a bit faster than the CF MOTO that I rode…

  • @stevecribbs9247
    @stevecribbs9247 Před 18 dny +1

    J Juan brakes are owned by Brembo.

    • @michaelmam
      @michaelmam  Před 18 dny

      @@stevecribbs9247 I heard that recently . 👍

  • @javierc2726
    @javierc2726 Před 23 dny +1

    My ktm rotors rust overnight if I don't dry them

    • @michaelmam
      @michaelmam  Před 23 dny

      @@javierc2726 I was expecting these to do the same but as you saw , they were fine .

  • @JamesMurphy-ry2mx
    @JamesMurphy-ry2mx Před 24 dny +2

    £4000 for this bike, sounds like economic warfare.

    • @michaelmam
      @michaelmam  Před 24 dny +3

      As I am sure you know , the western world is brimming with Chinese products or components installed in other countries products . The iPhone I am typing on is “Made in China” . They secure these contracts /sales on price 🤷🏼‍♂️
      Not everyone is comfortable dealing with them , which I respect, but I sense few seem prepared to pay more for goods from the more mature and developed markets ?

    • @Fractal379
      @Fractal379 Před 18 dny +1

      Or good value.

  • @davmanlop333
    @davmanlop333 Před 20 dny +1

    Why does this video feel like it's 20 years old 😂 weird 🤔

    • @michaelmam
      @michaelmam  Před 20 dny +2

      @@davmanlop333 The style and delivery . My videos have a beginning , a middle and an end . I also mostly use words you can find in a dictionary .. such old fashioned concepts 😂

    • @Fractal379
      @Fractal379 Před 18 dny +1

      @@michaelmam 🍺

  • @tomg6284
    @tomg6284 Před 24 dny +2

    I am looking for a new bike. I will not buy anything made in that country. The new tracer 9 is on the short list.

    • @michaelmam
      @michaelmam  Před 24 dny +1

      I reviewed the Tracer . Thought it was a very capable bike .. 👍

    • @jefflambert8603
      @jefflambert8603 Před 21 dnem +1

      I would say it's almost impossible
      To Not. Own Anything that was Made in
      China !! Mobile smartphone , Toaster.

    • @Fractal379
      @Fractal379 Před 18 dny

      " I will not buy anything made in that country." - I used to like Minimalism in my youth.

    • @nickoggy
      @nickoggy Před 5 dny +2

      Apart from the big 4 most bikes are produced in China now 🤣.
      Looks great bike other reviews rate this bike alot higher.

    • @michaelmam
      @michaelmam  Před 5 dny +1

      @@nickoggy I think it is a GREAT bike for £4000 . There are better bikes out there , but at significantly more money ..

  • @johnharris7353
    @johnharris7353 Před 24 dny +1

    Man that is an ugly bike. Not taking any pillions.

    • @michaelmam
      @michaelmam  Před 24 dny +4

      Beauty is in the eye of the beholder 😂 . I thought it was very KTM , which people tend to either like or not ?