History Of Vanguard: The Descent Of The King Of Knights! | The 1st Vanguard Set (EN)
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This is the History of Cardfight Vanguard! In this series; I'll be taking a look back from the start of Vanguard's english release and discuss the set, cards, and events in history that happened. This is done in an effort to catch myself up, a player that did not get to play at this time, as well as to help those that werent there at the time. Please enjoy!
Today we start from the very first set, The Descent Of The King Of Knights!
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Time Stamps:
00:00 - Intro
00:49 - What Is Cardfight Vanguard?
03:13 - Trial Decks 1 & 2
05:36 - Set 1: The Descent Of The King Of Knights
09:18 - Meta Breakdown
16:58 - Conclusion
17:48 - Outro/Credits
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The Descent Of The King Of Knights |VGE-BT01| History Of Vanguard (Premium) - Hry
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Next I'll be talking about Set 2, VGE-BT02 "Onslaught of Dragon Soul" which released on March 10, 2011.
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Spoilers: Barcgal becomes uber busted in Set 2 to the point of being one of the first cards in the game that got hit in the banlist.
@@elin111 ive heard about this a lil bit. Care to elaborate?
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The Barcgal engine basically became a pseudo Ride-Deck after the introduction of Pongal: A g1 that for CB1 moves itself to soul to search Soul Saver Dragon from deck.
Barcgal superior Rides Blaster Blade from deck, Pongal searches Soul Saver Dragon, you got your ride to G3 secured just by having Barcgal as your FV and a Pongal in hand. While you're at it, Pongal + Barcgal sets up the 5 soul for Soul Saver Dragon turn 3 so you'd prepare a board beforehand so the moment you first ride Soul Saver you got the skill full power. +5k to 3 rearguards sounds like child's play in 2023 but in 2011-2012 that was about the most aggro you could get at the time.
Granted, damage denial and a bit of early control would severely reduce the efficiency of that engine but I'm pretty sure those concepts were much less understood at that time.
@@CurlyHairedVanguardBarcgal fulfills the cost of Soul Saver Dragon by turn 3, so you basically have a guaranteed Soul Saver Dragon turn on ride up.
Woo, nice to actually see a video that talks about Vanguard's past. It's something that I always wanted to see. I really can't wait for the next one.
Glad you enjoyed it! already working on the next one!
I am SO happy there’s a series like this, Vanguard is so niche in my area compared to any other game and it’s awesome to see the history being out there
Yeap! Thats one of the main reasons I did this series; didnt really see alot out there in video format
That's what I like about the original CFV anime. It taught you more about the game as it went. Clan-mixing, the importance of different triggers, potential strategies. It's probably the best companion show to a card game that I've seen.
Nice nostalgia trip. additional info tho: This is when Invincible Overlord started seeing use- Overlord for his Cb3 Restand and Mr Invincible for his Countercharge
I asked the references I had about it and it didnt seem like invicible overlord was around yet? Im having a really hard time pinpointing when the deck started and when it ended
This is exactly what the game needed. Keep up the great work!!!
thank you! defintly will not be stopping!
The Asura Kaiser build that took the most tops at the time actually started Barcgal as he was not restricted until Set 2. Since the Barcgal/Flogal/Llew combo could guarantee riding to your Grade 2 Blaster Blade, you only ran two Grade 2s in the deck (two copies of Blaster Blade in case one was damage checked), and filled the rest of the slots with Grade 3s in order to hit Asura Kaiser's restand more often. Popular choices included Voidmaster to force the opponent to discard, Dragonic Overlord to wipe the opponent's front row, and both Juggernaut Maximum and Gancelot as they returned themselves to the deck which allowed for more Grade 3 checks. Unfortunately the deck was luck-based by its very nature and also had little shield to guard with as you both ran a large number of G3s and had no access to a Perfect Guard, so it didn't return the results a lot of people hoped for. Still a very interesting deck nonetheless.
Took the most tops? do you mean at like locals or some kind of official event?
Im guessing this Asura Kaiser deck didnt start till set 2? since there was only 2 g3 nova grapppler units; however they got more in set 2? Since Asura kaiser says it needs to check a g3 Nova grappler unit specifically
I really thought you were just gonna play more DI.
This is amazing.
I mean…thats not exactly off the table…
This is a great series and looking forward to more!!
Thank you! glad to hear your enjoyed this video! New video will be comin out very soon!
Cardfight Vanguard is a card game that existed back then and exists now, with changes like all cards games that have a long history
Im guessing this is from something lol
This is some of the best vg content ive seen in ages, great work!
Thank you so much!!!
I won't lie, hearing the ZERO music in the end credits hits rly hard. great video boss, keep up the good work!
the funny thing with VG up until the cross rides, was people didn't run PGs A. because they cost so much but also if you notice the power gain on cards was so minimal while triggers were fairly substantial shields that there was little reason to drop a PG as Overlord against almost anythingwhen a single trigger makes it a 2 to pass or no pass
Glad you enjoyed the video! and yea thats a good point; I'll dive into that a bit deeper the next video since I'll go into attack/defense values, guarding and costs more in detail since I didnt wanna front load it here.
It's so interesting to see how much Vanguard has evolved since its conception, as a player who started with Zero and D
I mean, CB2 to retire? So weirdly dated
How about CB2 to draw one, on an on-hit effect.
How about CB5 SB8, retire 3 rears.
@grilledcheezvirtualoniisan8670 Personally I don't miss riding that 9k G3 whose only effect is to gain +2k under very specific conditions.
Awesome video, hope you keep this series going, we need full history of our favorite game for the records
Thank you! and I definitely am! Next video will be out very soon!
Omg. This is incredible. I can't wait for a second episode :)
Gathering the data now so will be coming soon!
love this series already got yourself a new sub
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it!
Hooray more of this please
more coming very very soon!
Glad to be able to help out on the video...The finished product looks amazing! Looking forward to whats next...
Thanks again!!!
Fantastic video. I really wish early vanguard was documented better and I bet you do too
Great video can't wait to see more 😊
Thank you! Next video coming soon!
Set 6 was actually the start of my vanguard career haha. Can’t wait to see more of this series as you go through each of the upcoming sets!
Working on the set 6 video now and should be up...soon!
Very great video on the first set! I’ll be trying to send you lots of info for set two when I have a little more free time this week!
cant wait to see it! thank you so much again!
Fantasic video and editing
I've only heard stories about early vanguard, but never actually played it. Once GBT05-6 rolls around, expect me to gush like the nerd I am, cause that's where I started and where my knowledge begins.
Thank you! Same for me; closest I got was Vanguard zero. Excited to get up to the G stuff!
Really cool seeing the history of VG as a newer player, great job! Quick thought, maybe flip the title to “History of Vanguard: [Set Name]”. I was a bit confused at first on what it was about.
Hmm fair enough, title updated!
And thank you! Im glad you enjoyed it since I definitely had players like you in mind when making this!
Looking forward to more of this, reminds me a lot of Swagkage's ygo meta video!
more to come soon!
Llew’s cost wasn’t actually a bit deal since Barcgal called the units for free.
Yea I'll be getting into how good it actually was in the next video
I will say I definitely want to give a shout to niche VCs or popular rear g3's like Voidmaster and Tyrant Deathrex. Voidmaster was mainly good during this time w/ the g1 they gave cause of the fact discarding was so good against your opponent, especially since all they required was CB1 and just have less cards then your opponent when most of time when your about to rush you probably will have less cards, and this created since really nice hit pressure on your opponent cause it could potentially rip important cards from your hand to guard or even follow up w/ next turn. Tyrant Deathrex is mainly just cause as a VC he made some nice number being able to be a 15k vc on attack plus boost for 5k-8k makes him 22-23k so even on Overlord who's 11k base needed to throwdown at least 15k or more to guard. Too bad during this time his only benefit on retiring a rear for hitting was the g2 that came with him this set, but as a Beater when your opponents on 5 damage those numbers could hurt since Shield value was lower, and it was for no cost, just attack and its 15k. I also wonder if you'll talk about any promo units that come out during this time, cause theres some fun ones!
Thank you for that insight! I will try and include more mention for those two somewhere in the next video.
I actually didnt know we had promos this early? I will have to take a look into this and see what I can find, thank you!
Absolutely loved this vid was so awesome. Only criticism I had was that, “vanguard doesn’t have a mana system.” As Counter-blasts are VG mana system, and like Digimon is a unique mana system that is reactive to how the game progresses.
Such an awesome video, really loved it. Also you should try reach out to Team Absolution VG, they were doing content during old VG and into G era. They would have a ton of info even on their channel or if you were able to get a hold of them.
Thank you! I've been trying to find these old vanguard channels so I will definitely try and reach out to them!
To your point, I wanted to allude more to the fact that you could call anything from hand, regardless of "mana" as you would in other games. And that likewise you scale up each turn, as you would in games with mana but just not exactly. I wouldnt count CB/SB as mana persay but in general Im saving mention of that for the next video; didnt want this one to be too tutorially.
@@CurlyHairedVanguard More than welcome! Hopefully you can get some stuff outta them.
With the “mana system” I think that’s fair as it’s definitely unconventional so totally understand not wanting to call it as such. Also tbf the CB system is definitely perspective wether people see it as a “mana system” or not. Love the stuff can’t wait for the next vid, I’ll be patiently waiting. ❤️
Oh a heads up incase you weren't aware, but the English version of Vanguard didn't release a good chunk of the early sets in order. Not sure how you wanna approach videos going forward with that information.
Thanks for the heads up! I didnt know about it but thankfully did find out it in doing research for this video so I have taken that into consideration!
Another interesting thing to note about Vanguard was that it had a strong start due to a good portion of the Yu-Gi-Oh! Community giving this game a shot since everyone hated Dino Rabbit format where Ignition Priority was still a thing in the TCG. People like me heard about how the guy who made the Yu-Gi-Oh! R manga co-created a card game and enjoyed its early diversity (which I'm sure you'll get to) due to the set's not aligning with Japan's.
In retrospect, megablast sucked and like, 9-10 G3s we're good enough for Goku since getting 1 G3 trigger a game was enough to set back an opponent at a time where card advantage generally required 2 CBs minimum. Any more than 1 and you went mega-plus, but it wasn't worth screwing your ride ratio over. 14-10-9, 13-11-9, 13-10-10, and 12-11-10 were all worth testing.
Berserk Dragon at 4 was great for early-mid game control and if you ran the superior ride (which, if you did, you'd go 4 Aleph or none at all), you can get 3 Berserk 1 DO effect off or 1 Berserk 2 DO eff off minimum with no heal triggers in play.
Conroe also allowed utility for not just perfect guards and getting Aermo to cycle out the excess G3s, but a tech of Jarran if you ran 2 copies of Tejas (but if you ran the superior ride, you wouldn't go this route since Tejas will compete for Nehalem's space unless you cut down on Berserk a little) for even more back row hate.
The advantage Vortex had over Aleph however wasn't his megablast but the fact that he was attacking for 12k as a VG, which gave him an advantage against any non-DO or Kaiser VGs if backed by Bahr. That being said it wouldn't be something you picked over Goku or DO early game but it had merit behind the idea.
Going 8 Crits 4 Stands had merit in pure Kagero due to RG DO restanding for 21k being a menace.
DO and Karma Queen were also splashed in Invincible decks lol basically it was budget Kagero with no PGs get rekt
Very Great Video, I wish our past was a little more well documented. Also note there was a lot more grade 3 mixing in the early competitive like Mr. Invisible in Kagero, I knew a lot of decks splashed in CEO cause they could to check that top card. Also while you have a valid critism of the flaws of barcgal it helped as Gancelot need Blaster Blade in soul for his ability and come set 2 when RP got Soul Saver Dragon paying that guareteened its soul blast 5 cost on ride
I was trying to find some info on IncivicleOverlord but couldnt really really find where it started and or ended. Do you happen to have a sense of more of the cards that were played?
and yes, I wanted to focus on llew and bargacl this video to set up for soul saver ;)
Sorry I don’t quite know when Invincible Overlord started but it ended around 2013 with the release of Overlord The End being the better deck and got conroe restricted from being a starting van, later on in the year.
@@immortal_blank thats fair, thank you!
i miss the time when i miss the main vanguard and have to ride the backup grade 3. Great old day
Good times 🥲
@@CurlyHairedVanguardimagine calling getting grade stuck and not being able to play the game “Good times” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hope you continue with this, I've seen other youtubers do this before, but stop after doing a part 1
likewise, one of the main reason I did this is that I didnt see any kept going. I defintely will keep going!
What a weird timeline where pgs are affordable while triggers are expensive 😂
we'll see; I feel like Cecelia and Asha have more selling power than Leo and Belly
So are you gonna talk about all the old sets from OG to G to V?
Yea thats the goal! havent really considered V just yet but we'll worry about that when we get there
is there a retro format like yugioh's goat format where i can play this to revive the old days?
There is not sadly, at least not one supported by Bushiroad. Some players have a "G-Format" that they play which is all cards up until the last G expansion and exclude V and D.
Other than that, thats it. I want to start doing some retro style fights along side this to see if I can make those kinda formats happen.
Whats the videogame? Is it vanguard zero? It dosnt look like it or at least i dont recognize the characters
More deck knowledge in G-BT12 or G-BT11 start the game
Sorry what do you mean?
How to describe this set in one sentence: "We're still figuring things out"
I think they did okay compared to our tcgs
A bit unfortunate that a lot of the records of old Vanguard are lost to time, as there are some pretty major errors regarding the decks that were played at the time.
Not to say that I don't appreciate all the effort and research that went into the video, fantastic job on that.
That being said, here are some major points about the set 1 era:
The first is the grade ratios. It was established almost immediately that the optimal grade ratios for most decks was aruond 17-14-11-8. Exceptions would apply to decks such as Asura Kaiser which would often go to around 10-12 to increase the chances of hitting Grade 3s on their drive checks.
That being said, Goku Kagero did not actually play a lot of 3s, usually just playing the 4 Gokus to be the intended VG and 4 Overlords to be the intended RG. It would also use Stand triggers to potentially stand Dragonic Overlord on RG if the opponent guarded against their attempts to wipe their frontrow RG slots.
Aleph was never a deck.
One of the most popular decks of the era was actually one called "Invincible Overlord", due to the combination of the two main units involved. The main VG would be Mr. Invincible from Nova, while the main RG was Dragonic Overlord. You would use Mr. Invincible's one-per-turn Counter Charge alongside Nova units like Hungry Dumpty and Claydoll Mechanic to allow Dragonic Overlord to repeatedly use his CB3 effect in a single game. The deck was also EXTREMELY cheap, due to not playing Perfect Guards, making it a very popular choice amongst prospective players who did not want to full invest yet.
The last big point is that Highspeed Brakki was one of the best cards in almost every deck. Having access to a 14k attacker (making a 21k lane with a 7k booster) in a pinch for a big final push was valuable no matter what deck you were playing, and there weren't enough mechanics (such as updated Lord text) in the game yet to prevent players from playing off-clan units. The one deck that wouldn't run this was Alfred due to his effect requiring a full board of RPs for 20k power, but pretty much anything else could use this card.
I played a ton of VG from the very beginning, and used to actually be a CFVG youtuber for the first few years of the game being out. If you need any consultation for these videos, feel free to hmu on my twitter @ShizukatzWS. Keep up the good work!
Video was great but you gotta stop calling him Draganic Overlord lmao
Thats his name thouuu?!
@@CurlyHairedVanguard
Dra-GON-ic, not Dra-GAN-ic lol
Nice Video!!! So many memories that you unlocked inside me now 🥲
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! Hopefully I can keep unlocking happy memories from you :)