Why Do Humans Like Spicy Food? (ft. Sohla El-Waylly)
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- čas přidán 20. 05. 2024
- Today, Josh and Nicole unravel the mystery of our spicy food obsession with chef, food writer, and culinary personality Sohla El-Waylly.
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0:00 Welcome Sohla!
2:03 The Red Hot Chili Peppers
3:12 Why Do People Like Spicy Food?
5:18 All You Need Is Persian Food
7:01 Hot Sauce On Everything
9:40 Capsaicin & Lab Rats
12:52 Our Favorite Peppers
14:56 Ostrich Threatens Josh
16:06 Eating The Paqui Chip
18:30 The History Of Black Pepper
20:19 How The Scoville Scale Was Made
22:10 Birthday Party At The Farm
23:17 Szechwan Peppercorns & Thinking About Death
27:30 Is Mustard Spicy?
29:01 Opinions Are Like Casseroles
30:57 Does Curry Belong In Ramen?
34:43 Is Hot Sauce Hype Fake?
36:41 Spicy Toxic Masculinity
41:11 Hot Sauce & Bread
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Sohla was a guest i NEVER expected but I'm so excited too see her here; she's one of my favorite chefs/food people!! Can't wait to listen to this episode!
Yoooooo much love from us at B&E Music/Glass Eyes! The shoutout was so unexpected and appreciated. Thank you so much! We love what y'all do!!!
The song is called "Bear Hug"!
I love the phrase 'stunt heat'. I love spicy *flavors* but once it's hot for the sake of hot but sacrificing flavor I'm going to pass.
21:33 years ago, I learned from a Hatch Chile farmer that the relative heat of a chile can fluctuate, depending upon the water resources available to the chile. Like: in a drought year, they will be hotter; in a year of heavy rains, they will be more mild.
Well yeah the plant can build more robust cells with cellulose etc if it has water. Capsaicin is in the seeds, and plants always prioritize seed production before energy harnessing.
You know you stayed up too late when you refresh and MK posted 1 sec ago....
Chilies, corn, potatoes, tomatoes, cassava and sweet potatoes, plus tobacco were all things that didn't exist outside or North and South America before the Columbian exchange. A lot of classic "traditional" foods that use these ingredients are less than 400 to 500 years old.
Many people get upset about this without understanding this.
What were Italians doing before they got tomatoes
I love hearing this podcast because I'm frequently reminded about what a great interviewer Josh is. The way he explained everything about spice and chiles and trade routes and evolution of cuisine and then transitioned to introducing the (probably the next topic they had in the outline for the program) stuff about capsaicin was flawless
I love the way Nicole said, "I didn't realize food was a thing." I know exactly what she means. I didn't know until I went to culinary school and my mind was blown. I just want to keep learning.
Half inch or so cubes of cheddar cheese soaked in hot sauce is a pretty good way to enjoy and taste various hot sauces
I put five types of crushed pepper flakes (Jalapeño, Urfa Biber, Arbol, Ghost & Habanero) along with chunky Jif peanut butter and a good spoonful of raw honey in my oatmeal. I love it so much that just anticipating it the night before I have it makes me happy. My husband of 40+ years just has butter, and brown sugar in his oatmeal but he ❤ totally supports my weirdness.
Love the podcast.
🤯 Ma’am, you’ve created breakfast Pad Thai 😂
I have to try that, it sounds awesome. Thanks for sharing :)
Savory oatmeal is criminally ignored and maligned. I absolutely love some oatmeal with beef soup base, Montreal steak seasoning, and dehydrated onion. Cheap, filling, and tastes great. Gruel is gruel. There is no logical reason that it has to be sweeter than a dessert.
Peanut butter and spices added to carbs is an essential food group for me. I also make my own ice cream with those flavors.
I gotta try that now 👀
Hugely relate to what Nicole said about Pepper. My dad is allergic to garlic so I rarely had it growing up, and now I put it in everything
I grew up spreading mayo on bread and dipping it into my canned soups as a kid which is something my grandma had us do. Wonder if that is from the great depression?
That intro was wicked.
So happy to learn that Josh is a fan of Bloodywood 🤘
I work in pharmacy, one medication we dispense is a capsaicin cream for neuropathy, and osteoarthritis
I love Sohla!❤ and her dry humor 😂
omg all of my favorites in one podcast!!
NICOLE❤ You look amazing 🤩 & glowing lately! Keep up whatever you’re doing that brightens your beautiful aura! ❤❤❤
I love Sohla! Please have her on GMK more
I was so HYPED 10 seconds in! I loved that!
Im Polish American so i didnt grow up eating any spicy foods. The only spicy things that we have are spicy mustard and horseradish. After i became an adult i started eating Mexican food and semi spicy meals. In my 40s i recently started eating and liking Indian food, as long as its not too spicy.
Absolutely guilty of
A: immediately jumping into the song
B: knowing all the lyrics
I'm angry that yall reminded me
I'm not watching anymore of this channel until you two watch the original Jurassic Park and report back
If you don't watch how will you know they've watched it? Lol
@@bignkoda ...that's more of a figure of speech than a literal statement
I know I know was only joking.
Something is absolutely happening with jalapenos, I got some from Aldi and they tasted exactly like green bell peppers. I also haven't encountered a slightly spicy tasting broccoli in years. My favorite thing is my homemade fermented hot sauce
I have never experienced a spicy broccoli, how interesting!
ayo, spicy broccoli what?
@@jake360flipit’s part of the mustard family, so it can have a hot mustard flavor.
@@emiliegoldstein977 I need to look into this! thank you for the reply
Nicole's table has no less than 3 hot sauces on it at any time. My friends mess with me b/c I travel with a minimum of 3 in my truck at any time. Always be prepared for bland food.
I have like 4 different generic dry spices at work for food. Cheap food becomes so much better if you just add a couple of spices
For jalapeños you have to let their soil dry and not water them often because the capsaicin comes from a defense mechanism. Makes me wonder if the jalapeños are getting blander because they’re watering them more for quantity of jalapeños vs quality.
26:32 : A few morning themed energy drinks actually do have pepper in it for that reason.
I am BEGGING you to have Sohla on Last Meals!! Please!!
I have a special hatred for the one chip challenges and such. I used to work in a chip factory and the seasoning gets in the air. You're working on Cheetos and you just have a cheesy taste in the air, you work with comically spicy chips and people go to the hospital because they have chemical burns from the capsaicin in the air
I, too, am siding with St. Louis style pizza "just a saltine cracker!" with beer drinking over a fluffy classic Italian regional pizza or style. I can just tell I am going to enjoy using the cracker pie as a conveyer for the toppings, while drunk, and see myself being so glad I am not weighing myself with heavy, sleep-inducing dough.
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i love the chemistry here!
It makes me sad that we’re not seeing sohla on last meals because the chemistry is amazing. I hope we see her! But the way Josh talked about it sounds like she won’t be appearing soon
Josh! Started watching y'all a few weeks ago and love the 717 representation and toxic masculinity bashing!
Loved the episode--as someone who loves: cultivating, looking at, drying, canning, fermenting, cooking with, and eating the beautiful fruiting bodies of the variety of Capsicum plants. I especially love the spicy peppers. I know "toxic masculinity" can be associated with those that desire the spiciest food to "show off" etc, but my world is very much NOT that. Most that I know are flamboyant and poetic weirdos who happen to like being brought to their knees every so often by a gorgeous weaponized pepper.
most Indian dishes have Persian roots
"You follow my Substack?" at 3:42 was so great.
nicole is so funny oh my god 😭😭😭 this podcast wouldn’t be what it is without her!
Best intro to this podcast so far
32:03 You can get curry cup noodles now! It's Japanese curry flavor, of course, and it's really good!
31:54 Bro, cheap Chicken flavor ramen with Green Curry Paste mixed in is insane, it's so good for cheap noods and paste
Love the Josh and Nicole vibes always
Except that was a Dilophosaurus that killed Nedry, not a velociraptor in the original Jurrasic Park. =P As far as spicy foods, I couldn't eat them when younger. I took a lot of medicine for health issues growing up and it was already causing ulcer issues at 15. Best thing I did was stop taking those meds. BUT, now I can eat spicy foods and love it. I have found stuff like adobo sauce and chipotle to be my favorite for that deep, smoky and spicy flavor.
I love spicy foods. Spice improves flavor and I enjoy the burn.
I love spicy foods but they don’t love me 😭 damn my white ass genetics
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE all things spicy! I've got Number 3 (Chocolate Primotalli) and the Number 2 (The Dragon's Breath) amongst other Super Hot Peppers growing right now in my Green House!
best salad dressing video would be interesting i wanna know the origins of them
I would and have eaten super spicy foods, but only if they also taste good. There is a balance of heat and taste. Like the hot ones sauces, I got the package that Sam’s Club had a while back and I legit love the Apollo last dab sauce and the rest of the sauces. Super spicy and also tastes great.
LOVE Sohla!!! So glad to see her here
I want the Jurassic Park watch party + favorite movie snack episode!
i have an unpopular opinion, spam as a meat product is a square hot dog and can be cooked like it, just not in a big pot. also if deep frying it, bread it first, in flour or corn meal before putting it in oil.
I love that Nicole loves Stadium Arcadium!
this is the best surprise to get at 3AM
I'm allergic to nightshades so eating anything with peppers hurts my insides. Do I stop? No 😂😂
Sohla!!
10:15 Killing and eating an animal is in no way the same as torturing them.
Favorite collab thus far
i've never heard of biryani before but i had a suspicion, yep, we call it breyani here lol, in south africa
Nicole was so proud of that Kevin Gates ref 😆
Loved Sohla as she was very much unappreciated at ba, loved her short stint with Binging with Babish, and now she's here too! Love love love
I also watched Jurassic Park 3 a lot. The amount of times I watched the others combined are not even close to how many times I watched Jurassic 3 lol
I like a little bit of spice but once it becomes all about heat and hotness - all I feel and taste is heat and food then have no flavor but heat and pain.
Having just watched the jurassic movies, it's not velociraptor, it's dilophosaurus that takes out Nedry
Texas Red Chili, Chile Relleno, Chilli Con Carne, there's no wrong way to say chili. But the one with one "L" and two "I"s tends to be a bowl of meat stew, based on the dish created in San Antonio, Texas, the one with an "E" at the end tends to be dried or otherwise singular varieties of pepper, and as far as I know, 2 "L"s just means not from the southern border of the US.
The cold cheetos ep. was rhe first one i watched, been a fan ever since.
I think Josh would like a chile relleno made with Oaxacan chile de agua, which is my favorite.
YES!!!!!! PEPPERMINT!!!!! it's a pepper MINT! I used to say peppermint toothpaste was spicy when I was a kid and I feel so validated
In a food sense stunt heat makes no sense I agree but from an experience perspective I can see people doing it for just the experience and think that is fine. We all do so much stuff just because we want shared experiences.
Its just annoying online the stunt aspect is more interesting then spicy for taste sake that is dominatea the conversation at times
Best intro
good morning yalll
In Korean, tea is "cha" as well, so I'm on board with the gang.
All I have to say is I did not expect a Kevin gates reference on this podcast and it just mad me a fan.
I’m addicted to habanero sauce lol
The dinosaur that spit venom in Jurassic Park was actually a dilophosaurus, but there's no real evidence to support that they were actually venomous
Omg Sohla my beloved
Loved the episode. WHY HAVE YOU BOTH NOT WATCHED JURASSIC PARK!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Sohlaaaa!!!!!! 💖
I got two phones hahah 17:27 gates on the pod
Ayooo! I've been on a rhcp kick the latest week.
Finally someone brings the fatalii up best pepper in the world
Hot Sauce and Bread: I do that when my sinuses are stuffed up and I want a quick relief from it
look, you're not going to believe me, but, hot sauce, mayo & _cinnamon_ is the ritz, i once put on 20 pounds eating that every day lol
galaxy brain move to release this the week that dune 2 is out in theatres
What can I do to make myself enjoy spicy food? I want it all, but if I touch a jalapeño my eyes water. Can I train myself?
You guys should go to Japan and do a few episodes with OniGiri, she's been doing a lot more IRL cooking streams (no vtuber model) and that would just slap you with a whole new audience, also curry ramen
26:32 Taco Bell “Fire” sauce gets its heat from black pepper. No one ever talks about it.
No, it doesn't. It doesn't contain black pepper. It's a combo of jalapenos and chili pepper.
Sohla for last meals!!!!
I am continually reminded of how not human I am.
when my food isn't spicy I feel like something's missing
“Diarrhea Homies“ shorts for sending to my ummm homies. Also, awful merch idea? (That I’d totally buy) 😅
It's pronounced "NU-tria" (accent on the first syllable). And, yes, Cajuns eat it. I've had it in gumbo :)
Sohla! I am actually happy after seeing her after all that Babish thing.
Really glad to see that she is having her cookbook on (or smth)
ORDER THAT BOOK NOW
What happened with the babish thing? Or you're jsut saying you're glad to see her after her short series with them.
@@DDNEV the short series
Thank god I was worried something happened I couldn’t handle that.
@@lukej7834 there was a bit of an issue after she badmouthed both Brad and Babish. Called them "dumb white guys." Like she's badmouthed everyone else she's ever worked with.
They should open every podcast with Red Hot Chili Peppers 😂
Had Imo's in St Louis, not good. Th cheese was so odd, just not for me.
what a great ep, the balm-not-bomb clarification and Sohlas joke about it made me laugh out loud alone in my car
Ok so kare kare may have been rooted as an imitation of curry but it has now transformed and evolved more than that, made to imitate and does not equate. I dont think its fair to call it filipino curry, anyway love the show and now hungry for kare kare
I adore Sohla!! So glad you had her on your show! 💖
Provel is the ultimate cheese
"Believe in peppers."
Nicole looks too good for a podcast
What they call pizza in Missouri is a hate crime.
They should do hot ones while watching Jurassic Park LOL.
Awesome job Josh with the podcast drop a like see you on Tuesday