The enclosure is literally the most important thing! Two 100 dollar subs in a perfectly designed enclosure will destroy a 1000 dollar sub in a shitty enclosure! You can not compare 2 completely different subs with the same enclosure!
You had that SPL meter set on the A weighted scale, which intentionally filters out lower frequencies. That setting is used for measuring sound levels from machinery in factories. If that meter has a C weighting, that's what should be used for low frequencies. If that meter does not have C weighting....get another meter.
I have two 12" Skar subs in my Suburban. I was initially skeptical since I'd never heard about their products. But turns out they sound great and have a lot of kick for the low price. I've had them for about a year now. Glad I took a chance on purchasing them.
@Junior I did 2 12 sdr with skar 1200 watt amp and it smacks and sounds clean. I had 2 12 l7t kicker in my crew cab truck and sounded nothing like this
@adamtx214 I ran a single SDR 12 at 1ohm on the 1200 and it took all the juice without a problem. It was impressive for as cheap as it was. I am now running a Audio Control 1.800 Amp to 2 JL Audio 10w1v3 subs in a jl stealtbox. The audio control/Jl is way cleaner. The Skar has way more forceful bass.
The red mechanical piece to the skar is called a spider and where the speaker wires connect to the subwoofer those are called terminals. Great video, thanks for the review and feedback
@@dbanks8995 so your telling me that if i put 1500 watts on a 1500 watt rms sub that if i turn the volume down so that the voltage output of 1500 drops to 200 that it is going to sound different. maybe it sounds different because it is louder?? then i understand what you mean, but noo it will not change the sound of the sub by running less power. it will still preform exactly the same but at different levels of percieved output. now if you start to clip that amp then yes the sound will change. but i will stick to my statement that power does not dictate how the sub will sound, untill you either exceed sub xmax or clip the crap out of the amp.
This is a bad comparison. Comp q vs the vxf or atleast the evl.. both sq subs with alittle spl. The sdr is a is only rated for 600 watts rms, 970z motor and a 2inch coil
I run a $60 SKAR 8" 2ohm and it HITS in the Jeep!!! I made sure I changed the speaker phase to get the maximum bass frequency and it rumbles nicely. A lot nicer than the stock Infinity 8" that was in the Jeep. SKAR is making a serious statement in the sub game. Folks are sleeping on em!
@@zaingunter4596 depends on your setup. You don't always have to. On my setup, I had to. You will know based on the head unit you install and how each phase sounds. Put it on the phase you prefer, based on how you like your bass to hit. It's all in the setup, so can't predict if you will swap yours or not.
@@zaingunter4596 a lot of times when people mount their sub inverted , like he did here with the Kicker sub , they reverse the polarity so it makes it basically hit the same as if the sub was mounted normally Inside the box . hope that helped ?!! But there are many more reasons to switch polarity than just my example .
I have 2 comp q 12s 1ohm to 2.5k amp and the quality was all there. Bass had no distortion whatsoever and never ounce did it smell burned or anything during hours of play. Good sub in my book
I agree bro. I got 2 compq 12’s in a ported box on a 1500 watt hifonics amp. Beats like crazy and can withstand whatever you throw it’s way. Love these subs, their worth every penny 🦍💪🏾💯
I like dc level 2 12s no issues just my preference running one looking at One more if it sounds good to you jam it be it an 8 be it 18 just have fun and jam that is .02
@@SuperDedric You know what I’m talking bout then. They hit hard asf on my 2.5k 2 1/4cube box. I had mine a year before they got stolen. No one in town had them for the longest
I just got 2 Q-12's and got the Kicker CXA1800.1T played them for a few min and I did smell them just a lil. So you never smelled anything from the bringing?
@@ulisesmunguia9763 same to you did ya have to upgrade anything on the car to support the 1200 amp? Just ordered skar 12 and 1200w amp today and need to know if need bigger alternator or 2 batteries. I appreciate your time
@@jojolol4823 nah the car dims when the bass hits but I mean it’s not too bad nor does it brother me. Im also running 2 vvx on a 1500 skar amp and it sits around 14 volts
No hate here, just some info to help steer you in the future. Do more research in the future before downing any subwoofer. Not that you actively put down Kicker but the tests you did were not a fair test of either. The box you use needs to be tailored to the subwoofer you use. I didn't pull up the T/S parameters for those but I guarantee you they are very different. Your box was likely too far off for what's ideal for the Kicker in order to perform well. The Skar probably was closer, hence why it sounded better. Turns out what's better for you and your setup is the Skar. That said, this wasn't not a good comparison and the results should not steer anyone towards or away from either product. Best wishes moving forward and have fun with audio. There's SO much to learn and experiment with.
I agree I went from a JL AUDIO W6 to the Kicker Q class 10 inch round it sounds better than that sub. My son has skar in his car off a Rockford AMP it sounds good but not better than a Q class Round. I had a box built for both to exact specs.
@@Adetokunbo03 The problem is this guy is comparing the Comp Q which is kicker's newest top of the line model when the skar SDR is lower to mid range for Skar. He needs to choose the same price range and quality range because in this case if you know already about the Comp Q and the skar SDR, all you have to do is read the title and its the answer is clear. This guy is kinda stupid lol
In 2002, I had two 12in Kicker Comp Vrs(black face) in a sealed box on a 1200 Class D amp wired at 1Ω with an external Cadence crossover. Pioneer head unit and Optima Yellow Top for the whole car. NO CAPACITOR!!! My car was a 95 Caprice! It hit so hard, if you sat in the backseat, you would lose your breath. If you had asthma, guaranteed to get an asthma attack.
I bought two skars 8 inch subwoofer 400 watts each. They actually perform very good, I paid about 100 dollars each. The only thing is that they only lasted me about 3 years. Where with kicker l7 I had them for over 6 years or more.
Made the switch from an old Comp RT10 Kicker to the Skar 10", night and day difference. I spent the better part of a month breaking in the kicker when it was new, I was dreading breaking the new one in. But, it sounds amazing out of the box. Hit's just as hard (if not harder) and the lows are enough to make my eyeballs vibrate. Couldn't be happier with a 90 dollar sub honestly.
I found Skar to be a better Boom for the buck, too! Caught me off guard as well! Had mine for almost a year and they still beat hard. I liked how you were honest. And as far as beauty. I thought the way "Skar" written in Gothic Form on the dust cap was super hard.
Agree. I have my brothers set of 12 inch skars 2400watt package. I got a NVX XAD 16. 8000watt. As of now with a 350 amp alt and a agm battery. Vehicle runs out a juice before the skars blow. Getting another battery soon and go from there. I am impressed with the sound of the skars. Like a MAJOR step up compared say Mtx terminator as far as bolt and go's. Perfect for budget systems.
Thump vs punch, I think the star has a slightly bigger foam surround so it has more travel, the q10 I think is designed for more technical tracks or to be used with a dsp and good component speakers to "fill" out the soundstage
I've been using kicker for 20 years and they haven't let me down and I'm going to stick with what I know and they are only getting better.With the right box Kickers are a beast.
@@gassgames tgat evil is a mid level sub with bad parameters and cheap parts Skar is a plug and play parts from a magazine in China no quality control and when real audiophiles detail them they are decent spl subs nothing else with wack frequency ranges because they lie and don’t even have in house testers
I love my 2 10 and 12 inch skar subs I used atrend boxes but cut a round 12 inch hole in all three boxes and made them passive radiator subs using earthquake 12 inch passives . I ended up putting them in my bedroom. my neighbors don't really like me anymore. the bass is so deep and powerful. And they don't have to be loud
Started in the 80's with Sparkomatic cassette radio with a Radio Shack eq/power booster and Pioneer speakers and a dual sub that a friend and I built for the back of my 1986 Honda Civic Si. We got some of the biggest speakers we could find then built a huge box, drilled a hole for a port and we were rockin! LMAO Have gradually upgraded over the decades and have used everything and anything. Have been using Kicker since around 2008 and doubt I will change. No distortion at high level in my modern Si.
LMAO! I remember my Radio Shack subs in the late 80’s! I was in Vo-Tech carpentry class that I built an awesome enclosure for (2) Radio Shack 15” subs w/ AlphaSonic 200/w amp (100x2) in my Honda Civic hatchback and it seemed so loud for the time; everybody in school was amazed at my audio for 6x9s were popular in everybody’s ride . In 91’ for graduation present I got (2) Kicker 15” subs and a Hifonics Hercules (200wx1) and it was “pure power” and was hammering those 15’s back then. @ Mike Dav#BestofTimes#🔊
No substitute for real world experience. My first system was a Motorola 8-track about the size of a small briefcase that I strategically mounted under the dash in an old Dodge charger. I had that rare mixture of triaxials, coaxials and whizzer cones,, a total of 7,,and don't you know I had all of them hooked up. No telling what kind of a crazy ohm load I was pushing. King of the world when I hooked up that Craig power play.
You don’t have to run a wire underneath Tj speaker just take the leads you have connected to the box and connect directly to the sub and I have heard both in 12inch variants the kicker blows it away you depends on amplifier you are using
I bought the skar 12” single sub package with the 800 watt rms amp. I am shocked at how good it sounds and how hard it hits. I would definitely buy more of their products in the future. It doesn’t compare to the last system I had. It’s a terrible comparison since that system was 3 alpine type r 12’s in a custom box and an old school kicker zx1000. When I sell my car and get my truck I’m moving my skar equipment over.
Everyone needs to understand power dynamics and frequency response when it comes to comparing speakers. The ported boxes im almost sure was tuned to a certain frequency which will give an advantage to one speaker vs the other. You're putting 600 watts and 700 watts against each other using the same power source with out adjusting anything. The smaller rms will always sound louder in that scenario being it takes less power to push it. Long story short if you are looking for a certain sound do the math and research to pair the right things together.
Speaker sensitivity plays the biggest factor since same box and same amp. I'm sure the skar has higher db/watt sensitivity that's why it sounded louder or the box is tuned closer to the speakers specs not because it takes less power to push it. If I hook up a 200rms sub and a 1000rms sub to a 1000 watt amp the 1000 rms sub will be louder.
The SDR is only their entry-level sub for $89 basically a starter sub if you would have got a any other star sub over $200 like evl it would have destroyed Kicker sub
Show me a sound quality system that uses Skar subs. I'll wait. Skar is diy company with rebranded subs that moves allot of air but use them for what they are intended. Loud SPL etc. That's what their for. Period. Even they would agree on that. Period
I have always been a fan of Kicker, especially when I ran the (4 ) 15" Cvx and also (4) 15" Solo X's . But I have a better respect for the Skars, cuz I have had 3 builds with EVL's , Ddv, and also the Zx series. All were 12", and I had a better build , experience and less spent on the builds. Plus I use them as an split build and daily driver. The skars are better overall, and better for the pocket and piece of mind
I'm currently on my 4th set of L7:s in a year. 1st set blew in 2 weeks. 2nd set in 1 month. Baby sitter em for 6 mos and still they blew. These last 2 replacements are now being used indoors as house speakers where I can baby sit em and check if they're hot easily. I replaced em with the Skar SDR 10s and after they broke in they hit harder and lower than the kickers and I can abuse them. I abused them purposely to see if they would get hot and after hours of being overpowered they are never hot and have already outlasted the L7s. Kicker has that warranty for a reason and instead of spending all their money on all of these marketers, kicker should spend that on better subs. I feel like a wasted over $600 on these L7's and if anyone wants em just reply and I'll give you a great deal on em. I still have the boxes lol (that shows I'm worried they will blow) Skar boxes have been discarded. Still have all receipts and proof of when they were sent to me (02/2024) never again. If you're stuck with a box that only takes L7, ak sound has cutouts that convert them to circles so that you can get out of that l7 trap.
Hey man thank you for posting this video. It gives many people a learning opportunity. I could point out quite a few experimental flaws in the video but I'll keep it educational. 1) The red part your're referring to is called the spider and it's a second suspension, which also help to keep the voice-coil aligned in the gap. 2) Reverse-mounting a subwoofer removes the speaker displacement from the internal volume of the enclosure, thereby lowering the tuning frequency. 3) Never buy speakers with plastic diaphragms (cones). They are weak, and prone to resonant peaks and cone distortion at high excursion. Paper cones offer lightweight, rigid diaphragms with excellent natural dampening. 4) Speakers with attention to cosmetics are gimmicks. Form follows function and flash is trash. Don't be fooled by a price tag. I don't own any Skar subs, but between Kicker and Skar, the choice is easy. Good call there.
In a good box and proper setup a CompQ will shit on a SDR all day long, but it's hard to beat the SDR cuz of how cheap they are, it's all but a $200 difference in price. For the price of 1 CompQ you can get 3 SDR's and 3 subs are better than 1 🤙🤙
You can't just compare the kicker comp Q's and the Skar SDR's bro they're no where near the same level Comp Q being kicker's top of the line and Skar SDR being lower to mid range. The kicker Comp VR or Comp R is what you need to compare with the sdr. Or you could do the Skar EVL or ZVX and the Comp Q.
running a skar zvx v2 15 on skar rp 2000.1 amp in a vented box. had the setup for three years now all works great. amp isnt even touching the sub, seen people run the 4500 amps on it no prob. lets just say its destroying my car from the front to back. skar is the poor mans sundown, and def. my top choice for best bang for the buck. i can have a sheet of paper hang in my window about half way open thats how much air the one sub can move, pretty insane for the money. the vvx model was awesome too, but think they discontinued them.
You should mount them the same way for your test and you might get a better sound for the kicker the real test is long term and the kicker should last longer it is what it is paper vs plastic cone
How do you think this is even close to a fair comparison? The 2nd woofer didn’t fit in the box You didn’t have it sealed. They had different airspace. Your decibel meter probably doesn’t go over 114. You were shoving the mic into the speaker. You can play sine waves with no music to test in the vehicle. Port noise and SPL are 2 different things. Pretty sure I forgot 2 other things wrong with this comparison while I typed these out. Sheesh
The only thing I don't like so far on the skars is the screw holes on the basket don't line up with the holes on the rubber on the top. So taking the screws out your pulling the rubber upwards
They have ones that are the same price from kicker and skar tho just depends on what quality or series u get. the 10s i just got was 200 a piece for skar
Love the fact you took the time to do this but you just passed on a sub that will kill that skar if you put it in the right box per specs. That is everything to any sub regardless of brand and cost. Now if the decision is based on the box you have then I get it but that compq has a killer low end when in the right box.
Have a comp q 12 on a ct sounds 1000.1 d in a 2.7 box ported at 30 hz.. it smashes the lows so hard i have worried about breaking shit. But it is insane. For q 12 inch sub and it takes that 900 to 1000 all day
If you spend on a Skar sub what you do on Kicker the difference will be huge. (Skar amps are trash) I have a single 12" Skar EVL on a Down4Sound JP13 ,that is a little small really, in the correct box (the box is also wrong for the Skar he has) and it's great. Box, amp, and wiring is every bit as important as the sub you choose. I've made trash sound great with professionally built boxes and quality amps set up correctly.
This isn't even close! The Kicker is much nicer. And yes, that's real stitching. Not cheaply made. There's no way you can judge sound on these headphones, though. If that Kicker was mounted right, it wouldn't even be close. It would thump a lot more than you think.
well sure, skar makes some great subs and there are some very heavy hitters at 15" and 18", but these are 10's in a very improper box and skar is more about value with the smaller subs, this is really an unfair comparison. using a cheap plate amp from parts express with an EVL-65 is probably the best diy home theater system you can get but i wouldn't expect any of their 8's to go toe to toe with an 8" q class, even if the ZVX-8 isn't misrepresented in RMS power i still think it would have a hard time beating out the kicker for power and sound quality.
@@redman4076 What he said is true Call me a fanboy if you want but I've only owned skar subwoofers. blown one up got a new one through warranty in a week $50 sub producing the loudest bass I and my friends have ever heard. I have since upgraded to the SDR I only have it on one third the wattage it is rated for and i'm very happy with it. Also that was $100 versus a $230 so I would hope that $230 one wins
@@gloomy_-5019 I hear ya if it works for you then bump what YOU like I personally don't care for Skar but that just my opinion there upper line subs are good but I've had bad experiences with the lower tier products But BASS ON homie 👍🏽👊🏽✌🏽💯
I have two ix 12 also and they’re ok for the price but I’ve broke 2of them on an alpine 500rms and I never have had an issue using the same amp and just swapped from a single Rockford fidgeted p3d4 10 .
@Timbo Slice I was gonna go sundown.. I'm just starting out and bought a soundstream tarantula 12 and had a custom box made from gp audio.. I fried the soundstream and wanted a sub with similar box specs as the tarantula. So me and my boy looked around and thought the vxf would fot perfectly and it does, and sounds great. So I didn't have to have a new box built
@Timbo Slice which sucks, because back when the kicker cvr came out they were the shit... had 2 in the back of my jeep cherokee... now, I wouldn't touch them unless they were free lol
This is not even a comparison.... first off skar is a catalog brand AKA as cookie cutter.....no engineering and r/d.... kicker is respected and hated by alot of people but can't deny the quality and performance of their products..... this comp q is a very good sub... Excellent SQ and it's very efficient..... It doesn't miss a beat..... it's musical, I mean I can go on and on..... it's all in the box and If it's built right.... giving it clean power too....
I ran the CT sounds 2000.1d to two sdr 12s @.5 ohms so it was about 1100 rms to each speaker. It was pretty loud. Smoked them in 5 minutes. Then I put in 2 DC audio level2 12s in the same set up… oh my lord. The SKAR hit the lows the pretty good can’t handle many watts to them. I bet if you threw some real watts to that kicker you would be blown away. Nice vid BTW!!!
Sdr are rated for 600 not 1000 Watt Bro where you live at let me ride down the road with my evil 12s in my 2000 watts and I'll rattle your whole freaking house
These subs aren't similar at all. The Kicker does have more. If you had 4-6 Sdr vs the 4-6 Kicker, the Kicker would win in Spl. I have 2 Skar vxf 12s, but it is a whole different level than the Sdr. Something might be wrong with the way you set it up.
The old 90's kickers with the gold logo did bump pretty good when I had some but I will say those kickers solo barics really had some balls heard some 8 inch and man they can get down back in the days now I've seen a video on those new kickers and in sound quality they say they aren't the best that's not my opinion that's just a video I saw
There’s no way that Skar sounds better at all.. maybe if you’d get a custom box built to each sub and did a review after you’d have a way different opinion. That kicker is being choked in that prefab box and wasn’t getting a good seal.
Only reason would be if the kicker has lighter moving mass and a big spider. Robot Underground on CZcams can tell you why. Skar does use aluminum formers on both copper and aluminum voicecoils.
Place the kicker into a box that will handle that sub facing the other way, or you can run the phase reverse so the speaker works properly in the box up side down.
The maximum wattage is normally twice the RMS although maximum or Peak means absolutely nothing I don't know what you need that specification for the only one that really counts is the RMS that's why the kicker has that rating because it's a legitimate Honest Company that's been around much longer than Skar guaranteed no matter which one you pick and I did not watch the video yet the Skar will not last as long.
That kicker is a way better sub. Once broken in it'll be louder. The spider is stiffer compared to the soft suspension on the skar. Put both in the optimum enclosure and then do the test.
If inverting sub (motor side out), it should be wired out of phase. If anything is gained from inverting subs, it's due to the added volume in the enclosure. (Not losing any volume that the frame and motor would displace, if inside)
why you would you put it out of phase?? better yet how do you wire out of phase? phase is set by your amplifier if it even has the feature. I have 2 Resilient Sounds platinum 15's and they're inverted wired to 1 ohm on an MD8k. they are wired the same way as they were when they were mounted normally
I think they meant wired backwards, as in positive coming from the amp going to negative of the sub, and neg from amp to pos of sub. I've heard that also but never knew how true it was but have been told by old timers that I've if your going to run the sub backwards like that, you need to reserve your polarities so that it's pushing and not pulling or vice-versa, ive never known how true that is or isn't though... but have always wondered myself actually..
I have a single q class 12 on a 1000 watt amp and I love it I'm not arguing everyone has what they like and that's the way it should be it's super punchy shakes my dodge ram more than I'd like but I love bass but the tight responsive bass not the boomy bass it's my preference and the kicker q class gives me what I enjoy. My brother loves skar he likes the sound and swears by them but we both agree each others set up is bad ass
I've owned just about every brand and model of sub since the early 90's and skar is legit. I got 4-15 zvx's that will rip your head off and sound good doing it. I've owned a kicker 18 solo x and also have had 4-15 kicker solo barics while still good they've just lacked in impact and sq.
@@normhiscock352 I just ordered 2 america bass 12 inch subs what you think of them they have good reviews people say best bass for your buck it was 410$
Question: Is the Kicker brand new out the box? If so, is this your first time playing it? I ask because what a lot of people don’t know about Kicker subs, is that they have to go through a break-in period. Straight out the box, they’re not going to sound their best. Trust me, once they’ve reached their break-in period, the bass is much deeper and more crisp.
@@kammarh1 so in order to do an accurate comparison, you would have needed to put each sub in their recommended enclosure and if you are going to put the sub inverted, it would be better to put the speaker wire that was coming from the amp to the speaker instead of using the wire in the box. also fyi the comp q is better suited for sq not spl like the skar subs, the comp q is a better rival to the jl that you took out .
The enclosure is literally the most important thing! Two 100 dollar subs in a perfectly designed enclosure will destroy a 1000 dollar sub in a shitty enclosure! You can not compare 2 completely different subs with the same enclosure!
You are 100 percent correct.
Brother speaks truth, we got 134dB from a single 5" in a F.Q.W.L. enclosure at 44Hz
I’ve been saying the same for years. The box is the most important part of the build
When you get that perfect enclosure with an expensive sub it's an amazing experience lol.
You had that SPL meter set on the A weighted scale, which intentionally filters out lower frequencies. That setting is used for measuring sound levels from machinery in factories. If that meter has a C weighting, that's what should be used for low frequencies. If that meter does not have C weighting....get another meter.
I was getting ready to post this on his video til I read your post. People don't understand frequency settings.
That’s the least of his problems.
@@roberthunter8573 yup not everyone is a car audio guy..
@@CUSOCOOL thank God for that.
@@johnviera3884 This guy is toast.
I have two 12" Skar subs in my Suburban. I was initially skeptical since I'd never heard about their products. But turns out they sound great and have a lot of kick for the low price. I've had them for about a year now. Glad I took a chance on purchasing them.
SDR OR SVR?
@Junior I did 2 12 sdr with skar 1200 watt amp and it smacks and sounds clean. I had 2 12 l7t kicker in my crew cab truck and sounded nothing like this
@adamtx214 I ran a single SDR 12 at 1ohm on the 1200 and it took all the juice without a problem. It was impressive for as cheap as it was. I am now running a Audio Control 1.800 Amp to 2 JL Audio 10w1v3 subs in a jl stealtbox. The audio control/Jl is way cleaner. The Skar has way more forceful bass.
The red mechanical piece to the skar is called a spider and where the speaker wires connect to the subwoofer those are called terminals. Great video, thanks for the review and feedback
The kicker needs a lot of power . A cheaper sub will sometimes sound better than an underpowered expensive one
Exactly! Put that kicker in the proper box with the right amount of power and it will “kicker” that skarr’s ass!!
power doenst dictate how the sub will sound.
Definitely not true .. run a 200w on a 1500 rms sub . See results, compared to a 1500 rms amp & sub . Night & day sound difference
@@dbanks8995 so your telling me that if i put 1500 watts on a 1500 watt rms sub that if i turn the volume down so that the voltage output of 1500 drops to 200 that it is going to sound different. maybe it sounds different because it is louder?? then i understand what you mean, but noo it will not change the sound of the sub by running less power. it will still preform exactly the same but at different levels of percieved output. now if you start to clip that amp then yes the sound will change. but i will stick to my statement that power does not dictate how the sub will sound, untill you either exceed sub xmax or clip the crap out of the amp.
Kicker sheet ... we all Ballin on a budget out here .. ever since they sold to best buy there junk
This is a bad comparison. Comp q vs the vxf or atleast the evl.. both sq subs with alittle spl. The sdr is a is only rated for 600 watts rms, 970z motor and a 2inch coil
It’s not a 970 oz motor. It’s a 97 oz motor. Nor does it have a 2 inch coil. It has a 2.5 inch coil.
I run a $60 SKAR 8" 2ohm and it HITS in the Jeep!!! I made sure I changed the speaker phase to get the maximum bass frequency and it rumbles nicely. A lot nicer than the stock Infinity 8" that was in the Jeep. SKAR is making a serious statement in the sub game. Folks are sleeping on em!
Why would you have need to switch pahse
@@zaingunter4596 depends on your setup. You don't always have to. On my setup, I had to. You will know based on the head unit you install and how each phase sounds.
Put it on the phase you prefer, based on how you like your bass to hit. It's all in the setup, so can't predict if you will swap yours or not.
@@zaingunter4596 a lot of times when people mount their sub inverted , like he did here with the Kicker sub , they reverse the polarity so it makes it basically hit the same as if the sub was mounted normally Inside the box . hope that helped ?!! But there are many more reasons to switch polarity than just my example .
The red mat is called a spider
Max power don't mean shit bro it's about RMS"
And that don't mean shit if u ain't got the right electric and amp
Ya most ppl don't understand max wattage it's mainly ment for blurping or real short bursts of max power
@@projectf025 The max that is usually advertised isn't even correct.
@@ch8sk1n typically thats the case lol
Agreed
I have 2 comp q 12s 1ohm to 2.5k amp and the quality was all there. Bass had no distortion whatsoever and never ounce did it smell burned or anything during hours of play. Good sub in my book
I agree bro. I got 2 compq 12’s in a ported box on a 1500 watt hifonics amp. Beats like crazy and can withstand whatever you throw it’s way. Love these subs, their worth every penny 🦍💪🏾💯
I like dc level 2 12s no issues just my preference running one looking at One more if it sounds good to you jam it be it an 8 be it 18 just have fun and jam that is .02
@@SuperDedric You know what I’m talking bout then. They hit hard asf on my 2.5k 2 1/4cube box. I had mine a year before they got stolen. No one in town had them for the longest
@@thomasnygard2334 I’ve been curious about dc subs on the cool.
I just got 2 Q-12's and got the Kicker CXA1800.1T played them for a few min and I did smell them just a lil. So you never smelled anything from the bringing?
I've got two Skar SDR-10d4 on a Skar RP800.1D and I'm blown away how loud it is (and SQ also). Subs and amp only $330.00
Run it at the 1200 one . It’s disgusting with that amp
Did you have to upgrade alternator for that?
@@ulisesmunguia9763 same to you did ya have to upgrade anything on the car to support the 1200 amp? Just ordered skar 12 and 1200w amp today and need to know if need bigger alternator or 2 batteries. I appreciate your time
@@jojolol4823 nah the car dims when the bass hits but I mean it’s not too bad nor does it brother me. Im also running 2 vvx on a 1500 skar amp and it sits around 14 volts
That 1500 is on a Yukon and the 1200 one is on a charger
No hate here, just some info to help steer you in the future. Do more research in the future before downing any subwoofer. Not that you actively put down Kicker but the tests you did were not a fair test of either. The box you use needs to be tailored to the subwoofer you use. I didn't pull up the T/S parameters for those but I guarantee you they are very different. Your box was likely too far off for what's ideal for the Kicker in order to perform well. The Skar probably was closer, hence why it sounded better. Turns out what's better for you and your setup is the Skar. That said, this wasn't not a good comparison and the results should not steer anyone towards or away from either product. Best wishes moving forward and have fun with audio. There's SO much to learn and experiment with.
I agree I went from a JL AUDIO W6 to the Kicker Q class 10 inch round it sounds better than that sub. My son has skar in his car off a Rockford AMP it sounds good but not better than a Q class Round. I had a box built for both to exact specs.
@@Adetokunbo03 The problem is this guy is comparing the Comp Q which is kicker's newest top of the line model when the skar SDR is lower to mid range for Skar. He needs to choose the same price range and quality range because in this case if you know already about the Comp Q and the skar SDR, all you have to do is read the title and its the answer is clear. This guy is kinda stupid lol
Smell the butthurt
@@pstain1 Smell the burnt voice coil of your $90 sub in an Amazon prefab
@@loafboi_ damn that's harsh. I didn't know people still bought prefab boxes, or 90 dollar subwoofers. You must still live with your parents.
That kicker needed a way bigger box
Yea kicker subs want alot of air space. And I'm not sure if he adjusted the settings on the amp when he played it.
Box plays a huge role in preformance
In 2002, I had two 12in Kicker Comp Vrs(black face) in a sealed box on a 1200 Class D amp wired at 1Ω with an external Cadence crossover. Pioneer head unit and Optima Yellow Top for the whole car. NO CAPACITOR!!! My car was a 95 Caprice! It hit so hard, if you sat in the backseat, you would lose your breath. If you had asthma, guaranteed to get an asthma attack.
I bought two skars 8 inch subwoofer 400 watts each. They actually perform very good, I paid about 100 dollars each. The only thing is that they only lasted me about 3 years. Where with kicker l7 I had them for over 6 years or more.
I have a set of compq 12’s in my SS, on a B2 audio 2500.1 rage they hit really hard and down to 28hz
Im curious what's your box specs for those? I have 2 Comp12 Q's also but to get to 28hz I'm sure the box is enormous.
Run the wires thru the port so you get a good seal around the sub
good idea. i didn't think about doing that.
Made the switch from an old Comp RT10 Kicker to the Skar 10", night and day difference. I spent the better part of a month breaking in the kicker when it was new, I was dreading breaking the new one in. But, it sounds amazing out of the box. Hit's just as hard (if not harder) and the lows are enough to make my eyeballs vibrate. Couldn't be happier with a 90 dollar sub honestly.
I I blew a 12-in kicker CompR 500 rms watts on a 600 watt mono kicker amp.kicker specs are dead on but I'm gonna go with skar svr 12 inch 800 rms sub.
You can always add rubber gasket rings to your grill mounts to extend the bars out a bit... 😉
The kicker Q class are amazing Subs but I'll stick with Sundown and Skar though for now.
kickers newer subs suck old school was the best ones yet but kicker for the money not worth it
Yea about that Skarbage!
@@jerodjordan9570 ain't no skarbage 🤣
@@jerodjordan9570 skar is not a bad company kicker has the worst speaker systems worst subwoofers worst amps
@@thaboiimarcos9459 i wouldn’t say $280 for a comp q 12 is that expensive for the highest quality sub they have
I found Skar to be a better Boom for the buck, too! Caught me off guard as well! Had mine for almost a year and they still beat hard. I liked how you were honest. And as far as beauty. I thought the way "Skar" written in Gothic Form on the dust cap was super hard.
Agree. I have my brothers set of 12 inch skars 2400watt package. I got a NVX XAD 16. 8000watt. As of now with a 350 amp alt and a agm battery. Vehicle runs out a juice before the skars blow. Getting another battery soon and go from there. I am impressed with the sound of the skars. Like a MAJOR step up compared say Mtx terminator as far as bolt and go's. Perfect for budget systems.
Thump vs punch, I think the star has a slightly bigger foam surround so it has more travel, the q10 I think is designed for more technical tracks or to be used with a dsp and good component speakers to "fill" out the soundstage
If you would have took the skar SDR and put it against Walmart Kicker Comp C. It would have been a different
I've been using kicker for 20 years and they haven't let me down and I'm going to stick with what I know and they are only getting better.With the right box Kickers are a beast.
Skar Audio evl smokes them but kicker is chill
@@gassgames not happening bro stop lying
@@gassgames tgat evil is a mid level sub with bad parameters and cheap parts Skar is a plug and play parts from a magazine in China no quality control and when real audiophiles detail them they are decent spl subs nothing else with wack frequency ranges because they lie and don’t even have in house testers
@@jerodjordan9570 cool story
@@jerodjordan9570 google subs bro Skar and Sundown have the biggest dicks
Good review but the kicker calls for a sealed non vented enclosure. I guarantee the kicker would slam harder with a different enclosure
Naw they need the extra large ported box will play deep and loud. I have had both and they do sound Amazing in a sealed box especially for a SQ setup
The kicker is not limited to a sealed enclosure... but you are right that a custom enclosure would make a world of a difference.
Ported is always better if it's built sub specific.
I love my 2 10 and 12 inch skar subs I used atrend boxes but cut a round 12 inch hole in all three boxes and made them passive radiator subs using earthquake 12 inch passives . I ended up putting them in my bedroom. my neighbors don't really like me anymore. the bass is so deep and powerful. And they don't have to be loud
I got dual sdr 12s on a rp1200.1 wired to 1 ohm and I love it. Definitely amazing for the price.
Same here. Shit knockin pictures off the wall 💯
How is it lasting so far
If u had a $30 sub, it would sound just as good in that box bro. You cant judge a sub by a box that's not meant or tuned for it.
You’ve got a lot to learn, man!
Started in the 80's with Sparkomatic cassette radio with a Radio Shack eq/power booster and Pioneer speakers and a dual sub that a friend and I built for the back of my 1986 Honda Civic Si. We got some of the biggest speakers we could find then built a huge box, drilled a hole for a port and we were rockin! LMAO Have gradually upgraded over the decades and have used everything and anything. Have been using Kicker since around 2008 and doubt I will change. No distortion at high level in my modern Si.
LMAO! I remember my Radio Shack subs in the late 80’s! I was in Vo-Tech carpentry class that I built an awesome enclosure for (2) Radio Shack 15” subs w/ AlphaSonic 200/w amp (100x2) in my Honda Civic hatchback and it seemed so loud for the time; everybody in school was amazed at my audio for 6x9s were popular in everybody’s ride . In 91’ for graduation present I got (2) Kicker 15” subs and a Hifonics Hercules (200wx1) and it was “pure power” and was hammering those 15’s back then. @ Mike Dav#BestofTimes#🔊
No substitute for real world experience. My first system was a Motorola 8-track about the size of a small briefcase that I strategically mounted under the dash in an old Dodge charger. I had that rare mixture of triaxials, coaxials and whizzer cones,, a total of 7,,and don't you know I had all of them hooked up. No telling what kind of a crazy ohm load I was pushing. King of the world when I hooked up that Craig power play.
Get that decibel meter out of that grill. It is not a cooking thermometer 🤒...
🤣🤣🤣🤣
You don’t have to run a wire underneath Tj speaker just take the leads you have connected to the box and connect directly to the sub and I have heard both in 12inch variants the kicker blows it away you depends on amplifier you are using
I bought the skar 12” single sub package with the 800 watt rms amp. I am shocked at how good it sounds and how hard it hits. I would definitely buy more of their products in the future. It doesn’t compare to the last system I had. It’s a terrible comparison since that system was 3 alpine type r 12’s in a custom box and an old school kicker zx1000. When I sell my car and get my truck I’m moving my skar equipment over.
i have a 10” skar sub 800w with a polk audio sub amp and it sounds great man it really kicks
I’m excited then I’m looking to put the 10 inch version in my 2012 golf 2.5l. I upgrading my door speakers too so it should sound amazing
The quality sound coming out of that kicker Q destroys the skar by miles
How can you compare subs if subs aren't mounted the same ?
He's dumb
Everyone needs to understand power dynamics and frequency response when it comes to comparing speakers. The ported boxes im almost sure was tuned to a certain frequency which will give an advantage to one speaker vs the other. You're putting 600 watts and 700 watts against each other using the same power source with out adjusting anything. The smaller rms will always sound louder in that scenario being it takes less power to push it. Long story short if you are looking for a certain sound do the math and research to pair the right things together.
Correct, maybe sealed enclosure would be better than this box since box is tuned for a certain speaker not every speaker.
Speaker sensitivity plays the biggest factor since same box and same amp. I'm sure the skar has higher db/watt sensitivity that's why it sounded louder or the box is tuned closer to the speakers specs not because it takes less power to push it. If I hook up a 200rms sub and a 1000rms sub to a 1000 watt amp the 1000 rms sub will be louder.
Power handling and system sensitivity are not correlated the way you think they are.
The SDR is only their entry-level sub for $89 basically a starter sub if you would have got a any other star sub over $200 like evl it would have destroyed Kicker sub
Show me a sound quality system that uses Skar subs. I'll wait. Skar is diy company with rebranded subs that moves allot of air but use them for what they are intended. Loud SPL etc. That's what their for. Period. Even they would agree on that. Period
I have always been a fan of Kicker, especially when I ran the (4 ) 15" Cvx and also (4) 15" Solo X's . But I have a better respect for the Skars, cuz I have had 3 builds with EVL's , Ddv, and also the Zx series. All were 12", and I had a better build , experience and less spent on the builds. Plus I use them as an split build and daily driver. The skars are better overall, and better for the pocket and piece of mind
@@angelvip2474 What Does That Have To Do With This? This Is Skar Vs Kicker. Not Skar Vs Every Speaker Ever
Wong they have a IX series and those are the budget friendly one. $50 for a 12 inch
@@TheIndoGod the EVL IS SKAR AUDIOS Premier Subwoofer line
I'm currently on my 4th set of L7:s in a year. 1st set blew in 2 weeks. 2nd set in 1 month. Baby sitter em for 6 mos and still they blew. These last 2 replacements are now being used indoors as house speakers where I can baby sit em and check if they're hot easily. I replaced em with the Skar SDR 10s and after they broke in they hit harder and lower than the kickers and I can abuse them. I abused them purposely to see if they would get hot and after hours of being overpowered they are never hot and have already outlasted the L7s. Kicker has that warranty for a reason and instead of spending all their money on all of these marketers, kicker should spend that on better subs. I feel like a wasted over $600 on these L7's and if anyone wants em just reply and I'll give you a great deal on em. I still have the boxes lol (that shows I'm worried they will blow) Skar boxes have been discarded. Still have all receipts and proof of when they were sent to me (02/2024) never again. If you're stuck with a box that only takes L7, ak sound has cutouts that convert them to circles so that you can get out of that l7 trap.
I have two Evil 12s and RP 2000 Watt amp and it's flexing my whole truck
Hey man thank you for posting this video. It gives many people a learning opportunity. I could point out quite a few experimental flaws in the video but I'll keep it educational. 1) The red part your're referring to is called the spider and it's a second suspension, which also help to keep the voice-coil aligned in the gap. 2) Reverse-mounting a subwoofer removes the speaker displacement from the internal volume of the enclosure, thereby lowering the tuning frequency. 3) Never buy speakers with plastic diaphragms (cones). They are weak, and prone to resonant peaks and cone distortion at high excursion. Paper cones offer lightweight, rigid diaphragms with excellent natural dampening. 4) Speakers with attention to cosmetics are gimmicks. Form follows function and flash is trash. Don't be fooled by a price tag.
I don't own any Skar subs, but between Kicker and Skar, the choice is easy. Good call there.
In a good box and proper setup a CompQ will shit on a SDR all day long, but it's hard to beat the SDR cuz of how cheap they are, it's all but a $200 difference in price. For the price of 1 CompQ you can get 3 SDR's and 3 subs are better than 1 🤙🤙
You can't just compare the kicker comp Q's and the Skar SDR's bro they're no where near the same level Comp Q being kicker's top of the line and Skar SDR being lower to mid range. The kicker Comp VR or Comp R is what you need to compare with the sdr. Or you could do the Skar EVL or ZVX and the Comp Q.
EVL will destroy that Comp Q nevermind the ZVX!
running a skar zvx v2 15 on skar rp 2000.1 amp in a vented box. had the setup for three years now all works great. amp isnt even touching the sub, seen people run the 4500 amps on it no prob. lets just say its destroying my car from the front to back. skar is the poor mans sundown, and def. my top choice for best bang for the buck. i can have a sheet of paper hang in my window about half way open thats how much air the one sub can move, pretty insane for the money. the vvx model was awesome too, but think they discontinued them.
Get you a properly built and tuned box for your specific sub and you will get louder quality sound.
You should mount them the same way for your test and you might get a better sound for the kicker the real test is long term and the kicker should last longer it is what it is paper vs plastic cone
Kickers usually require a complete sealed box, no ventilation, I have listened to 12 inch kickers sealed and vented and sealed is amazing.
you 100% correct!!!
Both subs are choking in that prefab encloser that entry level skar is no we’re near that Q class man
How do you think this is even close to a fair comparison?
The 2nd woofer didn’t fit in the box
You didn’t have it sealed.
They had different airspace.
Your decibel meter probably doesn’t go over 114.
You were shoving the mic into the speaker.
You can play sine waves with no music to test in the vehicle.
Port noise and SPL are 2 different things.
Pretty sure I forgot 2 other things wrong with this comparison while I typed these out.
Sheesh
You should do a comparison since your so good at it I would actually watch
Ok i was wrong everything was wrong
Skar for the win!!
I have two Skar Audio 12s and a Skar 1200 rms Amp along with 4 Skar 6x8s 4 ohm I'm chillin
The only thing I don't like so far on the skars is the screw holes on the basket don't line up with the holes on the rubber on the top. So taking the screws out your pulling the rubber upwards
Cool video. but what's the box specs compared to what the subs require?
That kicker needs atkeast 1.7 after displacement
I wonder how the longevity difference is. I'd be willing to pay the extra if the higher price is going to outlast the lower priced woofer.
They have ones that are the same price from kicker and skar tho just depends on what quality or series u get. the 10s i just got was 200 a piece for skar
I used to have some 2 12 Comp R Kickers and now im trying out 2 15 SDR Skars
Love the fact you took the time to do this but you just passed on a sub that will kill that skar if you put it in the right box per specs. That is everything to any sub regardless of brand and cost. Now if the decision is based on the box you have then I get it but that compq has a killer low end when in the right box.
Have a comp q 12 on a ct sounds 1000.1 d in a 2.7 box ported at 30 hz.. it smashes the lows so hard i have worried about breaking shit. But it is insane. For q 12 inch sub and it takes that 900 to 1000 all day
If you spend on a Skar sub what you do on Kicker the difference will be huge. (Skar amps are trash) I have a single 12" Skar EVL on a Down4Sound JP13 ,that is a little small really, in the correct box (the box is also wrong for the Skar he has) and it's great. Box, amp, and wiring is every bit as important as the sub you choose. I've made trash sound great with professionally built boxes and quality amps set up correctly.
That KICKER looks just like an ALPINE R SERIES
Correct and long time have been disconnected
People knock on plastic or polyprophylene cones but thats where sql really shines especially on high notes
I'd the mounting depth alot more on the kicker?
Yeah for the price of that skar sub, would go up against comp c...kickers. hands down skar audio👌🏽
KICKERS Q HANDS DOWN BRO
I'm think of the 12" Q with the audio control 800.1 to replace my 2 solo 10's and kicker 1200.1
XFL 10 or 12 over both of these imo
This isn't even close! The Kicker is much nicer. And yes, that's real stitching. Not cheaply made. There's no way you can judge sound on these headphones, though. If that Kicker was mounted right, it wouldn't even be close. It would thump a lot more than you think.
I've had them both. I'm going with the q class.
I have two skar 15's. In total i spent less than $500 on the whole system and it has cracked my back glass more than once
well sure, skar makes some great subs and there are some very heavy hitters at 15" and 18", but these are 10's in a very improper box and skar is more about value with the smaller subs, this is really an unfair comparison. using a cheap plate amp from parts express with an EVL-65 is probably the best diy home theater system you can get but i wouldn't expect any of their 8's to go toe to toe with an 8" q class, even if the ZVX-8 isn't misrepresented in RMS power i still think it would have a hard time beating out the kicker for power and sound quality.
I used to love kicker. But seriously their new products sound like junk
Star SDR sub is not junk it's a great starter sub it just wasn't a fair match up
Lol Skar fanboy much 🤦🏽♂️
@@redman4076 What he said is true Call me a fanboy if you want but I've only owned skar subwoofers. blown one up got a new one through warranty in a week $50 sub producing the loudest bass I and my friends have ever heard. I have since upgraded to the SDR I only have it on one third the wattage it is rated for and i'm very happy with it. Also that was $100 versus a $230 so I would hope that $230 one wins
@@gloomy_-5019 I hear ya if it works for you then bump what YOU like I personally don't care for Skar but that just my opinion there upper line subs are good but I've had bad experiences with the lower tier products But BASS ON homie 👍🏽👊🏽✌🏽💯
That amp is amazing and super affordable i have 2 of them
I got 2 ix-12s, for $50 a piece they are impressive to say the least.
I have two ix 12 also and they’re ok for the price but I’ve broke 2of them on an alpine 500rms and I never have had an issue using the same amp and just swapped from a single Rockford fidgeted p3d4 10 .
Now do Skar Evl Vs Kicker Comp Q😂
Why? The EVL isn't even skars best sub. Let me hear the vxf or zvx vs the comp Q
@@ryanmartin7709 something like that CZcams has a lot of videos on these lol
@Timbo Slice I have a vxf and I do have 2k going to it lol
@Timbo Slice I was gonna go sundown.. I'm just starting out and bought a soundstream tarantula 12 and had a custom box made from gp audio.. I fried the soundstream and wanted a sub with similar box specs as the tarantula. So me and my boy looked around and thought the vxf would fot perfectly and it does, and sounds great. So I didn't have to have a new box built
@Timbo Slice which sucks, because back when the kicker cvr came out they were the shit... had 2 in the back of my jeep cherokee... now, I wouldn't touch them unless they were free lol
This is not even a comparison.... first off skar is a catalog brand AKA as cookie cutter.....no engineering and r/d.... kicker is respected and hated by alot of people but can't deny the quality and performance of their products..... this comp q is a very good sub... Excellent SQ and it's very efficient..... It doesn't miss a beat..... it's musical, I mean I can go on and on..... it's all in the box and If it's built right.... giving it clean power too....
Did u invert the cables with the kicker?
Sound stream t5s idk why but they freaken pound when you give em the power
That comp q would outlive that skar q0 times over take more power and have better lows by far. And it won't blow up I 2 months like that skar will
Yea then compare it to a skar at the same price
You should have ran at 1 ohm it would be perfect for both subs
Hey as some as the driver you choose is "broke in" then I think you will have a better idea of which driver you like 😁👍
Bass is weighted at differently, you need a dBC measurement not a dBA for an accurate measurement
I have 2 sdr 12’s and they’re amazing. All I can say. I’m using the same amp to power them as you also
I ran the CT sounds 2000.1d to two sdr 12s @.5 ohms so it was about 1100 rms to each speaker. It was pretty loud. Smoked them in 5 minutes. Then I put in 2 DC audio level2 12s in the same set up… oh my lord. The SKAR hit the lows the pretty good can’t handle many watts to them. I bet if you threw some real watts to that kicker you would be blown away.
Nice vid BTW!!!
Why did you run 1100 W to each speaker that’s Insta fail. They are. 600 W speakers man what a waste of money. What were you thinking.
Sdr are rated for 600 not 1000 Watt Bro where you live at let me ride down the road with my evil 12s in my 2000 watts and I'll rattle your whole freaking house
The red mat on the Skar sub is called a spider. It’s the red carpet like stuff under the cone
No comparison Kicker is Better Quality and "Skar" is decent love both but Kicker takes the win for longevity and durability.
These subs aren't similar at all. The Kicker does have more. If you had 4-6 Sdr vs the 4-6 Kicker, the Kicker would win in Spl. I have 2 Skar vxf 12s, but it is a whole different level than the Sdr. Something might be wrong with the way you set it up.
I have a vxf 12 in a big custom aero ported box and it gets real loud probably around 145db or even 150 it is the perfect single 12 setup for me
This is not a good comparison at all. You have a sub that cost 100 bucks vs one that is almost 400. At least compare with evl
I love kicker but I just ordered a 12inch SDR 1200watt 600watt RMS sub. For my small Saab 9-5 Arc turbo
The old 90's kickers with the gold logo did bump pretty good when I had some but I will say those kickers solo barics really had some balls heard some 8 inch and man they can get down back in the days now I've seen a video on those new kickers and in sound quality they say they aren't the best that's not my opinion that's just a video I saw
There’s no way that Skar sounds better at all.. maybe if you’d get a custom box built to each sub and did a review after you’d have a way different opinion. That kicker is being choked in that prefab box and wasn’t getting a good seal.
Only reason would be if the kicker has lighter moving mass and a big spider. Robot Underground on CZcams can tell you why. Skar does use aluminum formers on both copper and aluminum voicecoils.
Skar King
Skarbadge rebranded cookie cutter junk HIGH failure rate on there whole line up of gear
Place the kicker into a box that will handle that sub facing the other way, or you can run the phase reverse so the speaker works properly in the box up side down.
Mounting a sub inverted doesn't necessarily mean it will be out of phase with the rest of the speakers in the system.
The maximum wattage is normally twice the RMS although maximum or Peak means absolutely nothing I don't know what you need that specification for the only one that really counts is the RMS that's why the kicker has that rating because it's a legitimate Honest Company that's been around much longer than Skar guaranteed no matter which one you pick and I did not watch the video yet the Skar will not last as long.
That kicker is a way better sub. Once broken in it'll be louder. The spider is stiffer compared to the soft suspension on the skar. Put both in the optimum enclosure and then do the test.
It depends on if u got the right stuff
@@phenomfacemob1011 exactly I think it’s 2021 and skar is taking over for me!! I’ve been a kicker mtx jl fan but man skar is the shii!!
That kicker bumps louder.
Team kicker
@@smokeshop1060 team kicker 15 years ago now it’s team skar or sundown
If inverting sub (motor side out), it should be wired out of phase. If anything is gained from inverting subs, it's due to the added volume in the enclosure. (Not losing any volume that the frame and motor would displace, if inside)
why you would you put it out of phase?? better yet how do you wire out of phase? phase is set by your amplifier if it even has the feature. I have 2 Resilient Sounds platinum 15's and they're inverted wired to 1 ohm on an MD8k. they are wired the same way as they were when they were mounted normally
I think they meant wired backwards, as in positive coming from the amp going to negative of the sub, and neg from amp to pos of sub. I've heard that also but never knew how true it was but have been told by old timers that I've if your going to run the sub backwards like that, you need to reserve your polarities so that it's pushing and not pulling or vice-versa, ive never known how true that is or isn't though... but have always wondered myself actually..
Have the skar 10 1000watt paid about $150 ish. Paired with skar 1200 watt amp. But I do have 4x kicker 6 1\4 in my doors. Pioneer head.
Pioneer makes a great sounding head unit kicker makes great speakers Skar is garbage
I have a single q class 12 on a 1000 watt amp and I love it I'm not arguing everyone has what they like and that's the way it should be it's super punchy shakes my dodge ram more than I'd like but I love bass but the tight responsive bass not the boomy bass it's my preference and the kicker q class gives me what I enjoy. My brother loves skar he likes the sound and swears by them but we both agree each others set up is bad ass
Kicker for the win 100%
I've owned just about every brand and model of sub since the early 90's and skar is legit. I got 4-15 zvx's that will rip your head off and sound good doing it. I've owned a kicker 18 solo x and also have had 4-15 kicker solo barics while still good they've just lacked in impact and sq.
How about kicker l7 15s
Rockford fosgates are suppost to be the best
@@nickolasvaughn265 They're ok but from from the best.
@@normhiscock352 I just ordered 2 america bass 12 inch subs what you think of them they have good reviews people say best bass for your buck it was 410$
Definitely. Hands down the days of spending 1000s for good stuff is over ..
Question: Is the Kicker brand new out the box? If so, is this your first time playing it? I ask because what a lot of people don’t know about Kicker subs, is that they have to go through a break-in period. Straight out the box, they’re not going to sound their best. Trust me, once they’ve reached their break-in period, the bass is much deeper and more crisp.
I had a pair of L7 15" they fuckin rockT sum punk stole them ive been MAD as hell for over ten years
ALL subs have a break in time.
@@scottcooksey5284 yeah my solobarics took bout 3weeks before they broke welds along roof rails an windshield
I used to love kicker now I love skar they hit hard in the right box
The Comp Q has a die-cast aluminum alloy basket - not stamped steel.
If you Put the kicker in the right box it would sound like a 15 too
I should have just got another box that fit the kicker also. They both hit way above their prices.
@@kammarh1 also to get the speaker to sound like it was inside the box you would have had to run it reverse polarity.
no you wouldn’t
@@kammarh1 so in order to do an accurate comparison, you would have needed to put each sub in their recommended enclosure and if you are going to put the sub inverted, it would be better to put the speaker wire that was coming from the amp to the speaker instead of using the wire in the box. also fyi the comp q is better suited for sq not spl like the skar subs, the comp q is a better rival to the jl that you took out .
$90 sub vs a $200 sub..no comparison.. just curious what amp are use using...
did u watch the video?
Kickers been around since the 70's.
The kicker design just looks better...
I used to do Fosgate but now on kicker...their known hit hard.
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