MUSICAL MASTERPIECE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Blind reaction to EPIC: The Musical - The Horse and the Infant
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#epic #epicthemusical #thetroysaga #reaction #blindreaction
🔔*Rings Bell*
WE GOT ANOTHER ONE Y’ALL
Monstertius rawr rawr rawr is back at it again
Hello Mortius! Have you listened to the new saga yet?
hi mortius i am happy that we got another reactor on board
😂😂
WOOOHOOO
Just going to come in here and say let’s not post spoilers all we know what it was like to experience it for the first time let others do so
I'd add hints and veiled references to that as well as direct spoilers.
CECE YOOO
o7 ,no one like a spoil sport
A wild Cece has been spotted!
"My mind just went to Hades." IT'S SPREADING ❤️😂❤😂
We had Wet Hades, now we have Sky Hades. Who's next? 😂
YES what a beautiful interpretation for a friend of Casper to make ❤
Wet hades!!!
Thunder Hades!
Wet Hades lmao
Fun fact! The original creator of the musical (Jorge), wrote and composed the music himself and documented his process on tik tok. He also happens to star as the lead role of Odysseus.😊
He also played the winions, the crew, and Polyphemus
"Neo, avenge your father. Kill the brothers of Hector."
Neo is short for Neoptolemus...the son of Achilles. Achilles killed Hector then was killed by Paris (Hector's younger brother).
Correct me if im wrong which I most likely am, but was achiles not killed after the horse?
@@marijnyboy8402 Nope,years before that
@@user-uw3ld9pe2n thank you
off topic but fuck neo 😭
@@ian3523 lmao mood. he's an a**hole no matter what material you're reading. from the original text to the Song of achilles
An eagle in the sky was seen in antiquity to be a portent from Zeus. The eagle is associated with Zeus. So the eagle cry in the background when the thunderous (ha) voice arrived was basically announcing Zeus.
Tragically that's not an eagle but a red-talked hawk, but that misconception is so deeply anchored that it'll take a brave creator to try and fight it
(Also eagles do NOT sound majestic so that doesn't help)
@@draeonic but i love that for america eagles look majestic but dont sound it ITS PERFECT!
Oh boy you’ve summoned the WINIONS!!!!
WINIONS TO ME!!!!
Another fun fact. Jorge said that a lot of his inspiration for this musical was drawn from Video Games and Anime, instead of traditional musical theatre
Which is funny because so many poeple then immediately compare it to hamilton (I haven't seen it so I have no idea if it is accurate)
When Odysseus left, Telemachus was 1. At this point, he is 11, because the war lasted for 10 years. And then Odysseus takes 10 years to get home.
Wouldn’t he be 11 by the end of the Trojan war, 1 when it started, lasted 10 years. He would be 11.
@@whitenobeard I am an engineer, how did I mess up 10+1? Thanks. 98 people and you're the first to correct it.
@@tgedragon9008 no problem, I've seen actual math teachers mess up 7 - 3 so it could've been worse.
I had hoped to see the Animatics again. But listening to the new version is also more than fine. Welcome to the World of Epic ☺️
we suggested in the discord, because of the whole rights thing with the originally released songs, it may be better to do the new versions instead
@@DnDAddictUK That's very fair. I hope that the EPIC team gets paid soon and it gets all settled. I personally do prefer the original versions for the most part but that's also just because I listened to them first. The remade songs are definitely not bad
for some context, the horse and the infant is not in the odyssey, its the ending of the iliad. the odyssey begins technically with song 3. also, the people ody calls out to, (diomedes, agamemnon, menelaos, teucer, ajax and neo) are not in odys crew, they are fellow kings and generals with their own crews
No it's in the odyssey, iirc the odyssey starts with the final battle of the Trojan war ( if you don't count the bit with telemachus (I don't think I spelled that correctly))
@@agarts1043 nope, odys tale starts with ismarus
@@jayden_arsonew well ok it technically doesn't *start* with the Trojan horse but the Trojan horse is in it
@@agarts1043 it's not though
@@jayden_arsonew the odyssey is literally where the story was first recorded I just checked, if you don't believe me look it up
Half an hour just for the first song? I can already tell I'm going to like this series of reactions!
Loved the reaction, guys!! Super excited to see your journey through the sagas!
Just some things to those that are hearing for the first time (no spoilers):
- Jorge Rivera-Herrans, the creator and songwriter is the va for Odysseus;
- Jorge has stated before that he's a big video game and anime fan and it translates really well in some songs, especially with the battle scenes;
- There's an interesting distinction between the musicality for both mythological creatures and human caracters, mainly the fact that gods can summon choirs and harmonies to back them up, while for humans it have to be diagetic;
- The musical is based on the events of The Odyssey yes, however, Jorge also took some liberties with the story, so not a source for actual historic knowledge, but still pretty good;
- Throughout all the sagas, there are a lot of recurring motifs, and melodies and even instrumentation that give us really cool and/or heartbreaking moments, so keep your ears out for those. Specifically the "danger is nearby motif", really prominent in this song and other key moments, that signify imminent danger Odysseus and his crew are about to face;
- For animatics: it is important to remember that even though Jorge has given us a pretty good idea of what he envisioned while creating the songs and what he expects for produtions down the line, nothing is a 100% set in stone, so most of the animations are the artists own interpretation of the events of the songs. Still, most of them do a great job at setting the mood or helping visualize certains events. I would absolutely check them out, there are some great fan favorites out so.
Can't wait to see what you guys think of the whole thing! Keep it up 🫶🏼
Thanks so much for all this fantastic information! I can't wait to check out all the sagas!!
I will just add most of the characters have their own dedicated music instrument with humans having more traditional one while gods and mythical creatures are more synth
You explained this so much better than I ever could
5:37 - Jorge (who is the composer and the one singing Odysseus's role) was definitely influenced by Hamilton haha. And it was Zeus speaking, haha. The thunderclap was his introduction.
He is also Puerto Rican like Lin-Manuel Miranda!
And he auditioned for Hamilton in Puerto Rico. 🤣
What is it with Puerto Ricans being insane composers and musicians? 😂😂😂
An important note for Epic, it is a loose adaptation of the Odyssey that takes creative liberties to tell its story better! Very important to keep in mind if you notice there are differences between it and the source material.
ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
I think only and animated film could do this musical justice, this goes so hard than doing on an stage it’s almost impossible, maybe with a huge budget and a lot of creativity, but I would 100% support any attempt of putting this were more people could see it.
I think definitely animated TV series!
I'm sure someone has told you this before but Odysseus in this is voiced by Jorge! The creator and writer of Epic
ONE OF US!!!
I really recommend watching some animatics to help with the storytelling
I personally prefer to listen to the songs first then watching an animation so not to be manipulated with the animator's version!
@@m1sh474 that’s fair
@@m1sh474 most animatics are pretty faithful to what's going on, if that's what you mean. And it helps process what's going on if someone is not familiar with the original story. But you do you. And I would never turn down getting two reaction videos per song anyway:)
If Jorge hadn’t taken it down, I would’ve recommended the official livestream, since it includes just enough context and animation to be understood, and all from Jay himself, so you’re not playing a game of telephone. I get why he didn’t keep it up since it would really hurt streaming numbers, but it would’ve been great for reactions…
@@danieldavid3766 let's hope it goes up later.
I’m so excited for this epic journey! I hope one day the animations are watched as well to fit, they assist the story amazingly
100%
You really should watch the animatics. So many great ones and they help a ton.
Bro, as long as you rewind a little after every pause, you can pause as much as you want!! Im loving every second of this. instant sub.
Everyone who is new to EPIC should know this; listen to the official albums, especially for the Troy and Cyclops Sagas. Jorge has had issues with not getting the royalties for the original 2 albums. So he reworked them and released the "official" albums, remastering them. So you're not missing anything by ignoring the original two.
This is what we told DJ which is why he is doing the new versions not the ones with animatics etc
Jay pulled a Taylor Swift and I could not be prouder 😊😂
Alternative titles to The Odyssey and How would you sum up the Odyssey?
1) and you thought your commute was bad...
2) Odysseus and crew and the... oh my gosh! please don't touch that!
3) the defining details between what we call an ancient hero versus what we refer to now as an ancient champion.
Telemachus was just born when Odysseus left, ten years of war+ ten years to get home, he was around 20 when his dad returned
I can't with these timings for the pauses XDDDD just before the big moments XD
Welcome to the addiction that is the EPIC The Musical! You're now one of us >:D
This is basically what DJ does in ALL his reactions...the Herd (his Patrons) find it hilarious...he does it when he is doing the monthly livestream too through Patreon...😂
@@rulab OMG that's hilarious 😂 I guess I'll be looking around the channel 😂
i am so excited to have another reaction
Welcome to the Epic the Musical Fandom! Odysseus is voiced by Jorge! And the deeper voice is Zeus voiced by Luke Holt! I can definitely tell y’all are going to love this journey >:) Also this musical is still not done only 6 Sagas are out
uh yea youre totally right its thunder hades :D
Idk who you are but i am SO PSYCHED youre diving into this!
Welcome to EPIC: the Musical! We have cookies! ^^
I'd love to see you both react to the animatics as you go through this journey. Every song is a banger and the animatics drive the story so much harder as you go along. All I'll say is to make sure you react to things in order as messing up can cause spoilers.
jorge has said hamilton has been one of his big inspirations, if you ever get around to some cut songs/bts stuff you'll see that even more. Also, each character has their own instrument and motifs/other aspects that makes their music distinct. if youre able to pick up on that, its really interesting
You re the only channel that i don’t mind them not watching the animatics cause first of all it ll help jorge s views and most importantly i LOVE the fact that you re so focused on the lyrics and appreciate how much of a genius is Jorge
Most of the reactors love the instruments, the pace , but you guys are different ❤
Keep up and thank you so much
Thank you so much! That's really lovely of you to say! I am definitely hoping to revisit this saga with the animatics after I have watched through the other Sagas... will be interesting to come back with context and see the images
This is SO good! I'm right there with you needing this performed...I hope eventually (soon) there is the budget for the first performance of this somewhere big...Broadway, West End (my preference lol)...anywhere!
Thank you so much Panda for your insight too! This was so much fun to watch with the two of you together
That's why he's fighting for his royalties so he can get it on stage faster. But definitely it needs to be on Broadway and The West End and have a touring group too. Just everywhere for everyone to see!
jorges been saying if this ever hits the stage, he wants it to be a cirque de soleil production, since they have more possibilities for the fantasy ish aspects of the musical
It's Zeus that is singing with Odysseus
This reaction is really something different. It is deep, and Panda knows so much about the things, it makes that so much better. Please, record all the other songs, I want to watch them all with you guys!
This was such a delight and so insightful! I’m so excited you’re going to be watching the Troy Saga, and fingers crossed that you react to the rest of Epic as well over time!
The baby situation does exist in the original Homeric stories, but it’s almost an afterthought mention in a much later scene, and I think it’s a different person who is involved with dealing with Hector’s infant son. (There *is* a fragment of a story that has Odysseus being the one involved, but I don’t think it was written by Homer.)
I never caught the similarity to the Lion King 2 song but I definitely hear it! So glad you're racing to this musical. Welcome to the obsession!
YESSSS!!! Another one of the best and favorite reactors finally got into EPIC!!! We are so thankful, and we promise you'll enjoy it!!! (even if through tears haha)
Ohoho, more people reacting to Epic? I’m so excited!!!!
Since I haven't seen anyone mention this here is a few things to know: Each character has at least one instrument tied with them, that a special feature we'll come back to later. Whenever a god sings the can summon back up vocalists to sing with them since they are so powerful, however whenever a human character sings whenever there are back up vocals the being has to be there.
You'll notice in the series that some of the more powerful characters will get a sort of chorus behind them chanting their names in the background, signifying their roles of power.
But Zeus is the only one who doesn't have that sort of introduction. He's so significantly powerful, the only thing that announces his presense is the sound of thunder booming in the background, as well as the eagle shown here (even if it's a hawks cry and not an eagle).
“Neo avenge your father and kill the brothers of Hector”
Neo (full name Neoptolemus) is the son of Achilles who died in war with an arrow to the heel
PLEASE REACT TO THE ANIMATICS!!! I recommend reacting to gigi's Just A Man animatic. If you want to relisten to this song, I also recommend reacting to gigi's animatic as well (her The Horse and The Infant & Just A Man animatic are connected)
I do wanna say that a lot of the animatics were directly off of livestreams from Jorge where he talks about what he see happening during the songs. I think a few of them he's even used in his livestreams, because they are the closest to Canon that he has seen people animate. I love them!
Oh I LOVE your analysis, this is excellent
lol "Drop your morals" is such good unintentional foreshadowing
you can react to the new versions and then watch the animatics (?)
I have been avoiding all the reactors for Epic...until I saw that you were jumping into the fray. :)
Same
19:40 close enough that is Zeus.
But one intersting thing to keep in mind in the future every character gave an instrument that resemble them. Ex Ody have a guitar snd that change base from a classic to an electric one when he get into strategy mode.
Also there is a difference between mortals and gods background core. Mortals have real people singin in the back while gods have a "fabricated" background of singers that suport the devines and ar created by them. You can see this in this song when zeus summon voices to say "i don't think you're ready" or "if you don't end him now you have no one left to save you" to make the moment more impactful
Jorge Rivera-Herrans, the composer of Epic and the voice for Odysseus, was born in Puerto Rico. As you mentioned near the beginning, it reminds you of Hamilton. Lin-Manuel Miranda is also Puerto Rican, so it stands to reason they could have had similar influences in musical styles.
One of us one of us one of us
Can't wait for you guys to experience the rest of this work of art! Truly it's been a highlight of recent works, and being able to hear it for the first time is just magical
I'm sitting here, enjoying the reactions, and what gets my sub is the 'They're almost as bad as making deals with the Fae' xD I'm loving this, excited to see yalls continued reactions :D
You really should make a full series from listening to this
I will say that if you were wanting to watch the animatics for the first 2 sagas after listening to the new official versions of them you would be able to continue with the animatics from Saga 3 (Ocean Saga) onward since they use the official versions of the songs (that jorge gets royalties from)
So glad you guys are reacting to the new versions of the first two sagas to support Jorge! He deserves all the praise for this musical!
czcams.com/video/wKScp-O92ks/video.htmlsi=NvKBi7pqYzX3o3x5
^^If you’re interested, this link is a recording of the livestream that Jorge did the night before the Thunder Saga came out (admittedly it’s not his recording, but it was the best I could find) but it’s all six sagas (so far) in order, with the new versions of the first two, and it’s a good mix of lyrics on the screen, a few stage directions, and for certain songs, artwork and animatics that were commissioned by Jorge himself. It’s probably one of the best ways to experience the story as it exists right now!
Jorge (Jay) and Lin are both from Puetro Rico, and studied music together. Jay went to Notre Dame in the USA and was very active in theater there.
Ack! I'm so glad more people are finding this musical. Get ready for an awesome ride!
oh i cant wait for you guys to react to alll the other sagas. they are all truely EPIC
YEAAAAH MORE EPIC REACTIONS THIS IS LIFE!!!! WITH OR WITHOUT ANIMATICS, THIS IS AWESOME ❤❤❤❤❤ hope to see u guys in the next songs :3
This song is basically do you damn a child to the underworld now or do you damn yourself later
Fun fact! The person who voices Odysseus is Jorge Rivera-Herrans, the creator of Epic! I love the original versions but the updated ones are awesome and I think I love them more! You should see the animatics because they are BEAUTIFULL. They use the old versions though, no new ones yet.
Fun facts about the sounds is that each prominent character has their own instrument/sound associated with them, if you hear backing vocals and it isn’t a god then it has to be the crew or someone else in universe, but the Gods can summon their own backing vocals like what Zeus did in this song. If there isn’t a god summoning them then odds are it’s the crew witnessing, and reacting to the events in the story.
a little something so you guys can experience this musical better:
1.Every important character is represented by a specific instrument, you'll notice that as you continue listening :) its sooo cool
2. the backing vocals you hear (the call backs) in every god song, or any song in which a god appears,
represent that the gods are so powerfull, they can like summon their own vocals. When there is no god in the song or in the scene, the backing vocals come from Odysseous's crew :)
3. Jorge uses different motifes in specific scenes. And there this one called the "danger motif" which is basically like..3 notes that are used whenever something dangerous is about to happen..its melody is the same but the motif itself is used differently depending on the situation...so listen carefully :)
5. There are animatics for each song! and they are all made by the fanbase and epic community, they are sooo good and are really great to help you undestand everything visually, you should definately check them out!
Hope this helps :)
Jorge (hor-hay) is Puerto Rican like Lin Manuel Miranda, so there's some of that cultural influence. Jorge said anime was a big influence, and I swear, one of these songs sounds straight out of "Attack on Titan."
I assure you now if you are this invested after the first song, you will be soooo invested by song 5! Great reactions!
Yea this musical goes hard excited for this musical series
POTENTIAL SPOILERS from Greek mythology explaining where the baby fits in in Greek mythological history cannon for those interested…
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I can’t remember if the baby’s death was stated in the Iliad or the Odyssey explicitly or shown in them… buuuut… there is mythology around this and it’s WORSE.
Odysseus (or one of his men, Neoptolemus/Pyrrhus, assuming on Odysseus’s orders throws baby Astynax (son of the fallen Prince Hector) from the wall of the castle to his death as a red splat pancake… RIGHT in front of Andromache, Hector’s wife and the baby’s mother as the Greek soldiers deliberately held her to watch this.
All versions I know end up with baby dead and worse, Andromache ends up given to Neoptolemus as a slave I think
Now… the main basis around this that I can remember from school (someone with better knowledge please correct me if I’m wrong or missing some important ones) are
1.) the play “The Trojan Woman” written by Euripides (same guy who gave us the Bacchae which… has its own Super horrifically fucked up moments)
2.) another play entitled “The Trojan Women” on the same subject by Seneca
3.) The Metamorphoses by Ovid
4.) Little Iliad (unclear authors?)
5.) The Sack of Troy (unclear author)
We got another one guys!!! I cant wait to see more of your reactions to the epic saga its so good😄
It is Zeus which is represented with the eagle sound and thunder
Love your guys’ commentary! Can’t wait for you to see future songs!
[[[ORDER OF SONGS]]]
[The Troy Saga]
-The horse and the infant
-Just a man
-Full speed ahead
-open arms
-Warrior of the mind
[The Cyclops Saga]
-Polyphemus
-Survive
-Remember them
-My goodbye
[The Ocean Saga]
-Storm
-luck runs out
-Keep your friends close
-Ruthlessness
[The Circe Saga]
-Puppeteer
-Wouldn't you like
-Done for
-There are other ways
[The Underworld Saga]
-The underworld
-No longer you
-Monster
[The Thunder Saga]
-Suffering
-different beast
-Scylla
-Mutiny
-Thunder bringer
That is all the songs for now. I think more songs are coming in October but im not sure.
Some songs I recommend reacting to back to back like -Polyphemus and Survive
-Keep your friends close and Ruthlessness
-Done for and There are other ways
-and Suffering and Different beast
Oh my GOD, I see Power Ranger merch in the background!
Yesss I'm obsessed haha! Even have a Green Ranger Cosplay
This musical is going to be approximately 2 hours long. It's also good to keep in mind that most animatic still function with the remade 2 sagas since it isn't a huge change in pacing and little to not change in actual lyrics.
Bonus tip- Each main character is represented by their own instrument which you can pick up how they influence each other.
me: "nOO the next best part is about to happen don't pause it nOW"
Istg this was ✨STRESSFUL✨ to watch. Every👏damn👏 time👏 you guys paused just before a build up...
Welcome to Epic!! I love that you are listening to just the songs. So many reactors watch the animatics and I find they get caught up on the visuals and don't appreciate the lyrics enough!
10:29 i have to tell you getting blind into this is a better experience than if you know what is suppose to happened alao the creator, Jay, is also the main character voice.
Also this musicul have 2 acts each act having 20 songs that are devided into sagas 5 sagas are in act one that are already out and 5 in act 2 with only the thunder saga out
Please please react to the animatics! They give so much more context to the story. I made a playlist on my channel with my personal favorites/recommendations in watch order so you don’t have to go searching. You are in for a wild journey with this musical. I can tell you are gonna love it!!
Peter Barber said he wants to sing Zeus if this hits the stage. CAN YOU FREAKING IMAGINE THAT???? Operatic bass Zeus would blow everyone away. End the show right there in the first song, guys, it'll be hard to top that. And don't you dare spoil yourself yet, but after you've heard the original, go over and watch Casper's cover of Poseidon's song. As you said, this is blowing up all over CZcams. At this rate, VoicePlay will be doing a cover before it even hits the stage!
You need the the animation. Contact Mortis and he will let you know which one.
Your pause timing is insane....
I'm so glad to see new (to me) reactors getting into epic.
Jorge did take a few creative liberties with the series, the important things are mostly the same.
The main animatic creators are actually planning to rerelease their videos with the new audio (including any adjustments to match them) so I definitely appreciate if you watched them.
I'm so excited to hear your reactions and analysis! Welcome to Epic!
i think if youd like to see the animatics with it and still listen to the new version of the songs maybe you could listen to the song and then an animatic in the same video? That way you can just focus on the audio and lyrics first and then watch it all happen with a bit more context
this is going to be........ Epic (sorry, not sorry)
I hope people are now only listening to EPIC’ Original Concept versions. Jay (Jorge) explained some of the reason/problem on his channel!
Luke Holt is Zeus. The man has by far the best voice for the God of Thunder that I've ever heard in media ever.
Such a perfect name too, Hold, Lightning Bolt, Electruc Zolt, the role was made for him.
Sorry that’s all I could think of 😂
Heres fun game to play while listening to epic:
A character will have a signature sound for them, its either people's voice or an instrument
There are (I think) 10 character that has signature sound: guess who is it and thier signature sound, GLHF!
I knew you'd nerd out. Every saga is incredible.
One really cool thing about how the music is created for this musical is that every lead character has a instrument associated with them, an by the rules of the epic universe the mortal characters backround music/vocals is composed of the things around them, like other soldiers or creatures while the gods dont have to abide by the rules and can basically summon their own backup vocals. So its a really cool and smart way do differentiate teh different characters and gods
Welcome to epic.its an amazing musical. Looking forward to you enjoying this. Yes jorge is a lin manuel fan. Also he sings odysseus.
The animatics are amazing they do help but listen to the new versions 1st.
The epic community is so welcoming.
Great reaction! Loved the insight and enthusiasm.
Would it be an idea to react to a song (new version) and then react to an animatic afterwards? Not only might it be cool to see what changed in the new version of a song, but it would be such a shame for the animatics not to get as many eyes on them anymore because a new version of the audio dropped. You're already pointing out that it's better to support the new audio, but the artists that made the animatics deserve that support too!
The person who voices Odysseus is actually Jorge! He’s so talented! And at this point I’m convinced he’s either blessed or he made a deal. Im just not sure which it is
If you can, you should try to find a way to react to the livestream Jay did for the release of the Thunder Saga. It featured all the songs leading up to the Thunder Saga (with the redone versions of the Troy and Cyclops Sagas) complete with background visuals, onscreen lyrics and stage directions; I could share the recording I found but I'm not sure if it will allow me, since CZcams can be weird about sending links in comments
The singer of odyseus was also jorge hevera (the creater of the musical)
Telemachus is 10 years old at this point. He left home when Telemachus was 1, the war lasted for 10 years and this song depicts the END of the war. His journey home is just about to start..
the baby being murdered by Oddysseus is not actually in the Odyssey but it's in other greek tragedies
Welcome to the Winion army, my friends
great vid! but also has anyone ever told you you look like a younger jack mcbrayer??