all my starts in these duet go for Malin!!!! she is the singer that gets my attention!!! Kasarova .... she does what she knows, whether I like it or not is not of anyone business. each one enjoys as they think fit!
I agree that Garanca is a fabulous singer and actress, but Kasarova makes a wonderful Oktavian, for my taste...she has a real sense of humor and timing that, along with her marvellous voice, makes this a pleasure to watch. The clips PPanncho has posted make me want to buy this whole video.
Her(Kasarova) voice is known for being rich and dark. I thought it was ugly, too, at first when I heard her SEsto. But after hearing it for a while, they became AWSOME. She can do SO MANY things with that chest!!! OMG!! WHen she goes downstairs she does it so well!! In some of her SEsto's she does a coloratura into the chest register!!! SHe's amazing and a GREAT actress!!
malin hartelius is my new favorite opera start. she's simply masterful in every role i've seen her in; here, as costanza in die entfuhrung, and as pamina in die zauberfloete
Beautiful singing - the most unusual "Presentation of the silver rose" scene. But it doesn't have to be a Franco Zeffirelli production to be good. I enjoyed this very much, too. Thank you for posting.
THE PRESENTATION OF THE ROSE has some of the most excrutiatingly beautiful music ever written... I respectfully remind listeners that there are group of religionists who want to take this all away from us...and return us to the 8th Century...a land without Beethoven... Khomeini banned all Western music... If you are an anti-war liberal just remember what we stand to lose if they win. "Londonstan" will soon have the biggest Mosque in the World... sanjosemike
Burtsbees2, you make a valid point. Over the years I too have struggled with R. Strauss's "flirtation" with Nazism. Strauss had Jews in his own family. He could have left Germany, like Hindemith, but chose to stay instead... Strauss was much older than Hindemith. Hindemith's wife Gertrud, was in fact Jewish. She certainly would have been arrested and transferred to a concentration camp, quite possibly with her husband. (sanjosemike), please continue to next post...
Sophie, muy tímida se esconde en el armario y responde con palabras de similar cortesía. Más, de pronto, sus miradas se cruzan y entre los dos jóvenes se produce una especie de común turbación. Se quedan extasiados como si se evadieran del entorno y se encontraran los dos solos en el mundo. Hacen un esfuerzo por recuperarse y, una vez controlado el mutuo encanto, entrecruzan las palabras de educación y de saber estar apropiadas.
Muy sr @ SDCmorg / ra mio / a hablelo Usted Con strauss Que escribio poara voces Que queria esto.claro Que No necesariamente Tiene Por Que Pensar Igual que strauss A mi me es Suficiente la Calidad de la Voz Cosa Que jamas pondre en Duda de Veselina kassarova.
Pancho, gostamos muito do desempenho de Amel Brahim nas Bachianas Brasileiras. Aqui no Brasil, não temos acesso a este material. Seria possível nos enviar? Ficaríamos muito agradecidos.
as an anti-war liberal who has sung both zerbinetta and sophie and has infinite appreciation for this music, I offer you this quote by Toscanini; "To Strauss the composer I take off my hat; to Strauss the man I put it back on again." we cannot forget that this music was written by someone who allowed his, and beethoven's music, to be made into propaganda by a government that practiced intolerance.
El Caballero de la Rosa, vestido completamente de blanco argénteo, con la rosa de plata en una de sus manos. Octavian se acerca a la joven y pronuncia delicadamente las palabras de rigor: “Se me ha concedido el honor de preceder a mi primo el Barón de Lerchenau ante su muy noble y distinguida prometida, con el fin de entregarle en su nombre esta rosa de plata”
Hallo ich muss zu dieser Oper ein Referat machen und muss zu diesem Video eine kurze Beschreibung schreiben. Könnte mir Bitte jemand helfen? Ich würde gerne wissen was in diesem Ausschnitt/ in dieser Szene passiert. Vielen Dank für Eure Hilfe :D
I agree.Strauss tried to keep on good terms with the Nazis to protect his Jewish Daughter in Law,and her children who though they were half Jewish,were classed as full Jews by the Nazis.
Have you ever seen the sheet music? It is EXTREMLEY complex. Strauss was famous for pushing tonality to its limit. One octave and everything's screwed. Everything was done with precision. If the orchestra matched, it wouldn't be as bad, but that's how he pushed tonality. The singers and orchestra are compltley different.
Disagree... to a certain degree, though... I must admit - . 3rd act i'd like to fast forward to the foreplay of the terzetto... "Es war nicht mehr als eine Farce.." But this.. this.. is of such indescribable beauty that I if one decided to leave Earth, there would not be a more transcendent and tranquil way to go...
I disagree and I agree. As a woman Rosenkavalier belongs to the absolute *transcendent* category. Actually I identify with Feltmarshallin more than I think is ...well ... more than I would like too.. "Sei Er nun nicht wie aller Men sind..." *sigh*..... But Presentation of the Rose is of such sheer beauty that is just.. beyond words....
And that poster stands by his assessment of you. You claimed that Muslims could ban classical music by a vote of Parliament, where only four MPs are Muslim. I was unaware that the collective forces of Glasgow Central, Perry Barr, Dewsbury, and Tooting could leverage such a major change in British culture. I was last in the UK a few months ago. It didn't seem to me, and doesn't now, that the approximately 3% of Britons who are Muslims are in any position to remake Britain in their image.
Burtsbees2 continued: I have tried to research the "Denazification" of R. Strauss, but have not had much data on this. There are some books written about Denazification after WWII, and probably there is information about Strauss on that. Unquestionably Strauss was "defensive" on the entire issue. He did apparently openly accept Hitler. Like everyone else, he did have a choice. Perhaps he was a sonofabitch. I don't know. Furtwangler also made his bed with Nazis. sanjosemike
Undoubtedly a number of posters were surprised that I knew as much about music as I do...or that I can write well. In fact, even though I am an amateur, I can play all 5 Beethoven Piano Concertoes. One poster dismissed me as a "paranoid lunatic." A recent trip to London or Madrid by those here will dispel my "paranoia." Europe is about to be overtaken by Islam. When it does, all the Opera houses there will be closed. Wait and see. sanjosemike
i actually disagree with the von Otter selection. In her performance at the Met Gala, and from what many have said from live performances, she's easily lost when not by herself.
burtsbees2: My concern for the continued existence of Western Art follows a logical progression, much of which comes from extensive travel in Muslim Countries, and seeing it firsthand. It's not a matter of being "right winged." It's a matter of most artists and those who love this tradition not really understanding the threat we have to Western Civilization by Islam. I respectfully urge you to review that issue in more detail. It's easy to be put off by my ranting, I know,(continued)
In the U.S. we just elected a president who may or may not confront the dangers of Islam. The Jury is still out. My intention is to get people who love Western Art to start thinking about the challenges that face it, including everything from rap music, to Islam, the sworn enemy of Western Art. Even though I irritated posters here, my guess is that they will remember my posts the next time there is an attack by Islam against the West and everything it represents. (continued)
you clearly are well-versed enough in the historical context of this composer that I might have expected you to be more considerate before turning this transcendent piece of music into a platform for right-wing politics. as we both would prefer that the state of nazi germany were disassociated from strauss, i would rather no one would continue to use these sublime aspects of western civilization to alienate any group of people, whatever the reason.
I hasten to remind you and other readers who are angry with me, that Rosenkavalier has two women protagonists, who while they are singing and kissing have one dressed in drag. My intention is not to condemn or "cheapen" the art (after all, it is a comedy/tragedy about aging) and the power of un-democratic aristocracy, but to also remind you that due to the above reasons, this would be banned in Muslim Countries...and it is... Respectfully, sanjosemike
But yours and fellow listeners distaste for me does not obviate the threat that our great tradition is under... The solution: I think we should be proud of our culture, and support those who see this as a battle of cultures, in addition to military confrontations. It's not a matter of liberal vs conservative. The Danes will tell you that when you review their battle with Muslims over cartoons of Mohammad. If I got some listeners riled, I think that's OK. (continued)...
when you use phrases like "anti-war liberals" and "they", you need to realize that you invite negative responses from all sorts of people who would rather enjoy this performance than have someone's, as you put it, "ranting" splashed all over it. as an educated individual that can appreciate other view points, I would encourage you to find another place to do this, and not display anything that can easily be construed as anti-diplomatic hyperbole where it is not appropriate.
One of my favorites in the opera repertoire sung brilliantly by Kasarova and Hartelius.
all my starts in these duet go for Malin!!!! she is the singer that gets my attention!!! Kasarova .... she does what she knows, whether I like it or not is not of anyone business. each one enjoys as they think fit!
love it! i've stage managed this production in Zürich and it is still one of my all time favorite operas ever.
I agree that Garanca is a fabulous singer and actress, but Kasarova makes a wonderful Oktavian, for my taste...she has a real sense of humor and timing that, along with her marvellous voice, makes this a pleasure to watch. The clips PPanncho has posted make me want to buy this whole video.
Her(Kasarova) voice is known for being rich and dark. I thought it was ugly, too, at first when I heard her SEsto. But after hearing it for a while, they became AWSOME. She can do SO MANY things with that chest!!! OMG!! WHen she goes downstairs she does it so well!! In some of her SEsto's she does a coloratura into the chest register!!! SHe's amazing and a GREAT actress!!
Estupenda!! Magnífica!!
Their voice work great together. I don't usually like Kasarova, but she's performing an excellent Octavian!
Magnifico desde que comienza hasta que termina.
malin hartelius is my new favorite opera start. she's simply masterful in every role i've seen her in; here, as costanza in die entfuhrung, and as pamina in die zauberfloete
love
¡¡¡MAGNIFICA!!!
Gorgeous!
fantastic...innovative...progressive? incredible :-)
Beautiful singing - the most unusual "Presentation of the silver rose" scene. But it doesn't have to be a Franco Zeffirelli production to be good. I enjoyed this very much, too. Thank you for posting.
THE PRESENTATION OF THE ROSE
has some of the most excrutiatingly beautiful music ever written...
I respectfully remind listeners that there are group of religionists who want to take this all away from us...and return us to the 8th Century...a land without Beethoven...
Khomeini banned all Western music...
If you are an anti-war liberal just remember what we stand to lose if they win. "Londonstan" will soon have the biggest Mosque in the World...
sanjosemike
Burtsbees2, you make a valid point. Over the years I too have struggled with R. Strauss's "flirtation" with Nazism. Strauss had Jews in his own family. He could have left Germany, like Hindemith, but chose to stay instead...
Strauss was much older than Hindemith. Hindemith's wife Gertrud, was in fact Jewish. She certainly would have been arrested and transferred to a concentration camp, quite possibly with her husband.
(sanjosemike), please continue to next post...
Sin embargo, apenas pueden disimular el repentino interés que se ha establecido entre los dos. Un verdadero flechazo.
Sophie, muy tímida se esconde en el armario y responde con palabras de similar cortesía. Más, de pronto, sus miradas se cruzan y entre los dos jóvenes se produce una especie de común turbación. Se quedan extasiados como si se evadieran del entorno y se encontraran los dos solos en el mundo. Hacen un esfuerzo por recuperarse y, una vez controlado el mutuo encanto, entrecruzan las palabras de educación y de saber
estar apropiadas.
Exquisita Aria
Muy sr @ SDCmorg / ra mio / a hablelo Usted Con strauss Que escribio poara voces Que queria esto.claro Que No necesariamente Tiene Por Que Pensar Igual que strauss A mi me es Suficiente la Calidad de la Voz Cosa Que jamas pondre en Duda de Veselina kassarova.
She looks a little like Reese Witherspoon from certain angles.
Also, I'm amazed at their control - I'd like to sing that well :
Pancho, gostamos muito do desempenho de Amel Brahim nas Bachianas Brasileiras.
Aqui no Brasil, não temos acesso a este material.
Seria possível nos enviar?
Ficaríamos muito agradecidos.
as an anti-war liberal who has sung both zerbinetta and sophie and has infinite appreciation for this music, I offer you this quote by Toscanini;
"To Strauss the composer I take off my hat; to Strauss the man I put it back on again."
we cannot forget that this music was written by someone who allowed his, and beethoven's music, to be made into propaganda by a government that practiced intolerance.
4:27 "Which of you shall we say doth love our dinner plates best?
El Caballero de la Rosa, vestido completamente de blanco argénteo, con la rosa de plata en una
de sus manos. Octavian se acerca a la joven y pronuncia delicadamente las palabras de rigor: “Se
me ha concedido el honor de preceder a mi primo el Barón de Lerchenau ante su muy noble y distinguida prometida, con el fin de entregarle en su nombre esta rosa de plata”
Hallo ich muss zu dieser Oper ein Referat machen und muss zu diesem Video eine kurze Beschreibung schreiben. Könnte mir Bitte jemand helfen? Ich würde gerne wissen was in diesem Ausschnitt/ in dieser Szene passiert. Vielen Dank für Eure Hilfe :D
I agree.Strauss tried to keep on good terms with the Nazis to protect his Jewish Daughter in Law,and her children who though they were half Jewish,were classed as full Jews by the Nazis.
And how old is the Feltmarshallin ?
Have you ever seen the sheet music? It is EXTREMLEY complex. Strauss was famous for pushing tonality to its limit. One octave and everything's screwed. Everything was done with precision. If the orchestra matched, it wouldn't be as bad, but that's how he pushed tonality. The singers and orchestra are compltley different.
Disagree... to a certain degree, though... I must admit - . 3rd act i'd like to fast forward to the foreplay of the terzetto... "Es war nicht mehr als eine Farce.."
But this.. this.. is of such indescribable beauty that I if one decided to leave Earth, there would not be a more transcendent and tranquil way to go...
I disagree and I agree. As a woman Rosenkavalier belongs to the absolute *transcendent* category. Actually I identify with Feltmarshallin more than I think is ...well ... more than I would like too.. "Sei Er nun nicht wie aller Men sind..."
*sigh*.....
But Presentation of the Rose is of such sheer beauty that is just.. beyond words....
Great singing, great acting, bizarre staging.
And that poster stands by his assessment of you. You claimed that Muslims could ban classical music by a vote of Parliament, where only four MPs are Muslim. I was unaware that the collective forces of Glasgow Central, Perry Barr, Dewsbury, and Tooting could leverage such a major change in British culture.
I was last in the UK a few months ago. It didn't seem to me, and doesn't now, that the approximately 3% of Britons who are Muslims are in any position to remake Britain in their image.
who's the creepy guy in the back? whoa.
Burtsbees2 continued:
I have tried to research the "Denazification" of R. Strauss, but have not had much data on this. There are some books written about Denazification after WWII, and probably there is information about Strauss on that.
Unquestionably Strauss was "defensive" on the entire issue. He did apparently openly accept Hitler.
Like everyone else, he did have a choice.
Perhaps he was a sonofabitch. I don't know. Furtwangler also made his bed with Nazis.
sanjosemike
Their voices work great together. I don
@ SDCmorg
Undoubtedly a number of posters were surprised that I knew as much about music as I do...or that I can write well.
In fact, even though I am an amateur, I can play all 5 Beethoven Piano Concertoes. One poster dismissed me as a "paranoid lunatic."
A recent trip to London or Madrid by those here will dispel my "paranoia."
Europe is about to be overtaken by Islam. When it does, all the Opera houses there will be closed.
Wait and see.
sanjosemike
i actually disagree with the von Otter selection. In her performance at the Met Gala, and from what many have said from live performances, she's easily lost when not by herself.
burtsbees2:
My concern for the continued existence of Western Art follows a logical progression, much of which comes from extensive travel in Muslim Countries, and seeing it firsthand.
It's not a matter of being "right winged." It's a matter of most artists and those who love this tradition not really understanding the threat we have to Western Civilization by Islam.
I respectfully urge you to review that issue in more detail. It's easy to be put off by my ranting, I know,(continued)
In the U.S. we just elected a president who may or may not confront the dangers of Islam. The Jury is still out.
My intention is to get people who love Western Art to start thinking about the challenges that face it, including everything from rap music, to Islam, the sworn enemy of Western Art.
Even though I irritated posters here, my guess is that they will remember my posts the next time there is an attack by Islam against the West and everything it represents.
(continued)
you clearly are well-versed enough in the historical context of this composer that I might have expected you to be more considerate before turning this transcendent piece of music into a platform for right-wing politics. as we both would prefer that the state of nazi germany were disassociated from strauss, i would rather no one would continue to use these sublime aspects of western civilization to alienate any group of people, whatever the reason.
I hasten to remind you and other readers who are angry with me, that Rosenkavalier has two women protagonists, who while they are singing and kissing have one dressed in drag.
My intention is not to condemn or "cheapen" the art (after all, it is a comedy/tragedy about aging) and the power of un-democratic aristocracy, but to also remind you that due to the above reasons, this would be banned in Muslim Countries...and it is...
Respectfully,
sanjosemike
But yours and fellow listeners distaste for me does not obviate the threat that our great tradition is under...
The solution: I think we should be proud of our culture, and support those who see this as a battle of cultures, in addition to military confrontations.
It's not a matter of liberal vs conservative. The Danes will tell you that when you review their battle with Muslims over cartoons of Mohammad.
If I got some listeners riled, I think that's OK. (continued)...
Kasarova is not elegant enough to sing this role!
when you use phrases like "anti-war liberals" and "they", you need to realize that you invite negative responses from all sorts of people who would rather enjoy this performance than have someone's, as you put it, "ranting" splashed all over it. as an educated individual that can appreciate other view points, I would encourage you to find another place to do this, and not display anything that can easily be construed as anti-diplomatic hyperbole where it is not appropriate.
@ SDCmorg