Avid CnC Upgrade to 8.7hp Spindle
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- In this video we change out our no name spindle to a new spindle available from Avid Cnc......8.7hp!!!!
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Hi Jay 😘
Can you say "Collaboration Project?"
I'm glad you're gaining efficiency and improved the system performance. Keep up the good work Paul and crew!
We will!
I love the variety of videos you give us! its never boring around here!
Glad you enjoy it! We try to mix it up and show you everything we do around here.
Fun never stops
Keep the videos coming guys! It’s always a pleasure viewing them.
Thanks!
the work shop is looking good, very clean
Thanks 👍
Robots best kept bolted to the floor.
Letting them walk around cutting things is risky when they get uppity.
Your video was awesome. I own a Avid Pro 4848. While watching your video I had an idea. If you had a metal detector and passed it over the slab prior to machining it might detect any embedded metal in the slab allowing the opportunity to remove it and prevent damage to expensive cutters. Just a thought. Thanks again.
Well done.
Very entertaining.
Thanks for watching
Nice Editing with the music 4:05 to 4:13.
Great up grade Paul.
I think we got lucky there (-:
Nice video! You should wire your dust collection into your main controller box (relay 1 or relay 2). That way you can turn it on and off in Mach instead of the wall switch. Maybe do a short video on it as well.
Thanks for the tips!
Thanks for making this video. Very impressive and informative.
Whoa that thing is awesome!
Thanks we love it! Workhorse
Nice upgrade
Sure is
My buddy assembled the vfd very cool man.
What a beast
I like the video, keep up the good work. Quick improvement tip - You should probably invest in a collet nut torque wrench, that brute force method at 11-minute mark is really not the way to go. Too much torque, even over short timespans, reduces the holding forces and creates more runout and faster worn out collets. Too little force you probably already know what happens.
Thanks, i'm on it!
Nice job , Well Done .... Im building CNC plasma - mill combo 2.4mx1.5m , i cant wait to get done
Awesome! That sounds super cool
Very cool!
Thanks for watching
MORE POWER !!!!!
In the Tim The Toolman Taylor voice right?
@@CanadianWoodworks ARRRR ARRRR ARR lol you were feelin it
What a beast!
It's is, so happy!!!
Maybe someday I will be able to afford that spindle for my avid pro 48 by 96
Hmm I'd like to see milling with dust collection on
We will have a dust boot video coming soon
Sweet!
Thanks!
Slick CNC and software. Though I'd prefer to have a Xbox remote for the controls vs. using mouse/keyboard
Yeah I've seen that before. Might need to dig around for my old console lol
That is sweet
thanks for watching
awesome man!! I see you are running mach3
its super easy to hook up a wireless game controller
and just use a key grabber program mach 3 even has one.
I have super nes on all my machines!:)
Cool, thanks. I need to look into it more
I just wanted to tell you your video was awesome. I also have an Avid 4848 Pro. While watching your video I had a thought about protecting your cutters. I was wondering if a metal detector that you could pass over the slabs before the program is started could efficiently detect any metal that might be embedded in the slab, allowing its removal prior to surfacing or milling. Just a thought..
Thanks Again.
What was holding the wood down? I understand the shims but not the holding down part?
The weight of the wood itself. The clamps stop the possibility of side shifting
Dust extraction....eh? Love your videos there young man
Glad you like them! Thanks William
How did the feeds and speeds compare in actual numbers? Great content. Thanks Pete
Some of those tools appear to be crossing over into metalworking stuff.
We got a surprise coming soon, and it's to do with metal ;-P
Too bad about the 3 phase requirement. My new CNC is coming with 5.5kw as i don't have 3 phase available in my area. (I'm in the country)
Wonder if they make a VFD that could run bigger while operating on 220 single phase.
We use a phase perfect to create our 3 Phase for our bigger machines, they are really nice units but a decent investment.
With a cutter that dia I would think it's a must to tram it.
So, what's the verdict, is the more powerful spindle giving you a better quality cut?
feed rate seems a bit high if you're going for optimum finish? .. mind you, I'm used to working with aluminium and steel
That slab is beautiful. Any for sale? Do you have a 30 amp running that spindle. I have the same one coming and I have 3 phase too.
I see you didn't buy the avid cnc frame legs and instead made your own base frame. Have you done a video about that base frame.
At the time they did not have a base available yet, and we put very heavy slabs on the cnc so we built this base, sorry no video on it but I could put together something. Thanks for watching.
Did you tram the spindle? If so what’s your procedure for doing that? Thanks for the video that new spindle is a beast!
Where did you find that hi-tech blast gate!
I had to look far and wide
Hey! New to your content, I don't know if you've talked about this in the past, but was it complicated/expensive to have the cnc shipped (the initial machine, not the new spindle) across the border?
Cheers
I would reach out to AVIDCNC direct. They would be able to help you with shipping cost, duties etc.
What’s the size of CNC machine you have? Did u have any issue with cooling since this router is not water cooled?
Are you using 3 phase power? The Avid site states that running it off 1 phase power reduces peak power to 6.4hp. Does it ship with an undersized vfd? I run a 7.5hp spindle from a 50a 240v single phase circuit with a 10hp vfd designed for 1ph power in - 3ph out and I don't have to reduce peak power.
Yes I have 3 phase power, but I also agree with you, I like you run many machines with single phase in and 3 phase out, I've always practiced double size the vfd compared to the motor, from what I understand this does not reduce HP. So I don't know why this vfd would limit the HP with single phase but I larger vfd then needed is always better when using for single to three phase. Maybe this VFD has some sort of auto programming to limit HP if single phase.
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Cheers!
What do you use to sand the slabs once flattened? Wood mizer sells a slabbing machine that has a 7" sanding disk head. Would you think a sanding disk would work on the CNC. You may do a volume where you need to get the slab off? Thanks. Great machine and vid BTW
You right, i've used the sanding head for the cnc but we need to keep it surfacing slabs, so we have a 53'' wide belt sander, that is for sure way faster and better at sanding. Thanks for watching!
Hi there! I am in the market for a CNC. I've been looking at Avid because the price is amazing but also have been looking at Shop Saber. It looks like you have a decent size company going. Have you ever been disappointed with purchasing the Avid Cnc? The only reason I ask is because I want to know if its justifiable to spend the extra money with Shop Saber. Thanks!
We LOVE our AVIDCNC here. We put it through its paces with flattening slabs, but it's also great for the finer detail jobs too.
We've had ZERO issues with it.
Hope this helps
@@CanadianWoodworks Appreciate the response! My main thought is if I buy Avid, will I outgrow it in the near future? I guess thats for me to find out. Thanks again! :)
What size CNC is this? I’m looking at getting a 4x8 avid and was wondering if it’s worth it
@2.08 thats what she said 🤣🤣🤣
LOL
Recent subscriber and love seeing the bigger CNCs and slabs getting surfaced. You mentioned controlling the CNC with the keyboard. Is that for flattening the full slab or just for some of the high points that need a separate pass? If it's for the full slab is it just quicker to jog it through with the keyboard than writing a flattening program for each size?
We use the keyboard for just the initial passes where we would be cutting more air then wood, once the pass will take at least 50% wood than we run the program. Over the years we have written all the programs we need, we just need to use a program that is wider than we need and just. a touch longer.
@@CanadianWoodworks Makes perfect sense and thanks for sharing.
Big leap up!
Can you do larger step-overs with the bigger bit/more hp?
Exactly, we can step over 2'' instead of 1'' now, we do move the machine slower but the step over more then makes up for that, better finish and faster!
When it comes to surfacing how much more accurate is it to do it on the CNC as opposed to the thicknesser planer?
And with a bed that size I am really surprised you are bot running dual gantries and heads.
The cnc is 100% flat, the planer not always. Really depends on the material.
I just recently purchased the same spindle for my Avid and plan to use it to flatten slabs. Is your spindle hooked up to 3 phase or did you use the converter that comes with it and run it on single phase power?
Hi, Great choice this spindle is really nice. No matter what you need to use the Vfd that comes with the spindle, yes it will convert single phase to 3 phase, but they say you'll loose about 2hp if you don't feed it 3 phase. I am feeding it 3phase from a Phase Perfect single to three phase converter
What does that set up cost from avid approx. Been trying to get a quote from them but so many add-ons. Crazy
Thanks
It's hard for me to say now, it was so long ago. But from my memory my machine with out the spindle was $12k usd , I would think it's more now because of inflation but damn it's a great value!! Thanks for watching
I’ve had the same issues
@@CanadianWoodworks what size is it ?
WISHED YOU WOULD HAVE SHOWN THE STEP OVER IN REAL TIME.
Totally understand, we will add more real time footage in future vids.
How wide is your machine as in work area ?
This cnc is 16' long x 72'' wide
Did they give it to you?
Yes the head was provided to me at no cost, i've been fortunate to have some amazing support from some great companies.
I bet those heads cost a pretty penny.
I believe it's $4k usd, it's not "cheap" but in the world of CNC spindles, that is cheap.
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