Why Progressive Events Like “Pride Month” Won’t Last

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  • čas přidán 1. 07. 2024
  • In this little lecture I’ll be discussing a sociological concept I call “The Dual Calendar”, whereby due to high levels of political polarisation over the last few decades, both Progressives and Conservatives now find themselves living in their own worlds, and as such, having their own unique events.
    But I only believe one such world view will ultimately last the test of time, and as the title implies, I don’t believe it shall be the progressive one.
    As the progressive crowning jewel of “pride month” comes to yet another end for the year, join me as I reflect on this impeccably complex conflict of interests.
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Komentáře • 964

  • @arnowisp6244
    @arnowisp6244 Před 6 dny +553

    "Tradition isn't about worshipping the Ashes but Preserving the Fire."

    • @mikesecondname
      @mikesecondname Před dnem +1

      This saying is brilliant. Did you make it up on the spot?

    • @arnowisp6244
      @arnowisp6244 Před dnem +15

      @@mikesecondname Heard it from a Channel talking about how Traditional European Architecture is making a Comeback. The one where the People who live in it like it but the modernist Architects hate.

    • @CommanderRedEXE
      @CommanderRedEXE Před dnem +7

      ​@@arnowisp6244 I don't know anyone who likes modern architecture and homes because it's so copy paste and sanitary.
      It's the perfect Indicator of where society as a whole has gone and why so many are becoming more disgruntled at things.

    • @miscellaneous2160
      @miscellaneous2160 Před dnem +1

      To anyone who's wondering what this is from, I think It was from G. K. Chesterton

    • @arnowisp6244
      @arnowisp6244 Před dnem +4

      @@miscellaneous2160 Damn. No wonder why it's from the legend Himself.
      Edit: Actually it's from Gustav Mahler.

  • @Alvosploio
    @Alvosploio Před 7 dny +572

    I work as a security guard at an office. When one of the facilities guys took down the pride flag on July 1st, he angrily bundled it up like an annoying piece of paper, thinking no one saw. Then realizing someone would notice if he stored it like that, folded it properly. People secretly don't really like it, but they are socially coerced into being indifferent.

    • @Necroman98
      @Necroman98 Před 6 dny +8

      @@Alvosploio One guy is not people in general.

    • @Alvosploio
      @Alvosploio Před 6 dny +126

      ​@@Necroman98 I didn't indicate how many or how few. Please don't "Generalities vs Cult of Not All" me. I'm tired, man.

    • @Necroman98
      @Necroman98 Před 6 dny +2

      @@Alvosploio K

    • @relishcakes4525
      @relishcakes4525 Před 5 dny +24

      ​@Necroman98 suddenly it's "not all". I remember me too.

    • @Necroman98
      @Necroman98 Před 4 dny

      @@relishcakes4525 What is the Cult of not all?

  • @DionPanday
    @DionPanday Před 7 dny +776

    It was men’s mental health awareness month but people remember only the alphabet soup month. That’s concerning

    • @Will-eq6vy
      @Will-eq6vy Před 7 dny +27

      Its not a competition

    • @me-eat-book_7780
      @me-eat-book_7780 Před 7 dny +86

      And fathers day

    • @tuningtunetuningtuningfunny
      @tuningtunetuningtuningfunny Před 7 dny +114

      @@Will-eq6vy I can't agree entirely. While not everyone is extreme it still has turned into a tribalistic cult. ''Either follow the leader or be socially ostracized.''
      It is a competition of who gets to be the crown of the pity party.

    • @DionPanday
      @DionPanday Před 7 dny +99

      @@Will-eq6vy so you would be fine if we’d phase out pride month since it’s not a competition right?

    • @alsatusmd1A13
      @alsatusmd1A13 Před 7 dny +12

      That’s because the alphabet soup nominally includes women. Men’s mental health awareness is just about men. However, the sexual attraction/sexuality angle probably gives men non-trivial (at least 55/45) majority representation in the actual event. Even the Bible never mentions the possibility of female homosexuality explicitly.

  • @Dexter01992
    @Dexter01992 Před 2 dny +159

    "Pride month is for everyone."
    I have a site who once did an event in pride month where they invited people to draw something showing pride for their gender with the flag representing them. All genders.
    ...Except Heterosexuality. That was not allowed to be "proud" of. If you did something with such "flag", you were deemed a homophobe.

    • @emarskineel
      @emarskineel Před 2 dny +11

      I hope one day your sexuality isn't a point of pride one way or the other

    • @Dexter01992
      @Dexter01992 Před dnem +35

      @@emarskineel In general I don't care about it. The problem is when they tell you "everyone is celebrated, except *you."* At this point it starts feeling like done in spite.

    • @ArchSchizo
      @ArchSchizo Před dnem +18

      @@emarskineel No one should feel pride over sexuality. Hetero and otherwise, it's not a choice. It's not everyone's business. I don't want to teach 5 year old children about it, and I'm sick of seeing it interrupt movies that aren't ABOUT it. Being sex-obsessed is a bad thing, and I would rather we treat non-heteros equally so it can become a mundane part of life, like being irish or left-handed. Being persecuted doesn't make ME owe you, because I never engaged in it, and straight-savior complex is undoing progress.

    • @GerardoSantana
      @GerardoSantana Před dnem +3

      I saw something like that. a teacher gave colorful stuff if you picked something lgbt. if you picked straight or something not gay you got something plain and boring.

    • @gavinriley5232
      @gavinriley5232 Před dnem +12

      @@emarskineel
      No. Heterosexuality should be a point of pride.
      Without us the human race ceases to exist.

  • @sliftylovesyou
    @sliftylovesyou Před 2 dny +186

    In Germany, some conservatives have co-opted pride month by starting their own month, "Stolzmonat" (Pride month, translated into German). It celebrates pride for Germany, being German, German history, German traditions & patriotism. The flag of the month is a Rainbow flag, shaded to the 3 colours of the German flag.

    • @davewhite756
      @davewhite756 Před 2 dny +17

      That's awesome

    • @Tarimoth
      @Tarimoth Před dnem +18

      Proud Germans round 3: Extreme Bogaloo

    • @blizzi8428
      @blizzi8428 Před dnem

      Not really. Just populists preying on people who are feeling dissatisfied. ​@@davewhite756

    • @GerardoSantana
      @GerardoSantana Před dnem +5

      based

    • @kristenskousen1317
      @kristenskousen1317 Před dnem +15

      That's awesome. I do want Germans to realize it's okay to love their country.

  • @LEO19495
    @LEO19495 Před 7 dny +346

    I am a gay who hates pridemonth
    It just dehumanises us and just treats us like a pokemon

    • @LEO19495
      @LEO19495 Před 7 dny +19

      Id also say im a common ground

    • @LEO19495
      @LEO19495 Před 7 dny +35

      I wish it was only the rainbow
      Rainbow=everyone

    • @billTO
      @billTO Před 7 dny +2

      And consumers.

    • @LEO19495
      @LEO19495 Před 7 dny +6

      Wish people would not care

    • @sameash3153
      @sameash3153 Před 7 dny +1

      Why are you gay?

  • @krunkle5136
    @krunkle5136 Před 7 dny +355

    National flags are the most legitimate and have the greatest ability to unify a people.
    The pride flag has a great ability to divide society.

    • @konstantinos-iliasstrempas4594
      @konstantinos-iliasstrempas4594 Před 7 dny +31

      preach only nation flags should exist

    • @scottsinger7110
      @scottsinger7110 Před 7 dny +3

      Anti-flag

    • @Necroman98
      @Necroman98 Před 6 dny +12

      @@krunkle5136 It takes two to tango. It doesn't have to divide society but society lets it. In all honesty society should be divided but peacefully, I say we start a Confederacy of independent settlements really. I don't want to live without Pride you don't want to live around it we shouldn't be under the same government but it shouldn't come to blood.

    • @Matazuma
      @Matazuma Před 6 dny

      National flags divide people, we should abolish them and come together as one world

    • @Videogeek95
      @Videogeek95 Před 6 dny

      @@Necroman98 You don't want me praying in schools and teaching kids how to pray... But I can't tell you to keep a flag of random colored stripes out of the class room...
      In fact if a school says MY SON is REALLY a GIRL... The SCHOOL can have CPS take my child away from me...
      And you support this... But Louisiana is destroying the constitution by demanding the 10 commandments in class rooms...

  • @lightninghawk1014
    @lightninghawk1014 Před 2 dny +101

    As Shortfatotaku said, the changing of the Pride flag is like having a country be conquered by another nation. It’s original meaning is pushed further and further out until it’ll get to a point where it’s no longer even recognizable.

  • @PrettyQuicky
    @PrettyQuicky Před 7 dny +332

    this feels like zoom call lecture

  • @lboston4660
    @lboston4660 Před 3 dny +64

    Can confirm 1990's Christmas was peak Christmas.

  • @SSJKamui
    @SSJKamui Před 6 dny +185

    I am autistic and there is a leftist movement called autistic pride as well.
    My first reaction was: "you tell me I should be proud of my brain disorder. WHAT???"😂

    • @memph7610
      @memph7610 Před 6 dny +37

      I can see pride in overcoming the struggles that come with the disorder, but not in the disorder itself, that doesn't make much sense.

    • @Necroman98
      @Necroman98 Před 4 dny

      @@SSJKamui Pride stand for Personal Rights in defense in education. Do you think you as neurodivergent have a right to control your own destiny? Or do you think your inferior for some reason and need guidance from neurotypicals? I question the idea that high functioning aut is a disorder, I don't think it is it's just a different order.

    • @SSJKamui
      @SSJKamui Před 4 dny +5

      @@memph7610 i agree

    • @ressljs
      @ressljs Před 3 dny

      I see people, and I hate to say this, but almost exclusively women, proudly proclaim every neurodivergency they think they have on social media. They treat them like Pokemon, got to catch 'em all! And being that I know some of these people well, I believe they suffer from nothing more than maybe normal levels of social anxiety. It's attention seeking and looking for validation for no good reason. The screwed up fallout is they take pride in this, and then turn to people who have real issues and tell them to do the same. Fortunately, I'm not autistic, clinically depressed, etc. But if I were, I think I'd find their behavior very insulting.

    • @treasurehunter3369
      @treasurehunter3369 Před 3 dny +15

      You should ABSOLUTELY be proud of your attitude about it though rock on

  • @lloydgush
    @lloydgush Před 7 dny +162

    Pride will die also because parades will die.

    • @neeedGems
      @neeedGems Před dnem +5

      Great point. I can't remember the last non-pride parade I attended or even knew was happening. It's not really much of a 'thing' outside of Thanksgiving and Christmas.

  • @TheDolphinTuna
    @TheDolphinTuna Před 3 dny +82

    The changes to the pride flag always puzzled me. I thought the symbology of the rainbow- a spectrum of colours- was meant to represent a generalized diversity. The addition of the black/brown stripes, and eventually the rest, was a bizzare statement. I imagine that it was enough for a few activists to simply assert that the original flag wasn’t inclusive of X minority group, and progressives had no choice but to relent as they have no defence against that type of rhetoric.

    • @Crosshair84
      @Crosshair84 Před 2 dny

      The reason is simple, scientific research figured out 15+ years ago that homosexuality is a learned behavior. Nobody is "born gay". This is fatal to the LGBT religion. The entire movement is based on a lie.
      Rather than abandoning the religion, they doubled down and blindly assert that choosing to engage in homosexuality is the same as being born black. It's crude and ham fisted.

    • @Tounushi
      @Tounushi Před 2 dny +17

      the Progressive/Imperial pride flag has never been about inclusion by specification. It's been about self-aggrandizement, that oneself is somehow specially standing out in a crowd of supposed equals.
      "I've been pointed out in particular, therefore I am special!" When things become normalized, those who understand being previously abnormal don't see themselves as special anymore, so they resort to finding new ways of standing out. It's a very infantile call for attention.

    • @terminator572
      @terminator572 Před dnem +5

      @@Tounushi This also ties in, at least in my perspective. to the astronomical rise in transgender-identifying people these days. Its no longer just an incredibly rare medical condition, its not just a fetish, its "how am I supposed to be special anymore if being gay/lesbian/bisexual doesn't cut it anymore? How can I stand out?" so they simply declare themselves trans and go through all these harrowing bodily modifications to be special again. Its a neverending cycle of trying to reach the apotheosis of special, to tbe the one Little Star that twinkles like no other.

    • @foxboy6145
      @foxboy6145 Před 20 hodinami +1

      @terminator572
      Ironically, the more they try, the LESS special they become. And with each attempt to become "special", they get progressively more unhinged and obnoxious, which makes people's distaste for them worse.

  • @fancyelk2373
    @fancyelk2373 Před dnem +59

    As a gay guy myself I can’t wait until all this stuff vanishes. All I want is to be left alone to live my life. I don’t need holidays or anything based around something that is ultimately a tiny facet of who I am and shouldn’t matter outside the privacy of my home.

    • @shaunmac6851
      @shaunmac6851 Před dnem

      When all this stuff vanishes, it'll be because society has moved back to the historical norm of gay oppression. This liberal era we're currently in is the exception, not the rule.

    • @reececrook7021
      @reececrook7021 Před dnem +6

      strangely, a lot of young gay men with lots of internalised homophobia will go through a far right phase, that happened to a friend of mine, before he grow up a bit

    • @CommanderRedEXE
      @CommanderRedEXE Před dnem +20

      ​@@reececrook7021 Strangely a lot of hyper progressives claim this about anyone who doesn't 100% agree with everything they believe when it comes to sexuality as a whole.
      Homophobia has lost all real meaning as it's been thrown out so often as an insult. I know plenty of LGBT people sick of pride. Doesn't make them homophobic simply because they don't share your far left wing progressive views.

    • @fancyelk2373
      @fancyelk2373 Před dnem

      @@reececrook7021 I’m not far right, nor am I far left. This “internalized homophobia” thing is just a buzzword used to invalidate people who don’t all join the hive mind, similar to calling black people coons or uncle toms when they don’t bow down to the left wing. It’s disgusting and I’m sick of being told that if I don’t suck up to the narrative I must hate myself.

    • @nah4989
      @nah4989 Před dnem +4

      That's not internalized homophobia lol. I think you'd be surprised that most gay men are actually pretty normal and nuanced, not a monolith. They like to keep their sexual life private. I'm still closeted besides a couple friends knowing, because I find the whole pride thing extremely annoying.

  • @malicant123
    @malicant123 Před 6 dny +189

    I remember the first time that I saw a pride parade. It was in Rome in about 2004, and I was 17 or 18. I instinctively felt revulsion, and the feeling has never left me.

    • @edwin5145
      @edwin5145 Před 4 dny +3

      Why? Why do you care?

    • @agingerbeard
      @agingerbeard Před 4 dny

      Trust me, as a gay man who has fought for rights for over 30 years, what pride has become disgusts me, and many many others. It's a fetish celebration now, and what happened to men's mental health awareness month? Pride has been co-opted by activists with a political agenda, and no interest in actually helping anyone but themselves in gaining power over others.

    • @agingerbeard
      @agingerbeard Před 4 dny +62

      ​@@edwin5145because it's not about rights, pride is a political cudgel now, not the movement we started decades ago to push for rights. I'm gay, and pride disgusts me.

    • @edwin5145
      @edwin5145 Před 4 dny +1

      @@agingerbeard I don't get why it being political means it's disgusting. But very well you're free to not like it

    • @agingerbeard
      @agingerbeard Před 4 dny

      @@edwin5145 it's the blatant fetish worship and the use of identities as cudgels that is disgusting.

  • @drkruggles5961
    @drkruggles5961 Před dnem +13

    I honestly think that if Pride Month was shortened to a day or even a week, it wouldn't get half the hate it does. It has the same energy as a teenage girl having a "birthday month": self-important, cringey, and alienating to everyone who doesn't bend the knee.

    • @nordgeit
      @nordgeit Před 56 minutami

      What makes me the angriest about pride month is that it's *MY* birthday month. I am so gracious as to accept only a single day to celebrate the very emergence from my mother's womb unto the world, one piddly, tiny, little day for my entire being! And I don't even get it all to myself as other people got born that very day! And yet these selfish, egotistical *maniacs* demand and entire *month!?* For something as silly as a singular aspect of them? Is it the only aspect they have to them!? If so, that's sad.

  • @brianmeans5965
    @brianmeans5965 Před dnem +13

    I like how holidays can be split between family get together (loose definition of family), excuse to cook, day off from government job, and howdy i exist. So many progressive holidays can't get past the exist part.

  • @otakubullfrog1665
    @otakubullfrog1665 Před 7 dny +55

    The way to scale down a celebration that runs too long is to create a holiday within the holiday and gradually shift the focus towards that. For example, they could have started calling the first Saturday of Pride Month something like Rainbow Day and decreed that you were supposed to have a parade on that day in particular for reasons. They wouldn't even need to forbid people from having parades on other days because most people would only hold or attend one purely due to logistics. They could have then subtlety started speaking of it as the first week of June rather than the first week of Pride Month (which would be perfectly correct) and thus phase out the rest of the month.

    • @pinheadious17
      @pinheadious17 Před 7 dny +7

      That’s a smart way to do it.

    • @Gorboduc
      @Gorboduc Před 2 dny +3

      ☝️ This guy contains.

    • @davidmays8974
      @davidmays8974 Před 20 hodinami +1

      All of that work for a non-issue.

    • @pinheadious17
      @pinheadious17 Před 17 hodinami

      @@davidmays8974 maybe, but it’s not that fact that Pride shouldn’t be celebrated… well, the non sinful version. I wouldn’t celebrate the 7 sins. But Pride as we know should be on a more moderate scale of celebration. Quality over quantity, right?

  • @orboakin8074
    @orboakin8074 Před 4 dny +59

    22:30 As a Nigerian Catholic, I am so glad you pointed this out. Christianity is one of the few religions that is about ethics rather than ethnicity or some isolated trait. That's why it spread and had so much appeal. Even my grandfather who was raised a pagan and was set to inherit the ancestral shrine, embraced Christianity and was even supported by his pagan family.

  • @leoartolson4658
    @leoartolson4658 Před 7 dny +48

    I noticed that not a lot of people in my area celebrated pride month this year. There weren’t any big events in my town and it was pretty much just the corporations and stores shilling the pride stuff. I feel like due to all of the things America has gone through over the past 4 years, people in my country are just sick of that kind of stuff, which as a bisexual person I feel like should be concerning me but it’s surprisingly not. Probably because I was never really interested in pride month anyways. I always saw it as unpatriotic and a means to paint same sex attracted and bisexual people in a negative light.

    • @gentronseven
      @gentronseven Před dnem

      Pride month and shoving degeneracy down people's throats does breed resentment towards it. Not all gay people are degenerates but that's what the month is about.

    • @neeedGems
      @neeedGems Před dnem

      It's because (in actuality) in 2024 your sexuality is very unimportant to 95% of the population.

  • @Stevie2049
    @Stevie2049 Před 4 dny +42

    What am I even supposed to do as a parade attendee? Stand up and clap ad nauseam?

    • @lizd2943
      @lizd2943 Před 4 dny +6

      Same thing you do at any parade. Just have a good time.

    • @JoesGuy
      @JoesGuy Před 2 dny +10

      @@lizd2943 ... So basically stand up and clap ad nauseam.

    • @lizd2943
      @lizd2943 Před 2 dny +4

      @@JoesGuy If that's what you do at the Saint Patrick's Day Parade or a 4th of July parade or any other parade, you do you.

    • @JoesGuy
      @JoesGuy Před 2 dny +11

      @@lizd2943 At least we're fully clothed in front of children.

    • @lizd2943
      @lizd2943 Před 2 dny +4

      @@JoesGuy Well... good on you for that?

  • @SaskatoonMonsoon
    @SaskatoonMonsoon Před dnem +13

    Religious celebration coupled with feasting and moderate drinking is not really a weird compromise for anyone but puritans and muslims; for most of the rest of Christianity it was standard. The day a Saint is commemorated on can be known as their "Feast Day".

  • @nlb137
    @nlb137 Před dnem +8

    The problem with the "chevron'd" pride flag is that the rainbow was supposed to represent everyone (as in "all the colors of the rainbow") but identitarians need to be *more special* and thus need a specific part of the flag for themselves. It's also why all the sub-flags (the bi flag, the trans flag, etc.) are stupid.

  • @JuleZz__z
    @JuleZz__z Před 5 dny +71

    The 90s had alot of gay propaganda just done really subtlety, the Simpsons had an episode where a gay guy saves the day & homer tells Bart it's ok if he's gay, it's not new its just their propaganda now has gone to shit, they forgot how to do their own messaging

    • @FablesTold
      @FablesTold Před dnem +10

      It's like when they bring up "Star Trek was always progressive!" Yes, but it also used to be well written. When your message is crap, and your story is crap, and the acting is crap, no one is gonna want to consume it.

    • @gentronseven
      @gentronseven Před dnem

      The difference between now and the 90s is that the majority of people can tolerate gays, as long as they keep their clothes on at their parade and don't touch kids I can tolerate them just like anyone else (if these two things were part of other ideologies I wouldn't tolerate them either). You can't force me to do more than tolerate your ideology, though, I will never like you or be prideful of your left-wing religion

    • @shaunmac6851
      @shaunmac6851 Před dnem +6

      It's not propaganda to occasionally show a gay person living a normal life.

    • @ghostface5559
      @ghostface5559 Před dnem +1

      it was subtle but the people were not. If you're american most of the slurs for gays originated in the 90's.

    • @nah4989
      @nah4989 Před dnem +3

      @@shaunmac6851 lmao facts.

  • @naciremasti
    @naciremasti Před 7 dny +127

    I'm 38, and growing up I never once heard LGBTQ mentioned. Not once. I did hear LGB.

    • @happygofishing
      @happygofishing Před 7 dny +31

      I'm 20, I had never heard the acronym lgbt until around 2017.

    • @etasjo
      @etasjo Před 7 dny +4

      ignorance is bliss

    • @Michael-Archonaeus
      @Michael-Archonaeus Před 7 dny +37

      First I heard of this was LGBT, and that was like 10 years ago probably.
      Until 10 years ago gay people were just called gay or queer, although queer was considered a slur, and most people seemed to agree that it's ok to be gay.
      Other than that, growing up I saw a lot of homophobia, but it was diminishing day by day. Now I hear the same homophobia ressurrected by young people, and the same slurs coming back, so it almost seems like the excessive focus on the alphabet club has had a negative effect on society, like we are going backwards now.

    • @fren111
      @fren111 Před 7 dny +20

      Yeah, I'm old enough to remember when gay was about gay people, rather than celebrating the degeneration of society

    • @etasjo
      @etasjo Před 7 dny +2

      @@fren111 sure you are frogman

  • @chewcab8008
    @chewcab8008 Před 7 dny +92

    The goal is to divide, this is the entire point of all these events. Divide and conquer.

    • @rileymoore7025
      @rileymoore7025 Před 2 dny +5

      ????

    • @ArchSchizo
      @ArchSchizo Před dnem

      @@rileymoore7025 Treating gay people like normal, mundane, equal human beings would be optimal, but instead they are constantly "other-ed" and treated like poor widdle guys who can't do anything on their own, and require straight people to harass other straight people about it. It's another way of getting people angry on purpose while drowning out real efforts for progress. Everyone wants to be a rebel with a good cause, but now it's bullies who never get called out by an entire political wing.

    • @gentronseven
      @gentronseven Před dnem

      That's exactly what it is, meanwhile a small number of elites have captured the entire cultural and economic system while regular people were divided. Look at the percentage of S&P companies owned 50%+ by funds like vanguard, it's all of them. They control the political system because they control the money. They're nameless and faceless. Meanwhile, we're distracted by gay nonsense.

    • @Mate_Antal_Zoltan
      @Mate_Antal_Zoltan Před dnem

      @@rileymoore7025 easier to brainwash the masses if they're too busy squabbling amongst themselves to see the bigger picture

    • @neeedGems
      @neeedGems Před dnem +1

      @@rileymoore7025 What don't you understand.

  • @AJSTITAN14
    @AJSTITAN14 Před 2 dny +13

    Ha in the Orthodox church we have a 40 day period of purification before we meet Christ on Christmas. But we are fasting and praying these days. Definitely not giving gifts and having a dance. But I bring it up to make the point that this period of asceticism intensifies the celebration on the day of nativity and the week following.

  • @apollonphoebus7549
    @apollonphoebus7549 Před 7 dny +50

    Keep cooking brother

  • @AM-kl8gj
    @AM-kl8gj Před 7 dny +13

    I am from Finland, love the midsummer. Here it's celebrated on the longest day of the year, since Finland is so far in the north summers tend to be bright around the clock. The celebration is less of circling around a pile of burning branches, although that is done sometimes too but more of like how Americans celebrate 4th of July, that but just less American. Grilling, drinking and other summer activities with all the family. I love it.

    • @Aim54Delta
      @Aim54Delta Před 2 dny

      Is it related to the Slavic/Croatian tradition of "Ivanje" - St. John's Eve?

    • @keeperofthedomus7654
      @keeperofthedomus7654 Před dnem +1

      @@Aim54Deltayes! And Sweden and Norway celebrate St John's too.

  • @MatameVideos
    @MatameVideos Před 21 hodinou +4

    The Rainbow flag always meant diversity, but that wasn't enough.

  • @purpledevilr7463
    @purpledevilr7463 Před 7 dny +55

    A lot of stuff gives me dread. Especially the stuff I agree with.
    But your videos let me interact with this issues in a way that doesn’t make me fear for the future.
    So thank you.

  • @zwatwashdc
    @zwatwashdc Před 2 dny +4

    I am glad someone is talking about this. I noticed a few years ago that none of our secular holidays had any meaning for me. I can’t muster up any interest in any of them because they are literally meaningless to me.

  • @johncalabro8710
    @johncalabro8710 Před 7 dny +128

    June is my birthday. I hate that the month of my birth is during the Pride Month. Pride is a Sin in the Bible lol they celebrate 2 sins in one month

    • @Vyx__
      @Vyx__ Před 7 dny +47

      your birthday lasts a whole month??? my condolences to your mom dude

    • @HeortirtheWoodwarden
      @HeortirtheWoodwarden Před 7 dny +6

      Mine was yesterday, July 1st. I don't understand what that symbolizes exactly.

    • @billTO
      @billTO Před 7 dny +6

      ​@@HeortirtheWoodwarden Canada's birthday in 1867.

    • @alsatusmd1A13
      @alsatusmd1A13 Před 7 dny +16

      The “pride” Pride Month is about is primarily the negative, hubristic pride born of dominance. This is also the pride that is meant by the sin of pride. It is a sin because one is proud to the point of erroneously feeling that one has a right to demand certain attitudes and behaviors from other people. The main criticized demand is for sexual lesbianism to be treated independently of projections of male heterosexuality.

    • @teyrncousland7152
      @teyrncousland7152 Před 7 dny +5

      @@Vyx__LMAO. Imagine getting birthday gifts each day for an entire month 😂.

  • @Andi.f.25
    @Andi.f.25 Před dnem +8

    Im from Austria, we celebrate St Nicholas (basically santa claus) on Dec 6th and the birth of jesus on Dec 24th. So we're just doing both :P
    St Nicholas brings only little things like a few chocolates, nuts, tangerines, dried fruit and the "big" presents get exchanged on Christmas

    • @_Admin_01.
      @_Admin_01. Před dnem +1

      My mother is German, we do the same thing here in the US.

  • @Burns_RED
    @Burns_RED Před 7 dny +77

    I simply cannot wait 😢

    • @ChooChooMcBoogie64
      @ChooChooMcBoogie64 Před 7 dny +19

      It's already starting
      This year was less active for pride month

    • @Burns_RED
      @Burns_RED Před 7 dny +14

      @@ChooChooMcBoogie64 I'd actually say it started last year. So many companies were terrified of being Bud Light'd themselves 😂

    • @ChooChooMcBoogie64
      @ChooChooMcBoogie64 Před 7 dny +8

      ​@Burns_RED yeah
      Change takes a while, but we're starting to see change
      3 years from now, things will look a lot different

    • @Necroman98
      @Necroman98 Před 7 dny +3

      Hopefully the LGBTQ community won't be harmed regardless.

    • @Burns_RED
      @Burns_RED Před 7 dny +9

      @@Necroman98 I don't care either way about that. At. All.

  • @SSJKamui
    @SSJKamui Před 6 dny +8

    Here in germany, until several years, people did not talk about pride month. There was the christopher street day but the pride month appearing is a rather recent thing

  • @ThePdeHav
    @ThePdeHav Před 23 hodinami +3

    Dude if a non-Muslim rocked up to Eid at the end of Ramadan he would be excluded.

  • @brendanwiley253
    @brendanwiley253 Před 7 dny +31

    I live in the recently safe red state of Ohio and can't remember seeing a single pride thing after the first week of June this year

    • @creditcrazy597
      @creditcrazy597 Před 2 dny +4

      I live in a state as blue as Vermont and the only pride anything I could find is on homes of people who obses over politics lol

    • @gentronseven
      @gentronseven Před dnem

      It's partly responsible for making and keeping Ohio red so thank you queen folks for the W.

  • @brianc9374
    @brianc9374 Před 3 dny +20

    The 90s were pretty accepting of gays on a social level. The whole ostracized was earlier. Mind you the rural south would be different than the west coast, but generally in the US it was pretty accepting....at least on a social level.

    • @futurelink8
      @futurelink8 Před dnem +7

      I'm from the suburban south, ba k in the 90s it was more of a "don't ask don't tell" we just didn't talk about sexuality, it was ok, but keep it private.

  • @OrwellsHousecat
    @OrwellsHousecat Před 7 dny +23

    Wokeness 1.0 Feminism.
    Wokeness 2.0 Intersectional Feminism

    • @KINGCABA-if4nk
      @KINGCABA-if4nk Před 6 dny +2

      Next in 200 years it will be interspecies with aliens and Robots.

    • @OrwellsHousecat
      @OrwellsHousecat Před 6 dny +4

      @@KINGCABA-if4nk that's already covered in the "academic" field in Intersectional Feminism.
      Plus lots of wmn do bad things with their pet dogs.

    • @kathrineici9811
      @kathrineici9811 Před dnem

      Feminism is just marxism with the oppressors and oppressed as the sexes rather than business owners and workers

  • @katherinebare8212
    @katherinebare8212 Před 2 dny +5

    You're talking like Christmas was not historically celebrated with food, drink, and revelry. In fact this back and forth between Christmas as religious ritual vs. a fun holiday has happened before- the Puritans, for example, rejected the drunkenness and partying associated with Christmas in mainstream English society and therefore didn't celebrate Christmas at all.

    • @darkbeastzero
      @darkbeastzero Před dnem +1

      or the Jehovah's Witnesses for a more recent example. they absolutely hate christimas

  • @vidarkristiansen8989
    @vidarkristiansen8989 Před dnem +2

    The thing you say about parents always have to look after the kids at around the 32nd minute mark was not always the case. When I grew up as a kid (born 1968 in Norway) they would just tell us to go outside and play with our friends. And that was what we did, for hours without adult supervision.

  • @AgentM3tallion
    @AgentM3tallion Před 7 dny +18

    Wow another vidya! Hot damned man! Keep em coming!

  • @AreteG
    @AreteG Před 7 dny +7

    Did you fire your editor?

  • @vyor8837
    @vyor8837 Před dnem +3

    Gift giving was always part of Christmas

  • @JJSquirtle
    @JJSquirtle Před 20 hodinami +2

    There's also a sort of offense with making a holiday a month long. How many times have you heard "Why do we celebrate the LGBTQ2+ community for a whole month, but the soldiers who laid their lives on the battlefield to secure the peace needed for this movement to even exist get a day and a minute of silence?"

  • @CMDRScotty
    @CMDRScotty Před dnem +2

    In America, it used to be the start of Summer Vacation.

  • @Mamapuchas3000
    @Mamapuchas3000 Před 2 dny +3

    i refuse to let them call it gayday because that would lowkey canonize the gayday 2 memes coming from payday 2 and im not sure how funny that would be

  • @paulrobert3325
    @paulrobert3325 Před 7 dny +27

    Need a HEXAGON month!

  • @emilv.3693
    @emilv.3693 Před 2 dny +2

    The mascot of Christmas is St. Nicholas

  • @divingdave2945
    @divingdave2945 Před 4 hodinami +2

    I think the tipping point, where the common ground went below 50% was the first half of 2016. That's where the election campaign in the US and the migrant crisis in Western Europe became serious. That's when a lot changed all over the west. Then early 21 was another tipping point where the virus thingy caused significant disagreement and the US had their little capitol party.

  • @Michael-Archonaeus
    @Michael-Archonaeus Před 7 dny +26

    I agree that motivation diminishes with time, but I think you have a blind spot.
    The same process that you described, where the Leftist culturally progressive types co-opted Christmas, and made it less Christian, can be done in reverse.
    The Right can be culturally progressive too. What if the religious Right co-opted Pride month, and made it less gay?
    I've heard some people celebrate Pride month as straight month. The Rainbow is a universal symbol that no one has exclusive rights to, unicorns literally came from the Bible, so why wouldn't Pride month stick around, and simply be co-opted and changed by culturally progressive Right-wingers?

    • @pinheadious17
      @pinheadious17 Před 7 dny +3

      Wdym unicorns?

    • @Michael-Archonaeus
      @Michael-Archonaeus Před 7 dny +5

      @@pinheadious17 You know, the Pride paraphernalia, rainbows, glitter, unicorns.
      Unicorns as we know them are a culturally Christian thing that originates in medieval superstitions based on the Bible.
      People actually used to believe that these mythical unicorns existed.
      So it's funny that these have now been co-opted by the same people who are the most opposed to medieval Christian superstitions.

    • @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
      @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts Před 7 dny +10

      ​@@Michael-ArchonaeusUnicorns do exist, we call them Rhinos now.

    • @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts
      @EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts Před 7 dny +7

      The rainbow is God's promise that he will not destroy the world again with a flood. I plan to design a piece of artwork on that theme.

    • @Michael-Archonaeus
      @Michael-Archonaeus Před 7 dny

      @@EcclesiastesLiker-py5ts You are not listening.

  • @saramarques7986
    @saramarques7986 Před 7 dny +11

    Love to listen to you. My husband and I we've been silent followers for some years. Keep up the good videos as long as you can and want to, of course!
    Much love from Portugal 🤗

  • @kodiak8205
    @kodiak8205 Před 7 dny +5

    We in Bosnia have a saying
    "Nije svaki dan Bajram"
    Not every day is Eid
    It has multiple meanings
    Main one being that pleasure is not for every single day
    Usualy said to someone that wants too much of a thing
    And I see that fits in the lenght lart that you have discussed
    If you have too much of something you aren't going to enjoy it it would just be bland and loose it's signifance
    I actually do that for food and eat what I like the most just sometimes
    One type of cheese I like
    I just slice myswlf a piece of it just sometimes and that one piece feels so good.
    Anyways, another amazing production as always and you have convinced this rural Bosnian to join your patreon

  • @dragonlizard7
    @dragonlizard7 Před 7 dny +5

    Babe wake up! New Alex Hexagon vid just dropped

  • @Dyotar0
    @Dyotar0 Před 7 dny +11

    This video deserves millions of views.
    Keep the hustle king

    • @LadySloth
      @LadySloth Před 6 dny

      Btw Berserk is about a gay romance ending in tragedy. Its very progressive in its themes.

    • @Dyotar0
      @Dyotar0 Před 6 dny +2

      @@LadySloth all you said is false

  • @Commentary173
    @Commentary173 Před 7 dny +96

    As a Christian, it is so tiring to see people glorify the sin of Sodom.

    • @Will-eq6vy
      @Will-eq6vy Před 7 dny +16

      As a queer guy and on behalf of the community, we sincerely apologise for not giving a single F.
      Not even one.

    • @tuningtunetuningtuningfunny
      @tuningtunetuningtuningfunny Před 7 dny +42

      You give an inch and they take a mile.

    • @matthiasthulman4058
      @matthiasthulman4058 Před 7 dny +37

      ​@@Will-eq6vyyou will, in time.

    • @konstantinos-iliasstrempas4594
      @konstantinos-iliasstrempas4594 Před 7 dny

      @@Will-eq6vy i miss the times when your king was beeing hunted down and i cant wait when people have enought of your sh''it you are a minority act like it and be happy that we allow you to exist

    • @owen5640
      @owen5640 Před 7 dny +37

      ​@@Will-eq6vy The lack of decency in your "community" will be it's downfall. Now that the debauchery has been exposed to the average person, the pendulum is swinging back.

  • @Gares.
    @Gares. Před 23 hodinami +1

    This was a masterpiece! I am extremely glad I ran into your channel!

  • @aerialpunk
    @aerialpunk Před 22 hodinami +2

    I always like to call the Progress Pride flag the "everyone but straight white people flag" lol. Very interesting video and well said.

  • @gelmibson883
    @gelmibson883 Před 7 dny +7

    The better "ordinary things" ! Thanks!

  • @waffleswafflson3076
    @waffleswafflson3076 Před dnem +3

    Its been 30 years what do you mean "Wont last"

  • @keeperofthedomus7654
    @keeperofthedomus7654 Před dnem +1

    An aside about Easter- all of those seemingly unrelated aspects of the holiday like chicks, bunnies, and baskets filled with chocolate eggs had their origins in Christian symbolism for Easter. The chick represents new life, the rabbit represents eternal life (because they keep reproducing forever and ever), and eggs are the seemingly lifeless object that life emerges from like Christ's tomb. In many countries baskets full of foods that were not allowed to be eaten during Lent were blessed at church on Easter. No need to explain the chocolate. We like it so much that we added that to every holiday 😅😂.
    Let me know if there's something I forgot!

  • @austincooper7282
    @austincooper7282 Před dnem +1

    Everything here essentially boils down to a religion based on positive values and a religion based on cynicism and greivance.

  • @finn6492
    @finn6492 Před 7 dny +3

    wow. got an ad during the video for kfc's Christmas in july. it had a pride flag in the background.

  • @Buugipopuu
    @Buugipopuu Před 6 dny +3

    The progessive concept of the "allyship" has parallels in Islam: Dhimmitude.

  • @mrorigen
    @mrorigen Před 2 dny

    Thank you for this Alex. This is an amazing video and i appreciate the time you put into this. Looking forward to more

  • @00Boogie
    @00Boogie Před 11 hodinami +1

    This all lays out why in the next World War we're never gonna have the Pride Month Truce.

  • @MrCatTheII
    @MrCatTheII Před 7 dny +3

    I like the unpleasant gradient as a background. Really scary thing for graphic designers.

  • @juliangrant9718
    @juliangrant9718 Před 7 dny +4

    The 2000s is one of the most pivotal moments for the Right. 9/11 did a lot to change that. It's an interesting evolution. The 90s Right was the annoying bible thumping Right. It's the Right that had nothing to do in times of peace. Then 9/11 happens and turns them into the patriotic Right. Which was accepted since it did provide a moment where Left and Right could come together. Until 2003 and the invasion of Iraq then the schism reached new heights. It was all about support for the military community since it effected mostly conservative families who served. There were definitely Liberals who had never had their beliefs challenged until 9/11 causing them to make a code switch which definitely caused the Right to move a little left. After years of "support our troops" in the ME, the patriotic Right lost faith in the war. After years of being in the era of terror, after years of criticising Islam and being labelled a racist for those opinions, it turned the patriotic Right into the Constitutional Right. Their main concerns turned focus on Freedom of Speech and society's ability to arm themselves in case a major attack were to happen. That shaped an entire generation of conservatives. Deep down we all knew we were being lied to. The whole "support our troops" was complete manipulation. Whoever left who wasn't a neocon became a more "Libertarian" Right. More anti war Right than anything. This left the Right open to the mostly Left wing skeptic communities challenging far left nonsense. That's when the far Left pushed normal people to the Right thus becoming the online Right we know today. Maybe a few years into the culture war post Gamer Gate did we see these types of conservatives on the online Right start joining the fight. The constant minor shifts Left has been remarkably organic on the Right. And it is happening as a direct response to Progressive Marxism. If we were to analyse us under a microscope, it would appear that two warring factions have teamed up to take down a bigger threat. It may be the answer to why Right and Left evolved this way making the Right seem more Left but in reality, we've just combined for survival.

  • @joshuakanapkey6570
    @joshuakanapkey6570 Před 23 hodinami +1

    What an excellent breakdown! Great information put into digestible bites. Subbed!

  • @retroman3252
    @retroman3252 Před 6 dny +1

    Nice to hear from you again Hexagon, didn't know you had another channel until now.
    Early 2k was indeed a different time. It was however the 1st time a depression shock came about and everything got edgy. So it made sense eventually alternate lifestyles would be sought.

  • @FrenchyMcToast
    @FrenchyMcToast Před dnem +14

    "What if Christmas was a month.". Boy have I got a surprise for you.

    • @starman4840
      @starman4840 Před dnem

      Outside the scope of corporate greed it’s not

    • @neeedGems
      @neeedGems Před dnem +1

      Yeah and you hear many people complain about how the stores are bringing out the xmas stuff too early. IMO the whole Mariah Carey "Xmas starts in November" thing is largely just a social media trend (doesnt reflect attitudes of most people), and also is just normal because Xmas is non-controversial to 95% of people who celebrate it to any degree. So it's not really criticized.

    • @ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle
      @ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle Před dnem +1

      So many people who have never heard of Advent

  • @inxendere
    @inxendere Před 7 dny +9

    Thank you for the zoom lecture, very cool!

  • @legozentrik
    @legozentrik Před 4 hodinami

    I just discovered this channel. Great explaining, great visualizing. I do enjoy! 😊

  • @jennywight9119
    @jennywight9119 Před dnem

    This was a really good video! Thank you for putting in the effort to make it ❤

  • @The_Punisher
    @The_Punisher Před 7 dny +4

    What happened to your videos?

  • @kkvv3699
    @kkvv3699 Před 2 dny +3

    They'll replace it with Envy month

  • @yoshidude64595
    @yoshidude64595 Před 3 dny +1

    This was a lovely presentation. Thank you for sharing with us!

  • @michaelgelunas1113
    @michaelgelunas1113 Před 2 dny +2

    Dude, I know that swallowing is a thing all humans do, but some of us have a thing where certain sounds make us unable to focus on anything but that when we hear it. Idk if you care, I know I wouldn't if I weren't one of those people, but the only reason I made it to the end was that I was listening while working & my phone wasn't in arms realch.

  • @harrys2912
    @harrys2912 Před 7 dny +4

    >tfw you have offspring and become purrents

  • @somedandy7694
    @somedandy7694 Před 3 dny +8

    I propose: Humility Month.

  • @ilikememes1402
    @ilikememes1402 Před 7 dny +2

    I love these videos. You remind me of the THUNK channel on CZcams. Both you and him are very underrated

  • @Ancient_4
    @Ancient_4 Před 22 hodinami +1

    One thing that I think is important to mention is the required solidarity of universalists vs identitarians. If you are gay then your actions as a person are constantly being monitored by the community and one mistake can lead to excommunication. For Christians/Muslims its not much of an issue because your actions are monitored by God/Allah. Identitarians require solidarity in order for their cause to be taken seriously, but universalists are allowed individuality because their beliefs are already always taken seriously.

  • @bluebark146
    @bluebark146 Před 2 dny +6

    23:12 "But if Pride Month happens in the west, let's say, and you don't celebrate it, that's not because you've been externally excluded. That's because you've internally excluded yourself from the event, if that makes sense, right. Like, no one is stopping you from celebrating Pride Month. YOU are, right. YOU'VE chosen to be a bigot. YOU'VE chosen not to celebrate Pride month. But you're always welcome to do so, right. Eveyone is always welcome to become an ally."
    In all seriousness though, what you've identified with progressive holidays (in this point) isn't necessarily wrong, so much as those things apply to all holidays, including the religious ones you mentioned. That's kinda how events work.

  • @tuningtunetuningtuningfunny

    P.S. I hope you get back to your old editing style. Can't have a Hexagon without all the six sides y,know.
    No hate though, just liked your old content is all. Even if it takes time to edit and create I don't mind waiting.

  • @moonblaze2713
    @moonblaze2713 Před 23 hodinami +1

    I've only history started the video but I've gotta say, you and I remember the '90s very differently.

  • @klingoncowboy4
    @klingoncowboy4 Před 23 hodinami +1

    I mean *insert sporting event here* can be a multi day, multi week, or even multi month holiday for some.

  • @joaovinicius3209
    @joaovinicius3209 Před 7 dny +4

    Alex, what's your religion?

    • @avivastudios2311
      @avivastudios2311 Před 7 dny

      He's an atheist who thinks that religion is valuable to society.

    • @MarvinPowell1
      @MarvinPowell1 Před 7 dny +2

      He said before he's not religious, but respects all that Christianity has done.

    • @kodiak8205
      @kodiak8205 Před 7 dny

      He is a muslim

    • @kodiak8205
      @kodiak8205 Před 7 dny

      He is a muslim

    • @kodiak8205
      @kodiak8205 Před 7 dny

      Islam
      I'm sorry if this comment is repeated mutliple times it didn't show up there
      Might be a glitch

  • @dantedycer
    @dantedycer Před 7 dny +3

    You're not perceptive enough on this Alex, Pride Month is a distraction from other things friend

  • @eisernerrundfunk1
    @eisernerrundfunk1 Před 22 hodinami +1

    Well done. A new perspective for me to look at it.

  • @AlefeLucas
    @AlefeLucas Před 9 hodinami +1

    0:20 June is not an empty month in the catholic world. We have celebrations that are a syncretism of old pagan midsummer celebrations. We call it St. John`s celebrations. The theme and aesthetics of the celebrations are related to farm and harverst.

  • @flameofthewest6196
    @flameofthewest6196 Před dnem +5

    I can't wait until it's gone forever and rainbows can just be rainbows again, a beautiful gift from our Creator. ❤

  • @Asianthewock
    @Asianthewock Před 7 dny +13

    There is no pride in coming out of the closet or being different in some way there is only pride in meaningful things in life and being different doesn't matter

  • @SuperStig92
    @SuperStig92 Před dnem +1

    2014 is when I started picking up on this nonsense. A little event called “Gamer Gate” was the spark.

  • @benkai343434
    @benkai343434 Před dnem

    The twisting of St Nicholas of Myra into an idol of consumerism is arguably the saddest thing to happen to Christmas.

    • @yallwhatnow447
      @yallwhatnow447 Před dnem +1

      St. Nick merging with nordic folklore to create a uniquely american myth is the coolest thing to happen to Christmas.

  • @gabefarris7005
    @gabefarris7005 Před 3 dny +5

    The reason Christmas has been kept around is partially because it’s actually just the winter solstice celebration stolen from the pagans. Cosmic holidays are a little more cemented it seems

    • @SenorKrinkle925
      @SenorKrinkle925 Před 2 dny +3

      That’s a myth, the claim doesn’t hold up to scrutiny

    • @gabefarris7005
      @gabefarris7005 Před 2 dny +1

      @@SenorKrinkle925 you seriously think the winter solstice celebration didn’t come before Christmas the manufactured holiday? Get real.

    • @SenorKrinkle925
      @SenorKrinkle925 Před 2 dny +1

      @@gabefarris7005 the solstice isn’t on the 25th, this year it’s on the 21st.

    • @gabefarris7005
      @gabefarris7005 Před dnem +1

      @@SenorKrinkle925 I’m just gonna give it to you straight. You’re not very smart, I’m sorry. If you think it’s more likely that Christmas as we think of it came before Yule, you’re not really thinking much at all. I used to be a Christian and i still knew that the date of Jesus’ birth was speculative, even as a child. There’s a reason most people put up Christmas trees and other weird stuff, and it ain’t Jesus

    • @tj-co9go
      @tj-co9go Před dnem

      ​​@@SenorKrinkle925This is just explained by calendar drift. It used to be perfectly aligned but the earlier Christian calendar was misaligned by just a few days in a century. Now after the new reforms it should stay in its place for a much longwr time. The Russian have Orthodox Christmas later, because they never adopted the new corrected calendar

  • @edhahaz
    @edhahaz Před 7 dny +40

    They can't groom fast enough

  • @JoesGuy
    @JoesGuy Před 2 dny +1

    The duration is certainly the biggest detractor, from what I can see. This year's pride lost steam very quickly.

  • @chaotech8962
    @chaotech8962 Před 2 dny +1

    As someone who supports pride and all that stuff, I can very much see that two different calendars (and more, if you look at other communities) are becoming more prevalent, as well as how events such as pride month are structurally different from events such as christmas or thanksgiving. What I don't understand is the negativity about it. I won't give my thoughts on the whole video (TL;DR at the bottom), because I watched it looking for things to critique, and throwing shade at each other isn't fun for anyone, but I wanted to touch on the universal focus, especially the comparison between pride and a birthday.
    I'd like to present an alternate scenario, that being a funeral procession:
    Imagine a guy named Gary just died. Gary isn't someone that you knew very well, and most of what you know about him is because he was quite famous in your town, and interacted with a lot of people. Because Gary was famous, once the news broke that he died, some people asked when his funeral would be, coworkers, fellow church-goers, people who knew him personally, were closer to him than you were, but not really close friends. Gary's family decided that they didn't mind seeing these people at the funeral, so they told them when it would be, and word got around. So word comes around, and you hear that the funeral procession will be on july 15th. You aren't busy on that day, but are planning to do some things in town, so you might come across the procession. You also know that your friend Jack is a delivery driver, and will have to make some detours because of the procession, so you tell him about it, and he tells you that he already heard of it, and is going to work something out with his boss. So all is well, and on the day, you run into the procession. You talk to a few people who are further away from the hearse (gotta stay respectful), and they tell you about the parts of Gary's life they were involved in, but leave out some more embarrassing stories about him, that you're pretty sure both of you already know. They also tell you that they heard from the organisers that there might be some leftovers at the toast. So you think about following it to the end to participate in the toast, but since you didn't receive an invitation (makes sense), and Gary's family didn't officially announce that strangers could come, you feel like that would be inappropriate, and would make you look like a freeloader, so you leave the procession feeling a bit disappointed that you're missing out on the toast.
    Of course, in this analogy, i'm comparing the funeral procession to pride parades, even the LGBT movement as a whole. What worries me is that you are presenting this kind of event negatively. This is in fact an externally exclusive event, with a focused demographic : Gary's family didn't invite you, and the whole day is focused on his family and close friends, who get to set the narrative. Despite this, and I hope you'll agree, this is a perfectly acceptable event, and talking about it negatively would be quite hurtful to Gary's legacy: Making a fuss about not being invited makes you look like a freeloader, being annoyed that people are trated differently during the event makes you look self-important, and wanting people to talk about the worse parts of Gary's life makes it seem like you've got something against him and/or those close to him. Additionnally, while you could argue that the event is disruptive and distracting, but the point of the event is to have an effect on the surroundings, to show that Gary existed. You can argue that it could've been more private, that most people already know about Gary, but if the organisers felt that being visible was necessary, then they are in their rights to do so.
    So yeah TR;DR is that the video is interesting, but worryingly negative. My main complaint was that externally exclusive events aren't inherently bad.

    • @mysmartphonechannel
      @mysmartphonechannel Před dnem

      The narcissism is on the other side. If you start a public event, paid for by public money and taking up public streets (and companies) you should make sure that it's something that interests most people. The point is being gay shouldn't make Gary a celebrity (even though I'm pretty sure we don't do funeral months or parades for actual celebrities, for example when Stephen Hawking died someone wrote it in group chat and that was it) and nobody "needs to know" about Gary. Why Gary? Why not Joe Average from Random Street?
      If you feel like doing a special event do it from your own home from your own money and the only people that can be annoyed are your neighbours.

  • @BridgetWalker-xu8sw
    @BridgetWalker-xu8sw Před 6 dny +2

    I'd be perfectly fine with just a week or like any other normal holiDAY, just a day? Why does there need to be an entire month?

    • @thanatosdriver1938
      @thanatosdriver1938 Před 5 dny

      Demand and supply. It’s a month because participants want a month

    • @TwoBs
      @TwoBs Před 3 dny +1

      ⁠​⁠@@thanatosdriver1938 … so, okay, using that same train of thought: if there are participants of a group that gather for a straight pride month, TERF month, or even a white pride month, you’d be cool with that, yea? You’d give the same response to those that push against it insisting they shouldn’t get any days because it promotes X/Y/Z they don’t agree with, but you’d continue that same momentum with that train of thought, yes? I mean, it’s what the participants would obviously want. They’d want a whole month, so with that very logic, they should get that with zero pushback and no one questioning why it is that they should get a whole month …
      I mean “participants want it” and all… yet nada. That supply and demand idea suddenly goes out the door because the topics they surround are “icky”.
      Let’s be real and stop beating around the bush: it’s given a month because it’s the current political climate’s way of making people pretend their sexuality is somehow revolutionary. People only go along with it now and “participate” because it’s pushed down their throats so much by every form of media, work environment, and social circle.
      It used to just be one day … but now brands can get in on the action and push it all month long for that sweet, sweet consumerism and brand loyalty among those “participants” that gobble it right up and make themselves believe they’re doing something wonderfully worthy of “””pride”””.

    • @thanatosdriver1938
      @thanatosdriver1938 Před 3 dny

      @@TwoBs I wouldn't be 'cool' with any of those things, but assuming lawful behavior, I wouldn't advocate it's prevention. if you wished to gather for a month for such goals, I'd be powerless to stop it as I should be. I may subjectively oppose the goals of the protestors but I should not get a say on how long others can gather for things I don't like. If they can justify a month to the protestors and the protestors show up, what ought I be able to do about it in your eyes? Personally, I think I ought to counter protest lawfully, listen where needed and rationally object otherwise. I'll push back against the ideas, not the duration of advocacy of the ideas. Pride is a month because people and corporations want a month simple as. In some places it is a week or a day, in most places its a month because that's what people want.

    • @1leon000
      @1leon000 Před 2 dny

      How about the LGBT folks get June 28th (the day Stonewall began) as their special day? You still have a piece of June to use for your celebrations.

    • @Andi.f.25
      @Andi.f.25 Před dnem +1

      It's to take up space. To be dominant. Get attention. Kinda like prideful body language