First Four Years (1951) | BFI National Archive
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- This majestic documentary tells the story of ambitious modernisation in the Welsh steel and tinplate industry. This involved upgrading the Margam works near Port Talbot and building both the Abbey hot strip mill next door and a new cold rolling mill and tinplate works at Trostre near Llanelli. Film cameras were frequently on hand: thanks to them, an integrated mega-complex takes shape before our eyes.
The film was produced by cooperative production company DATA, whose dynamic leader Donald Alexander secured rolling contracts with both the National Coal Board (for the Mining Review series for which DATA is best known) and the Steel Company of Wales for ongoing coverage of the developments summarised here. No doubt DATA's filmmakers, based in London, frequently combined steel with coal filmmaking trips to Wales. Clocking in at over 40 minutes, this compilation of DATA's footage is an exhaustive progress report on four years' worth of large-scale and complex work. Taken a sequence at a time, it's engrossing industrial history. Taken as a whole it's a cinematic monument, colossal in scale but intricate in detail, to the magnitude of a major project - and the sheer ambitious optimism of the postwar re-investment in British industry that lay behind it.
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I visited Cardiff Bay for work this week. I had a walk in the morning before my meeting. I looked out at the old harbour and imagined the ships there 100 years ago. I read an information board saying it was the biggest industrial harbour in the world, now sadly all gone. Then I think back to our great industrial heritage. If you could imagine 100s of Amazon warehouses stacked full of industry of all kinds, the ingenuity, the skills, knowledge and wealth. Now there is one of those warehouses with a small pile of pennies in the corner, that's what left. How the politicians and the establishment have destroyed this country, it makes me very sad and angry. The next general election will only replace the current bunch of idiots with the new ones. Beam me up, Scoty.
Sorry boyo NKD. The Klingons have drained our crystals.
Regrettably the only thing that'll change post election is the colour of the flag atop the pole, such is the state of British politics today.
My father was born at Tiger Bay, in 42, so you walked in his footprints, as a merchant sailor he seen the world and brought his family to Australia in 68
The voters voted for the politicians.
There is no separate species of people called politicians.
People get what they vote for.
Vote for mainstream CON/Lab/Lib politicians, and you'll have the land we have today.
Vote for any party that should put the nation first, and you'll have a different land. Even if the land isn't t a successful one, it shouldn't be a voluntarily destroyed one.
People shall blame anyone but themselves.
The people who vote in the politicians that destroy your way of life are the ones who live in the cities these people built. Thy think that houses just grow from the ground, you plant the trees that grow your computers, and the food you eat just falls out of the packaging plant.
Has anyone watching this ever dug out wet clay with a shovel I have and by god it’s hard work men where men back then and had to do hard graft like this
They built our country ❤
I did when waiting to start my apprenticeship in 1970 aged 16
Me to in a oil refinery for Mcalpines in the 70s, a grafter made it just bearable, hard work though
I have yes. On a similar thing. We had 40 tons of gravel delivered at my uncle's - hes a farmer - about 65 years old at the time. I said i would give him a hand moving it - I thought it would take 2 or 3 days. I was about 2 or 3 hours late. HE HAD SHIFTED THE LOT...!!!
Him 1 wheelbarrow, a shovel and 3 hours of hard graft he moves 40 toms of gravel from the road to the back of the farm buildings.
Very correct
In my opinion, the guys who built this infrastructure are heroes of the first order. Although some of the film may be 'staged' for the cameras, there's little doubt that these workers took their lives in their hands to get the job done. We owe them a debt of gratitude.
Well said!, your words echo my opinion also!.
@@richardrowlands9113 They want us to believe Britain was built by blacks and brown people, showing documentary films like this will be forbidden soon because they don't show how diverse enough we were, they should be shown and studied in every school in the country to show what made this country great and what has been lost.
No it was not staged it was all done by the Ministry of Works of the Atlee Government on site with the men and Management.
Life was better back then. Now, you have more stuff, but your communities and families are torn asunder.
Dad was a storeman in Ebbw Vale, he issued anything fron a clock spring to a half tonne bronze bearing. The store was 1/2 mile long, so they had a bike with basket. The site was 3.5 miles long. I was there when they opened a new Electolytic Tinning Line 1971/2, I was in IT dept. There were 9,800 on the payroll. Hardly a trace left today, just the original brick built main office.
When Britain was GREAT and British .
I hated school and in my Biological fathers Leyland Octopus As a little lad smuggled under blankets in to Trostre Velindre etc...(Kids wait in the security hut) not Me.!!!!!I peeked out watching the crane loading the steel/tinplate...Wonderful childhood and still cab happy UK Europe at 81....Lovely memories....
Worked on 1/2/3 furnaces in the early 70s. All gone now.
Only when things started to get easier here did people from other countries start setting their eyes on coming to the UK to stay 🇬🇧
Horses, Canals, Steelworks, Railways, Coalmines... All gone, but not forgotten.
the days we got on with the job, lets just get the job done, not like the last 40yrs,construction, donkey jackets and wellies freezing in the winter wet in the rain, a remember those days, to think a wind proof quilted viz jacket to day, they wouldn't last a week, men of steel those days, tough as boot leather,
What's the point of that? I bet it put many of them in an early grave, poor buggers.
You got that wrong mate. They were a tough as OLD boot leather! Two working generations later, all bloody gone! What a waste
It is now 2024 some 73 years since this film was made and now all those steel works have since gone and no longer exist.
Those fellows, hard at work, on hard jobs. I jolly well admire them to the extreme. I worked forty years in canning, using the tinplate from these mills. Peace and goodwill.
I hauled steel back in the 70’s, I recall picking up a couple of ingot mould stools at Shanango Steel in Lackawanna New York, and delivered them
directly to the # 1 melt shop at Stelco ( Steel Company of Canada ). I’ve picked up a lot of steel product, coils, plate, bar, ingots, billets, but
what I got to see inside that building was heavy industry in your face. I had to wait in there with my truck and trailer while they taped and poured
molten steel further up the building, then the crane carried the product by my truck. This huge gantry crane then came along and lifted
the mould stools of my trailer. Apparently they bump the solid red hot “ pig “ onto the stool, and the “pig “ remains on the stool till it’s soon
shipped to the nearby rolling mill. Meanwhile the empty mould goes back to the furnace area to be refilled once it’s tapped. It had to be close
to a 100 degrees in that building. Being the dead of winter my air system froze up soon after I left, and I had to add methyl hydrate to the tanks.
Used to watch them tap the furnace on a quiet night shift. Amazing stuff.
The working conditions are frightening. But they got the job done.
I could watch shows like this all day. 👍
Should have a lot more views.
Wonderful to see these old films.
Amazing from marsh land to producing steel, in 4 years. I'm amazed that the men working around the molten metal are so calm.
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@George Rhys definitely, I've been watching on kaldrostream for years myself =)
@George Rhys definitely, I have been watching on KaldroStream for since december myself :D
Wonderful stuff. My grandfather worked in the tinplate works in Gowerton. Fantastic to get an idea of how they worked.
it always amazes me the scale of capital required for something like this would be considered worth investing, of course in these years with a destroyed europe there would have been a great demand for product.
See the guys rolling the white-hot steel ingots (@ 37:32) wearing their 'Sunday best' three piece suits and trilby hats! Obviously, dressing scruffily is bad form whilst making steel.
Dressing scruffily is bad when the wife learns you’re going to be filmed!
That was the norm, and clean-shaven collar and tie wasn't just for office workers!
That hat was the only hat they had
Roller man. Best job in the woks. Used to watch that too.
Being British, they knew that the most important thing when working in an industrial setting like this with tons of powerful machinery is to wear a necktie. That way. You maximize the chance for your tie Getting caught in the machinery which would crush you within seconds. At least you had a sharp tie on. They had a brilliant sense of style.
Built by giants destroyed by politicians
...voted for, and still being voted for, by the " Giants ".
If they had these MEN on the HS2 it would be finished
The guys controlling the rolling mill were top men, hence the Truby Hat and not flat caps as a symbol of their skill and standing, with all those knobs, gauges and levers, must have felt like they were controlling the starship Enterprise 😊
More the responsibility, rolling mills when they go wrong is terrifying
Back when the UK made things.
"Sand(in this case) is available in unlimited quantities". How often have we heard something similar to that said. And 50 years later or less, it's all gone.
Interesting thing the diesel locomotive pushing the flatbed of ingots is an american built switcher made by Alco.
AFAIK, the works used 5 Alco’s (#801-805) along side Brush / Rolls Royce locos, which replaced the older steam locos
Lima cranes & Euclid trucks too!
Rolling mill stands, United Engineering & Foundry PGH.
Absolutely brilliant footage!
Nice record!
Made in Great Britain, what do we make now!
Foreigners
Made in Great Britain 🇬🇧 and what do we make now ?? Answer Shit Politicians and a Government that doesn't give a stuff about anyone else but there greedy selves and there corrupt friends and family.
😭😭😭
Question marks!
Welfare for blacks
Not a lot 😂
Wonderful workers and great plans, but many sad comments... not much else to say. Huge ambitions, all derelict or just memories and museums!
Amazing !
Where did the steel for Raleigh bicycles made at Nottingham come from?
So labour intensive great video 💪💪
35mins 07 seconds in MAD MAX MUSIC 👍👍👍⭐️🇬🇧
Two world wars and all that work throughout this once great land all for where we are now ... Im 100% sure if my grandfathers and great father's could see the state of this country now none of them would have gone to war... I struggle to believe there has ever been a era of greater political incompetence than the last 60 years in the uk...
Magnificent what self-belief can do.
Worked in Etna Iron steel Works as hand Roller in the Strip mill , most antiquated, mill is Scotland 1965 All gone
the pulpit controllers' jobs 35:00 must have been transformed with the advent of CCTV
If the furnace is hot enough to melt iron, what does the furnace itself not melt?
The Furnace is lined with kiln bricks (a skilled job) then the Tuyeres that feed the blast air into the furnace are cooled by water jackets so they don't melt.
I was expecting more diversity, given recent claims in the media of who actually built Britain. Hard working men, who probably wouldn’t recognise any aspect of regressive modern life.
According to the BBC it was the "Windrush Generation" that built everything postwar.🙄
I worked at the Dutch Steel Factory; Hoogovens IJmuiden.
And at the part, where they used to do steel plating, the Hall was called; De Maagdenhal.. Meaning: ''Hall of Virgins''...because , back then there were mostly woman working there..
And those days, only unmarried women worked..
What a nasty scar on the landscape. Port Talbot itself on a windy, wet winters day - if feeling suicidal, visiting that place will 'clinch' it ! i used to have to deliver to the place - what a depressing hole, i could never understand why anyone would want to live there.
You may be right, but we all owe the people who work (and live) there, a huge debt of gratitude
@@davidvivian596And the guys in the pits. Eternal respect to the people of South Wales whose communities were destroyed by Thatcher and her ilk.
What's the piece of music from 28:40 to 31:00. I recall Emerson Lake & Palmer performed it. I can't find it on any of the listings in the desrciption.
Aaron Copland “Hoedown”
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Could it be "Pictures at an exhibition " by Mussorgsky? ELP had an album and a film with this title.
No, not pictures at ..... It's actually Aaron Copland 'Rodeo' YT it.. enjoy.
Look up Appalachian Spring by Copland
So how long did the steel plant last is still there
Yes.its still there. I work there
Still there and still going strong - built for The Steel Company of Wales (SCOW), from 1948 along side the older Margam works. SCOW later became British Steel Corpoation, then British Steel, then Corus, and now currently owned by Tata
@@chezpostmanpata saying attributed to an Gent " when the Indians can make their own railway track,I'll eat a pound of it . ( Tata )
How the Hello you go about designing a factory like this awesome
Fascinating - back when we had the optimism to build things. It's all a wasteland now.
13:43 One slip and she's all over for of these blokes.
The Humans of the future wish they would bring restore the farms to grow food for them to eat, and fix back all the coal fumes that fill the atmosphere. Dont get me wrong, my great Grandad Thomas Jones, worked in the steel mills all his life, and his dad in the coal mines.
😮😢😊 etter slike natur inngrep håper jeg fabrikken fortsatt er i bruk og att folk ser verdien i stål
No, all is gone :-(
Chap in the thumbnail: Mark Selby?
If only these chap's were given the role of building HS2 it's completion would have been done years ago at less than half the cost
And not a single mobile phone 📲 in sight 🥹🥲
And there is was.......Gone
Old times.
This is Pakistan now?
6:10 ex military carrier?
When Britain had ` HEAVY INDUSTRY ` &
` McAlpines Fusileers `
Not ‘ have visited’ but ‘ visited’ - poor grammar lurks everywhere.
The environmental issues here are utterly eye watering!
How did they make your pink knickers? 😂
@@tonydalton6756 exactly!
Interesting map with the name Hibernian almost totally erased from the country
What happened to it
Churchill warned against socialism….
Modern day young Welshman: sorry pal, i dont work, see. I'm going to top up my tan, see, at the salon. Then i need to buy some more beard oil. Then i'm going to the parlour for some more tattoo, see.
No sign of PPE or health and safety regs in operation!
no purple hair or " they thems " either. Better days then.
Health and safety wasn’t much back then,now you can’t go to the toilet on a construction site without permission..
All this going on and before diversity. Perhaps it may have been built faster, if we had. How did GB manage without it.🤣🤣
Nowadays the heaviest industry is some spotty oik prancing in front of a camera for views. Christ how the world has changed in just 50 yeas.
Funny 🤣
We now in the age of the biggest landfill that's progress regaurd to Amazon u can Inheret all my chipboard and plastic
Can you get radiation sickness working in a furness ,thy must have sufferd lots of burns
Try and find men like this now!
Hideous. Knock it all down. Restore the lake. Rebuild the Abbey. All workers to become monks.
Where today at the top of our government system is the ability to visualise instigate and fund and deliver such projects, sadly gone I fear. DEI, transgender forces and too much immigration is all on the priorities of our "betters". To build new and something useful [not like HS2] that we could all admire, would not that be what they should be spending our money on?
Imagine doing all this without an environmental impact survey😂
15000 tons of coke per week 😂
Not a lot of obesity going on, not many fat people working hard.
They were girls! Not woman😂
noticed.
Don’t you mean women
@@charlesreid3482 their a little young
All fit healthy lean men..now obese there....says a lot
I am saying nothing. (Yawn)
Fontana California had a self sufficient large steel plant. Raw materials such as iron ore Eagle Mountain California were delivered by rail most all owned by Henry J Kaiser.
Finished product as beam, sheet, and plate all under one roof.
Steel the very back bone of a nation’s strength. When Apollo 11 put men on the moon it was Mesabi Range sourced steel that stayed behind in the rocket blast to support the vessel and made it possible.
The movie Steel Town was filmed there with the beautiful Ann Sheridan and Howard Duff.
The film also featured Henry’s own line of cars produced elsewhere with his own steel.
As a time line reference my 1951 Chevrolet pickup is still in service with its original equipment and engine. Quality construction of the time period so obvious as now 73 years on. 🇬🇧🫱🏼🫲🏻🇺🇸