Deported from New Zealand: Ex-criminals and Gang Members Sent to Tonga
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- čas přidán 5. 02. 2019
- In Deportees of Tonga: Gangsters in Paradise, VICE embeds with four Tongan nationals who have been sent back to the tiny island nation where they were born after serving prison time in New Zealand and the United States. Former gang members, they often struggle to reconnect with the culture, the language, and the people. They are haunted by the stigma of their criminal pasts, which casts a pall over their employment prospects and puts a barrier between them and their compatriots. Government support for returnees is non-existent, wages are low, and with Tonga in the midst of a methamphetamine crisis, the temptations to revert to the lives of crime they hoped to leave behind when they left prison are high.
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Amazing story telling. You never hear a journalist's voice asking and interpreting for the audience. You simply hear people telling their stories. And that's more than enough, it's powerful. Thank you Vice Asia for such a sensitive presentation.....
Yeah sympathy for the devil great job vice.
@@ollyx2 Jesus? Is that you?
@SuperSimba6 yes but it's the degree of "evil" that you commit eg stealing candy compared to shooting someone.
@@ollyx2 to Jesus, sin is SIN!
Cyber Simba 6
2 Corinthians 4:4 - In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Luke 10:18 - And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven.
1 John 5:19 - [And] we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness.
Anyone else decided to finally watch this due to it staying in your recommended for so long.
haha me
Yes. Glad I did.
Me❤
Yeah, and I learned that Tonga is a convict Island.
Lol I did something similar but much slower, in 2 steps, 1st decided to put it in downloads after seeing it in recommendations a lot & then finally not sure how many days later decided to watch it so I can delete it from my downloads.
"Since I couldn't fight God I'd fight everybody else." Feel like that's true for a lot of people in many ways.
God loves us, embrace Him you don't fight him.
@@edgar1013 dude, watch the thing. god refers to his dad here.
That's why Captain Ahab hates the whale.
@@fujin09 i understand I was just metaphorically speaking. cheers brah
Edgar Perret-Gentil God isn’t human and isn’t male or female
some of these dudes are very reflective, and they should be grateful that they've been given a second chance. Make the most of their new paradise 🌴🇹🇴
agree
This made me realize that I ain’t living that bad at all.. gota appreciate the things you have in life 🙏🏼
I’m honestly pretty surprised at how self aware some of these dudes are.
People act all the time. Most people are good people but just act to the circumstances they find themselves in.
Sometimes when people are removed from toxic environments and bullshit they actually get enough calm time to see themselves.... Like inside themselves
You got all the time in the world to sit back and just think about everything once you get deported back to the islands, there’s not much else to do
America has become a toxic environment on many levels when people keep buying into greed, consumerism and never having enough. It doesn’t help that the cost of living is sky high either. That’s the case in so many places around the world now. I had no idea people were getting exiled to South Pacific islands. I feel for these dudes and wish them peace.
@@kingtrance6826 blame LBJ for opening the flood gates of immigration we was another snake Ashkenazi in a long line.
Less competition and less scarcity would lower your rent just saying.
Lived on Maui some 20 something years ago. I'd pass a Tongan or Samoan picnic on the beach and they would always invite me over and offer me a piece of fish or crab. Good people. Good times.
@@dmran2004 never change you betch
@@suwoopsamoa6884 i think you ment bitch .
@@dmran2004 their hospitality depends on you're attitude.
Luckerlies der not drunking beer at da times of picnick
We're good ppl. Till u piss us off
"When you are brought down to your bare essentials, that is who you are, when you hit rock bottom" That comment from the OG is as real as it gets. My compadre Seone "Johnny Boy" Fifita was deported to Tonga in 98, haven't heard from him since. Nothing but love from East Los
I'm from East LA. Where abouts?
You should visit him in Tonga. Seriously
22 years later lol
he thought “Only Mexicans get deported”LMAO
Damn only 9 likes
Damn 49 now
I'm Mexican 😅😅😅😅
I'm Hispanic and grew up with nothing but 90 percent tongans. Half were two faced and the other half would die for you.
Dee Tee oh, you mean like a lot of other ethnicities?
There’s half idiots and half genuine good hearted peeps all over. Even my own Hawaiian blooded home.
@@thathawaiiandude787 yea just like any race . I'm just commenting on my experience....
It's the race in general man. They're the exact same here in Aus. They're either snakes or some of the most loyal friends you could make.
I’m Tongan man and I grew up a lot with them when I was younger, either cutthroat or the realest, that’s the way it is...
high tide low tide loyalty
I've been following vice for a long time, through ups and downs, through quality journalism and utter trash... This is one of the most beautiful, honest, raw pieces you have created. This is why I still come back and give vice chance after chance though all your hipster crap and trash journalism.
Ugh hipsters, they're like the most slapable people ever I never thought before a group of people could be slapable
Vice is cancer
@boris Odor fuck trump
It's only decent because it's "Vice Asia" USA Vice is liberal activists posing as journalist.
@Reflex your a fuck wit mate, im not anit trump as i dont live in your shit country, remember Americas not the only one on the planet, some of us could not care about you shit ass government
In my eyes they have been given a second chance.
Compared to being in a cell for the rest of there lives or dead it really is a second chance
@deloreandmc85 nothing matters
deloreandmc85 Everyone is scum.
Agree, it's very hard but it's keeping you away from the gangs and crime
My neighbors get envious when they see me pettin muh big 'ol pig 😂
Hey Josh, are you Poly?
They think it's his wife.
Banana republic people. U will be amazed by what they are jealous of. Guy with the land is lucky
Wow lol it was kinda funny .. I like him out of all them .. he’s more down to earth
Ryan Bugden Gotta tie up the asshole first. Good life lesson there.
Someone tell me why i'm watching the most moving vice documentaries instead of studying?
honestly!
damn good question. if you're looking for an answer: waitbutwhy.com/2013/10/why-procrastinators-procrastinate.html or simply google "waitbutwhy procrastination". helped me a great deal. but yea.. probably I should go back to studying now.
Cause is some realllly sad shittt😟😟☹️
Same hear I gotta do my fucking argumentative essay
motheo ntilane bruh I went from watching Tiny House videos to this shii! Lol..
"Hit the corner and got high with the Filipinos" 😂
I feel him on this lol
It's always the Filipinos
Lol!!!
Im Filipino😁😁
I'm from Hawaii and I am Filipino. I have a lot of Tongan friends. They are really nice people.
I love that old man. He seems like a grandpa who knows everything. Love my Tongan brothers from Samoa
Having ancestral land is a big advantage. It gives you a connection to the past, something to work for the present, something to hand onto future gens. Land is important, like a mother. It should be respected, cherished, and loved.
vice finally coming back with some quality stuff
Word
It's better than that leftist propaganda they spew... 🤷♂️
Seems to me going back to Tonga was the best thing for them
like that guy who can't be part of his kids life?
It's like you have everything and then you get sent back to a place you have to work and struggle. Life in the Islands is hard ma frend.
@@Soulshocks yeah, being deported is better than life in prison
@newagetojo well said...
@@mrfin02 do you hate all Maoris and Palagis?
its a paradise, and you own a land, I dont know why they see it so depressing? gang banging on the street of south central L.A I find much more depressing...
It's because their worlds have become a thousand times smaller.
For some it is as you say. But there are a few who had families.
Paradise isn't paradise when you don't have money or your family with you.
Trapped on a small island would slowly start to feel like jail.
@@Me-ex7qg what?
Looks like paradise to me. I’d give up everything I have in aus to be free on a beautiful island.. fishing hunting growing my own & building my home with my hands. No banks no interest not locked Into a mortgage for the rest of my life.. live it up gents & be truly free
You are exactly right. They aren't missing out on anything. They have an advantage spiritually to grow without being ground down by the western way of life. Maybe they miss the opportunity to make money or live in a fancy house but what price do most people pay for these things? They give up hours of their lives they will never get back just to drive a fancy car. I'd live in Tonga over working like a dog everyday for the man. It must be a free feeling. Some of these guys sound like they don't fully appreciate what they have.
Facts. Spoild n bored punks. I come from war in balkans, moved to sweden. Here is cold as fuck but its great. But if i could choose a warmer place like this damn. I would do it any time! Even if i have a regular job. Imagine palms, nice beach, seafood and great tan. Just walkin around in your t shirt. Fuck, weather is extremly important for me, besides living in peace that is
Amen to that.godbless all
It looks like its easy living in tonga, u should try living there
@@berrafatale25yearsago87 I'm in Dominican Republic right now and I'm debating if I want to even go back to communist toxic Canada.
Shit happens brothers. We all have demons to expel. Love each other. Forget about the past. Don't worry about the future. Enjoy today and what God has given you. Stay strong.
@@scottleft3672
Would that change his comment?
At some point, even people who are shot need to pick up their lives and move on.
@@scottleft3672 I have...and I 100% agree with his statement!
Shot and stabbed...cut!
Hell it's all we can do. Pick up the pieces...keep your head up and be a man!
So why do i suspect he'll do it again the minute he loses his shit?@@Maddi1224
@@scottleft3672 I'm not talking for him...or for anyone else for that matter! I'm speaking for me. And you don't "know" anything...clearly
@@scottleft3672 not shot. Just stabbed.
This was some heavy stuff.
Something I will never understand when they talk about gangs becoming a family but in the end they feel alone because it wasn't a true family 😕😕
I love how they don't shy away from the dark side if these beautiful places
Hola🌷
@1-800-BIGMIKE I didn't insult you, nor did I say anything offensive, so I don't appreciate that kind of aggressive response first of all. Secondly, you're entitled to your opinion just as am I, I personally try to see the positives in the world because I don't want to spend my whole life being pissed and negative about everything, but as i said you do you.
@1-800-BIGMIKE what dark place? u hate weed wacking? With an attitude like that. Im sure its a dark place for u..
i dont get your comment dosent make sense
I’m Micronesian, I moved to Hawaii in 2006 when I was 13 now I live on The West Coast. Hawaii has had a gang problem since the 70s but you’ll never hear about it. Cus the tourist industry is the biggest industry in these islands so thats what she meant, y’all just super sensitive like some bitches or just straight up dumb as bricks.
Dude shot someone. That's not shoplifting, that's a serious crime that affects many people
Tom Sullivan exactly
He was a kid ... on drugs at the time
thank you for all your informative and insightful videos
Excellent docu, thanks Vice!
2nd dude was born in Australia and then went to N.Z..why didn’t he get deported back to Australia..
Thats what i was thinking !
New Zealand: Hey Australia.. we got one of your guys here.. hes been misbehaving
Australia: Whats his name?
New Zealand: Sion.. Hello?.. Hello?..
First guy was an American deportee. But it doesn't surprise me that Australia didn't want whatever guy you referring to back. These cunts tried to deport a man who was born in PNG to a PNG mother & Australian Aboriginal father who moved the family to Queensland when they were little. Luckily through media spotlight they dropped it & released him but it took almost 2 months to happen. The audacity of the Australian government trying to deport someone who's bloodline runs tens of thousands of years deep in this country!
Just cos you're born in oz, it doesn't automatically make you a citizen...
@@graceclayton86 then how do you become a citizen then?
I hope our P.I kids who are gangsters in the U.S, N.Z and Australia watch this doco and learn something from it. The laws are changing if not already and they're not giving anyone a 2nd chance there. I hope these deportees like the many returning to their Island nations redeem themselves and learn from their past mistakes and share their experiences with the younger generations coming through going through the same shit they did.
THANKYOU For Sharing the information.
From Thailand :)
And the New Zealand PM complains about Australia deporting Kiwis, yet here they are doing the same thing
Hypocrite
they have to appear to be doing something to please voters its not for public interests
You can see the pain in each of his laughs in the opening driving scenes when speaking of his dad and other things
:(
I feel bad for the dude. He has a family to take care of
I see evil in that laugh
the murder victim's family is feeling pain.
Laughing about shooting a person four times in the stomach. He still thinks its cool. No remorse.
So because he laughed he has no remorse? What are you a snowflake?
@@DaRedeyeJedi808 Shut up you moron.Stupid trolling pos.
@@dreamsofturtles1828 your the moron who thinks because he's laughing doesn't mean he has no remorse there was alotta pain behind that laugh maybe if you were so full of yourself and such a dumbass you'd know this it doesn't take rocket science too figure it out so go troll a bridge and a topic your relevant in loser......
I actually became physically ill when I saw that. His only regret is that he was caught and punished. He's only remorseful in the sense that his situation now sucks and he feels sorry for himself, but he has no regrets for the murder he committed or the lives of the murdered boy's family that he ruined. He's a murderer and laughs about it.
He said he was getting picked on. I'm laughing a little also, Lol
You love drugs? I'm your best friend.
Raw.
Sign me up for Tonga. I know it's a jail for them I get it they don't fit in but shit. 10 acres and permaculture I'm fine
Most of the guys that have land are ppl who have families that pass it down to them, they're fortunate
But if u have that money (million) u can buy an island or land out there
I Cosign to that
Miss O.P. You can move there right? Since it’s an American territory and all?
@@DezzysSpeedShop American territory? What are you talking about?
I love to watch a follow up of how these guys are going in 5 years
VICE as always, great work, super interesting and involving videos!
The way he laugh, you can see how broken heart he's. I respect all of ya,cause you guys learn a hard lessons and know how to start from an empty hand.
I'd be scared of him b/c he's the type of person who laughs about shooting someone in the gut 4 times.
Yeah the guy should have been given life. He clearly has some serious issues.
He shouldn't been bullying him. I cant stand bullies.
@@ifinallyfoundthebeef so he deserved to get shot four times in the gut?
@@bidenhasdementia8657 yes. I cant stand bullies. I bet he never bullied anyone else after that.
@@ifinallyfoundthebeef #1. You don't even know that story was true.
#2. you sound like a horrible human being.
The video has been in my recommended for a month. I've probably ignored it 10+ times, but I'm glad that I just watched this.
Well done Vice, excellent storytelling.
Thanks for sharing your story my brother, hopefully God will open up your eyes to set you free on the new road to change, love from Island of BULA VINAKA,FIJI👍
The person you are when you have nothing at all is your true self
Sean Lewis no bro, you're wrong. The person you are is what you do when you have nothing among a prosperous society. If you kill, bash & steal to get your way, then that's who you are, a bad bastard.
Axel Foley nope that’s wrong he was correct .. you become your true self once you’ve humbled down.. people who kill to be a part of something without realizing their wrong doings come to terms with their true self as they grow older. If they do not change that means they are lost forever.
@@foxygirl849 Truth!
This is one of the reasons that I no longer will fight anyone, and I avoid physical confrontation pretty much at all costs. All it takes is one punch, and your life as you now know it is GONE. That quick, and in a flash.
A good friend of mine (An Attorney) told me about someone that he represented. He said that a fight had ensued (over a female, of all things) and that his client had hit the man just one time. The guy hit his head on the curb, and he died. On a plea deal his client got 14 years. He's still in jail at this moment. He'll probably be out in 5,6 years but his life is pretty much OVER. He won't be able to get a decent job because nobody will hire anyone with a felony record. It's sad, and all because he just could not walk away.
Great story. Thanks Vice.
very Insightful.
These guys are so awesome. They make me proud to be a human being and to have them as my brothers.
God bless you brother in your new start back home
Mean as to watch these fullas appreciate there second chance. Much respect and I hope these guys are doing well
Thank you guys for everything you guys are the Beast you guys are the best no matter who tells you what you guys are always the ones to linger up no matter what I just know that don't ever let anybody bring you down you guys are the greatest
Fruit falling off trees what a blessing.
More like Coconuts.
@@starquant Coconuts are fruits !
@@HoboTango Then why calling them nuts; coco-nuts
Flying Riders 😂😂😂 thank you I was hoping someone would tell him
@@HoboTango and here I was thinking a fruit was someone called "Liberace".. well who knew 🙀
Well done New Zealand.. countless life's & misery saved by deporting criminals. No sympathy from me for the criminals... Where are the victims voices??
True
Would love an update if possible please vice , awesome video
Nice doco. Seems a good number of the interviewees are quite fortunate to have nice plots of land in a tiny island nation. Good for them. Imagine how much tougher it is for the other 99% of deportees who do not own acres and acres of extremely fertile land. Hopefully they will all be good people from there on out. What are the stats on that?
I felt him when he was talking about his dad. That was my same story. Cant fight God so lets fight everyone else. What a lonely life huh?
I totally respected my Dad and was thankful he didn't cast me off. I suppose if you know that you have something to lose then your outlook is different.
hes a killer..my father beat me?did i love it? did i beat other people up?why do to other people stuff you most likely did not like receiving?
Lord Jeremy
Hurt people are hurt people who wanna hurt people. That’s why. It’s sad but true.
The mere fact that he talks about not being able to fight God means that he knows there is a Powerful God! I pray that God will open up his spiritual eyes and change his way of thinking, in Jesus Name. Amen!
Well done, excellent. You capture the humanity of the deportees.
Ahem you mean criminals
Stay up strong, don't give up, don't' give in.
Praying for you brush, peace and harmony. Stay strong!!
Bro, the old dude growing up in the states since 4 i can understand but alot of deportees left Tonga with hairy balls and they act like they don't know what's up when they get sent back with a fob twang.
lol what? are you poly??
It's a way different life to adjust to. They were there as kids moved to another country most there life then back to a island that has a completely different lifestyle when there older with half of them that has left there family's aswel. Ofcourse it's different for them and will be hard to adjust.
@@nissan9418 boohoo life's hard. Cry me a river, someone get out my tiny violin.
The first guy was creepy
think hes laughing at how he saw it back then when he was young thats why hes laughing and hes paying for it you gotta laugh otherwise you go abit nuts🤪
What a culture shock for these guys. Must be hard to adjust to a life outside their gang family. Hopefully they can find positive support from the community in their new situation.
Great documentary vice!
was a good doco because they never said a word lol
Man, I really hope all these guys are doing great and making it. They all seem like really great people at heart. I wish them nothing but the best.
I would rather have those 18 acres in serene Tonga than an apartment in Los Angeles.
america is a dump including la
New Info. Good Info.
Great vedio
The vedio has a powerful message and should be shown in the trouble areas. The mentor guy has great potential. All the best to him
Brgds Goa India
Funny how when they were talking about Australia deporting New Zealanders, it was a crime against humanity. But when it is New Zealand deporting to Tonga, it's different.
I am sure there are happy people in Tonga that live wonderful lives. My advice to these guys is to find those people and learn why they are happy and completely forget about your past life. Erase those thoughts the second they pop into your head.
Good Luck lads looks like you found some peace & love..
great vid.
Good luck to all the deportees in rebuilding there lives..... Good video!!!!!
Indeed some States or cities like LA are not places especially for immigrant families to start off. I know families who made the decision to move to calmer states in the north and midwest.
unbelievable how uncomfortable touching this is
Some of these guys are very articulate. It's a sad situation, especially for the victims and their families, but you guys are now free and can choose to live a life worthy of your being. You can become better. Do better, but you have to believe it because temptation is right there lingering.
Well said!
The third guy seems really intelligent.
The guy with the Nike cap is so conflicted....
Bro, they're all conflicted.
Powerful characters make for good documentaries....changes your perspective on humanity!
Now its time to start living... re educating yourself, re connecting to your roots, build a new future. Keep the faith, enjoy every day. Ofa atu.
I'm so glad you guys are getting culture finally..I'm so proud of you all .. God bless you guys 🙏🙏🙏🙏
I can relate to this...I am Mexican deportee. And its a complete life changing experience from living your whole life since child hood in America and having to go back to your country. These guys are strong...my respects to them
Mexico is also in America.
@@elpacho....9254 *United states of mexico.....now show where America is in the title name of mexico....in fact, show gow many countries have America in their official name.....go ahead, ill wait.
@@Christian.Knight it’s United Mexican states ignorumus, and Mexico as well as another 22 countries and 9 dependent territories are part of the American continent, including the United States.
My grandad was born in tonga to an italian mum and english dad. They ended up in new zealand and ee are still her today. A lot has changed since then. That was beforr the first world war. Hope tonga has a bright futuree
I wonder if any of these guys felt as sorry for their victims as they feel for themselves.
Rough stuff. Real powerful. A lot of regret, acceptance, and pain in those men.
@James Nagel, yes it is.
hmmm.. okay fine. ill re-sub again. you better bring good stuff like this.
These deportees shud be helping the young men in Tonga to not go down the same path they went down, I heard it’s methed up over there
People chose to become thugs,countries are the representation of their values and belifs.3rd world countries are 3rd world because the people living there are thuggish ghetto and have no work ethic.
It's methed up EVERYWHERE at the moment.
Kimo Man Preach..
@@palmtrees5459 Wish all you like, the IQ stats are dissmissed when it suits you.....America put a man on the moon.....your IQ tells you it couldn't have happened and was fake....lol.....you are the low IQ pal.
@@ercushkakulmetov7458 This is genuinely one of the stupidest statements I have read all week.
When a guy says he was bad, there is a hope, real evil men never say that.
Wish they can work hard and turn there place to little paradise.
Vartan Hrandian I know what you mean. it gives hope that he is going to make a change for the better.
Tonga is such a beautiful place and beautiful people. Big ups to yous living back in paradise usos!!
Man, lucky you guys go back to friendly island, happy to depend on natural to survive. The natural environment helps to upgrade low depress, stress and unhappiness . Also, sea water air very healthy. Eat from natural food still fresh, good immune system
This is sad, I always thought of Tonga as being a beautiful polenesian island nation.
Good luck to you deportees and make something good out of your life from now on.
peter Jan Rouw It is a beautiful country. There’s just stuff that’s not talked about
It still is! just like any other island/country, it has its ups and downs
Sad to hear that being dumped like rubbish. Hope yous all are well our people in many country sometimes have a family who will go beyond to protect there loved ones from harms and monsters. Ofa atu tokos
This is so sad ,when i see people who suffers like that i think i am so lucky.
@Clayton Shearer First of all you misunderstood me.I am lucky person who grow up caring parents,they loved me ,tought me everything,i said this is son sad because why a little child become a gang member when they grow up.A healthy person wouldn't want that kind of life for their children.I hope that help.Now i am a parent i am trying my best to keep my child from bad ones .
The first dude deadass laughed at shooting someone 4 times in the stomach 😳🤦🏽♂️😭😭
I think it was a laugh of regret, laughing at his stupidity and all the mistakes he's made. I know the feeling. Not that I've ever done something as terrible.
I called my mom a bad mom once. She immediately shamed me and pointed out how she puts a roof over my head and buys feminine products for me. I laughed, but at myself.
April Trevino don't try to explain what you already stated you can't understand. You didn't murder someone so you don't know what your reaction would be. taking a human life isn't the same as playing a video game.
Nunya Bizwack nah it was a laugh of regret
God bless you brothers . One love from Tuvalu 🇹🇻
I need to know more of the stories that are going on.
I would love to have an update on how these guys are doing presently. I agree with the deportation. But I think if u have changed and created a new positive life for yourself u should be able to see ur children. I couldn’t imagine never seeing my boys again. That’s real heartache
Oh those poor criminals that destroyed the lives of so many innocent people. To be stuck on a lush and tropical island, how sad.
Heart and soul goes out to all those who got eaten up by the streets and prison systems and never got to know life, purpose, and meaning outside of them. And for those that manage to escape the dark side of the world and are struggling to get back on their feet, the best I can do is give you my best wishes in staying upward and forward. Keep the hope and faith. ~Peace and love.
LongWindFPV my heart goes out to the innocent victims of criminals.
@@nunyabizwack343 Of course , for the victims. Right off the bat.
Wow, a really good vice doc in 2019.....
not a word spoken lol
I love the music they play on this. It fits perfectly