11:40 I mean, maybe I've just stumbled into the wrong channel and you don't do this here, but some testing would be nice? You barely turned on the machine, and didn't test their support one bit. Anybody can say they offer support for Proxmox, but that's just talk until it's tested.
All of our products are heavily tested in-house and must pass very high QA standards. They actually posted testing results from this on their socials. In regard to support, we standby ready and excited for any and all testing in that department!😁
CPU fan seems very loud, as well as chassis fans. This one is definitely enterprise grade, although can be used in some home-labs (with dedicated room).
3:00 - "Standard width SSDs no more than 7mm wide", is sad but understandable limitation That board has extremely nice IPMI listings, seems much better than Asrock Rack...
They should really offer that chassis for 45hl, I know a lot of people including myself who would love to get their hands on it. Nice build btw, it's nice to see Siena boards actually available finally.
I was just wondering when you were also going to release your next video. Just happens I was also wondering when someone would take a look at this device!
what u.3 is 7mm? Actually curious? I would never use any consumer grade SSDs...not even for my desktop. EDIT, nevermind...small 7.68 ones. I'd be wanting 15.36tb min, but preferably 30tb drives.
I'm curious: What would need so much storage in a vm host? You would run out of ram/cpu way before that. With 16 8tb drives in a mirror setup, that's 60TB usable. It already has 100tb nic's if you need that much ssd storage, a dedicated storage server has both better performance and capacity.
45 drives makes some nice stuff - too nice for me :-) I do have a bunch of Supermicro boxes now, and I'd say 45 Drives stuff is built much nicer, but the supermicro motherboards are gold. This one is a nice standalone or edge compute box due to those NIC's - which I'm betting are very difficult to saturate but I'd be willing to try. But Ceph is where you want to be with proxmox as a distributed SAN is crazy powerful - I have four nodes now in my ceph cluster for about 80TB of total storage available to all the nodes, and 7 "small" cluster nodes in HA configuration for lower-power Docker images, 1 "big" server box that honestly could run it all but would be hot and power hungry so it's just running large-memory tasks where 512GB of RAM is useful. And one AI server with quad 4060 ti's and whole lot of CPU and a power bill to match. But none of the main compute servers have much of local storage, it's all on ceph or various NFS/CMB mounted NAS boxes. It's just awesome to be able to reboot a box or take it down for maintenance and ... nothing happens. No impact. Maybe a brief pause as the VM's shuffle a bit and come up on another box. I could run Kubernetes across the cluster and have "many 9's" uptime, but I haven't needed or had time for that yet. Maybe soon!
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only gripe I have with this is the 16x extension cable its not up to pcie 4.0 spec even. Wish they would have opted for a 16x slot which gets conencted via the same MCIO Cables as the backplane for the Drives. It saves on money it is esier to maintain should another cable be needed and they already need to buy the cable anyway. Overall would have been a better souloution which is easier to cable manage
@@2GuysTek They don't even need to engineer that much theres already of the shelf risers available with the propper counterpart for the PCIE slot. Maybe a bit of placement adjustment. But it should not be a big deal. Also would allow for 2x8 lanes if you grab a differen riser and use pcie bifurcation.
Proxmox one node? so need downtime for updates / reboots? But vmware is dieing with the new ownership and they removed an lot of hardware from the driver list.
design choice with the power/reset button on the rear? We would never be able to use this in all of our colos or customer sites for production. Is the GPU power redundant?
Don't forget the IPMI, that's really how you'd manage it remotely in both your colos or customer sites. I'm not 100% sure on the GPU power redundancy, I'll check with @45drives about it, but based on how the midplane power board is setup, I'd say yes - confirmation TBD though.
Interesting. I posted a comment before and now it's gone. This isn't an enterprise solution that will scale. It seems like a small business or prosumer solution.
I dont understand what is great about. The chassis may look great, but this cannot compeat with any Server from Dell/HP even something like a Selfbuild rs520a-e12-rs12u or 24u. Proxmox is Amazing, but Proxmox has no working Numa, which is Critical for Enterprise. (There is the Option for Numa, but it never worked). Another thing is, that Proxmox has Amazing Enterprise Support and i would definitively Prefer direct support from Proxmox which develops the Software and have better understanding of, instead of 45Drives. Im sorry but this Video is either extremely Sponsored, or you are an extreme Fanboy of 45 Drives. So its simply missleading. Im not against the Company, 45Drives has great Products. Im just against this Video. Cheers
Dude your wearing a hat indoors.......... can anyone take you seriously. And that thing is way overkill, 99% of people will never want that......... and again enterprise, using ProxMox mmmmmm no.
I really enjoy your videos however I've been working in the enterprise data center space for over twenty years. We have conversations with multi billion dollar organizations no one is talking about deploying Proxmox. All I hear is Hyper-V due to most orgs already having an EA in place with MS. Also, this has accelerated a migration to services like AWS, Azure, GCP, and AWS. Like I always say learn skills that translate to making money meaning don't waste time on products like Proxmox focus on Vmware, Hyper-V, and clound technologies.
Yo this thing is actually sick
So sick
@@RaidOwl I love your channel too!
Let's hope they forgot about accidently inviting you so you can check this thing out :)
so sick like ne-yo
Impossible, when it's slick! So very healthy. Didn't you heard it coughing, right? Only Marvelous buzz.
11:40 I mean, maybe I've just stumbled into the wrong channel and you don't do this here, but some testing would be nice? You barely turned on the machine, and didn't test their support one bit. Anybody can say they offer support for Proxmox, but that's just talk until it's tested.
All of our products are heavily tested in-house and must pass very high QA standards. They actually posted testing results from this on their socials. In regard to support, we standby ready and excited for any and all testing in that department!😁
@45Drives is awesome!
We think you're awesome!
Hopefully they sell them like hot cakes and make Proxmox even better.
Oh you better start selling this case individually, 45Drives
I wish we could get this in a home lab version. I think it's super slick.. I just can't afford it for home lab...
Need a 10" rack version for like $999 :)
I'm sure @45drives is listening, so who knows?
@@JeffGeerling YESSSSSSS
@@2GuysTek @jeffgeerling @LTZAK We're always listening 😉
CPU fan seems very loud, as well as chassis fans. This one is definitely enterprise grade, although can be used in some home-labs (with dedicated room).
3:00 - "Standard width SSDs no more than 7mm wide", is sad but understandable limitation
That board has extremely nice IPMI listings, seems much better than Asrock Rack...
They should really offer that chassis for 45hl, I know a lot of people including myself who would love to get their hands on it. Nice build btw, it's nice to see Siena boards actually available finally.
Damn this is awesome! Though I wish it had support for full-width spindle HDDs.
This is awesome. Man I wish I could get one.
Love watching videos of hardware that will be obsolete before I could ever afford it
I was just wondering when you were also going to release your next video. Just happens I was also wondering when someone would take a look at this device!
Would love too see it fully maxed
what u.3 is 7mm? Actually curious? I would never use any consumer grade SSDs...not even for my desktop. EDIT, nevermind...small 7.68 ones. I'd be wanting 15.36tb min, but preferably 30tb drives.
I'm curious: What would need so much storage in a vm host? You would run out of ram/cpu way before that. With 16 8tb drives in a mirror setup, that's 60TB usable.
It already has 100tb nic's if you need that much ssd storage, a dedicated storage server has both better performance and capacity.
45 drives makes some nice stuff - too nice for me :-) I do have a bunch of Supermicro boxes now, and I'd say 45 Drives stuff is built much nicer, but the supermicro motherboards are gold. This one is a nice standalone or edge compute box due to those NIC's - which I'm betting are very difficult to saturate but I'd be willing to try. But Ceph is where you want to be with proxmox as a distributed SAN is crazy powerful - I have four nodes now in my ceph cluster for about 80TB of total storage available to all the nodes, and 7 "small" cluster nodes in HA configuration for lower-power Docker images, 1 "big" server box that honestly could run it all but would be hot and power hungry so it's just running large-memory tasks where 512GB of RAM is useful. And one AI server with quad 4060 ti's and whole lot of CPU and a power bill to match. But none of the main compute servers have much of local storage, it's all on ceph or various NFS/CMB mounted NAS boxes. It's just awesome to be able to reboot a box or take it down for maintenance and ... nothing happens. No impact. Maybe a brief pause as the VM's shuffle a bit and come up on another box. I could run Kubernetes across the cluster and have "many 9's" uptime, but I haven't needed or had time for that yet. Maybe soon!
The setup is solid, but I do wish it could accommodate 15mm U.3 drives.
Nice kit. Heck the IPMI interface looks modern and soft compared to Proxmox. Isn't it time for a refresh Proxmox? I dunno, I'm coming from vSphere 8.
Nice one...
Is this a a custom built for only you?
Cause in their website, the CPU is not on the 8004 AMD EPYC series, nor does it have dual PSUs etc.
Not a sponsored video, but sounds like an add.
YESS YESSS !!!!!
Did anyone see pricing mentioned?
nope. And I swish they had pricing for their setup ( 11:36 )
Great! Where i can buy It in Italy?
❤❤
Wicked Cool!
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a house or building, together with its land and outbuildings, occupied by a business or considered in an official context.
"business premises"
premise - noun
a previous statement or proposition from which another is inferred or follows as a conclusion.
pricing?
You'll have to get in contact with @45Drives to build out a system and get it quoted.
Mmm no price then. Might reuse my Dell VxRail kit for free..
only gripe I have with this is the 16x extension cable its not up to pcie 4.0 spec even.
Wish they would have opted for a 16x slot which gets conencted via the same MCIO Cables as the backplane for the Drives.
It saves on money it is esier to maintain should another cable be needed and they already need to buy the cable anyway. Overall would have been a better souloution which is easier to cable manage
Seeing as how they built this case, I would imagine a person could probably engineer a replace 16x PCIe slot, MCIO cable, etc. to fit.
@@2GuysTek They don't even need to engineer that much theres already of the shelf risers available with the propper counterpart for the PCIE slot.
Maybe a bit of placement adjustment. But it should not be a big deal.
Also would allow for 2x8 lanes if you grab a differen riser and use pcie bifurcation.
Proxmox one node? so need downtime for updates / reboots?
But vmware is dieing with the new ownership and they removed an lot of hardware from the driver list.
Proxmox can do multi node. The question is whether the company credit card can or whether that’s relevant.
@@MiesvanderLippe I know that but this install is only node
Nice
design choice with the power/reset button on the rear? We would never be able to use this in all of our colos or customer sites for production. Is the GPU power redundant?
Don't forget the IPMI, that's really how you'd manage it remotely in both your colos or customer sites. I'm not 100% sure on the GPU power redundancy, I'll check with @45drives about it, but based on how the midplane power board is setup, I'd say yes - confirmation TBD though.
meh this was just a commercial
premises*
@craftcomputing is this your brainchild that you’ve been hinting at?
Not an appliance, yet!
Can’t watch these videos. I can never afford these storinators. Sigh
Are you looking for Enterprise storage? Or HomeLab storage?
Power button on the back!? Why??
Especially when the GPU ports are on the front...
Interesting. I posted a comment before and now it's gone. This isn't an enterprise solution that will scale. It seems like a small business or prosumer solution.
I saw that too. CZcams doing CZcams things I guess. I check the filter and your message wasn’t caught up in it. I’m glad you reposted your comment!
Agreed, it's like calling Unifi switches Enterprise. They aren't. They're prosumer at best. Just like this server.
I dont understand what is great about. The chassis may look great, but this cannot compeat with any Server from Dell/HP even something like a Selfbuild rs520a-e12-rs12u or 24u.
Proxmox is Amazing, but Proxmox has no working Numa, which is Critical for Enterprise. (There is the Option for Numa, but it never worked).
Another thing is, that Proxmox has Amazing Enterprise Support and i would definitively Prefer direct support from Proxmox which develops the Software and have better understanding of, instead of 45Drives.
Im sorry but this Video is either extremely Sponsored, or you are an extreme Fanboy of 45 Drives. So its simply missleading.
Im not against the Company, 45Drives has great Products. Im just against this Video.
Cheers
Dude your wearing a hat indoors.......... can anyone take you seriously. And that thing is way overkill, 99% of people will never want that......... and again enterprise, using ProxMox mmmmmm no.
I really enjoy your videos however I've been working in the enterprise data center space for over twenty years. We have conversations with multi billion dollar organizations no one is talking about deploying Proxmox. All I hear is Hyper-V due to most orgs already having an EA in place with MS. Also, this has accelerated a migration to services like AWS, Azure, GCP, and AWS. Like I always say learn skills that translate to making money meaning don't waste time on products like Proxmox focus on Vmware, Hyper-V, and clound technologies.