Diesel Heater Fuel Pump: How to QUIET a Noisy Fuel Pump
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- Diesel Heater Fuel Pump: How to QUIET a Noisy Fuel Pump // The diesel heater fuel pump has a loud ticking sound when it’s operating that can be very noisy. Using a few of these tips and tricks including sound dampening and sound insulation will help quiet and silence the loud clicking sound on the 8kw chinese diesel heater. Follow these installation instructions to avoid the pump not working and error codes.
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Thank you guys so much for watching! Do you have any tips for making your diesel heater fuel pump more quiet?
why dint you just warp the pump in dyno mat than put dyno mat were your about to screw or bolt it to it will stake all the eco away
@@lawrence1986ify tried that. It didn’t work very well at all because the vibration transfers through the screw and into the frame.
Capt Hook is happy now no more ticking, arrrrr🤭😉 heehee🐊
replace the pump with an after market car fuel pump. All you need to know is the fuel pressure. Then regulate the new pumps pressure. Then... Quite, long lasting pump.
@@MrDozer120 thanks for the info!
He actually starts at 06:38. TL;DR version: he wrapped it with sound deadening wrap, insulation, and foam outside his van.
The hero we need. Thanks, man.
Thanks
Thanks you saved me watching it 😂😂
Thanks man, I was pulling my hair out listening to him going in circles.
Thanks for all the likes. Even after a year later, this long useless intro still pisses me off and wasted 7 minutes of my life just to see the quick answer covered under a few seconds.
Pretty good day, thank you! Same to you!
Thank you for your technical information.
GREETINGS from Johan D.
Belgium
Welcome! Thanks for watching
I have a 8K all in one Chinese diesel heater in my van the pump clicking Kind of sounds like a clock to me it actually puts me to sleep the sleep so far I've had the diesel heater for 3 years now no major problems
Nice! That’s a long time, how many hours would you guess?
@@madetoexplore I don’t know quite a bit I live in Canada so for 6 months out of the year I’m running the diesel heater
@@ExpediteTravels awesome!
when i first got my 8kw summer of 20 the first month i ran it i accidentally ran out of fuel one night after that i didn't hear it again till i just replaced the entire heater for $120 late jan. of 22 so i got about 3 winters out of it my main problem was bearings failing in fan motor it was from dust so use a furnace intake filter and this winter we have been seeing temps of -25f at night so its a hard working machine and anyone who is interested it puts out roughly 24,000 BTU's 100ml ph on low 250ml ph on high im heating a 26' class a
Nice! Thanks for the info
I've got one mounted in the generator bay in my fifthwheel. I'm off grid in North Bay, Ontario. I saw -29c a few times this year. I ues it to heat the bedroom in the nose of the trailer at nigh only. 10L(2.5Gal) is about 2-4 nights(8-10hours each) on a medium setting(2.6Hz -3.2Hz continuous) because the controller doesn't reach into the room. I dont mind the clicking, it's a trade off for the propane furnace($$$ and power hungry). Looking into a heat pump, I've got 1500w of solar with loans for another 250-500w. Batteries are the limiting factor. Lol
I always found the ticking noise kind of soothing.
That makes things much easier! Wish I could say that same haha
What BPM is best for you? Or what setting?
Ur a certified psychopath then. It cant send u insane if ur already insane lol
When mounting the pump under my van with the heater at floor level and feeding from the main fuel tank, I found that it's impossible to not break that 'upward flow' rule. I did some testing using the 4mm ID / 6mm OD silicone tube that comes with a lot of the kits and it always formed air bubbles that got trapped over time. I replaced my tube with nylon pneumatic tube which is safe for diesel (2mm ID / 4mm OD). It's so thin you can see the fuel being pushed along the tube with each pulse and it purges any air bubbles very quickly. It's too thin internally for any air bubbles to form and get stuck, even though the pipe snakes up and down around the underside of my van.
On a side note, if anyone is mounting the pump outside using the rubber bracket that comes with the heater kits, they perish so quickly. I've tried a few brackets and they lasted no more than six months each. I always tied some backup para cord around the pump in case it came loose when driving.
Thanks for the tips!
Accoustic chamber idea is a good one
That would work well!
I’m going to put mine in a sound proof box under the diesel tank on the exterior. 3 spring wraps on a dowel from one side to the other. It should dance as it pumps I think. I gotta do this soon as the cold is coming I gotta do the heater install this month.
Awesome! Good luck with the install 😄
How did you get on with a soundproof box. I tried this approach and actually amplified the sound of the pump DOH
Chees for the video 👍
Just a thought I used to work at home depot and the guys from roxol, and I believe it's changed. Its name used to come in and they do the demonstration of a really loud alarm and all they did was make a box line the box with rocks all safe and sound and the lead you could lift off so he could demonstrate how. Loud it would be and literally as soon as he put. The lid on this earpiercing sound was dead. Quiet just a little something you might want to try
Yeah I actually used to work at Rona a long time ago and we had the same example. I’m sure it would work great but I just didn’t have the space to build a wooden box inside my engine bay haha
try putting it in a small plastic storage box like you would use for lunch with some foam to support it away from the walls of the lunch box. then put it in another slightly larger box again with padding to support the first box. i think a load of foam ear-plugs would make a good packing for the second box.
Great idea! I bet that would work very well 👍
squirt some expanding foam in it
I haven’t fired up my heater yet but since I run rainstorm white noise when I sleep I can’t believe it can be enough to keep me awake.
Yeah these pumps can be pretty loud depending on where and how you install them.
Thanks
Welcome!
I would be interested in knowing how far away from the heater can you mount the pump. Did you extend the fuel line and does it affect anything. Great video. Cheers John from County Durham
Thanks John! I did actually extend my fuel line a couple feet. Didn’t effect anything at all for me tho
Very far. I've used all the fuel line and extended it to get the fuel tank on the side of my cabin. So about 7 meters is no problem at all, just takes longer to prime the first time.
These like most liquid pumps Push better than they Suck so closest to the supply the better and try and have a slight slope up wards.
Thanks, informative, but do you think the heater needs the pump if the separat tank is mounted 1m higher?
Gravity fed? Interesting idea, you could give it a shot and see but i I don’t think that it would work. I would be interested to see if it did though!
@@madetoexplore Doesn't the pump control the flow? Without it, he could flood the burner maybe
@@madetoexplore it's a metered pump. So it wouldn't work
What symtoms did you have when your pump died?
Mine just stopped, cant even prime it manualy. Pump still seems to have continuity but. Hmm ordered new pump hope it fixed it.
I got the error code for having low fuel and the pump wasn’t clicking anymore
should i buy a mini one or one with a tank inside?
I did it very simple to ours. Use a car radiator hose. I am into the automotive sector. So i could get one what perfectly fits around the pump. Only the connector part could not fit. Put at the other site whats is free another thick rubber hose into the bigger one so that a lot of the pump is covered with rubber. Big difference according old situation. You can hear it ofcourse but a huge difference than before and at a very comfy level. Think simpel……
Yep, that would work!
I was looking at that radiator hose solution as I am currently installing my kit. My only concern was the heat buildup from the pump. Whilst running should be fine but when you turn the heater off and pump its not working so no diesel cooling at that time but may have residual heat.
I have one in the cab of my pickup and I just used the stupid rubber thing and attached the pump with a 1/4" bolt to the frame and I can barely hear it over the fan. I guess a unibody van must transmit more sound due to not having a frame and rubber body mounts
Yeah that could be the case for sure!
Greeting from Ottawa.
You should watch John McK 47 videos.
He has made a great series on these heater.
Thanks! Yes I have watched quite a few of his videos and they are helpful.
Very helpful video! Please tone down the background music as it distracts tremendously!
I wish I could but unfortunately it’s to late. Thanks for watching!
Did you have any difficulty running power to the pump? How did you run the electrical wires from the pump in the engine bay to the diesel heater under your seat?
No it was pretty easy, I just followed the fuel line. I also used some spare wire I had to extend the factory oem wire and covered it all in split tubing to protect it.
@@madetoexplore Nice! Thanks for the reply! To avoid having the fuel tank inside my van, I'm planning to mount a small tank inside the engine bay. The heater will be inside the van and the pump/filter mounted underneath the van. I guess I will need to drill an extra hole in the turret plate for the fuel pump electrical wires?
@@kylehowe2698 sounds good. Keep in mind the expansion and contraction of the fuel tank from the engine temperature. No you shouldn’t have too. There’s 4 holes- exhaust, intake, fuel line, fuel pump wire
@@madetoexploreThanks for the suggestions! I've learned alot from your videos. I went back and looked at the turret plate that came with my heater and it does indeed have a fourth hole that sits outside of the rubber seal of the heater, but the webasto turret plate I ordered from amazon does not. Easy fix though.
Can you put a "T" where the pump is mounted between the auxiliary tank and the gravity filler to the main tank? Is the pump strong enough to be able to draw the fuel up about 2 feet?
Are you referring to the T1N or a different van? Yes the pump can do that.
These are fine up to a 1 meter pull but try and have a slight up hill feed to the heater if possible, it works best to eliminate the bubbles.
I'm thinking about getting a 2 psi 12 volt pump..and send it to a mechanical pressure regulator.witb a return option to the tank.piston pump outdated
Let me know how that works out!
I bought a sealed lid cereal tub from The Range, and suspended it with shock cord inside and the pump is under the front passenger seat and you literally can not hear it 4ft away. It's more just white noise if anything, and you definitely can't hear it in the bedroom at teh back of a Mercedes Sprinter.
Nice!
i use rubber vibration isolator bushings for my air compressor - cant even tell its on lol
Interesting! Thanks for watching
I have my diesel heater in my basement and have no problem with the fuel pump now. I have it suspended with a ziptie from a screw on the wall at a 45 degree angle and wrapped in insulation. It's completely quiet now. Sitting next to it I can't hear it.
That’s great! 👍
Word on the street the wabasto pump is quieter and will work in the generic heaters.
Yeah it could be!
Hang it off a cable tie helps reduce the vibration / clicking noise
Yeah it helps a lot!
Is that a zip tie? So pull it out of the rubber housing and just mount it to hang below?
@@jonnytacooutdoors yeah, the rubber housing doesn’t help with the noise. Zip ties work much better.
@@madetoexplore ok I’m going to hang mine with zip ties, just watched another video almost no noise hanging it with zip ties . 👌🏻👌🏻
I'm going to wrap it in sound deadning and put it in a 150 x 150 mm pcv electrical box.
Great idea! That should work well
Just mount it in a tupperware or plastic container filled with insulation or some kind of padding.
Yeah that could work although with the major heating and freezing, I’d guess most plastics would deteriorate
does the pump get hot while running?
No it doesn’t.
I wonder why they can't pulse a peristaltic pump .
Not to sure! Might have something to do with size and cost tho
Jus upgrade to another vacuum fuel pump?
What do you mean?
What’s a vacuum fuel pump and where can you buy one?
My diesel heater goes bom bom bom bom and I cannot sleep with that noise.
Hopefully this video helps!
What I did...... put the pump in a medium Styrofoam coffee cup through the bottom then spray GreatStuff Foam in the cup. I haven't had to service it yet so I have no opinion on that. Knock on Wood. It works.
Great idea! Although that spray foam can be very sticky haha might be worth purchasing a backup pump to have around just in case.
@@madetoexplore Maybe wrap the pump and an inch on either end of the fuel line with Saran Wrap, then foam it- it won't stick to the pump and should have the same effect.
@@davidroads419 interesting idea! It would certainly be a lot cheaper haha
I silenced mine by putting it in a plastic clip lock box surrounded in moulding plasticine just about silent.
Great idea!
when i burn waste oil i can't hear pump. so maybe if you add some motor oil will reduce noise.
I think I’m gonna stick with Diesel but I appreciate the recommendation!
Iv heard this to , something with the oil thicking up the diesel fuel damping the metal to metal inside the pump
@@JBs_trucks_and_whitetail_bucks then the thicker fuel doesn't burn propperly and clogs up the heater 😏
Its not so much the pump making noise but the fan is loud like my wife says the plane is just about to take off fasten your seatbelts lol the pump ticking puts me to sleep
Yeah it be pretty loud when it’s running full blast. The lower mode isn’t bad tho
I bought another diesel heater and the QC to this thing is lacking when the motor spins up it reverberates through the aluminum casing there is no silicone boot that is suppose to be fitted and the end of the motor it isn't there and it is loud I'm gonna go buy some nylon washers and fit them over the screws that hold the fan motor in place and do around of tuck tape around the motor as well need to quiet this thing down
Just installed my diesel heater and cannot stand the clicking... Going to order the quiet custom one from Australia, already have the afterburner so now time for the pump... Great video but I'll just buy the quiet pump and go that route, no offense but sounds like you've done some damage and kinda don't care much
Yeah that’s probably the easier route. I wouldn’t say I’ve done any damage tho. Had this setup for almost 3 years now and it stills works great! Can’t hear the pump at all either.
I'm gonna clad mine in plasticine for my boat
Interesting idea! Hopefully that’ll work pretty well 👍
He just kept wrapping it in stuff until it was quiet. I especially enjoyed seeing the vacuum line ("air vacuum line") that kinked because of the zip tie (8:15) Rags, zip-ties, and electrical tape. I cannot fathom using electrical tape in any context to secure something, much less in a high-heat environment. And no, please DO NOT put wood in your engine bay. People are out there putting wood and electrical tape in their engine bays, then are surprised when they start an engine fire. 😑
2 years later and this setup is still working great. No kinks, no melted tape, VERY quiet and it’s also easy to access when the pump needs to be replaced. Not sure why you would mention wood in an engine bay?
Don't buy a ultra quiet fuel pump, they are not that quiet, make a plywood box and line it with roofing sheet lead , hang the pump inside on tie wraps , seal the box and cover the outside with the same lead. You wont hear anything at all.
Sounds like a good solution to me!
think I'll save my $23 for Hersheys miniatures
Haha! Whatever makes you happy 👍
Get a cheap large thermos. It’s a vacuum so no sound can get through the walls. Then make a sound deadened lid and run the line in and out through that.
That’s a good idea 👍
get to the point please! Too much back story before you offer the solution!
You know you can skip ahead right?
Bro, the first half of this vid was a ssstttrreeettcchhh
That’s what the chapters and fast forward button is for Brah 😂
put it into a pool noodle.
I tried this. Doesn’t do as much as you’d think but helps a bit.
turn the radio up lol
Haha that’s one solution!
Here's a bit of help on quiet pumps! soundproofempire.com/quietest-electric-fuel-pump/
Thanks! I don’t think any of those pumps are designed for diesel heater pumps tho 🤔
Those pumps are designed to feed the engine! So the amount of the fuel is far too much to consume to heater. Sorry but no useful tip!❤