I originally thought they changed the past, but then when I went back they had a line that basically said if they destroy the bug in the same window before it can force a reset they'll be returned to the original timeline before any of their changes take effect...or something explained better than I did. Lol
I have been yelling at my screen every time I watch this season. I hated this episode less than the last three. The whole thing with Rayner being treated like an idiot is the absolute worst. I mean, in what quasi-military organization would an Ensign get away with what Tilly did to Rayner? Every time Rayner says something resisting the Woke crap, I am like, "Yeah. Listen to that guy!" It is paralled in the Saru romance thing, with the Ni'Var President's lackey trying to cock-block Saru, because again, the young know more than the older. It is painful for me to not like a Star Trek show. I believe the whole thing with "get to know the crew" is one of their clunky responses to the fact we barely know anything about the crew beyond Burnham, Tilly, and Saru. I barely even know half their character names. And last season, everybody was a Commander, because, yeah... I contrast this with Strange New Worlds & Lower Decks - and to a slightly lesser extent, Prodigy - in which the crew have all carved out little niches in my heart. TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VGR, & ENT - and to a far lesser extent, PIC - all have their own residences there too, of course. Discovery ending makes me think of that line from "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk": "We hate to see her go / But love to watch her leave"
At one point he snaps at her and says, "Don't tell me that you understand me!" And I was like... FUCK YA! Like don't get me wrong, I'm an impractically empathetic person. But like... at this point Discovery is basically staffed entirely by toxic hippies. If you've ever worked in an environment where people are 'competitively understanding' it's fucking exhausting. It virtually always ends up with women at the top faulting everyone else for not meeting some impossible ideal of how to behave that is completely non-functional, but becuase the group doesn't NEED to accomplsih goals, there's just all this naval gazing until you achieve this state of absolute social conformity. I spent three years in a ministry training program for the United Church of Canada, it was run by a closeted man and an old lesbian who was like the epitome of second wave feminism. The school could only function the way it did becuase it was living on the students tuition and funding from the national Church. It was toxic AF. The closet case would pressure people to criticize each other, but then swoop in to 'resolve confict' which he had created. I remember after he retired I was way less annoyed with this one middle aged woman and I told her that i'd never been able to appreciate her before then and I wasn't sure why but I wnated her to know that I felt like I had a much better idea of who she was now and I like her. She was like, oh yeah I used to be so anxious because of Ted, and so I criticized people so he wouldn't criticize me. I'm sorry I was so annoying before, it was my fault. In my first year practicum there I stumbled into the realization that the senior minister at the church i was working at was a serial predator. The staff at the school initially were 'very supportive' and told me to let them know 'anything you need'. (This guy's Trump like behaviour was actually well known in the denomination but everyone had just turned a blind eye for more than 25 years because that's what everyone else was doing.) Later when I told the old bitter lesbian (keep in mind, I'm gay) that I needed to cut back my hours for a while because I was having trouble not wanting to die because of how stressful the situation had gotten, she basically called me lazy. (Keep in mind the hour requirement every week was like I think 12 hours, I'd been averaging 30.) Anyway, yeah there's some episodes of Discovery I like... and I'm a disabled gay man, there aren't a lot of things that I'll complain about being 'too woke' or whatever. But season four and now season five... honestly a lot of these conversations are getting hard to watch. They're just sooo damned heavy handed. Like when they showed Old Brunham I get that the writers were like, "Oh we can show how much she's grown!" But I was just like YES A PERSON WHO HAS FEELINGS! I FORGOT THIS WOMAN COULD ACT! I have to wonder what the woman playing Burnham thinks? It just feels like Michael's emotional range has been really deadened. Also like I get that the writers are super big into non-violent communication. But that whole approach to conflict resolution just breaks down and turns into enabling when you have a narcissist involved in that negotiation. And especially in a post Trump world, it's flaws are so apparent.
Ok, the writing on this has gone downhill so badly it isn't funny. The whole time bug thing was insane and drawn way past any kind of sense of reason. Ya'll best be glad this is the final season for this because I am at my limits on the crazy overly dramatic BS you guys have going on now. Give it a flush and don't call JJA for anymore "help". You guys had a perfectly good storyline and in a number of things and this is the best you can come up with? Ya'll ain't trying very hard.
This episode is like the game of mad libs, but only played by little kids that do not understand what a "noun", "verb", "adjective" is and cannot us them correctly so that in the end it makes absolutely no sense.
I originally thought they changed the past, but then when I went back they had a line that basically said if they destroy the bug in the same window before it can force a reset they'll be returned to the original timeline before any of their changes take effect...or something explained better than I did. Lol
Time bug is a super weapon. It is the most powerful thing of all time!!!!!!! It is super tiny and could destroy almost anything????
Instead Burnham knows everything your right
I have been yelling at my screen every time I watch this season. I hated this episode less than the last three. The whole thing with Rayner being treated like an idiot is the absolute worst. I mean, in what quasi-military organization would an Ensign get away with what Tilly did to Rayner? Every time Rayner says something resisting the Woke crap, I am like, "Yeah. Listen to that guy!" It is paralled in the Saru romance thing, with the Ni'Var President's lackey trying to cock-block Saru, because again, the young know more than the older. It is painful for me to not like a Star Trek show. I believe the whole thing with "get to know the crew" is one of their clunky responses to the fact we barely know anything about the crew beyond Burnham, Tilly, and Saru. I barely even know half their character names. And last season, everybody was a Commander, because, yeah... I contrast this with Strange New Worlds & Lower Decks - and to a slightly lesser extent, Prodigy - in which the crew have all carved out little niches in my heart. TOS, TAS, TNG, DS9, VGR, & ENT - and to a far lesser extent, PIC - all have their own residences there too, of course. Discovery ending makes me think of that line from "Honky Tonk Badonkadonk":
"We hate to see her go / But love to watch her leave"
THE crew do wine and cry STD cant wait for the STD to clear up this year
I stopped watching STD during season 1 ... the whole series is so far out it is an abomination to the ST ideal.
At one point he snaps at her and says, "Don't tell me that you understand me!" And I was like... FUCK YA! Like don't get me wrong, I'm an impractically empathetic person. But like... at this point Discovery is basically staffed entirely by toxic hippies. If you've ever worked in an environment where people are 'competitively understanding' it's fucking exhausting. It virtually always ends up with women at the top faulting everyone else for not meeting some impossible ideal of how to behave that is completely non-functional, but becuase the group doesn't NEED to accomplsih goals, there's just all this naval gazing until you achieve this state of absolute social conformity.
I spent three years in a ministry training program for the United Church of Canada, it was run by a closeted man and an old lesbian who was like the epitome of second wave feminism. The school could only function the way it did becuase it was living on the students tuition and funding from the national Church. It was toxic AF. The closet case would pressure people to criticize each other, but then swoop in to 'resolve confict' which he had created. I remember after he retired I was way less annoyed with this one middle aged woman and I told her that i'd never been able to appreciate her before then and I wasn't sure why but I wnated her to know that I felt like I had a much better idea of who she was now and I like her. She was like, oh yeah I used to be so anxious because of Ted, and so I criticized people so he wouldn't criticize me. I'm sorry I was so annoying before, it was my fault.
In my first year practicum there I stumbled into the realization that the senior minister at the church i was working at was a serial predator. The staff at the school initially were 'very supportive' and told me to let them know 'anything you need'. (This guy's Trump like behaviour was actually well known in the denomination but everyone had just turned a blind eye for more than 25 years because that's what everyone else was doing.) Later when I told the old bitter lesbian (keep in mind, I'm gay) that I needed to cut back my hours for a while because I was having trouble not wanting to die because of how stressful the situation had gotten, she basically called me lazy. (Keep in mind the hour requirement every week was like I think 12 hours, I'd been averaging 30.)
Anyway, yeah there's some episodes of Discovery I like... and I'm a disabled gay man, there aren't a lot of things that I'll complain about being 'too woke' or whatever. But season four and now season five... honestly a lot of these conversations are getting hard to watch. They're just sooo damned heavy handed. Like when they showed Old Brunham I get that the writers were like, "Oh we can show how much she's grown!" But I was just like YES A PERSON WHO HAS FEELINGS! I FORGOT THIS WOMAN COULD ACT! I have to wonder what the woman playing Burnham thinks? It just feels like Michael's emotional range has been really deadened.
Also like I get that the writers are super big into non-violent communication. But that whole approach to conflict resolution just breaks down and turns into enabling when you have a narcissist involved in that negotiation. And especially in a post Trump world, it's flaws are so apparent.
I hated this show. So contrived the characters walk around like stiff dummies. Awful show.
Ok, the writing on this has gone downhill so badly it isn't funny. The whole time bug thing was insane and drawn way past any kind of sense of reason. Ya'll best be glad this is the final season for this because I am at my limits on the crazy overly dramatic BS you guys have going on now. Give it a flush and don't call JJA for anymore "help".
You guys had a perfectly good storyline and in a number of things and this is the best you can come up with? Ya'll ain't trying very hard.
This episode is like the game of mad libs, but only played by little kids that do not understand what a "noun", "verb", "adjective" is and cannot us them correctly so that in the end it makes absolutely no sense.