The Choices of Master Aragorn: A Book v. Movie AND Literary Analysis!

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  • čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
  • Aragorn’s choice to follow the Uruk-hai in order to rescue Merry and Pippin is made very differently in the original book as compared to Peter Jackson’s movie trilogy, but the same scene also foreshadows in some ways Sam’s own difficult choices much later in the story.
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Komentáře • 23

  • @aleksandrh.4251
    @aleksandrh.4251 Před 4 dny +7

    23:18 He was not just motionless.
    "Then as quickly as he could he cut away the binding cords and laid his head upon Frodo’s breast and to his mouth, but no stir of life could he find, nor feel the faintest flutter of the heart. Often he chafed his master’s hands and feet, and touched his brow, but all were cold."

    • @TolkienLorePodcast
      @TolkienLorePodcast  Před 4 dny +4

      Fair point, he did check his breath and heart. Been too long since I read that I guess lol

  • @gandalfolorin-kl3pj
    @gandalfolorin-kl3pj Před 5 dny +6

    My dear melon Geek: One day before I get too old (I'm already pushing 70), we really must meet and do nothing but visit about Tolkien for whatever the length a good hobbit visit would be. Your insight is so clear and you articulate very well things that I have noticed in my many readings of the LotR. May you always be blessed with such insight, my melon. Namarie.

  • @iainmc9859
    @iainmc9859 Před 4 dny +3

    Both Aragorn and Sam made the correct choice, even discounting hindsight and the contruct of a planned novel (presuming Tolkien had planned that far).
    The right choice for Aragorn was to pursue the 'immediate' threat to Merry and Pippin.
    The right choice for Sam was not to 'give up' Frodo's quest that he knew so much hinged upon; if he thought Frodo was possibly alive he wouldn't have left him.

  • @eschiedler
    @eschiedler Před 5 dny +4

    WHile I prefer the Tolkien Aragorn much more over the Jackson Aragorn (adaptation limiations aside), I have noticed that Viggo Mortensen's portrayal appealled to a lot of people that had not read the book before watching the films. Many said they really bought into the movie when Aragorn appears at Bree and later fights the Nazgul with fire on Weathertop.

  • @factorfantasyweekly
    @factorfantasyweekly Před 4 dny

    Another great analysis 👏🏼

  • @dakotagere8358
    @dakotagere8358 Před 5 dny +2

    I always really enjoy these analysis and comparison videos.

  • @drunkdave5677
    @drunkdave5677 Před 3 dny +1

    When the company runs off into the woods, the text describes it as a madness overcoming them. Was that because they had been in the company of the ring for so long that when they realize it is gone or could be gone, they have a sudden hunger for it that they didn't realize was there all along?

    • @TolkienLorePodcast
      @TolkienLorePodcast  Před 3 dny +1

      Could be that, or as someone else suggested the influence of Saruman, or it could be just an expression. Another example of how Tolkien makes things more interesting by NOT explaining lol.

  • @Chociewitka
    @Chociewitka Před 4 dny +2

    book Aragon has plenty of self-doubt long before - on their way from Bree to Rivendell almost every 2nd statement from him is how he had made a(-nother) mistake and failed everybody and their mission...

    • @brovold72
      @brovold72 Před 4 dny +1

      Right, though he never doubts the mission itself, or that his own Destiny is bound up in it.

  • @Peak_Aussieman
    @Peak_Aussieman Před 5 dny +2

    You could argue that Sam taking the ring but not abandoning Frodo is him hedging his bets.

  • @jaredmarkham7300
    @jaredmarkham7300 Před 5 dny +2

    I have 2 questions the 1st 1 has to do with The fact that in the book Aragorn Has the Blade reforged after setting out From Where is The movie he doesn't get it Until he chooses to take the paths of the dead Return of the king Change the movies Airborne To have the blade Has it in the book My second question is What Power level does the bellrog Have when Gandalf is fighting it is it only at like 20% Especially in the Movie And a little bit in the book We're supposed to breathe Yes Stronger than the bellrog

    • @Jeremyhughes86
      @Jeremyhughes86 Před 5 dny +1

      your wording makes this difficult to understand so, I can't really answer the question about the sword without clarification. that said, the Balrog and Gandalf as well as the other four Istari (wizards) are all Maiar. they are divine beings. the Balrog having been corrupted my Melkor long ago, and the wizards having been cloaked in the flesh of men and having their own powers limited. there is no indication in the fight either party is holding back. so, while there is no direct power scaling...the Balrog wasn't going at 20% power. this was a battle between divine beings, that lasted several days. at the end, to kill the Balrog, Gandalf himself died for the effort. he was later revived with a greater measure of his restrained power unlocked. had the Balrog been holding back by any measure the fight would not have lasted for days, and the Balrog would have lived. so while no direct measure of power is ever given one should assume that while he was "The Grey" Gandalf was roughly equal to the Balrog, and as "The White" he was more powerful.

    • @brovold72
      @brovold72 Před 4 dny

      @@Jeremyhughes86Also, in the Silmarillion, Balrogs are killed by great elves -- though self-sacrifice is required in those cases also. It's not that balrogs are weaker than we might think, but that, in this world, some "people" (human or otherwise) are FAR Greater than regular warriors.

    • @brovold72
      @brovold72 Před 4 dny

      In the book, the shards of Narsil, which Aragorn has long carried on his person, are reforged in Rivendell before the Fellowship sets out.

    • @brovold72
      @brovold72 Před 4 dny

      I get the sense, though it's not explicitly laid out, that the panic that overtakes the company when the orcs attack is, in part, some devilry of Saruman. This seems more plausible in light of looking back from the next book, when Aragorn describes some Will that seems to fatigue him but lends strength to the band of Uruk-Hai that they're pursuing. Legolas concurs.

  • @telimektarband3615
    @telimektarband3615 Před 4 dny

    Do you think movie screenwriters try to adapt the book to make the story better, or do they adjust according to time constraints in order to make a good adaptation? Philipa makes it clear in the extended editions that she thinks some of Tolkiens work does not adapt to the story. I think it is a good conversation if you break down why they made choices to change the story based on how they wanted to present a movie. Great channel! Thanks for your dedication :)

    • @TolkienLorePodcast
      @TolkienLorePodcast  Před 4 dny +1

      I think there are a lot of things that go into that. Time is certainly a big thing because almost all books have too much material to adapt to a movie. Also I think some story elements get changed because screenwriters think the original won’t do well for whatever reason.

    • @laurenbernstein621
      @laurenbernstein621 Před 3 dny

      It's never going to happen but I'd love to see LOTR adapted as a 6-season TV show/miniseries

    • @telimektarband3615
      @telimektarband3615 Před 2 dny +1

      @ laurenbernstein621 I guess it could happen, but who would it be, and would they be Tolkien purists creating an in-depth world of Middle Earth, or would they be another movie producer that mirrors what we see with Rings of Power? Adaptions can never capture the depths of the books, but there is time to create a better adaptation that is better than what we have, and a 6 season series would be a great way to achieve this.

  • @jonathonfrazier6622
    @jonathonfrazier6622 Před 5 dny

    Cool.

  • @Enerdhil
    @Enerdhil Před 5 dny

    First comment?