Jason Feger Talks Tires, Fines & All Things Racing.
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- Jason Feger Talks Tires, Fines & All Things Racing.
Live insight from Jason on the current tire doping fines and suspensions. The internet is absolutely insane right now over all these failed samples. Why do they fail? How do they test? Where does the fine money go? Be sure to watch to see Jason's opinion on all these questions and topics.
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Thanks for your time and views on this tire situation, I can't wait for racing videos to come,best of luck to ya Hustler and crew!
I can't understand why the World of OUTLAWS has rules with that name. Outlaws dont follow rules by definition.
Honesty I don't understandwhat the big deal is with tire doping. If they allow it this wouldn't be an issue. That or Hoosier needs to do everything to a tire grinding, grooving or whatever. But in the end the only way to keep people from breaking the rule, is not have the rule.
Wow.. In my opinion, this is a very good point! World of OUTLAWS. Truthfully, this hadn’t cross my mind. Kudos!!!
I 100% agree that tires aren’t consistent. I work at a tire plant & we see it all the time. The mixed batch isn’t always the same on tread compounds. Sometimes you have more of one ingredient in one batch & not enough in the next. There is a lot of factors that go into the tire.
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Great job with the video,learned a lot from this. Good Luck This Season. Thanks
This is one of the best videos I've watched in a long time.
Has any of the test results been made available to the drivers and do they include a comprehensive test analysis on what exactly was found that wasn’t supposed to be there?. They said they can tell what chemicals are being used and that these tests are so extensive that there no excuse basically then put it out there show the people what the evidence is. Put the fans drivers and crews at ease and show us this test is what they claim it is. That’s all. Until then I’m with you Hustle Man!
No they didn’t get an analysis report or told what compound was found unless they do an appeal.
Best I’ve heard on this case….period
Great video guys, I 100%agree with the need for batch and date code control for benchmarks. This technology is common in modern manufacturing and other process control. Also the packaging discussion. There is some investment and cost involved, but the manufacturer would benefit (plus they are VERY profitable). See ya soon at a local track!
My son races asphalt sprint karts. The Hoosier tires that we buy, from the Hoosier trailer at the Rock Island Grand Prix, ARE serialized and bar coded. We have to record the tire serial numbers on the pre-race tech sheet. May not be applicable to this issue, but it may be. (?)
Until you mentioned it I never even considered some type of accident happen. Your 100% correct about things getting spilled and what do you do throw the 200 dollar tire away because dawn dish soap got spilled on it?
Great video !! Good luck this year
Absolute common sense, Jason! I agree with you almost 100%! The only thing I would change in your program is the I-phones!!😅
Looking forward to seeing you in Paducah
Jason, you made a statement that caught my attention. If a team turns in tires to be resold, who's to say that that team didn't use tire dope. Then,resold to an unsuspecting team, and then they are accused of tire doping. There needs to be a no return clause, period.
I doubt those teams in question bought used tires hahaha
@riverrat82 That is not what Jason eluded to. He said that that tires were returned to the vendor. The only way that can be done is that they have to be unused tires. Jason was eluding to that what if a team returned inused tires to the Hoosier vendor, that quite possibly those tires may have been compromised by a chemical source known to change the molecular compound and were then resold to said teams that these compromised samples were taken. No one said anything about any of those teams bought used tires from anyone.
There are people doping tires but not these 3 huh?
@shanebartrum I don't know. All this is allegedly and hypothetical. The reality is, is that 3 tires were doped and were off 3 different teams. Bobby Pierce, Kyle Bronson, and Devin Morran. Who knows how and why.
It happened, and 3 teams got busted for the tire infraction.
The truth? Well, that remains to be heard by said teams. Denial and admittance are two different actions.
Where they the race tires or qualifying tires? Can tires pickup the stuff as they all roll out on the track from others that used the stuff in other classes. Lot of other question can be asked.
Thanks Jason have a great day
Would love to see Jason interviewing Brian Carter instead of Kenny not even actually asking the hard questions.
watching from Cali Colombia
very good insight Jason
i needed to hear what you had to say thank you Jason.🏁
Thank for the extended video you and the engine tunner are pretty common sense. Everyone wants to be a Smokie Yunick but gigs up.
Perfect assessment jason.
Take a point hit and cash but keep the drivers on the track. If I was a promoter I would be pissed not having the top drivers show up. Not cheap to throw a WoO or Lucas race. Agree with the amount of tests Bobby had over the last year and all were clean but then some random Friday night in Volusia he throws a doped tire on.
On a side note, you were very entertaining at the dome, good luck for 2024.
Why would anyone mess with tires on a preliminary night
Love the way you roll
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Hey Jason, I hope you can run a little south and take some of that HTF money..your aggressive and in the hotbed of successful late model drivers..your elbows up, show em how its done
The more they tell you about the testing the easier it is for a chemists to find a way around it
Just jumped on and grabbed another tee shirt. Also met your wife a year or two ago at Eldora. She was was such a sweetie.
Jason the tire sample was in vial in a evidence bag
Very good points! My thing is, is it possible for a tire to pick up substances from the surfaces they roll on? Dope gets in the dirt. Oils and other things are everywhere and in and on the dirt. I dont know, its just hard to believe that out of all the tests and those guys knowing they will be tested, why would they do it when there is so much to lose from it?
Are they putting the dope inside of the tire and it is soaking thru?
To those who are doping tires, I’m not sure. There are all sorts of theories.
No, it's a month or 4 races last,
Test winner only,fails test, fine is whatever the winning purse is paid to rest of field or sit out rest of season
Until a more narrow window of tire is invented that could last 500 laps is created, good luck,I don't see anything changing,
Jason you damn well know there is prep services in super racing....Hell he was at Volusia. It's black or white the tire either passes or it doesn't no matter what you or I think.
I agree but that doesn’t mean that team did it. There are ways it could have of bought that way.
I didn’t know this as a race fan they’ll let you take tires and then give them back that sounds real risky. I didn’t know you could do that so you’re telling me that someone could be soaking their tires at Aldora, and a bunch of people got busted and they can go to Hoosier and say oh I don’t need these tires. I need some new ones, I’m using more of these than this. They shouldn’t not allow that at all that’s what happened somebody turn these tires back in and now some team got them come on why would one big team want to do this knowing that they’re testing for samples like I said, somebody could walk up and spray your guises tires and you wouldn’t even know it.
They should live stream there own lie detector test!
Those entities selling this stuff should be banned from tracks. Police the pits to keep those vendors away. Again, as I stated a couple of minutes ago, there should be a no tire return policy. Don't purchase any tires from any teams. Those who use anything to alter tire compound will then be stuck with their tainted tires. Hoosier should never buy back any tires without testing said tires. The Hoosier tire vendors need to be held accountable, too. Just a thought.
Carter laid it out on Wallace’s show. End the B.S. drama, make all races impound races, all tires will be purchased at the track. End of garbage he said she said. It Can Be Done.
Kinda random but for a person who probably can’t relate to this imagine getting a random drug test at work and you get a phone call saying hey man you tested positive for this and that. And you know good and well you’ve never done any type of drugs. I strongly think it’s similar with this the labs are constantly testing substances that are illegal and if that testing equipment isn’t cleaned thoroughly when they test something else that will pop dirty. I would say that’s a possibility, but they are saying the 3rd batch was sent somewhere else and tested if I understood Brian Carter correctly. So then I really don’t know.
If I'm the car owner with my reputation on the line to be labeled a cheating team. How could you go back to your main occupation with everyone around you thinking you cheat to win it just doesn't add up
I think the penalties are extreme, 30 day is crazy. Nascar, NHRA, no other sport form would do that, one weekend would have been more realistic.
I personally dont see what the big deal is. Secrets in racing only last so long before its not a secret anymore. Its always about the money. I mean I get there are rules and they broke them so they deserve to have some punishment. I just dont see the point in the rule.
Great take as usual Jason. Can’t wait to catch up with you at a race again. Might have to have a cold one or two afterwords.
I’m not saying that the 3 drivers are innocent or not but there is no way that it was a manufacturer error of the tire because in the process of the tire making the tire does no come across or come close to the “chemical” that they are saying was used to make the tire fail the test, meaning that the tire came across this chemical after it was out of the manufacturer hands.
Are you sure? Where did you see this information? I talked to Bobby today and wrg has yet to show any of the drivers the results
Make Hoosier test the tires that come back to them.
If you don't believe the bad tests, why do you believe the good ones?
Science is science. Opinions have no weight.
Tell that to the scientists whom think boys can be girls and vice versa. It's all whom presents the data and they don't tell u what they leave out, cause that's where the truth is.
I believe the these cases because each one was sampled 3 times. This isn’t always the case and there are still many variables.
Well said that’s what I figured. I was just being silly. Thanks just the same 😂
You honestly think if they did cheat they would admit it to a different driver? 😂😂 Not a chance
i think they should just make tire dope legal then everyone would run it and they wouldn't have to waste all that time and money checking them and everyone would be even
How long have they been doing it. How many times did he do it last year to win the championship. It feels like stealing to me.
Well seeing how they tested him every time he won I’m saying none. He also passed 5 tire test that week at volusia. So either he only does it at certain times. Or the lab sucks and has missed it a ton of times. Or what I think is the tire was returned at a different time or there isn’t a benchmark or that date code.
the prob is they r front runs ' not in the 20 s
Kenny Wallace and Brian Carter debunked all myths on his show. These 3 drivers all got caught. Ya'll can deny it all you want and make any excuses.
Agreed
No they did not.
YES, THEY DID. CRYBABY @@kyleolson279
When did Brian Carter actually prove what he said they do for testing? It’s the same thing as them saying they didn’t cheat. My opinion if you have the receipts that you’ve done all this extra testing and these guys cheated show the proof. Haven’t seen anything besides talk.
@@khaak85 Exactly. Brian didn't really talk about the testing procedures at all.
Tires are wrapped in plastic, cellophane, or whatever. Who knows the chemicals in these materials, probably from China?
These chemicals will transfer to the rubber in the tires!!!
Mike
Yeah, what would happen if like the tire company knows who’s ordering in the tires and they say OK we want to put something in this guy‘s tire because we don’t like them and somebody could walk right up to your guises cars and spray the tire with the water bottle and you guys wouldn’t even notice it You guys need to start having cameras on your car at all times just in case something like this happens you guys got these beautiful rigs put cameras on them and make sure those cameras are running every day so if something like this happens, you can go back to your camera be like man did somebody put something on my tires, and who says the manufacturer that knew who they were sending them to didn’t put it on one tire that if they did it all of them, it would be real obvious
Who says that somebody couldn’t walk up and spray one of your guises tires on purpose for now on you guys need to make sure who’s around your guises tires and they’re selling the stuff right at the race track they need to kick those people out they’re selling the stuff you’re putting in your tires right at the race trackand you need to watch out what if somebody walks by with a water bottle and spray the shit on your tires and you didn’t know it
Could track prep be culprit?
I don't care how many times he's been tested. It's obvious the "cheaters" aren't always running doped tires. As was mentioned by Brian Carter, one of the tires came from a qualifying run. Don't tell me Bobby wouldn't slip a doped tire in. He's been tested a bunch after feature races but how many times in the past have drivers been tested after qualifying runs and heat races? Hell that's the best time to cheat.
One side of the story sounds good for sure then you hear this side and there has to be questions. 2 labs Brian says its science they it’s not mom and dad questions it’s cut and dry 2 labs would get same results.
@@Scoot0925Chemistry does not have "sides". Cut the bullshit. There is not another side. They cheated and got caught.
@@Scoot0925no 2nd lab needed. It's chemistry which is objectively determined and is not a matter of opinion.
Looking forward to seeing racing videos. I believe your thoughts on tires was very sensible. Best of luck in 24!
@@lchbbq Brian stated that it was like a mom dad question…. Chemistry is not like that they would get the same result. Why is he worried about different lab would yield different results that’s all
Go over and watch Kenny Wallace,latest vlog about the main guy that has the tire testers and the reson behind it, WoO the truth, thanks BigAl California…guy on Kenny’s blog say
Seriously that was like a campaign add for woo he didn’t get asked one tough question.
Oh that might be his plan, WoO campaignlol I never thought about that ,,, thanks BigAl California
Yea you missed all the big money in Florida month half ago one state millions of scratch I wish I was living back there so I can at least run crate late model
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If you think that losing there #1 driver and champion doesn't hurt the series. It absolutely does
Stop buy Hoosier.all go to the others company they fix it are go out business thin you have to make the others work