Michigan Security and Lock AMSEC Safe Opening
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- čas přidán 29. 08. 2015
- Amsec Safe being drilled open by the owner Dustin Jones from
Michigan Security & Lock
Portage, Michigan 269-290-6449
We are a full service Safe and Vault Service Company service the South West Michigan Area
Let one of our technicians service your safe regularly so that it will not fail and need to be drilled.
Its a nice set of tools
love to you take care
Was this a swing- dead- or spring-bolt?
You can open pretty much all of electronic locks in a couple minutes by just drilling through the spindle hole into the lockbody using the Bulgarian method.
Really? Say more
what was wrong with it? busted solenoid? seems like some of these you can use the 9v battery trick
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Is this a high security safe… like a TL-15, TL-30 or a TL-30x6? Love to see him try to break into one of those TL safes that fast. All safes can be access when you have time on your side.
Almost all electronic safe locks can be opened through the spindle hole using the Bulgarian method. No matter what rating.
Thanks for the response back J.Smiles. I guess this method also includes combination lock as well? What kind of safe would you recommend? I was looking at a Hollon mjx2524c TL-30. But after seeing this video….I don’t know anymore.
@@CT-gj1ou a TL-30 is great. Use a S&G Grade 1 lock on it.
10-4, thanks for the advice sir.
@@jeremysmiles5826 are mechanical locks better or electronic ones?
2015 with a 240p camera...
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can you do this with a black and decker drill
Yes
You needed a mini drill rig for this? 🧐
If it doesn't have a hardplate you only need a steady hand and a carbide/tungsten bid.
@@Magicspirit11 I agree. Using a mag rig on a b rate safe?
😂😂😂. Some do have an 1/8" to 1/4" hard plate. I have foud that they vary. Some times i do it by hand and sometimes i use a cheap chain and lever to apply a bit more preasure.
@@Magicspirit11 how hard is it to drill through the hardplate on a new Amsec TL-30 CF series with their active hard plate? How long does it take to drill through the door and hardplate on a TL-30 amvault?
@@MustachMike how hard is it to drill through the hardplate on a new Amsec TL-30 CF series with their active hard plate? How long does it take to drill through the door and hardplate on a TL-30 amvault?
do you know dave mcomie
Yes
@@michigansecurityandlock5028 HELL YEAH!!!!
Never heard of him. But I bet you know him.
Say NO to drilling!
Say YES to manipulation!
95% of safes can be opened without drilling.
got to love the 5%ers
Out of curiosity can you manipulate a Group 1 mechanical?
@@TubeSurfer26 It actually depends upon which one. Some, yes. The reason is that when they were tested for UL Group 1, none of the experts knew anything about that design. Once it was in the market for awhile, people became aware of their vulnerabilities. At that point, it wouldn't take experts more than 20 hours to manipulate. However, UL doesn't require periodic retesting, so they retain their Group 1 status. Case in point is the STAR push-down manipulation resistant safe which can be opened in minutes with 1" travel machinist's dial indicator mounted to the safe. There are a couple of others that need a lot of practice. But not all Group 1 mechanical combination locks can be manipulated.
Having said that, Group 1 locks account for a very small fraction of mechanical combination locks out there.
Michael Kaye what’s your thought on a S&G 8500 series? Ordered that just recently to put on my safe. What lock do you recommend?
@@TubeSurfer26 I'm not sure. I think the answer is whatever you feel comfortable with. It depends on where you're using it. If it's in your home and no one who you don't trust has access to the front of your safe, then I wouldn't bother with anything higher than Group 2. No burglar is going to manipulate your combination lock.
However, if it's in a business where there are workers who do not/should not have the combination, but may have access to the safe dial, then any reliable Group 1 lock is quite appropriate. Maybe one person out of every 10,000 has manipulated a combination lock. So, even then, it's probably of rather low concern.
Notice I said reliable. This should be your first and foremost concern about any safe lock whether keyed or combination. I'm not a locksmith and as far as I know, S&G makes very reliable locks. You definitely do not want to have your safe drilled out as in this video. It will void any fire rating it may have. And yes, that's important to insurance companies who do not want to pay you.
The S&G 8500 series is where you put in the combination, turn to zero, and then push in the dial. That's how the STAR lock, that I mentioned in my last post, works. Having said that, I don't believe that it suffers from the same method of manipulation. It just releases the spring-tensioned lever when the dial is pushed. I *heard* there is a way to manipulate it, but I don't know if it's true. It didn't sound easy. Sorry, I'm not going to disclose what it is I heard.
I'm not sure what is fundamentally different between the 8550 and the 2937 besides the GSA certification, larger load the case can handle, more secure dial, and $110 more money. If the Feds like 2937, then the design is probably pretty darn good.
Remember to spin up the dial at least four times to lock it up. I've heard about people who thought that after the dial pops back up that the safe was locked. All someone had to do is push it back in, turn the dial, and open the safe.
I don't care for the S&G 8400 series with the knob used to lower the lever. I'd be afraid that the knob or its spindle would break, then you're screwed.
By the way, you can buy a LaGard 1947 4-wheel Group 1 combination lock for $64. But I believe you get what you pay for.
Hollywood Style.