Video není dostupné.
Omlouváme se.
PVP D&D run with some flair
Vložit
- čas přidán 11. 03. 2019
- Humblewood KS: t.co/9Nj9sGTwYQ
I’ll be honest: when I found out it was a big PVP event to start I was slightly annoyed. D&D pvp is fine in the course of a story but I was imagining some basic arena fights.
Music:
The Bywater by Mini Vandals
Tiptoes by Myuu
Jousting is up!
docs.google.com/document/d/1W3l87xR1Y8rw-1FVTdxqdSFRvZxwJu_r-jQHnsvrgio/edit?usp=sharing
yaay
Fantastic!
Super, thanks!
Its very strange that a someone doing Kickstarter project would do a paid sponsorship. One would assume that Kickstarter is a place where creators with a novel idea and a passion, but not the means, could go to get funding to create their project, directly from the audience that wants to see that idea to fruition. But with Humblewood, this doesn't seen to be the case.
Deck of Many's advertising a project like this would leave me to assume that they had enough money in the first place, or at least enough spare capital laying around that they could afford to advertise a project that's already hit its goal. The alternative is that they're using kickstarter funds to do advertising, which I can't imagine would make the backers happy, but IM SURE that's DEFINITELY not the case, right?
So this begs the question: Why advertise for a project that's already hit its goal? Certainly the purpose of putting an RPG on Kickstarter is to find enough of an audience to justify doing a small-to-mid scale print. But by looking at Humbewood's Kickstarter, they've already got their audience, and then some. So why keep advertising?
It all puts a very bad taste in my mouth and I can't figure out why.
Thank you
No, no, no you did not make a mistake what you made was A clerical error.
Ha.
+
*clap. clap. clap*
Yukari Yakumo I hope you have a good dice because you’ll be running from a lot of monsters for that pun(ishment)
There's a story on /r/HFY called "A clerical error" and it currently top 2 there
Highly recommend to read it
Hm. I can't help but put myself in the shoes of the wizard and bard... what's more valuable, 100gp, or a newly minted noble with access to land, artifacts, and influential people, who OWES you 100gp? I'm tempted to say the latter... Wonderfully cool ideas for player vs. player stuff, too!
Newly minted noble with land is good for 100gp a month with ease.
Charge interest on the unpaid debt...
I would agree. A noble who owes you can be milked for all sorts of privileges that would normally be more costly elsewhere. What is more you can have a monopoly on his needs. Maybe he needs a keep on his land cleared of..."vermin". Yout price? A more than fair amount of the treasure found during. Perhaps you need an item that would normally be off limits to a commoner like you...even if you are quite capable. Noble to the rescue. Got a rival you need to put some indirect pressure on? Yeah...
Clearly not political players of culture like ourselves
Hehehe, i love it. Dimir playstyle= most fun playstyle.
Debts > Coin
It was at this point I made a mistake - D&D in a nutshell
We've had some arguments in my group with a player "makes a mistake." My DM tries to remind us that mistakes make for better story telling.
"it was at this moment he knew... he f*cked up."
@Zee Bashew we all would love to see what your friend made and i would love to have a copy for my AL in which i am running H.o.t.D.Q right now.
I was like 1000
It has been argued (at my table anyways) at GREAT LENGTHS that, "Actually, D&D is the Bob Ross school of storytelling... AND there are only Happy Miscalculations." ;o)
Aah yes, you made an AHole character for one reason and still ended up being one for another. Great commitment!
Exactly what I was thinking, though it doesn't quite line up with his Lawful alignment.
@@colinsmith1495 I feel like Lawful Evil is all about bribes and backroom dealings. Otherwise you're stuck being a bureaucrat, doing evil things that are legal by technicality.
Lawful DOES NOT mean following the law.
@@eric_moore-6126 it... it does...
Only that you exploit said law for life haxs
@@MalekitGJ Alignments are weird in D&D. Lawful is more that you live by a code above all else - that can be the law, but it can also be a paladin code, personal code - eg. avoiding violence if at all possible. Chaotic can be no code - maybe ideals if good or neutral, but nothing concrete.
So, you're a noble, but you have no money?
That's maybe the most realistic thing I've ever seen in dnd.
In medieval times, no one was all that well off. The nobles had a better, yes, but not by too terribly much. Castles, for instance, would be pretty small affairs for any noble except an emperor or something. The expansive gothic castles we often think of were later creations; if you were, say, a Knight, you'd be lucky to have a stone "castle" that had as much square footage as a modern suburban home.
Moreover, being "of nobility" is not the same as having all the benefits of a landowner. Since, you know, there's only so much land for a lord to bequeath to all his children. To keep holdings consolidated, most of that wealth got inherited by the eldest son. The secondary sons got basically nothing. They had to make their own way in life.
For instance, it's thought that the First Crusade was as successful for the Crusaders as it was because the leaders of the armies were all Princes, rather than the Kings that fought in later Crusades. The Princes had a vested interest in capturing as much Holy Land as they could, so they could forge Crusader States out of them that they individually would control. While piety certainly played a role, the First Crusade was very much about wealth and land.
Well, he's got land, which is worth a lot on its own.
... As long as it comes with the customary people living there providing an income for the land owner. Which probably was the rub in this case.
This reminds me way too much of my WHFRP campaign... although we did eventually work our way into having lots of cash, mostly through fixing bets on jousting tournaments that my own sergeant-at-arms (another player) won, and by becoming a merchant that trades in the silver mines in my family's domain (only slightly illicitly). The problem with WHFRP is that it is ruthless at reminding you that you need to _spend_ money to live the noble's lifestyle. And if you aren't living the noble's lifestyle then you're effectively, not a noble.
-"All it took was one look at the players I had bribed to know. If i didn't sell one of my incredible prizes. I was FU**ED"
Sounds like the best premise to start a relationship between characters and stablish a motive to go look out for an adventure that I've ever heard
Update: Sang Yup is working on compiling the rules for the trial neatly so people can read it. Right now it's just in shorthand notes, so keep an eye out for that in the next few days :)
This video's kind of inspired me to give a go at D&D DMing, so when the rules are written up, would you kindly link it or something 'cause I would love to do a "campaign" like this.
Hi I never realized that you were from South Africa. What part of the free state are you in?
Any word as of yet, Zee?
Would love to get my hands on this stuff, is it up anywhere? I see the jousting comment.
I noticed that the Jousting rules had a link to the Mage Duels, but the Archery one said it's still incoming. Is that being worked on?
Man I would kill for these events to be put in a module. GUESS ILL HAVE TO MAKE EM MYSELF!
Roleplaying in a nutshell.
Justin lambert put a link here, I’ll be waiting.
Gimme a week folks, I’ll get one thrown together shortly.
ditto
@@justinlambert6826 gimme a week he says.....
Remember the number 1 rule of D&D... No, not “Never split the party”, the other one:
Nothing is ever as it seems.
I love how they both share the first spot XD Dnd in a nutshell : compromise!
I thought number one was "geek the mage"
@@theapexsurvivor9538 That's Shadowrun
@@Blace1018 still applies.
Unless your enemy is an illusionist of course, then you should trust what your eyes and ears tell you completely.
ZeeBashew is easily a pioneer of dnd based youtube channels that isnt an actual campaign or highlights of a popular dnd group
Love ya zee
Who else would you put there? I was thinking XP to Level 3 and Mathew Colville
Yeah plus Davvy Chappy, Puffin Forest and Runesmith.
I mean.. to be fair, that is how he got his start (animating highlights of a popular dnd group), but it's cool to see the direction he took his videos instead
@@nedak1751 Web DM as well, perhaps?
*Disclaimer: I have friends*
Zee! You don't have to make a video trying to convince us that you have friends! We TOTALLY believe you!!
I once played a game where the sorcerer in our party was challenged to a jousting match which he had no chance of winning. As a long time player trying bard for the first time I was a little high on the class and told him not to worry because I had a plan. about and hour later he was waiting in the change room before the match and looking at the full plated knight with a powerful warhorse when from the door to the room in marches a shabby looking horse costume. it was me. I cast disguise self to look more real and we took to the field. right before the match began I rolled a nat 20 to intimidate the horse and inspired the player. right as the knight took off the intimidation check sent him flying into the player's spear with his his with a 25 thanks to my inspiration. the knight was killed and we became wanted criminals for murder but for about five minutes we felt incredible.
death is normal in jousts but a man pretending to be a horse most certainly isn't that's for sure.
Any chance we could get a hold of the rules used?
I'll ask sang yup!
ow nice cant w8
@@zeebashew
Please do! I'm an admin of a AL group and I run a PvP Arena match periodically just to spice things up. Been playing around with survival events and the like but could use the ideas presented here.
If posible please add the rules, or link to the rules on the video description.
Thank you : )
I'd go as far as to pay for it on the DM guild if it would help the creator.
"You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting." - Rufus Sewell's character from A Knight's Tale
Never underestimate the creativity of people finding ways to beat each other up.
Basically "cheating" lol, I luv it.
*Bribes people for help by promising a share of the prize money*
*Wins, but doesn’t get a cash prize*
Mistakes were made...
Yeah, but whose mistake was it? If you specifically promised "part of the prize money" and the people accepted without checking if there was money in the prizes, isn't it their mistake? You've paid them part of the prize money, there is no money, thus their payment is zero.
That said, antagonizing people who have helped you (even if it was in exchange for salary) is a bad idea, so even if you could play it like that you probably shouldn't. What you should do is: you find a way to pay them anyway and mention the reason for the delay. "Thanks for your patience, I hadn't realized there wasn't any prize money, here are your promised wages with a little bit extra." Make them a little bit loyal to you, because even if they're in it for the money now they know that your word is good and that you can be trusted to pay them even if your plans don't go as planned.
The funny thing is, most tourneys will list their prizes ahead of time. This is definitely poor planning.
The real question is: What can they do? Are they going to go to the judges and say, "That guy bribed me to throw the match and didn't pay me!!" 😅
@@KickyFut Yeah, they can do that. Or kill him. :D
Technically, if he didn't get any prize money, he doesn't owe anything, as zero is not a divisible number.
Sure, those bribed would feel duped, but it's not his fault they didn't read the fine print. All he'd have to do is go to court over it and it'd all be over.
3:32 That little Owl Knight is the cutest thing ever.
I WAS ABOUT TO SAY THE SAME ITS FUCKING ADORABLE!
Look at it's tiny beak! And it's little shield! It's such a proud little thing!
He looks like he's just so happy to be there *^*
@Lance Clemings Yeah, they're super-silent murderbirds with giant frowns in real life.
So assassin's would make more sense, but then you don't have the tiny helmet! We need the tiny helmet!
They are until you realize in the book they're supposed to be around six feet tall.
One of my players favorite games was a grand tournament that basically turned into Ultimate Ninja Warrior and rewarded minor magical items. I also let the players tell me what competitions they wanted to compete in, hence this tournament had a pie eating contest and a dance off.
Oh my god a dance off. That had to be a hoot.
Imagine having the dance off right after the pie eating contest.
That would get messy, if you catch my drift...
@@OrangeyChocolate Constitution check every dance round.
I have used this system, and it is awesome! TOTALLY makes player decisions more meaningful. Thanks for covering this!
That whole mini game scenario sounds awesome! The system of writing down spells to cast in secret reminds me a bit of the combat systems in The Burning Wheel.
It reminds me of a cardcame called Yomi. Basically it is rock/paper/scissors with combos and martial artists.
Edit: You mentioned burning wheel. I got mouseguard. Is the system in there like the one you meant?
@@Terrkas0 mouse guard's encounter system is derived from Burning Wheel but actually pretty different
I can already hear it: "Where's my money?" with Stewie Griffon's voice.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS!
This sounds awesome. We played a game almost like this, but we had two characters each. One was down in the arena fighting and the other was a noble up in a tower. There was a pretty straight fight down below while the nobles could bribe, send secret messages and manipulate things related to the arena from above. I really think there lots of opportunities for this setting.
I love how you played the 80s Sports Movie Villain role to the hilt. Cheating like mad to make up for your shortcomings, only to get your just desserts even when you won.
If that owl in armor didn't get you interested in Humblewood, IDK what will.
tomisabum PALIDOWL
A “Powlidan?”
“Owlidan?”
@@Abdega Definitely a Powlidan
Logar3
Powlidan it is then!
Man Zee these videos are fantastic. The way you tell stories is hugely enjoyable and the animation is a lovely cherry on top
These look like great rules for low level casters. I've always held that for high level casters a Spell casting contest wouldn't be combat related, it would be a contest of who can accomplish the most innovative new result with the spells readily available, judged by a jury of other casters. Things like using Web to catch falling players, or animate objects to open a mechanical lock, etc.
Wish Ud share more stories like this in full version! The idea is amazing, and your experience/grp sound fun as hell to witness
I loved the way PVP was run in this video. Fantastic ideas!
Damn this is amazing! I had an idea for a one-shot and I didn't realize it was actually a tournament until I saw this video. I would love to learn more about setting a good PvP Tournament!
i'm in love with how the narration follows the rhythm of the background music for the first third of the video!
I've always wanted to do a skill tourney like this, but themed as the final exam for a multi-disciplinary college.
This is good. You can even go on to have a subplot where someone's trying to use the tourney as either a distraction or part of their plot to get [whatever subversive].
Time for that all wizard(maybe some more scholarly/arcane bards, melee classes and such) party
@@Arenuphis originally I was thinking a 'University/Academy town', where the main industry is that training, and service.
A few major guilds have moved their headquarters nearby so as to poach the best scholars, formal fighters, diplomats, etc from the exam ceremony.
As someone from another episode would say “Have you ever heard of a glyph of warding”
Oh my this is such a good way to begin a game, as well as the under-the-table bribes happening completely spices it up and sets up a great start.
I can't get enough of these things. SO GOOD. Great work, Zee.
Love your stuff zee
But like... Can we get a layout for this rules and set up.... Even more basic guidelines... I would love to DM this
I love the art of the varied onlookers at 2:37! This is definitely a campaign I'd love to learn more about.
I didnt realize you knew Kurtz, that's rad. Also rad story, cool how your DM made the tournament so dynamic and interesting
Sounds like it's time to charge some taxes on your new lands (should be replete with peasants already).
I have done PvP in dnd. I played a tempest cleric... Call lightning is an amazing spell.
finals in a pvp grand tournament. warrior vs paladin.
Paladin uses "Command" - "Forfeit"
Rolls nat 20. Warrior rolls nat 1
Unless you have specific rules then pvp is so terribly balanced and I am sure it gets even worse.
Animation rocks! Beautiful choice of color! Great job Zee!
This sounds like so much fun! :) it’s always fun to see how people game the games.
"The Producers" fantasy style?
Nice story.
It was at that moment he realised...
he f*cked up.
This is a great episode, great way to start a campaign!
Awesome vid Zee! This would be an awesome one shot to run!
3:20 For the record, no, it is not a good idea to give a crow the black materia.
The tournament really sounds like the GM just making it about luck, since every actual class feature would never come into play
It's nice to see D&D videos getting so popular, out of the shadows at last!
This sounds like so much fun! I hope my DM does something like this. Great video, as always!
Easy, just tell them you Will give them extra gold if they wait, go to yours land and start a farming industry or something and boom gold.
You should’ve used a divine soul Sorcerer. That way you could bless people without them knowing with Subtle Spell.
This is a really neat tournament idea. Serious props to your friend. (definitely going to try using this next time) I tried something along the lines of Star Ocean 2 for my tournament. You basically have to find a sponsor that provides you gear to use in the tournament (think medieval nascar, fights are ad space/commercial for shop quality) Meaning the party couldn't use all their OP loot to win the fights easily but depending on which shop they get sponsored by they would have either +2 weapons with lower quality armor but 2 healing potions or +1 weapons with +1 armor and 1 healing potion Or mundane gear but several vials of healing potions and scrolls. (these are just examples there were dozenes shops all with different perks) You were limited to what the shop gave you with no time to really rest between matches (no short rest) so using your recovery items wisely was key to surviving till the end of the day as well as being tactical with who was taking damage (best to spread it out). Tournament lasted 3 days total. If someone was knocked out they were not allowed to rejoin that day but if the party made it to the next day they were allowed to join again. Buffing before the fight started was not allowed and the whole thing was sealed in a magic arena with two purposes. A) to prevent spell casting from outside (no cheating). B) keep the crown safe from rogue fireballs. (a story for a different time)
But I like the idea of a more skill check focused arena. I did some skill checks but not nearly as much as I would have liked looking back. There was also a bid system for each fight meaning if you thought you could win a fight easily it was better to send only 1 party member and conserve resources than spend all of it on a fight you know you will win. (enemy combatants were doing the same tho so if you underbid you might be overwhelmed an lose points for nothing, trade off tho was you could force opponents to over bid then fold, sure it cost you points but it could set up two strong opponents to fight next round) So it challenged the players to make choices about how much they wanted to risk each fight. You could forfeit a match you thought was to tough but you would still lost that minimum bid. (think poker betting, as the tournament goes on the pot minimum bet keeps going up meaning you have to bet more each round) The whole thing was a mock war style fighting. I E don't over commit resources to a losing fight. If you want to win the war you have to pick your battles.
Overall it worked well from a creative combat intention but now looking back and after seeing some great ideas from this video I wish I had incorporated more skill based side games. (they were busying trying to unravel a few different story plots tho between matches so maybe it was for the best)
This was a huge source of inspiration for 1 of the campaigns I currently run! 7 factions with 3 champions each (including the PCs) issuing and accepting public challenges (with the catch that you cant issue a challenge later if youve already won at it, so PCs have to get creative with skills and save their best for last). Competiting twice a week and needing to win at least once a week to stay in the game. All with oppurtunities to make and break alliances with other factions. They even recently framed a competitor for attempted assisination.
but... you set your character up for evil and fighting other players...
on the other hand, the lawful part of lawful evil may include honoring your promises and it's generally a good idea to keep those when other players are involved anyway...
this sounds absolutely amazing
That. Is. Awesome. Infinite props to your DM, thats awesome
Wow. This actually gives me a better idea on how to work on that Orc Colosseum tournament i had been thinking
i actually really enjoyed this narrative about your huge dilemma of essentially being indebted to these guys that helped you win.
i love how you legit have 0 dislikes XD man its so rare on youtube once you hit the thousand mark, great vid man
glorious, simply glorious
That... sounds awesome beyond words. I'll definitely have to consider something similar!
I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.
This sounds like the single best thing ever.
Like, damn.
I, for one, love this idea.
Doing this. Amazing video once again Zee
This is ingenious and now I want to run or play something like this
Despite that he's always pitching his sponsor, he delivers excellent stuff! Keep it up!
Can't sneak that Gimli helmet design past me, no sir
Wow! Love it! Excellent idea!!
I kinda love it that you bribed those two guys with a fraction of your prize money but not only you, but both of the NPCs, just forgot there was no prize money.
This sounds like a legitimately awesome competition and I'd love to actually participate in something like this.
The animation give me chills
OK, gonna need the part II of this one ASAP
very similar to the gempukku from L5Rs first book and how I opened my most recent D&D game (the copper championship) now those characters that did well (the PCs) are the magistrates of the city, saving it from dangers both seen and unseen. You sir do good work,
Yeah I need magic duels in my life! That was epic
The voiceover with the background beats makes it sound like you're spitting bars.
Great Vid! Im going to use these!
This is awesome! It would be a fun way to debut in D&d
Respect for making Count Adhemar!
Zee Bashew my god, that’s brilliant! His performance was so fantastic and a huge part of what made that film so special.
This sounds AMAZING.
Definitely my favorite story thus far
That sounded like fun!
That sounds like a lot of fun. But god that must have taken a hell of a lot of planning by the DM.
When I saw the title I thought you were going to be talking about the Joestar secret technique of "RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!!!!" but I'm pleasantly surprised.
This sounds really cool and I need to do this in one of my games.
I so...so wanna learn 5e and play with you😂🤣 you are friggin AWESOME!!!!
Awesome story!
After some _intense_ build-up, my players encountered a lamia that I played like a Nile Queen, intimidating them just through the way I played her (and the fact that she had an army of jackalweres) to camouflage the fact that the four of them could've easily eradicated the entire lot of them in about three turns. It worked, and in exchange for an item they were seeking, I made them put on a fight between the fighter and the monk.
It was the toughest time I ever had being a DM. I was entranced with how into it my players were. I even told them I just wanted to watch them fight. It was great. Even the bard got into it, providing special effects to enhance the experience. The lamia was suitably impressed, I was thoroughly entertained, and my players still bring it up from time to time. It's weird how it can work within the context of the game. It's so _not_ built for PvP, after all.
When it was all over, the lamia lived, the players made off like kings, and instead of keeping the rogue prisoner for her amusement, they promised to come back with the most powerful wizard in the world (an idiot savant named Jimothy Francine Quarnsworth who was a genius at only one spell, an AoE souped-up Heat Metal, currently enslaved by contract to some dwarves and being put to use as the heat source for gigantic mead boilers) which the lamia peeked in on with one of her spells and agreed to take in exchange.
No, they never delivered. In fact, when they finally freeds him, the bard thought it'd be a good idea to offer him some cards from the Deck of Many Things. Did you know Avatars of Death carry no metal and that inept wizards who can only cast Heat Metal die really fast?
That’s sounds awesome
I am definitely running this for my players
This sounds amazing.
D&D PvP can be very fun. One example was actually during a zero session. One of the things we do is that whilst everyone is sorting their stuff out, the characters themselves are in a Tavern. If a player changes his character then it's played as one character leaves; another enters.
Cue a player bragging about 'carrying the team' because he's a Barbarian. It's true that at levels 1-3 Barbs aremore useful than Wizards. I was a Wizard; an aspiring Bladesinger (I say aspiring because I don't get Bladesong until 2nd level). This was roleplayed as the burly Barbarian chugging an ale, bragging about how strong he is and how weak everyone else is.
I... took issue with that. "Please. You swing a big axe and think you're hard, but you'll just be a liability".
Anyway, to cut a long story short this escalated into a 1v1 fight outside the Tavern. Wizard vs Barb. Place your bets now.
Having pumped my Dex high, I got the first initiative and cast the sleep spell. Yes, I get caught in the cloud, but the funny thing about Half-Elves is *magic cannot put them to sleep*. The Barb, meanwhile, was out like a light.
Add to that a high-powered critical with a rapier and boom, match was over. Our Cleric woke the Barb with a Spare the Dying cantrip and I left, telling him to remember his place in the pecking order.
I feel like a tournament arc would be interesting. I should bring it up to my DM.
Thank you for sharing this!
Really cool pvp tournament.
I'd love to see where this game went. Such a good idea.
You really Puffined that one.
God I love this guy