1000 Years! - Sturminster Newton Water Mill
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- Diana Tigwell and Peter Loosmore take a fascinating look into the workings of Sturminster Newton water mill, which has existed at this location for 1000 years (as of 2016).
We take a detailed look at how the mill is operated from opening up the water supply to doing some milling and then closing down again at the end of the day. Along the way we look at the individual machines and processes through which the raw materials that make flour must go, before it is ready to make into products such as bread.
Step Back in Time TV would like to thank Sturminster Museum & Mill - www.sturminsternewton-museum.c... for enabling us to make this film.
We would particularly like to thank Peter Loosmore and Tony Brandon for giving up several Saturdays and undertaking some heavy maintenance work, in order for us to film the workings of this mill in detail.
We are planning more in this series covering the history and the inner workings of the machines at Sturminster Mill, and other mills.
Thank you for watching.
Production Team:
Giles Warham
Clare Hooper
Diana Tigwell
With special thanks to our volunteer crew, who make the production process efficient and a lot of fun.
NB. This took over 30 hours to upload! (1.4Gb) ... BWK Devon, UK Really needs faster Internet! (Especially UP speeds ... Currently 1mbit :-( ).
nice to see bits of old England that are not over run.
Only nazis uses hate speech like "England"...
That's 2 real weirdo replies!
@Nobby Barnes Doormat
@@hatespeach9835 What was your take on the video, did you watch it?
People today really do not appreciate the skill and technology of our forebears.
I always had the thought that people were more intelligent a few hundred years ago. After doing some research I found this a fact, we have gone backwards. There are far too many reasons to list here but it's true.
@@chrisneedham5803 People are just as intelligent now as they were then, and probably more so since we have better nutrition. Mr. Loosmore mastered the operation of the mill, how it was constructed, and its lore in 20 years. He certainly knows a lot more about a lot of other things as well. The olde time millers only knew that mill. The men at the foundry only knew how to cast those parts. They were good at it, but it's all they knew. I doubt any of them ever had a physics class.
@@johnmcmahon5225 ......... Thanks for your answer. I'm not doubting Mr Loosmore's intelligence. I'm talking generally and we have in fact gone backwards, this is mainly due to the end of Darwinian selection because of better nutrition. People had to plan their lives better to survive, so people chose the most successful mate. There are groups of people nowadays that have children and they grow up and they also have children. But a couple of hundred years ago these children would have died young. There are many many other reasons, but the general population in the western world has gone backwards.
Chris, Most people in agricultural societies like the one around that mill never traveled more than a few miles from where they were born, so they reproduced with who was available in their small community that was in their social class, and was acceptable to their family. In villages of any kind, everyone is related to each other. In the case of peasants growing wheat for the mill, the most desirable mate was a fecund woman or a man who could do hard physical work. Intelligence wasn't a factor, even for the upper classes. If a man was intelligent, he became a priest, and didn't reproduce at all. People back then were very superstitious/religious because they had so little control over planning their lives. If the wheat crop didn't come in for any reason, they were done.
We, with our modern technology and cnc machining, are truly standing on the shoulders of giants.
What a fantastic old fellow
How can anyone dislike such an interesting show? I thought it was absolutely fascinating! Kudos to everyone involved in both the Mill and the production of this video!
A wonderful and informative video, and to have an interviewer that actually knows what she is talking about is a huge bonus, long may this Mill continue.
Yes, she is terrific. Knowledgeable and a perfect guide. :-)
She's a really good interviewer. She is able to bring out the details in the discussion. Well done. Ronn
Bless Your Heart, Peter!!! Your A National Treasure! Gods Speed, You Fine Gentleman!!!💕💓❤️😘
excellent video on all the workings of this mill, thanks
What a delightful man he seems.
What a fabulous little window into the past. Very well explained and delivered. Thanks all.
Fabulous and informative video ,and so nice to see the documented records .
He could not have explained this process any simpler and clearer than he did. I'm very glad I spent the time to watch this wonderful video. Just amazing.
I can't get enough of this stuff.. Thank you..
Such innovative ancestors! It’s the reason why we are here today!
Thank you so much for your very enlightening presentation.
Loved this amazing mill...
A wonderful piece of "modern" human history. Our ancestors were so much more cleverer that many of we 21st Century humans, utilising a renewable energy source such as the river. Can we learn something from this? Thank you to all concerned with producing this video.
Wonderful. Thanks for the upload of this Marvell of Engineering
Fascinating bit of technology from a long ago time. Thank you for the detailed look about.
So enjoyed this wonderful tour of the mill. Amazing!
Thank you for your kind comments, and thank you for watching.
I enjoyed the video very much and wondering whom is standing in the window to the left at 4:45?
Fascinating...it's amazing the amount of thought and engineering that's been put into this place and it's still working...all delivered with an excellent running commentary...thank's Peter.!
A really enjoyable and well done presentation from both the interviewer and the miller. Thanks!
Thank you for a most remarkable reminder of human ingenuity, pride and workmanship.
It is a great place to visit and such a scenic setting.
thank you so much for this video! my grandfather used to work in a mill in north Carolina, so it's nice to know how the mills worked. Their's was a water wheel, although the old mill here in our town used a turbine wheel just like the one at Sturminster. Thank you for bringing history alive to us!
Where is this mill location.
@@garrywright7535 gary, the mill in our town that was turbine was Ringgold mill in Clarksville, TN. I did my best to try to save the old mill & get funding & SPOOM(society for the preservation of old mills) involved, but the owners were not interested in it. They have since torn down the mill, although the foundations of the original mill are still there along w/the old dam. The really old mill was called Gallegos mill & had a water wheel installed. That mill burned down in the 1800's. The one my grandfather worked in was in greensborough, north Carolina. That mill is no longer standing either.
We have a grist mill in the town of Sudbury, close to Marlboro Mass,. this is also a working mill and a great place to enjoy a weekend. A big thanks to all the folks that dedicate their time to these wonderful places of our past.
@waltham1957, I am helping restore the old stone mill in Rhode Island. Would be very grateful to see your mill and hear any advice you can offer!
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Fascinating historical display. I always tell my grandchildren that early inventors and engineers (a thousand years and more years ago) were just as smart as we and much more observant of the natural world. Thanks for the demonstration and walk through the mmill. -- Dave Hegmann
What a wonderful documentary !
Thanks for making it.
Wow, what a fantastic piece of living history.!! What impresses me is that all of those simple but then again not so simple mechanisms had to be first thought up in someone's mind and then built to fit with other mechanisms. i call that engineering of the finest sort. Thank you for giving us this great video..!!
That was some amazing engineering for back in the day.
TOTALLY FASCINATING !!
Simply wonderful...thanks!
I could watch things like this all day, wonderful video, thank you very much.
Absolutely fabulous.
Thank You for posting this vid, I learned more about milling in 37 min 50 seconds , than in 58 years of a lifetime, , makes flour more valuable to me now than ever.
One of the best videos on CZcams. 5* for content, presentation and delivery!
thankyou for posting this and explaining the workings of this lovely old mill,,,i was there today ,,and walked across ,,the weir bridge ,,,,there was two lovely swans and four cignets ,,,,lovely place .
Thanks for the magnificent tour of the mill. I learned alot.
Great video, 1000 years, wow.
Really enjoyed that. My 8 year old and I fount it very interesting. Thanks for the tour!
Excellent educational show...Thank you:)))
Wow that was incredible, thank you so much for sharing this. Your friend from Canada
Beautiful machine, beautifully presented.
Great video. Great man for the job. Literally everything is gravity-powered (how free and clean is that), including the river water pushing down and into the turbine blades. Was very impressed with the Sack Hoist design! I'm trying to think of a non-mill application for such a device even if the power came from an electric motor.
Love seeing how things were done just by hand .
That opening shot , the power of a mill race.
That was very well explained, any photographs of your grandfather, bet he could tell us about the fish around the mill, boys fishing, horse and cart coming down that slope etc what a picture. thank you both enjoyed that. wonder if they ever had a cloud of flour dust ignite back in the day.
If they had have had that happen half or more of the mill wouldn't be there anymore or the place would show a rebuilt mill. Flour dust is extremely explosive and has a great deal of power when conditions are right apparently.
Diana and peter, two excellent presenters. And one can see Peter really loves what he is doing. It is not just a -job- for him. And I hope Diana got a REAL packet of flour as present. looked very light to me for a 5 pound bag?
The real relevance of such historical sites is that after the apocalypse -- if any humans manage to survive -- this allegedly "primitive" technology is precisely what will keep us alive.
What apocalypse? I do not recall a apocalypse in Yahs Word.
This mill will only make flour for a few hundred at best. A far cry from being able to feed those still alive and needing flour. Don't you think?
@@rickdees251 What I suspect -- this given the projected loss of about 95 percent of the human population -- is most human habitations will be no larger than typical medieval villages. (Remember the post-imperial population of the city of Rome, about 1.2 million at the height of the empire, was down to only about 20,000 people at the height of the Dark Ages.) These villages will be sustained by agriculture, animal husbandry, hunting-and-gathering plus cottage industries such as weaving, blacksmithing, tool-making, pottery-making, bow-and-arrow making, gunsmithing etc., and -- again based on the examples of post-Roman history -- some radically modified, most-simple-design-possible variations of present-day technology. One of these -- because of its minimal requirements in terms of radically scarce natural resources -- is spark telegraphy; another is the balloon and the lighter-than-air vessel; a third is the printing press.
Also don't forget that high tech requires electricity, but electricity requires wiring -- and within a few years after the collapse, with most of the power sources dead, nearly all the wire will have been salvaged for arrow heads. Nor is there anything mystical about these predictions; they are all based either on present-day scientific predictions or on applications of post-collapse Roman history.
Quoth Winston Churchill: "Britannia had been active part of a world state; England was once again a barbarian island...Its inhabitants had rejoiced in well-planned cities, with temples, markets, academies. They had nourished craftsmen and merchants, professors of literature and rhetoric. For four hundred years there had been law and order, respect for property and a widening culture. All had vanished. The buildings, such as they were, were of wood, not stone. The people had lost entirely the art of writing..." ("A History of the English Speaking People", Vol. I, Page 70; Dodd, Mead and Co., New York: 1956.) I cite Churchill because while every historian describes the totality of the post-Roman collapse -- the still-unfolding consequences of which may yet bring about our extinction -- Churchill's paragraph offers what is probably the most vivid portrait ever written of its true magnitude.)
Anyway, again we as a species owe infinite gratitude for those who are preserving precisely those human technologies that function without electricity, because in today's world, electricity is always the first casualty; without functioning governments, electricity will never be restored: witness Puerto Rico. In fact we can't even fuel our vehicles without electricity. And yes, I know of what I speak; I lived entire summers without electricity, telephones or running water when I was a boy, and have survived several de-electrification disasters as an adult. How? Not hard -- even at sub-zero temperatures -- when you have well water, gardens, wood-burning stoves, lamp oil, a river to fish, fields and forests to hunt and a neighbor's horses to get you to town and back.
@@lorenbliss
That's why I use hand tools almost exclusively for woodworking...
Gotta keep them skills alive...
Comes the apocalypse, ahmageddin' rich...
Hopefully you find a Miller to show you all how it works 😂😂
Wow I love all this kind of thing -AND Sturminster Newton is only a few miles from me here, so I will pay them a visit ! = )
Magnificent. In 1992 I passed the mill on a massive cycling tour (solo)/ I photographed it but had to move on. I was only looking at the image last year and had forgotten where the was. Of course it is in my diary, but that is packed away at the moment. Now I know what I saw.:-)
love the way she refers to the gears as the diff ( differential of course) good knowledge.
Except that its not a diff.
A simple thumbs up hardly seems sufficient. What a wonderful video and experience. I absolutely love the industrial history of the U.K.. 1000 years old and still operational. Absolutely amazing!
I’m curious if there is or was a narrowboat wharf at the mill?
Thanks so much and cheers to you all.
Mill it and through for nearly a thousy years? Wonderflode - deep joy!
That was amazing video and Diana you are a lovely lady.
What a pleasant and charming man.
This is absolutely fabulous a really use of physics
Intricately interesting and highly informative. Living history in a real working non polluting energy efficient environment. Bet the flour makes wonderful bread!
Hi Peter , thanks for the demonstration of the mill .
I used to go to the market , and explore the mill , as my father was a miller at Wareham mill , which had wheels and a turbine .
Unfortunately the owner , Jack Bags , gave the brass bearings to the war effect ! ! wrecking the mill !
We farmed at Claudell Farm on the Rempstone estate . Jim Simpson
Very interesting and educational.
Love love love this.
thank you ,i enjoyed this, from newfoundland
We need these mills, one day after the end. Yes, they'll be needed again.
I like your view. The end of STEM. The return of the native.
Non sense; old technology is gone forever, however it is good to preserve our history !
@@markspc1 So you say. Actually I hate to inform you that new technology generally overlays older technology, seldom making it "gone".
I'm in the United States, but love history from anyplace. One thing I would like to know more about is the mill in Mapledurham. I do know it was used in part as a setting for the movie 'The Eagle Has Landed' that was from WWII. It was also used as the album cover for Black Sabbath's first album.
Amazing !!
Loved, loved, loved.... I could watch this all day long!!!
fabulous !
And evidently still producing, impressive. Slow and steady, still winnowing the race! :D
Very interesting and the age of the equipment wow.
Wonderful
Very Interesting indeed , in an episode of " Our House " the house remodeling show , they show a water powered " Lumber Mill , powered pretty much the same way , except it's powered by a water paddle , pully drive system , was from the 1800's , on the East Coast , maybe Penn. New England , 3 story's tall , built over a river , bottom floor is the piping , valves , paddle wheels and drivers belts that extend thru the floor boards of the 2nd and 3 rd floors , the 2nd floor is where the various saws operate , 3rd floor is where the driver belt pulleys are to switch to the various saws when needed to operate , table saws such as circular saws , band saws , planers, all hydro-power, Mill sits in a once completely forested area , the WHOLE PACKAGE for the last 150 years . . . A Must See !
that was great thanks so much !!!!
Awesome
Amazing, thank you.
great job i learned a lot
very interesting
Reminds me of a friend of mine's house in North Jersey who bought an Old Mill and turned it into the most gorgeous house shame that it doesn't or doesn't get used as Emil anymore but sure is a beautiful house
Undershot wheels, much less power, but at least a dependable river... brilliant
lovely English people! greetings from Rotterdam!
We live in an old French turbine mill and know I know how it worked...thank you.
"crown" on pully, flat belts tend to climb to highest point. ..they do have to be lined up fairly well also.
Just try and keep anything built today running for a thousand years. You would be lucky if it hit one hundred!
The sort of robust construction needed to keep things lasting a thousand years is obscenely expensive, just look at the size of this mills gears at 9:55, and just all for 24 horse power! Meanwhile the 200 horses in your car don't need anything nearly so big and costly to transmit power. When modern people need that sort of robustness, we can still do it, the central structure of hoover damn for instance is projected to last ten thousand.
What we do now can't hold a candle to the ingenuity and dedication that was required. If I was this guy, I'd have thrown her out of my Millery after three minutes.
Well it's good news not too many a holes like you.
And make an enemy. I guess you have no fiends. Oh well.
What a strange, cruel and wholly unjustified comment. Simply attention seeking I suppose?
We have a grain mill near where I grew up..Built in the 1840's (about_) only one of 2 or 3 still operating in Ohio.The Miller was a Vietnam vet who bought it for his own rehabilitation after the war.He knew NOTHING about being a miller and went to Europe to learn..The mill still has the original french made mill stones and is a turbine style water powered.. THAT mill was so important back in the civil war at supplying grain to the union troops that Lincoln had a company of union soldiers sent to guard it against any southern attack since it was rather close to the line..
This woman sounds like an engineer.
She's very clever, she invented the 'pork chop' or something I was told.
Undershot, overshot, backshot and breast. The most effective vertical wheel is a backshot with a reservoir providing additional power from a breastshot penstock. These were very common in Cornwall and some were still providing power well into the 20th Century
193 likes seems to be very small for this elegant video.
Poritre in Motion, thanks to all
I think it also interesting that people ingested some of the mill stones. I wonder if that was a beneficial mineral in those days?
@Supernumerary Yarbles yes roughage is good for people. Eggshells are good for chickens. But is bits of stone good for people to ingest? It MAY be. We need minerals in our diet. I wonder if those stones had much lime in them. Lime is a form of alkaline so it would tend to be good for people.
I read that the blue corn that was eaten by the Pueblo Indians years ago had to have ash mixed in to help break down the complex starches otherwise they could not digest. it. They made it by putting the the dough in wood fires which contained ash. They were not aware that by doing so they were making it edible for themselves.
I thought maybe there is something about the stone that helped people's diets back in merry old England a thousand years ago.
Those are two big chunks of granite, and incredibly hard. They were precisely matched when they were installed, and so when in use they wouldn't really be contacting each other, there might be a tiny bit of stone dust, but it would be so little as to be unnoticable. You wouldn't start grinding flour if the stones were still grinding against one another as it would kill your efficiency and the goal was maximum throughput per hour.
A millstone will last about 80 years of professional use, so the amount of wear they experience is almost negligible.
I must say that "firing up" a water mill doesn't sound right. Otherwise how fascinating!
The belt staying on the wheels, due to conservation of momentum, the belt wants to go straight on as it comes into contact with the wheel. The wheel forces it to accelerate in a radially inwards direction (centripetal) to match the angular velocity of the wheel which wants to throw it outwards (centrifugal). The crown means the centre of the rim has the highest angular velocity and so the belt tends to get thrown to the centre of the rim.
No doubt a phrase originating from the advent of steam power.
Yeah, that's what I was gonna say ... hurumph....
Indeed the heat of the meat multiplied by angle of the dangle gives you the mass of the ass...
12 ignorant people disliked this amazing video!
Let's ignore them; every one else does.
I think they were in such a hurry to hit the like button that they missed it. I was a very cool video.
Up to 18 now
I'll never understand why people dislike things like this. It's showing 24 now.
and 46.000 looked at the video and didn't give a fuck haha
Quality English engineering
Back in 1976.
I was in the Wales, UK.
Met a chap who had renovated a water mill.
After the first year running on water he cut the drive shaft with a chain saw.
Powered the Mill with a diesel engine.
Cheaper then the ridicules bill from the water board for water usage.
Maybe things have changed?
Why would the mill be charged for water it didn't consume?
Is peter still with us and at the mill?
I'm just here because of an article saying this mill is reopening after corona
that old guy is great, love the way he explains everything, she's not so good, i don't think she even understood what he was talking about.. i loved that old mill, great watching all those belts going around all the pulleys, makes me want to go out and buy some stone ground flour and bake my own bread.. water power forever !!
Seems to me there would have clutch's that are lever controlled to shut down the sections that aren't used until needed, to keep from running all those pulleys...which would save on belts and gear parts...just a thought.
@@kennynvake4hve584 they did not have clutches and gears. BUT what they did, they knew at the beginning of the workday what they will do and need, just take off the belts from the wheels and then start the rest that was needed.
I would suggest that "she" related very well to what was said, and clearly enjoyed herself.
Amazing...there is only one thing I dont understand...how does the stones that grind the final flour keep from rubbing together and putting that small amount of powder stone into the final flour?
Quite o,man you see it does put a bit of stone in the flower...
The miller doesn't want the stones to wear prematurely so they're spaced to touch but not have 'weight' on them. The inertia of the heavy stones do the grinding without deflection.
Edmund Ironside (c. 990 - 30 November 1016) was King of England from 23 April to 30 November 1016.
Which kind of Turbine is that? I know a similar Turbine, it’s in german called HAAG Turbine
The mill start working again