Punch Out!! for the Switch! - Let's Make a Sequel
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- When I say "What Nintendo Game needs a Sequel the Most?" what game comes to mind?... No not F-Zero... or Starfox... or Earthbound... okay if I say "What boxing game from Nintendo needs a Sequel the Most?" what game comes to mind?
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0:00 - Intro
3:13 - Gameplay Changes
6:20 - New Boxers
12:58 - Modes
16:35 - Unlockables
22:24 - Conclusion - Hry
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Glass Joe's wife being the final boss instantly sold me on the game.
I can already see the mountains of Twitter artists recreating the “he asked for no pickles” meme with those two and I’m all for it lol
Haha because a woman abusing their husband is funny amirite?
To be fair, he did beat Mike Tyson once, so the idea isn't that ridiculous
@@someguylostontheinternet4504 That was actually Nick Bruiser, but in a freak accident
@@AmoralTom Nobody claimed she would be abusive?
Ive had an idea for this new boxer for a while now.
I like to imagine him as a swedish boxer that is sorta like glass joe but if he was a little more compitent. And his WHOLE shtick is that he is OVERLY apologetic. Like, he'll knock you down and just be all like-
"Did it hurt?"
"Do you need help?"
"I didn't punch you to hard did I?"
Like he's genuinely concerned about you. But after a while it will start to feel more like he's taunting you. Even though he Truly means you no ill will.
You know despite the fact he's fighting you.
And if your asking, "If he's so apologetic than why is he boxing?"
And my answer is...I.. don't.. exactly know.. But I like to imagine it's because he wanted to be taken more seriously and gain more respect. But that parts still a work in progress
Maybe it’s because he’s a father who’s boxing to make money for his family. And whenever someone gets hurt his parental instincts kick in.
@@GretchenGoebel THATS SUCH A GOOD IDEA!!
So basically similar to Justin Turbeau from Election Year Knockout 2020?
I’ve always thought that a “chess boxer” would be funny. The mid-match cutscene’s would be them playing chess, with the special KO being them getting checkmated
Maybe each punch is a reference to a chess move. Like, a knight punch starts as a jab but suddenly veers into a hook.
And everytime he knocks you down he'll yell "check!"
@@joshzuker8308OMG that would be so cool!
The idea of glass joe having a muscle mommy wife is so good and I’d probably die laughing if it became canon
I love the idea of Glass Joe being married to the world champ woman's boxer. It'd at least explain how a man that's lost 99 times in a row still gets to be in the league... they're afraid he'd cry to his wife if they ever actually fired him.
also if he can make that behemoth happy imagine if he used that energy to actually fight
Katy's biggest threat being Glass Joe's wife is wonderful. Maybe to keep the French puns, how about naming her Jeanne D'Arcane, because she has mystic tactics and physical brute strength while still referencing Joan of Arc.
I was also thinking she’d have a sort of Notre Dame motif as a play on the term, “Ring your bell.”
@@thegrandxbunny2073 "The Notre-torious Dame, Jeanne D'Arcane!"
@@thegrandxbunny2073And in Title Defense Mode, instead of her wearing a boxing helmet, she wears a French knight's helmet.
@@Silverwind87 Lmao yes!
Someone suggested her name be Brass Jill.
I love the idea people have thrown around and doing a prequel showing how Doc Louis became Heavyweight Champ (with maybe a 60s or 70s boxing look) and how he invented, then perfected the star punch.
Reedy little Glass Joe being married to an absolutely beefy brick wall of a woman is the cutest goddamn idea ever and I'm sold entirely just based on that. Carry your husband gently like a baguette
The Iron Jane idea is hilarious and definitely a joke Nintendo would use with Glass Joe.
She blows a kiss to him, and he immediately falls over and the k.o. sound effect plays
Girlboss X Malewife but in French
@@pinkiemeowstic89 Joe represents France during the 1st and 2nd world wars, while Jane represents France during the French Revolution
The story could be that Glass Joe feels like truly giving up but then while at the gym meets Iron Jane, the two start dating and Jane takes up boxing and trains to become an absolute master at it. Then the two marry and Glass Joe decides to become the house husband while Jane is the bloody champ and also makes Joe's legacy pretty big (he himself was bad but he brought Jane into boxing which led to her becoming so great at it).
Essentially a total role reversal couple. And they love each other. And that's good.
Would also play well into the series' humor
After Wii redeemed Aran Ryan from a completely boring boxer in Super Punch Out, a sequel would absolutely need to redeem Pizza Pasta, the guy who is infamous for being arguably THE most shallow boxer in the series.
Call him Pete Zapasta and make his character a member of the mob. It works for his Italian nature and the mob is infamous for being involved in boxing. Say that in his fight he starts out really easy because the narrative is he's throwing the fight, but after you knock him down a couple times he gets angry and starts to box for real. Then in Title Defense, he's out for revenge so the phase where he's in a fixed fight is skipped in addition to making him have a ton of new tricks. If Aran Ryan isn't in the game then he can take over as a dirty boxer - but c'mon, Aran Ryan HAS to be in the game. Zapasta would certainly be likely to have some illegal moves in his arsenal, but absolutely not to the extent as Aran Ryan.
OR aran ryan could have come clean or something, like he almost got killed by someone who hated him for cheating, and now Aran Ryan trys not to cheat anymore, but he still has the reflex to cheat, like a way you could get a star punch against him is he tries to do an illegal elbow punch, but stops himself mid-punch, and you can get a free star punch. BUT, if you knock him down with a three star punch while he does that, he gets REALLY MAD, and starts cheating again. like he went through all that effort to stop and just got disrespected.
Peta Zapasta is an amazing name
In Title Defense, some of Zapasta’s mob cronies jump the ring and try to ambush you with swings of their own, but they can be knocked out with a single punch. Also it would be funny if the only reason they’re even allowed there is because they also act as Zapasta’s cornermen, who care to his injuries during the post-Round banter
I was thinking during the final boss (Likely Sandman), the first two rounds play out like normal when suddenly, in round 3, Aran Ryan just jumps on top of Sandman and the two fight you in a style akin to two kids in a trench coat, with Sandman staying relatively normal, and Ryan swinging his trademark glove flail.
I'm loving these ideas.
Imagine if the game did have you play as different boxers, and there was a super secret true final boss, and it was Little Mac coming out of retirement one last time to face the new champion. It could give off similar vibes to the Red fight on Mt. Silver in Gen 2.
I like to think that, while going into the ring, Doc is with your character, congratulating them, then, the crowd gasps, and the light shines on one person. The crowd goes wild as Mac walks into the ring, saying hi to Doc and looking over to the new character(s) and challenging them.
I love this genre in games where you fight a previous protagonist or a future villain like in Kingdom Hearts 1, you can fight Unkown in Hollow Bastion who later in Kingdom Hearts 2 is actually Xemnas, then later in KH2 you can fight Lingering Will who in Birth By Sleep is actually Terra whom you can play as in that game. I wish more games did that.
@@brandonwilliams6119 or where you fight demi fiend in digital devil saga
@@ribry8512 I still love how for that fight they play Nocturne's standard battle theme. It may be one hell of a trial for you, but for Demi-Fiend, you're just XP
@@Triforce_of_Doom my favorite part about that fight tbh
What if beating Captain Falcon gave you the option to replace the Star Punch effects with a Falcon Punch?
That. Sounds. Awesome.
Even better, the 1 & 2 star punches are just different tiers of the Raptor Boost (his side-B uppercut for those who don't know the Smash move names super well) but the 3 star is the Falcon Punch to just REALLY drive the impact home.
EXACTLY!!! I was wondering if anyone was gonna mention that.
Cool
Ye
I wanna see them do this so Bumbles McFumbles could count all the infractions that’s done
Yes
Samus: SHE HAS A FREAKING GUN!!
@@sev1120 AND SHES WEARING A FULL SET OF ARMOR.
THAT WAS DEFINITELY NOT CHECKED BY THE REF
@@soulcyclone360 So does Captain Falcon. Not only does he wear his usual helmet and uniform, but his regular gloves are beneath his boxing gloves, meaning that they likely weren't wrapped properly, or even at all. And Ganon is just straight up using magic and trying to stab the player.
@@thegrandxbunny2073 that sword was also not checked by the ref and is probably not up to regulations. And since he's just floating everywhere, he probably botched his weight check and could probably be weighing tons and nobody would know.
I think the Nintendo Circuit needs a fight with Spring Man, or someone else from ARMS. Seems like a connection that needs to be made.
If they include a female boxer and the Nintendo Circuit, can you imagine her version of it including a fight with Min-Min while Mac (or Mac's successor) fights Spring Man?
Considering the original intention to have Peach being the secret rival in Wii, maybe she should be a part of the Nintendo Circuit.
Idk why he didn't include one, he even uses ARMS footage in the video lol. Like, Samus and Ganondorf over that? Odd choice
@@pinkiemeowstic89 yeah would be nice
@@TheDanielCityHeroes Little Mac would probably fight Ninjara, not Spring Man. The only reason Min Min gets top billing over Ribbon Girl is popularity, Ninjara would be in the same boat.
I feel like if you got Captain Falcon in the game, the falcon punch would be super telegraphed and easy to dodge but if you get hit by it you just instantly lose. I imagine it'd be accompanied by an animation of Mac being sent flying into one of the arena walls
A cool idea would be a prequel to the Wii punch out where we follow Doc Louis when he was competing, what would be cool also is if we could see all the older boxers and see them when they were young
and the entire game has a Black Dynamite-esque 60-70’s sports movie vibe
Hell, you could even squish that down as the tutorial mode, showing you play Doc Louis in the final match against, say, Super Macho Man that made him hang up his gloves.
Man I still remember watching Mac's Smash reveal & my reaction basically boiled down to "FINALLY". Like you said at the beginning, F-Zro may be the game with the biggest "please bring it back" crowd (which I am absolutely a part of because god I love my high octane racers), but Punch-Out in my mind is right behind it.
Assuming Hitmonchan could actually be in, it would be really cool to have him utilize elemental punches. You would have to be extra careful of what punch is gonna blocked or dodged. Fire could cause burn damage for a few seconds, ice would slow your movement, and paralysis could instantly deplete your stamina.
Designing For had a contest after the "Designing For Intimidation" 4-parter, and the design for Tyrogue by Tarvould's Quest won the Guest Fighter half because Hitmonchan carried the design for the hosts. Please give that a watch, Designing For is great, also the streams are hilarious!
And if not
Well maybe a max costume could work since those two share some DNA
the "HD Rumble" in the Joy-Cons could be used as another way to "feel" the attacks coming and respond. A big hit coming from the left? you'll get those vibrations happening as just another sign "hey, you gotta dodge this NOW"
In theory it could turn out that you can play the game without even seeing or hearing the screen lol.
Oh man imagine the rumble on the build-up & impact of a 3 Star Punch.
I want a Samus fight in Punch-Out to have a boxing glove on the arm cannon, even if she never actually uses it.
That is a funny image
It’s just fastened on with duct tape,
if she is tko'd her armor is knocked off completely
The female boxer being called Katie is good because she could be called Little Kat for short lol
Big Kat
I agree with that being the reason for the lead female protagonist being named Katie,
Kat: You want a piece of me?
Peach: BREAK ME OFF A PIECE OF THAT KIT KAT BAR! (Snaps her spine)
Or Lil Wendy
The "Nintendo Circuit" is an idea I've had for a hot minute, glad to see someone else pushing for more Nintendo reps!
I've thought of ideas for a new Punch-Out before, and most of the ideas I had are present here (new protagonists, female boxers, a VS Mode where you can actually select all the different opponents in the game), but there are two that aren't here that I really like. One is to have Little Mac act as the final boss. He became the champion in the last game, so he's still the champion in this game. The other is for Matt from Wii Sports to be a guest opponent. It's kind of a joke idea, given Matt's meme status, but he is the highest ranked boxer in Wii Sports, which is one of Nintendo's most popular games, so he'd be kind of perfect for the "Nintendo League" idea you presented here (which I love, by the way).
What about having the super punch out little Mac ( renamed to Peter punch or something similar) being a secret playable character and a secret boss
Matt could actually be a brutal challenge if he plays like they all did in Wii Sports, you get almost no windup to dodge/block
For that Nintendo circuit, Masked king Dedede would be a great choice as his mask could function like King Hippo’s man hole cover.
I’ve always thought the idea of an “Intergalactic Punch-Out” would be amazing.
Imagine fighting as a normal guy in an interstellar boxing league against aliens with unconventional bodies, like an alien with multiple arms or an amorphous blob that can dodge your punches by shapeshifting.
That sounds incredible!
Like Power Punch II only good.
Actually thought of something like
Earth: The “Glass Joe”
Mercury: Slime Alien
Venus: Insect Alien
Mars: Robot Alien
Jupiter: Avian Alien
Saturn: Humanoid Alien with rings
Uranus: Bovine Alien
Neptune: Fish Alien
Pluto: Feline Alien
Final Boss: The “Mr Sandman”
@@coltonturbville3851 Wait, is this just Mega Man V?
@@insertobligatoryreferenceh489 what ya mean??
Ooh ooh! What if the "choose who you want to play as" part is like filling out a wvba application form or something. Like the first one is gender, then fighting style, and maybe, just maybe some cosmetic decisions, then the boxer you chose fills out their name automatically and the camera switches to their face. That'd bring some style points immediately.
I feel like for a "Nintendo Circuit" one of the opponents should be a character from ARMS, how would that work? Idk, but I feel like it would be fitting for Nintendo's other boxing-centric game to get a rep in this new Punch-Out.
Maybe like Aran Ryan figth with his, glove... thing
If Nintendo doesn’t do a Nintendo circuits maybe it can be the special circuits from super punch out
Some ideas!
* The female boxer could be named Wendy, so we have Mac and Wendy, you know -> 🍔
* I hope to keep the international representation on the line of well intentioned cartoony stereotypes. Like a Tango dancer for Argentina, a Kpop starlet for Korea and so on.
*The top female boxer should be "the Tooth fairy"
The Nintendo league for female fighters could be: Princess Daisy, Dark Samus (If regular Samus competes against Mac) , Twintale (to not repeat Min Min as the ARMS cameo) and Tiki from Fire emblem (she could transform into a Dragon for a special move and give the ring a medieval look if you defeat her)
Anyways, amazing video! Can't wait for what might come in the future!
Acquire BOrgar
"Ya probably got CHEESEBURGERS in those gloves, have ya Wendy?"
I would take Byleth over Tiki as a Fire Emblem Rep, because they have Brawling as a proficiency.
@@goodhelmetjunior3399 that could work. Same Corrine with her dragon limbs, but I didn't want to repeat Smash characters that much :P
And then it’s revealed that the K-Pop starlet is actually in a popular duo act…
with Disco Kid lol
Here's an idea I had while watching your video: Make the game set in a future where you control an up-and-coming boxer (who you can customize the name, appearance and fighting style) and whose trainer is an older version of Little Mac called Old Mac.
Another Idea: Make some of the boxers related to the ones from the past (like Glass Joe has a son who is incredibly huge and strong, that's seriously funny).
Von Kaiser Apprentice who while does like act soldier. Have gimmick of acting like opera singer.
Disco Kid the second who is nephew of Disco kid the first. That have same passion for disco as his uncle. Or name him after different music stuff thats gone.
Prince Hippo. Hippo son, who instead being tanker is outboxer.
Honda sons who acts like delinquent.
Bear trap. The apprentice who’s is now for attacking so fast he traps you.
Great Tiger comebacks. His mastery of mystic arts lets him survive to this day.
Don Flamenco the ii. Instead of matador, he world renowned chef. His gimmick is food buffs.
Aran Ryan son who unlike his father doesn’t. Cheat like really. He total opposite of his father.
Soda Popinski, student. Who instead of using his muscel, prefer using his brain. This guy is an college graduate who introduced math into box.
Bald Bull’s son who angry just like his father.
Super Macho Mans, illegitimate son who recently caused controversy by existing.
Mr.Sandman Junior.
@@shadowclaw7210 gabby jay would be the tutorial fight or something
he would still be trying to win lmao
@@shadowclaw7210 maybe have Bald Bull's successor start off as a raging bruiser, but as the fight goes on he gets more dangerous not because he gets angrier, but because he gets calmer.
@@sev1120 so in final stage he finds his inner peace.
@@shadowclaw7210 yup
Concept: I think in terms of the crossover picks, one that springs to mind for me as a logical pick could be Starman - from Pro Wrestling for the NES. He's obscure enough to be a logical addition to a normal lineup - but could also be really unique with his wrestling-themed abilities, using stuff like his Somersault Kick or Flying Cross Chop! He'd be a great callback, and a really unusual face too!
Dream man from the New Version of nes punch out as Mike aint in it anymore
Ok I have interesting concepts for the bonus boss. What if the bonus fight was against Little Mac himself who decided to come out of retirement for one last good fight if the protagonist isn't him.
Alternatively if it is Mac as the protagonist, the secret fight is against the Super Punch Out protagonist who was referred to as Little Mac after going his separate ways with Doc in the US material but has since been confirmed to be a separate character.
I honestly really like the latter and can imagine a really interesting and fun fight against what is essentially a mirror match against a boxer who fights just like you and has access to his Knockout Punches in place of the Star Punch Mac has.
Seriously I'm a sucker for battles against characters similar to the main hero I'm sure this would be fun as well to fight. Plus in terms of the hypothetical vs mode he'd play similarly to how he did in Super Punch Out, hell you could make him an alternate playable character with no real changes to the story other than offering some replayability that you get for beating him or his exhibition mode, but instead of him you fight Mac in his place who gets his own boss fight like the original idea suggested.
YESS ANOTHER EPSIODE OF LET'S MAKE A SEQUEL!
While I, like many, love "Build The Roster", I do love seeing more episodes of this series as well
Same
To go with the 3 playable characters, I think each one could have a bit of their own story, including their own coach. Swarmer could have Little Mac, all grown up and wise beyond his years, Outboxer could have Doc Louis who decided to take on a new apprentice after Mac retired, and the Slugger could have someone else familiar; Sandman. After Mac repeatedly humiliated him in the ring and as the years went on, he retired, but never stored harboring a grudge for Mac & Doc.
Would also love it if the world champ became one of the other characters after winning Title Defense or Contender mode.
I love all these ideas! Especially the "Glass Joe's wife is the champion" idea. It's the ULTIMATE "he asked for no pickles!" relationship.
My personal idea for a Punch-Out sequel also included a female league. I like to think it'd be set an unspecified amount of time in the future. You'd play as Luna, the teenage daughter of Mr. Sandman, who is being trained by Little Mac. Luna has a signature move called the Moon Punch, which is like the Star Punch, but slightly different. With Mac's help, she'll rise up through the female league and follow in her dad's footsteps.
Maybe also have the
Ravaging Red Moon, if you keep your maxed moons long enough, you get to basically get blade moon, and functionally punch MUCH faster, as everything else is in slo mo, the hits are more violent and brutal, but you take more damage, equal to double how much the slow down is (like, a 1.5x slowdown means you get hit three times as hard)
punch out has actually had a versus mode before as a secret in super punch out. its super cool and was only discovered recently.
I always assumed it was meant more as a debug tool to instantly test different enemy attacks and animations
@@MrSkerpentine yeah it very well might have been but it’s pretty cool either way
This man is going to be thinking of better games than what we get or don’t get
Lots of interesting ideas here, I think my favorite is having the two different leagues with Mac and a female boxer, that would essentially make the game two Punch-Out games in one package.
Also, if we do get more guest characters in the next Punch-Out… we got to get Balrog from Street Fighter in there, he’d be perfect as a secret boss.
Almost any boxer from a fighting game has a shot, so long as it's within Nintendo's reach of legality. I'd love to see TJ Combo from Killer Instinct have a go at Little Mac but Microsoft have got a pretty hard grip on that franchise.
Balrog could be really cool, especially if they gave him a unique street fighter style super metre that he could use for EX moves or full blown supers.
Maybe a massive crossover circuit between Punch Out and other video games. Call it like the Ultima Circuit or something like that.
Here's my idea for boxers from that (not in order):
For Mac:
TJ Combo (from Killer Instinct)
Akihiko (from Persona)
Johnny Cage
Balrog (From Street Fighter)
For the female boxer, let's start with the Nintendo circuit (not in order)
Princess Daisy
Wii Fit Trainer
Bea (Pokémon, Galarian fighting type gym leader)
Twintelle (arms)
And for her ultima circuit (again, not in order):
Vanessa (king of fighters)
Akira or Tiffany (Rival Schools)
Cassie Cage
Cammy (Street Fighter)
@@sev1120 TJ Combo is a Killer Instinct character, not Tekken
@@soulcyclone360 my bad
@@sev1120 all good
Love all of this. My own personal hope for a new punch out is that Matt from Wii sports is one of the secret fights
glass joe being married to one of the strongest boxers sounds like both a great contrast and fucking funny as hell.
How did you manage to talk about possible guest characters for a Punch-Out game on the Switch and somehow *not even mention* ARMS
Well...who the fuck remembers ARMS?!
@@GooberInternetI fuck do
@@GooberInternet he used it in the vieeo
Some of the fighters could be the students of the old fighters kind of like when fighting games want to have a time jump so it would still seem similar but with a new flare
I’d like to see the game take place years before Little Mac, and show Doc Louis in his prime.
thatd be good for dlc
Thanks for reminding me I’ve been wanting Punch-Out on Switch again. I miss this series.
One idea I find really funny for the Nintendo circuit is for if you’re able to beat every character in survival mode or something like that, then the final opponent is Master Hand. How would that work? No clue, but the idea of having just a giant floating hand in a boxing game is hilarious to me
I want a sequel for the classic wario land games. They were so unique and fun. i am so sad that wario only gets wario ware these days.
Pretty obscure idea but I’d like to see a Ring fit adventure sequel
F1rst........
I literally had a concept about this.
The Switch would work perfectly for a
Punch Out game.
Same man what was your ifea
The three boxers could be boxers we've seen before.
Swarmer - Little Mac from Super Punch-Out on the SNES
Slugger - Giga Mac, from Punch-Out on the Wii
Out-boxer - The boxer from the _original_ Punch-Out from 1983. He doesn't have an actual name, he's just called "Challenger"
Since SNES Little Mac and Arcade Little Mac look _very_ different from the "main" Little Mac, it's entirely possible that these are all different boxers. Maybe the Little Mac from Punch-Out Wii sprained an ankle or something, so he started working out. He started focusing on his arm strength rather than his leg strength, eventually becoming the roided out slugger known as Giga Mac. Then the _previous_ Little Mac, from Super Punch-Out, returned to take his place. Add in the Challenger from Punch-Out 1983, and you have three former champs all competing for the same belt. Oh, and depending on which Little Mac you pick, the other two Little Macs become your opponents in the semifinals and finals! Maybe differentiate them by calling the swarmer Super Mac and the out-boxer Old Mac, and you're good to go!
My idea for a new puch out would take inspiration from persona and Hajime no Ippo. Basically you can explore your main boxers hometown and train or do activities that boost your stats. Each part of the circuit will lead to you interacting with your upcoming oponent and based on whether you befriend or antagonize your oponent the more difficult or easy the fight will be. For instance if you befriend glass Joe he becomes more motivated then ever to put in effort and becomes a little bit more challenging.
This way we can give some small character development for some of these boxers and give them just a little bit more depth. The mode doesn't have to be super big and grandiose but it could make the world of punch out a bit more immersive
If they do make another punch out game, they better bring back the legend known as Super Macho Man. I will die on this hill.
A couple things:
1. I _adore_ the multiple boxers idea, but I think we can take it a couple steps further. Picture this: instead of choosing either a boy or a girl, you get both as playable characters, each with their own fights. Fully customizable, styles too if those make it in, lots of outfits and many more to unlock. Exhibition matches with challenges and a survival mode after beating the game. The story goes like this: The VBA announced a new league called the WVBA and a duo decide they both want to be champions, so they turn to the best boxer in history to train them: -Little- Mac. The male character rises through the VBA, fighting foes old and new while the female character faces the new WVBA and takes on an entirely new roster. There could be some relation to the old cast. I'm picturing characters from the arcade game Arm Wrestling making an appearance. Also 4 circuits for each. After they both become champions and defend their titles, they make their last stand. When they hang up their gloves, Mac expresses how proud he is of the champs. He directs them to an obscure corner of the gym. He removes the cover of a mysterious machine. It looks like an arcade machine. Interacting with it reveals that it's actually a remake of the Wii game, complete with Doc Louis' Punch-Out! Doc Louis also makes appearances throughout the game, but I'm not sure when. I'm also picturing a fight against Mac.
2. A new code was recently found for Super Punch-Out which, gets this, lets player 2 control any of the opponents. They are not balanced *at all,* so I'm picturing that for the multiplayer mode, the boxers show up at Mac's gym after getting beaten in the story mode. They fight exactly like they do regularly with their own movesets and unique moves exclusive to multiplayer. They can even wear the costumes you unlock from completing challenges. Also anyone can fight anyone.
3. After hearing their mentor relive their glory days _again,_ they get a mysterious letter for something called the "Mushroom Circuit." It's a series of fights against Nintendo characters, with title defense fights as well. I'm picturing these being bonus fights not related to the main story. They could even add more as DLC or free updates. Ideally, they could work as skins or playable characters. You can even use them in multiplayer! Obviously, DK is one of these fights.
Punch Out for the Wii is one of my favorite games of all time and the best Wii game of all time. I really wish they got to do more with the stuff they came up with.
For Nintendo characters, there’s also Ricky the boxing kangaroo from Zelda, Boxin from Kirby, and Broozer from NSMB. Also, while you mentioned Hitmonchan as difficult to get permission for, I think it or Crabrawler/Crabominable would still be worth the effort, and would have some pretty interesting gameplay possibilities.
An idea for the unlockables:
Maybe, after beating all of each enemy boxer's challenges, you gain a modification to your star punch that can be swapped out in the customisation screen.
Maybe Glass Joe's turns your star punch into a long duration invincibility effect where your character automatically blocks and dodges incoming attacks, whilst Mr Sandman's turns it from a singular powerful punch into a barrage of punches that damage through blocks
I actually have a really good idea for this with Disco Kid.
1 Star - Absolutely useless. Mac just does a lil jig and the fight goes on as normal. You are invincible during the jig tho.
2 Star - Mac does a lil spin and his gloves hit the opponent. Simple as something that starts with S.
3 Star - Mac does Disco Kids 123 attack from TD after doing the lil jig from the one star.
There was a hidden 2 player versus mode in Super Punch Out that was recently discovered. One player has to be Mac though (or whatever his name in that game is supposed to be), so it's not the same as your idea.
MAJOR missed opportunity for your Nintendo Circuit idea to not include an ARMS character. C'mon, they're the other most notable Nintendo franchise featuring boxers! Speaking of, you got a little unfocused there at the end since you kept exclusively referring to the player character as Mac instead of something more neutral.
EDIT: OH! I just had the perfect identity to stick to your female champion: A genderflipped Nick Bruiser from Super Punch Out, so call her Nic or Nikki and make her brother Rick the male champion. Also that would make the perfect compliment to your joke about her boyfriend being Glass Joe, since the best records for KOing Nick have Glass Joe in 8th place as an easter egg, and there was a rumor started by Nintendo Power that Joe's single victory was against Nick in a freak accident.
Oh I am HERE for this! It's about time we got another Punch Out game!
Another fun unlockable idea: after getting some calientes done, the doc louis bien cutscene chances to him riding on a yoshi following little Mac
What if Katy was Aran Ryan’s little sister?? She’s based off of Katie, an Irish boxer, and he has the line “Me sister hits harder than you boy!”
These ideas are amazing!!
6:32 Isn't Punch Out!! about a man that may or may not be in a relationship with an intergalactic bounty hunter, but also has his bike stolen, only to team out with the alleged thief to seek glory in the ring by beating up Mike Tyson? That's some pretty deep lore right there.
It's so true how you said nintendo wants new entries to have new gimmicks.
As for f-zero having a new game, it really would be huge to just add an open world or linear action game to f-zero, with the big events still being races. like captain falcon is a bounty hunter, its pretty easy to do stuff with that. same for the other racers, everyone in f-zero has some crazy side thing going on.
I also remember there being a fan theory about how f-zero is like wrestling, as in it's all scripted and fake, that could actually be the framework for a whole set of new mechanics like crowd engagement, stunts, objectives within the race, rivalries, stuff like that.
14:03 heck the boxing ring even looks like a music staff, it really is a rhythm game in disguise.
This idea for a new Punch-Out!! game has popped up in my mind every now and again. Now after seeing this video it makes the concept sound even cooler! Out the ideas you presented I like the one with having two different leagues where you control a male boxer in 1 and a female boxer in the other. Plus the female boxer with the name Katie as a reference to an IRL boxer is a nice touch.
Also an idea I have that stems from using returning characters but with a twist. How about within the group of returning boxers, we have a few characters from the very obscure Punch-Out!! spinoff, Arm Wrestling? Such as Texas Mac, Alice & Ape III, Frank Jr. They would be reimagined a little to fit inline with the Punch-Out universe. For ex. I can think of a new name for Texas Mac being "Texas Hol-M" a cheeky play on Texas Hold-em. Alice with an upgraded Ape IV, and Frank maybe rechristened to "The Monster".
Plus if we go by your unlockable aesthetics idea we could say you can unlock a Mask X mask for Bald Bull! He did appear in Arm Wrestling under that alias so it would be a neat reference!
Despite what her Smash moveset would suggest, Samus has a lot of close-range moves these days, mostly thanks to Dread, and she’d be an absolute menace to fight.
I would love there to a be a mode called "Glass Joe's comeback" where you play as Glass Joe and fight through the circuits but you can train him up on the side and he gets stronger and stronger throughout the game and he eventually faces mr sandman, dk or even little mac. Maybe doc can teach him the star punch. Don't want it to be too similar to the main game so maybe having him start out very weak and having the training bonus on the side can make things more interesting.
First off, I’m glad you didn’t delay this to after Christmas but hey, no rush when it comes to your videos.
Second, I still don’t know if this is a fighting game exclusive series but if it isn’t, then may I suggest an episode for Kirby Air Ride 2 or even Project X Zone 3.
I always assume a good choice for the nintendo Circuit would be DK,Falcon, Karate Man Joe from Rhythm Heaven,if not the Rhythm Boxer from Fever. And Springman from ARMS.
Top 10 Nintendo Franchises That Need To Return:
10. Elite Beat Agents
9. 1080 Snowboarding
8. Wario Land
7. Sin & Punishment
6. Wave Race
5. Star Fox
4. Advance Wars
3. Punchout
2. Golden Sun
1. F-Zero
Does Endless Ocean count?
So, my immediate idea for how to add a new twist to F-Zero is since Mario kart 8 took inspiration from F-zero with the anti gravity mode, maybe F-zero should take inspiration from Mario kart, and have the main new mechanic be customizing your car, I imagine the single player mode has you do races to win prize money to buy new parts to win higher level races.
Honestly this is one of your most interesting videos to date, absolutely loved it.
I despise how a mandate for Nintendo sequels is always “add something new to the formula even if it means not releasing a new entry for 20 years”. This is what got us stuck with that terrible control scheme in Star Fox Zero that Nintendo refused to change despite opinions lambasting it all the way up to its release. You dont have to reinvent the wheel Nintendo. If Activision can get away with release CoDs that essentially the same every year, you can get away with a new Star Fox, F-Zero or Punch Out after 10-20 years of nothing.
Me and my brother have thought about a seguel for punch out. Our idea was little max as your trainer. Maybe the charter u play as cound look like super puntch out. Have that victory animation where doc Louis picks u up on his shoulders but with little max than have doc Lewis pick up max on his shoulders. Introduce new and old characters but give them coaches. For example give king hippo a protégé And how king hippo be in his corner. You could also Gabby J with glass joe in his corner. Kid quick be in disco kid’s corner. Also have one of von kiser students with von in his corner. Also have a relationship between coach’s and student evolve with the boxer. For example disco kid could get some new moves after he finishes his boxer sizing course. His relationship with a quick could deteriorate they could fight a lot and instead of him posing and leaving himself open He has a quick scuffle with kid quick.
I was listening to the idea for multiplayer and had an idea, Imagine this:
You beat the base story mode, credits roll, and at the end you get a bunch of unlocks, But one of them stands out:???
You select it, And it brings you to a menu with a bunch of squares with the shadowed out pictures of the various fighters, and two tabs, One with a padlock, the other having the gender symbol of the character you beat story with. (Male for Mac, Female for Katie.) Only the first fighter isn't shadowed out. (We'll consider you beat story with Mac.) Glass Joe. You pick the option and a cutscene plays.
Joe's sitting on a bench in an empty gym, Absolutely miserable. He's walking towards the exit, About to throw his boxing gloves in the bin. Then he looks over to a poster of Little Mac, Remembering how he was Mac's first fight... If Mac could become champion... He fastens his gloves, Walks up to a punching bag and gives it an almighty punch!... That barely moves it... In spite of that, Joe. Is. Determined.
The opponent select screen let's you pick the second boxer of the game. You start it up and you see the VS screen. And on the left? *Is Glass Joe.*
Yep, This new mode allows you to play a new round of the story with the opponent boxers. You cannot tell me that wouldn't be hype as hell.
17:24 I already like this video, this moment made it a masterpiece
0:41 ha, I saw twist joke coming. I love your stuff
Here's my pitch for a Nintendo Circuit if we go the Male/Female protag route.
For Little Mac/Whoever the male is:
-Donkey Kong because of course we need him
-Wart from SMB2. I wanted an obscure Mario character and he seemed like a good pick
-Captain Falcon. We can't leave him out he's too good to ignore
-Urban Champion. An old forgotten character that I feel deserves a comeback in some form
For the female character:
-Princess Peach. She was considered in Wii after all
-Min Min. Nintendo would probably try to promote Arms when given the chance, and Min Min has the popular vote
-Samus. Because of course she would try to get revenge on Mac
-Bea from Pokemon. It seemed like a fairly realistic pick on the female side if I'm being honest.
1:11 Yeah, great alternative. Definitely have a frame of reference.
Best thing out of this video is Glass Joe’s wife idea. Love it
Always been a fan of the old Mike Tyson's Punch Out! It was practicly my childhood, and the revival for the wii was SO GOOD! Anyway, loved your ideas, keep up doing great.
I had an idea for the 3 different type of boxers thing, a past-present-future story
Past - Doc Louis’s Reign - the first would focus on doc louis and his past, he would be a slugger, this would show us his past and how he rose to such an incredible status, since his age is unknown, let’s say he’s about the same age as sandman, for the final fight of his circuit would be a younger Mr. Sandman
Present - Little Mac’s Reign - same ol’ same old, no explanation needed, he’s a swarmer, with the final fight being, plot twist, Mike Tyson (they get the licensing rights again) and when that runs out, Mr. Dream, just like the NES version
Future - New Generation’s Reign - this story would be about a new boxer, an outboxer, and their own story, now who the final fight would be depends, for a female new boxer, it would be thorgi’s idea of glass joe’s wife, if a male new boxer however, an older little mac would be the final fight, YOU would be how he retires, that’s if you beat him however, as his super fast, super strong punches would be ridiculously difficult
Love this series, mostly stuck with Mike Tyson's PO but loved the Wii and even the snes one just as much.
If it came back I would like to see more influence from Super Punch Out characters alongside more new uncoventional boxers in general.
When he was talking about ideas for the female league my brain immediately went to “Posh british arrogant popular girl who comes from the same family as Narcissus Prince”
i'm surprised you didn't put the main character from Teleroboxer, the forgotten Virtual Boy boxing game in the nintendo circuit
that would be an amazing deep cut to make tbh
Howdy! I loved your video and its rally cool too see all your ideas! Right now im working with a team to make our own punch out style game!
No wait, even better. Don’t have ganondorf, have KING K ROOL, the crocodile is literally a boxer.
Yep.
I have been patiently anticipating for this video.
"The switch is entering the end of its life cycle"
Wait it hasn't been that lo-
Oh crap
To add onto the three character gimmick, the Swarmer should only be able to use one star at a time, but can throw multiple star punches in succession, the Slugger has a single high risk/reward star with a longer windup, and the Outboxer can have five slightly weaker stars that can stack. I think Little Mac should be the boxer puncher. That way we can have two male, and two female Boxers.
Assuming there are 13 boxers like in the last game, and half of them are returning characters, I'd pick:
Gabby Jay
Pizza Pasta
Mad Clown
Narcis Prince
Disco Kid
and Mr. Dream returning as the World Champion!
And for the Women's League, have Katy fight Princess Daisy, Jody Summer, and Twintelle. Twintelle could have FOUR boxing gloves!
My idea for the Nintendo Circuit and their unlocks:
Samus - futuristic and space related Boxing Ring
D.K - Replaces the music with the D.K rap (which can be toggled on and off)
Bowser - Get a giant shell on your back that has a small chance to make the enemy take a bit of damage
Captain Falcon - Replaces star punch effects with the Falcon Punch
King Dedede - Gives you a pink outfit with red boots (this is an obvious reference)
Hitmonchan - Gives you an outfit based on Red
Chrom - Replaces music with Id (Purpose) and gives you an outfit based on Robin (also can be toggled)
Considering the fact that I'm currently trying to fix my Wii U so it can read Wii disc again, SOLELY so I can play Punch-Out again... This would be such a dream come true. Everyone needs to start sending this video to Nintendo-
Hey Thorgi! Love your stuff!
Some of us like the Wii motion controls for Punch Out-complete with balance board, expressly *because* it makes the game harder. And it’s a great workout!
kinda want to swap out the arena idea with Ganondorf and Captain Falcon because in the lore of F-Zero Captain falcon is a title that is passed on through generations and the next Captain Falcon is the one to surpass the current. Since the protagonist would be beating falcon by doing this it makes too much sense for them to get a captain falcon costume, you can even have their star punch be the falcon punch.
Great video man.
Love all the ideas.
Super Punch-Out comes to mind when planning a Wii Punch-Out sequel for a few reasons. For one, it had some other boxers I'd love to see realized with full voices and models: Bob Charlie, Dragon Chan, Masked Muscle, Mad Clown, Narcis Prince and Hoy Quarlow. SPO's initial review in Nintendo Power had the negative part as follows:
'Needs more boxers. Can't choose to be a different boxer.' So that's the biggest change to make- give EVERYONE a full story mode with more background details about them (one of the Wii game's strengths is giving all of its boxers just as much international personality and humor as the Mercenaries in Team Fortress 2). Just imagine the triumph you'd feel when taking Glass Joe (or Gabby Jay) along the uphill path to the championship! SPO also had a 4th hidden Circuit as you mentioned, though if we're going to fit everyone plus the new guys in here we might need 5 or even 6 Circuits. The more, the merrier.
I have two fanservice ideas,
One, have Arm Wresting references. Ape II, Kabuki, and Frank can be new boxers, BUT! Bald Bull would come back as Mask X as a way to gain publicity again.
Two, have Mr. Dream be the final fight.
And maybe, if Bandai-Namco is interested, then we got someone from THE iDOLMASTER: SideM who can be a surprise Boxer.
Someone who can attract an Ostrich.
Nice to see a recent version of this idea.
Honestly I’m hoping we got a sequel from punch out that plays like Super Punch Out! I love how aggressive the game is and the Super punch is my favorite gameplay mechanic. Being able to do an uppercut, rapid jabs or rapid body blows. I always wouldn’t mind seeing out no eyebrows protagonist from the game.
Just an idea, why don't you do a Build a Roster video for a KING OF SLASHERS game concept? I mean SNK has some fighting games that have fighters specialize in weapons, i.e. Samurai Shodown, The Last Blade and World Heroes to name a few. It was a concept me and my friends thought back in the day when we saw King of Fighters. Would be fun to see a match between SamSho's Hanzo with World Heroes' Hanzo 😄
30 minutes of Punch Out crossover ideas and not a single mention of ARMS?
Hey Thorgi, I would wanna see what ideas you have for the Garou/Fatal fury sequel and how it should differentiate itself from KOF