Jarrett Allen Opens Up about the Nets Sacrificing Culture to Chase Superstars
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- čas přidán 28. 04. 2024
- Our guest this week is big man for the Cleveland Cavaliers, Jarrett Allen. He is an excellent guest and are psyched to share this ep with you tomorrow. In this teaser clip, Jarrett talks about his time with the Brooklyn Nets and the unique experience of being a part of a positive culture led by Sean Marks and Kenny Atkinson to going after big super stars like Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving and what it's like to go from starting to being benched for DeAndre Jordan.
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That Caris LeVert, DiAngelo Russell, Spencer Dinwiddie, Jarett Allen 2018-19 Nets team. LeVert got injured but they still made the play-offs. Fun team.
I loved the 2018-19 NBA year
@@paisley8865same, that year and playoffs was a lot going on. a bunch of teams were competing, not just the Warriors and Cavs anymore. Toronto, Houston, Philly, Boston, Milwaukee, Utah, Portland, OKC, even the Clippers took the Warriors to 6.
Levert was a stud that year
Joe Harris as well
1st year Rodions Kurucs was fuego
Jarrett Allen seems like a genuine good dude and he’s doing some solid things in Cleveland 💪🏽🏀
Cleveland loves him
Literally would've commented almost exact word for word
@@aarondekker1834 you should’ve! This is a safe place! 🤷🏽♂️🤝🏽👌🏽🏀
Love JA, wish the Thunder could've found a way to snag him.
He and Dwight Howard both play alot bigger than their 6'9" frame.
One action that shows you how the Nets organization works, they started Deandre Jordan over him and Allen was leagues better than him even at that time.
Dawg them mfs was tripping
@@jbtreshawnthey were and then traded all the good role players for harden
That's what you get when you let players run your org. They might've been nice if they refused the DJ bullshit and passed on Harden
@@DeeRGHealth was a massive problem but they’re referring to KD/Ky pressuring the coach to start DJ over Allen despite Allen clearly being the superior player
I don't mind all the trades they did. Sure, they went overboard and shoulda stayed with KD/Kyrie duo.
I honestly never understood why they let Allen go. He was faster, better at pick and roll, better defending.
One of the nets biggest mistakes during that era was starting DJ over him
That was just a symptom of the problem of giving KD and Kyrie too much power
@@jamesh7469exactly.
and trading half the team for Harden
@@MrBmick79In hindsight any team is making that trade regardless of what y’all say
that nets team was a poetry in motion, that's probably the most fun ive ever watched a team have
Ummmm 2019 warriors
@@firstnamelastname9215 nah
@@firstnamelastname9215 the 2019 warriors were relying on their starters, their bench was depleted because of age. so KD and Steph, Klay had to carry hard which resulted in them getting injured
Yes, then the GM and owner listened to Kyrie Irving. rofl
A wild take on a 42-40 team that made no noise in the playoffs. 5 years later and only 4 players remain from that young team, and Dinwiddie is likely at his last stop
I used to see him shopping at Whole Foods in Brooklyn by himself he is mad cool
Dude is by far one of my favourite players along with Steven Adams. Money hasn't gone to their heads, still the same guys they were before the big contracts and just good down to earth dudes.
Stephen Adams used his money to build a basketball court in my local city in NZ I believe, also doesn't play for the national team for a moral issue as well. And all feedback from fellow/ex teammates is all positive
I loved that Nets team, they had great chemistry and played so hard, they were so close to being a seriously good team. They absolutely destroyed it, and for nothing.
So refreshing to see so many positive comments on Allen. Even though I’m a Bulls fan I’ve always admired watching him play. He always leaves it out on the floor, such a humble and kind soul I wish him all of the success with his career it’s nice to see players who don’t let the money change them.
Nets will forever be a cautionary tale
100%, In more ways than one
It happened to us twice bro :(
The funniest part is I don’t know which failed super team you’re referring to 😂
@@jkacvbhijfn the KG, Truth plus JET for like 50 first round picks and Billy King's career was the one that started the downhill slide. It went from that, to sending poison pill fourth year contracts to Allen Crabbe and Joe Harris (Joe Harris hit but Cavs matched before trading w us).
@@jkacvbhijfnhe said forever. Referring to both
Couldn't believe it when they gave DeAndre Jordan that contract of $20 million/2 yrs (if I recall correctly) and traded Allen who was looking like a monster in the paint. It was like the Garnett/Pierce trade "lets compete right this minute" all over again
The Nets with KD and Kyrie was great, they went wrong trading for Harden. They had the depth and size they needed before they traded for James.
Facts 💯… Then have Steve Nash coach 3 dominating superstars .. Recipe for disaster …
If Kyrie doesn’t get hurt they had a pretty great chance of winning the championship, harden was already hurt, then Kyrie gets hurt and kd almost beats the bucks by himself, if they win that series I’m almost positive they beat the Trae Young Hawks
bro, that team was loaded. 2 deep at every position. I remember watching them at Xmas and thinking there was no way they wouldn't be in the Finals
Nah they were good with Harden. It’s just Harden and Kyrie got injured in the second round of the playoffs. If they were healthy they would’ve won it all.
They were unstoppable once they acquired harden. Stop with this revisionist history. Injuries derailed them
Jarrett allen is a very solid player. Really glad hes doing well in cleveland
This dudes smile is so great
What a lovely, lovely dude.
that nets team was so frickin fun 🤣🤣🤣
My favorite players are guys like SGA and Joker, whose primary asset is their brain. Sometimes guys like that get overlooked (like SGA & Joker!) and I feel like Allen is one of those guys. They work on their weaknesses year after year until there aren’t any.
Seems like a helluva nice guy.
As a net fan i miss dlo j Allen Cari’s levert joe Harris the bench mob they played with so much heart and they played together. The nets fumbled the bag and the drafted Jalen and levert its such a shame 😢
my heart hurt when we traded Allen smh. I am a huge fan and will continue to follow his career until the end.
He seems like a great locker room guy
Jarrett Allen seems like such a good dude
told my boy right after the trade it wasn’t gonna work.. he was essential to the team at that point.
I like his peaceful competitiveness .
He appears to be a very humble person .
The closest the nets have come to giving me the feeling that first Jason Kidd nets team gave me. We had Kittles and KVH our starting shooters/vets, AWill and Mac as our blue collar role playing bigs, RJ and Collins were rookies getting minutes, Kmart was an exciting young dpoy candidate and Kidd was the mvp. They played with joy and it showed.
Looking forward to the full pod. Jarret seems like a really cool dude
As a Heat fan it shocked me. I couldnt believe they did that. They had a great thing going
man i loved that allen, levert, dinwiddie, dloading lineup. hated it when they brought kyrie and gave up in dlo
Nah the kd and kyrie trade was fine the problem was including allen in the harden deal thats where the nets fucked up
@@markelscott100that team was still good, but man imagine if they still had those pieces, and their draft assets to go make other trades around the margins. Bruce Brown and Jeff Green were like their next best players
That iteration of the nets was exciting and promising
God damn, that 2018 Nets team was a fun team to watch.
that nets team was the best, lets go jarrett
Jordan starting over Allen was crazy. Maybe KD wanted to play with his boy
that’s exactly what it was
@@DeeRG for allen to have started and finished the games bc deandre was washed by that time
@@DeeRG idc about what your options were, i'm telling you what would've been a better outcome
@@DeeRGyou thought you did something lmao. “Nuh unh pal, not an option”🤓🤓🤓 Allen solely on the floor would’ve been the best scenario, not him finishing, not him just starting. He was just better than deandre. All dude said was facts, Deandre wasn’t it lol. People on the internet man🤣
@@DeeRG it did have a bearing on defensive and offensive outcomes between who started and who was on the bench majority of the game
It's good to hear his perspective on the KD & Kyrie coming to Brooklyn. Initially The Nets was a good young team with a young Coach in Atkinson then the team got blown up to cater to the Stars.
Yes, it was fun to watch, they had put together something nice, like the Clippers before Kawhi, I remember that great series against the Warriors where they stole 2 games, but in both cases they are just that, nice stories, but to win you need a star, maybe two.
As a NBA fan, Iove Jarrett. He's a man's man
I love Jarrett Allen's game. Would love to see him in a sixers uniform, although I don't know how he would mesh with Joel Embiid. The Nets were foolish to trade him and Cleveland would be even foolish to trade or not extend him.
He seems like a wholesome guys man
JJ!! for the LIFE of me, please get ADAM MORRISON on the podcast. i remember being a kid & hearing about your guys’ comparisons!! i’m sure he has plenty of stories about your comparisons, his career & kobe stories! get him on please!!
The energy coming out of that team I remember it, they had such a good thing going on and then they decided to just destroy it completely.
Easily one of my favorite Cavs ever
Reminds me of Tim Duncan
I see how you would say that. They appear to have similar personalities
@@sheldonm def quiet and humble
Wish the big man the best i liked him a lot on the nets.
18-19 Nets were creating real buzz.. I understood Kyrie and KD and letting go of Dlo, but getting rid of the rest of the core for harden ruined it
This dude is going to work in the league some day.
shout out to Allen
2018-2019 nets was a fun one
That roster is what made BKN a desirable destination in the first place, replacing almost the entire team made zero sense. Wish they’d simply added KD while keeping that roster intact.
Jarrett is the guy everyone likes
i really miss that nets team
He’s a cool dude
The D'Lo Nets had such a vibe! They had great potential! It's a shame what the organization did breaking that squad up for KD and Kyrie!
Where’s the full vid?
Asking on behalf of Cleveland
🔥🔥🔥🔥
I knew that librarian reminded me of somebody
Serves them right
We all saw it happening at the time and knew they were messing up some amazing chemistry that was very rare and special. You see KD and DeAndre Jordan coming and just roll your eyes…
FINALLY
Ive been begging the pelicans to make a move for this guy for years. Great player and obviously a great guy, Cleveland is lucky
Begging? How? Were you camping in front office?
No spacing between him and Zion
Ironic because JA was probably one of the best defenders slow down Embid outside of Al Horford. I even remember that one all star game where he made multiple stops in a row getting the crowd amped
The Nets' biggest mistake was giving the keys to their franchise to Kyrie and KD. They gave them too much power in decision making. That's not what a good leadership does. Now, they are trying to do a rebuild again just 5 years after they got the two douche bags.
I honestly don’t even mind them adding a star or two. They needed to. But they should NOT have traded Jarrett. We forget the star chasing almost worked had KDs big toe not been on the line. But if they had Jarrett there WITH KD that wouldn’t have mattered cause it wouldn’t have been a
1 possession game with his defense involved
That's exactly what they did. They had a good thing going and they gave it all up for Third Eye Ky snd KD off an achilles tear.
I loved that team SOOO much. After the harden trade I gave up
He has big Steven adams vibes
I wish the warriors can get allen if we ever get an opportunity to
I know Allen and JJ, who this other guy? >
They did it with Paul Pierce, KG,and Deron Williams. Then KD,Kyrie,and Harden. If the nets sneak in the playoffs and the next group of free agents come out, they'll sacrifice again..
Would love to see the Nets move to Baltimore or Pittsburgh. The club seems drowned out in the NYC market - even more so than the Clips in LA.
As someone who admired that team from a distance; the problem wasn't signing KD and Kyrie. The problem was with the other asset acquisition. It was a really good young team and I liked the Dinwiddie, Levert and Allen trio. Then they broke all that up, awful.
JJ’s cohost reminds me of the creepy brother from wedding crashers 👀
It’s wild because the cavs did the same thing giving up all them picks and players for a superstar who might leave 😊
The baby Nets, one of my favorite teams ever ngl
Nets didnt learn the first time with kg and pierce smh
KD and Kyrie together decided to go to Brooklyn. That put the Nets in an impossible position. What were they supposed to say, no. The superstars set the Nets back to square 1. It would be awesome if Sean can get Kenny back to try this again.
Not really you got them for free. Now you got bridges and picks and you still got claxton where tf were they goin w dlo. Nowhere near the bucks orCeltics or cleavland and Philly
He’s too nice to be “Big Man”
If Kyrie *or* James don’t get hurt in the 2021 playoffs, the Nets have a championship and people don’t say anything about how the Nets made a mistake by blowing up Allen’s Nets. Respect to that team Allen was on, but the Nets traded for superstar talent and were on a direct trajectory to a NBA Championship. The Nets traded that “culture” to dominate the eventual champs until James and Kyrie got hurt. Injuries and a pandemic (who saw that coming?) prevented the Nets from winning a title. Championships are hard to win! Can’t blame the Nets for trying to capitalize on the culture that was built. They also weren’t wrong.
Shoulda just stuck with the current irritation and developed chemistry they had the depth and they were a top 10 defense, they shoulda went for pascal siakam if they wanted another all star and kept the picks or most of them
“Don’t go chasing waterfalls. Please stick to the rivers and the lakes that you’re used to…”
The Nets mess up when they traded all their good role players and other assets for Harden who aging and play no defense at all. Should of kept them and ride along with Kyrie and KD straight up
If they had all three healthy for a good stretch of time they were unstoppable
With this scamble these days for teams to just try and stack up on star players you would think that they would look at history and see that it doesn't work out as much as people think. Most of the teams outside of the Lebron led Miami heat are winning championships by developing the players they drafted and plugging in role players here and there. That Nets team was solid and could've kept building. Allen seems like a good guy
Dancing Dudley was the culture
RIP Nets
He’s right smh ever since nets came here it’s been experiment EVERY year!!! The Jarret Allen team was IT!!! We need culture badly in our already cultured borough in NYC!!
If Kenny comes back the Culture can come back. Kenny's good with development and the main reason for DLo's All Star year. Maybe he could set Ben Simmons straight 🤷♂️
Honestly we were better off giving another 1st and keeping allen or not doing the trade at all. Finding something else for lavert
Lifelong Cavs fan here. JA is such an obviously awesome dude, that he became my favorite player on the team very rapidly. Never owned an NBA jersey in my life, but now I own two JA jerseys
I didn't notice him without the headband
The nets were nice af when he was there… maybe with ONE superstar added they could’ve been a problem
I was upset we traded him and replaced him w clax lol but it worked out i guess
i just want to know how many pairs of Kyrie 3s this dude has 😂😂
Just image if the Nets weren’t incompetent and they veto the Harden trade. They would have Allen and Claxton as their bigs. They could have e trade Levert, Dinwiddie or both for more vet pieces but should have kept Allen.
I always thought the Nets would have been better off keeping Allen instead of going after Harden. They had a championship team
Kevin Durants don’t grow on trees , especially for New York’s step child. They did the right thing going for the big 3 .. they also completely mismanaged those superstars once acquired.
imagine seeing Harden's antics over the years and thinking he's gonna put you over the top.
As a nets fan I wished we kept that team together. If anything just sign kd and not kyrie and d jordan
After this happened it slowly got harder for me to care about the Nets anymore. They lost me after they did this
That 2019 Brooklyn team would have been problem for the next few years
They should’ve kept the guys with kd and kyrie they were good and had a deep squad
I'm a nets fan and wanted to Keep JA. DJ was well past his prime. Plus the assets we got from Cleveland didn't turn into anything. All we got was a disgruntled James Harden.😢
What happened with the Nets it's in the past. They are building the culture in Cleveland now and have a lot to prove, cause last year's effort in the Knicks series from Cavs was really bad. Them boys looked scared.