What Is Introverted Thinking? (Ti) | Cognitive Functions | CS Joseph
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- What is Introverted Thinking (TI)? CS Joseph continues discussing the cognitive functions.
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My ESTP daughter is so cute. I figured her out when she was really young. When she was old enough to read and understand, I told her, "Okay smarty, I am still Mom. You have to do what I say, unless I ask you to sin. But it's your responsibility to learn what sin is first." She took that and ran. Her conscience is solid, developed, and she has always been confident in telling me, very politely cutely enough, when she thinks I'm wrong. And I have always honored her words, and when she's right, honored her objection. As an INFJ mom, she's been a blast to raise.
We didn't have the ti, te, fi, fe vocabulary so I used words that fit our lifestyle. But the concept was the same.
@@jellyfishi_ Finally someone has put my thoughts into words
That's Genius and Wonderful. I'm gonna do that when I start raising a child.
Very cute
I get the sense the Ti is gullible toward believing assertions that are "more logically consistent." But just because something is illogical and doesn't make sense based on the available information, doesn't mean it's not true. By the same token, just because something makes complete logical sense based on the available information doesn't mean that it is true, because there could be factors contributing to the truth that are completely impossible to know at that point.
agreed
I love thisss!!!
Lol totally mind fuck. How can we claim we really know the truth and are really logical?
@@seetsamolapo5600
We don't claim truth but consistence
And we can use logic, you just need Te users to give you a boarder view of the subject you're talking about so that you don't fall into weird areas the comment above suggests
I think making an assertion based on the information available at the time is the most logical and efficient thing to do. New information can literally always be presented since we cannot know what is not known. Since the concept of "new information possibly showing up" is a factor that is a consistent possibility, it is not "gullible" to believe what is more logically consistent at the time. The alternative, based on your logic, would be to sit there in perpetual indecision waiting for the possibility of new information being presented. - signed, Ti protected by Fe
My favourite thing to say as a Ti parent user is "facts don't care about you feeling". and it's true
But your Fe child find that fact can potentially hurting other people(as based on some Si experience in the past), better find another way to explaining it using Ne.
Actually its more of a te hero kind of thing. For a ti its more : "logic trumps all, including your half assed research on facts that are actually true, or your personal feelings"
I dated an ESTP and have seen real examples of what you're explaining and can confirm it is accurate. He got himself into trouble in college, with traffic tickets, and with every job he has had due to testing and bending rules. Most of the time he'd end up talking his way out of it and end up joking around with the person trying to write him up. The Persuader is an accurate label for him.
Sounds exactly like my ISTP brother. It’s amazing to watch them wiggle out of trouble. Lol
I respect you Chase. I’m in tears right now because you have helped me piece this all together and now i have clarity. I understand myself like never before. Thank you! Thank you! THANK YOU!!!!!
You've added so much value in my life, i can finally consciously arrange and align the pawns around me, to serve my purpose with great efficiency.
Are you an INTJ because I think I'm falling in love with your statement - ENTP
that's my goal as well
Lmao
Watching you all way from Saudi Arabia , mind-blowing world we live in.
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@chimpanzee eagle LOL
Okay guys, in summary "facts don't care about your feelings"
Rather : "what you call facts are subject to your feelings, and you are the one to chose which ones you want to know. So don't make conclusions based on facts if logically something is missing to go from that fact to that conclusion. You are probably missing other facts."
@@popkhorne5372 if a fact is illogical, it is not a fact
@@mustardjar3216 you did not understand. What i mean is that facts are subject to your subjective interpretation, leading you to reach the wrong conclusion based on a real fact, because you relied on said fact too much, with little thinking added to it.
People basically transform real facts by their interpretation.
Isn't that more "Te" tho?
I think Ti is my favorite function even though it’s my child
As an INFJ I am in love with Ni and the Aha!-moment orgasms it produces but Ni wouldn't even be half as good if it wasn't coupled with Ti.
It’s my favorite function even though it’s my demon (I didn’t say I was good with it, it’s just my favorite )
Same here!
C.S. Thank you so much for always sharing your knowledge. So helpful to learn from you. - an INFP friend
My belief is that thinking functions are the tools you need for desperate circumstances, when there's no one and nothing reliable around and you have to pull yourself out by your sheer wits and action.
What I’ve learned to day:
Ti - logic/cause and effect (individualized)
Te - rationale/ judges others logic
(Group think)
As a Te user, I never realized how much I evaluate how others think. I judge others on how “smart” they seem. If they seem smart I respect them, if they seem dumb I delete their thoughts and opinions from my brain and keep conversations very surface and cordial. This makes my Fi tingle lol. Am I a good person? Hmmm
Andria Sanders yes, don’t change. I love it.
Wrong. Dont let the bad information on this channel ruin your self image. I will leave you with Jung's words about Introverted thinking " ...)introverted thinking shows a dangerous tendency to coerce facts into the shape of it's image, or by ignoring them altogether, to unfold its phantasy image in freedom. (...) There will cling to it a certain mythological character that we are prone to interpret as 'originality'".
I'll resume. Introverted thinking is this: you think something (a theory) in your head and then you search for evidence that prooves you are correct. That is why introverted thinkers tend to dismiss evidences that contradict their theory because they are comitted to prove their theory to the external world and to themselves. It doesn't mean cause and effect and it doesn't mean they are more intellegent then Te users. This guy has inttoverted thinking high up in his cognitive stack... That is why he comes up with all thesr claims that have nothing to do with Jung's definition of the functions. He is free to share he's observations but this is not what Jung wrote about the function
Attlas yeah I am not trying to share what Jung wrote about any function, at best my content is “based on Jung” but not just Jung
That is obvious to thouse who read Jung. Not for thouse who haven't read it. If you made that clear on your videos I wouldn't be on your channel quoting Jung, specially the introverted thinking function. And I am still waiting for you to prove your claim that Jung initially called Ne the collective unconscious. That was the most bizarre thing I heared on this channel
Attlas I think you are right that Jung did not specifically label it as such, but definition wise, they are the same. Tbh, I don’t care about proving it, any statement I make can be proved or disproved later which in turn causes me to change. I am not perfect nor do I claim to be. Nor do I care about the haughty judgments of Jungian purists either. They can barely reach the layman as it is, which is not useful to anyone in the long run. I admit that I borrow from a variety of sources while not preaching 1 standard from any specific school of thought. I take into account multiple schools of thought and lay it out like a completed puzzle while adding more pieces as I go.
Thanks for your video! You're the most knowledgeable person on CZcams on the MBTI! No debating!
thanks although I dont like MBTI
@@CSJoseph What do you refer to this as?
@Teddy Beadle I mean. He refers to it as “Jungian analytical psychology”
Can't ever arrive at certainty through logic, but can appraise the strength or weakness of an argument.
Te - Collective true/false by stats, data (Rational)
Ti - Individual true/false (Logic)
Fe - Ethics, majority rules with good or bad
Fi - Morals, personal value judgment
oh wow i just realized why i and my best friend end up using some kind of different ways to aproach to a situation. (i am INFJ she is INTJ) Sometimes she tries to explain me something logical but i refuse it because it doesnt suit to my own logic. And even if she proves it i sometimes get really stubborn lol. But i think because i have Fe dominant too i also try to understand what people feel and think. Thats why its not that hard for me to understand other people's logic and try to accept it. But even if i try to accept their logic i usually dont abandon my logic totally i just say that "i understand and approve your statements and logic but in my opinion if this was like "a", it would be better."
I have come to realize that this definition of Ti vs Te is highly influenced by David Powers and differs greatly with Jung's interpretation. Thinking based on common logic is not actually dominant Te, but it is an "unconscious " or immature form of thinking which Feeling dominant types and Perception dominant types use. For Jung Te is empirical thinking while Ti is theoretical ideas . The Ti dominant type is not so concerned with his idea being disproven, as he is with its originality and simplification. Te types love to debunk everything with objective fact.
As a Ti user, I appreciate your insights. Ever the skeptics, we may respect the consensus, but that doesn't mean we won't challenge it personally.
What does it mean if you get a Jamba Juice, set it on the counter, and forget you had it? I find that I have to drink something immediately, or I will forget about it. Inferior Se at work?
By the way, I watched all of these videos when they came out, but I am just now coming to comment years later because a tour in my mind palace led me back here. Yes, you are a resident there.
Hope you are well, Chase.
I think I got my hypothesis. Ive had a friend tear down my beliefs whether im a Ti dom or not, but i now i know im the farthest thing from Fi, I usually do not view things as good or bad but within a grey spectrum that needs to be further analyzed. When you talked about sticking to our ideas unless given factual evidence is so true. We also do not know how to sugar coat the truth, and its not because were trying to be arrogant but that is literally the only way we know how to do it. My friend is an enfp and she drags me constantly into a wirl pool of self doubt. Thanks to your video i can affirm my type. Keep it up man!
New update. Im actually an ISTJ lmaao. Apparently im not a Ti dom but an Si lol. She was right. I had to study the cognitives again and even had a typing session. My conclusions were correct. I was mistyped for almost five years.
2:25 Great analogy for Ti and Te, as well as the contrast between them!
Have you ever heard of the pandemonium theory model on decision making? This is the perfect analogy for Ti. In a nutshell, Ti would be where the group says a bunch of things, but then the "decision demon," as it's called in the system, decides regardless of the group, like a king would in a kingdom. Te, on the other hand, like you've described in your system (which is very useful btw!) would be much more demoncratic: all the members of the group vote and majority rules. Thanks very much for this explanation! I'm ENFP so I really struggled to understand Ti - my brain defaults to Te.
The truth never harmed anyone, it is their reaction to it that harms.
not true
@@raedjamal5779 how so?
I wish everyone else had the same point of view,
7:09 viewer note, types which have introverted thinking. Ti harsh truth 12:03
Really liked the Ti ~ truth part late in the video; I am never trying to hurt people's feelings lol! Why would that interest me?? Far too often, I find that people add a value judgment before they've understood the principle. There's nothing wrong with value judgments per se; but, as an example, feeding all the children in the world by using coercion to extract resources from the productive to give to the unproductive is a non-starter - if only because it abrogates the very principle upon which you purport to stand. That might not be an especially good example - but I think it gets the point across.
Really appreciate your videos, better than most of the other stuff about cognitive functions I've devoured so far. Good job!
I like to see Ti as the knife of the sculpter and Te the rock/sculpture
Ti shapes Te constantly. But Ti can only kill if it wasn't used on Te
Te is the result, it wants to show off the work that was done on it
The more precise Ti is (the knife cuts only the right places), the more accurate Te gets (it'll look like an acctual sculpture)
Interesting video. As an INTJ with the Te function, it reminds me how frustrating it is when you deal with someone who has sound logical and internal consistency in their entire argument, but then you show them research proving that their premise that they built their argument upon was wrong, because although their logic was superb they had incorrect FACTS... and then they get so stubborn and can't seem to even process it.
they probably know deep down and are just too stubborn to admit it
A sound argument by definition cannot contain a false premise. -INTP reply
@@G_Demolished Ok so... A logically valid argument? Touché. Do you understand the point I'm getting at though? An argument built on a false premise is bullshit. I mean you can still say, IF this were true and have a fun thought exercise but it wouldn't be accurate in reality.
midnight15086 Definitely. A false premise is like the last move in a game of Jenga.
Also, I'm in awe of your mind and very grateful for your content - it really challenges me to think differently, and I get that weird but fascinating feeling like when you try to use your left hand to write with when you're right-handed.
SPOILER - LONG FEEDBACK WORTH READING
Hi CS Joseph,
First of all, I have to say that your content is exclusive in a way that its value is probably one of a kind. I can't remember anything that had such an impact on my life the way that what you are teaching has done to me. Now I have developed quite a good skillset when it comes to understanding people and interacting with someone as I have become fairly good at understanding what archetype they are and what their brains work like.
However, I have noticed something. I saw that when I explained to people a little of what I now know about analytical psychology and why that is useful they all immediately get hyped and they wanna learn more. So I suggested them to check your playlists on youtube out. And so they all did, cause they are fired by the topic's potential value. However, almost all of them said that they found it quite long and difficult to stay on track. My first reaction was like "fine... They are just not willing to spend the dedicated time on this topic". But then I also realized that your teaching might have worked so well with me only because of the way I am. I am an ISTJ, and stereotypes apart, I am quite good at being a student and learning. I could see the value of what you were saying (for whatever reason ... my ENFP subconscious might have had a role on that but who knows) and so I began taking notes, organizing them in a way that made sense to me, reading them, and practising. But I am aware that not a lot of ppl wants to do that when they are on youtube. Anyways, now every day before going to bed I am translating my notes into Italian (mainly cause I want my relatives to understand this), adding some illustrating images, keeping a structure that aimed to be easy to read and not forcing the reader to remember a lot of stuff, and keeping this fairly complex topic as concise as possible. I have finished doing the introduction, cognitive functions, and cognitive function attitudes chapters and gave it to my Italian friends and relatives. They loved it. It is only 60 page long now and they read it in a week on average. They got so excited that now they asked me to write about each of the archetypes 😂.
I work as a tech in the financial industry. My career clearly isn't about either psychology or writing. And you know way more things than I do. So I really feel like you have the potential to blow up in what you are doing because people are super interested in becoming mind hackers.
Haven't you thought about hiring a video editor and working more on the format you teach this? Adding animations and images might attract people that learn more using them, and adding shortcuts when you talk might help the listener stay more on track and not losing focus.
This shit is dope and I can say it changed my life! You are a freak!!!!🔥🔥🔥🔥
Let’s hope you stick around, even if you are offended by me.
@@CSJoseph Nah... I ain't offended. Sometimes I might want to have an epic argument with you cause I don't fully agree. But I have a lot of friends similar to you. So I guess I unconsciously like to have those kinds of arguments otherwise they wouldn't stay my friends for so long 😅.
Anyways, you know your stuff 🔥
Holy crap the part about how your feeling effect how others think and vice versa, was an absolute revelation for me and I've been studying the cognitive functions for a couple years now!! Thank yoooou!
Ma Meta you are very welcome!
C.S. Joseph ....AND I really appreciated your description of the ESTP....it differed from many and actually describes my husband much more accurately than I've seen! He's tested out as ESTP, but I've been unsure that was correct based the ESTP narratives among other reasons. Understanding how their logic helps people after the fact makes a lot of sense to me (about him).
Also, also...I'm from Sactown! 🙌🏼 lol
Wait what? Why cant I understand this?
Very, very good. I do think - and I may be wrong - that Ti in the INTP is almost never "wrong"; rather, he/she may have started with a problematic axiom and thus built an inherently unsound system. In a very real sense, I (for example) "almost" like being wrong more than being right, because there's so much more new information to glean from the former:
1. What, precisely, was the dubious axiom?
2. How and why did I assume it true (this is the most information-dense and thus illuminating)
3. Did Fe play a part in my lack of thorough introspection on this particular matter (doubtful; but worth taking a look lol)?
I find that the ENTP is the enjoyable "debate/discussion" partner.
- intp
@Michael Loftus I suppose "anything is possible" but this may be worth considering: if the axiom is, indeed, wrong, then of what profit would there be (insofar as Fe is concerned) in making wrong, Fe-based logical connections? The Fe perturbation that led to the original incorrect axiom is alread satiated by making said assumption - the uncomfortable truth has alread been avoided. What, then, would it matter if the logical connections are poor? It seems to me that the opposite would more likely be true since the axiomatic error was made to "protect the ego", so to speak. The logical connections part is "what we do" as intps; it's sort of an animal instinct that runs in the background. I'm definitely not saying you're wrong, Michael (that would be a silly claim); just that a deeper understanding of the process is more suggestive of axiom establishment requiring Ne; whereas the logical connections part requires Ti.
Think of it this way: Ne is the baked cake and Ti is the knife slicing it into equal parts for your guests. You might burn the cake (haywire Ne - misunderstanding of temperature settings) but you aren't going to slice 6 pieces for 4 guests. In cases of mental illness or something similar, perhaps.
@Michael Loftus Okay.
Thank you for these kind of informing videos
Looking sharp in this video! 💯
I see how we deal with our fears - through aspiring.
the use of my child function Si - I have a duty to _______
but how do we deal with our worries correctly?
wait for episode 5
Reviewing the video again, is so funny your look 🤣 I'm an ENTP as well so I can absolutely relate to this kind of awkward 🤣 your clothes, your hair and mustache 🤣
If people wanna understand ti a bit better you should read the book "Humility is the New Smart" by Edward D Hess
I can totally relate to the TI hero. I care about the truth. I don't care about your feelings about the truth. However, I don't like to hurt them with the truth sometimes. for example - if human's gender is determined by genitals then there are only two genders but I don't wanna force anyone to feel in a certain way that can make them live with emotional pain. I'm not so pushy about it like some peoples like Jordan Peterson or Ben Shapiro As long as I know the truth it's good enough for me. My next course of actions will be based on that truth. Also contrary to popular belief, I don't think abortion is okay. Because murdering human is not okay. Does it make me Fi user instead of Fe? I give conspiracy theories a chance but if I somehow find a logical flaw in their theory I say goodbye. So I guess I'm a Ti user
Well, maybe the abortion thing is less of a "i feel it's evil to kill babies" and more of a "i think it's counter productive to kill babies" since you need extra laws and bureaucracy, it can be used way too liberally by some people and the aborted baby was murdered which is illegal, so it's less choosing something according to Fi and more choosing according to Ti which overpowers Fe.
@Michael Loftus ok that's a bit of a hyperbole, it's not like empathy doesn't exist, these whole Ti and Fe and Ni things have an effect, sure, but there are things that make all of us humans tick in some way.
ESTP -ultimate realist-yeah!
ENTP-would be ultimate revolutionist 🤔
*C.S. Joseph* : for the ENTP it's not about what's going on right now...which is the perspective of--"
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Thank you for mentioning Ad Hominem!
Love the suit!
That was superb! Really enjoyed it...INTP here...Cheers!
INFP here. I got kicked off a Discord server by having this exact argument between Ti and Te between me and INTPs and we just went back and forth and I kept giving them facts and data and life experience and they kept denying it was true over and over until they finally kicked me off. It's a sad world we live in but yeah that is the reality of it all
Looking good Chase 😌
I am glad I am a feeler.
Is it possible to believe in absolute truth if Ti is your demon function? Like, if you developed the idea from consuming other people's thoughts. I intentionally form theories and test them, but it takes me a lot of repetitions to form a conclusion and be sure. That sounds evidence-based to me, more Te. Seems like I'm emulating Ti
You lookin fly in that suit my dude.
So how would a Ti parent would be at a field like programming which involves lots of logic? Because from my understanding the parent can be exhausted and is not always present unlike the hero or the child.
It's not fit well. Better of when Ti in critic function.
@@honor9lite1337 Ok, then what would be a good career choice for a Ti parent?
@@iulianoprea6659 Ti parent then you have Fe child. Focus on that, because the parent there is to serve the child. Then pairing it with your hero function, that would be either Ne or Se. I also think that Ti/Fe axis on the middle would be best at kind of providing some persuasion or understanding to the mass.
@@honor9lite1337 There must be a higher goal somewhere than to sell people on ideas. Everyone tells me ENTPs can be great at sales but it is not really something I see myself doing due to ethical issues. There are not many products I believe in. Now thing is that I want to fully understand how far Ti parent can go in terms of strength and I want to develop it. Is the usage of the child function the best way to develop the parent or there are other ways of doing it that give better results?
Lovely outfit, suits you 👍✅😀
If it’s truth then feelings don’t matter. False.
The problem with “truth only” is that what’s usually most important is how you respond based on that truth and in most situations that are multiple truths and some of those truths are with regard to emotion and personal experience - which are I guess subjective truths but truth none the less. Who is to say which truth is most valuable to prioritize?
Sorry if this is covered in a later video that I'm sure to stumble upon eventually, but for the other 3 so far, there was a tip on how to make them feel good, respect for Te, Status for Fi, Gratitude for Fe, what would be the tip for Ti since it looks like you were in a rush for a meeting!
When discussing ideas, show that you can make or follow logical arguments. Be humble on what you don't know and let them show you their understanding of the world. Don't make arguments that rely on generally accepted facts unless those facts are grounded. Ti users have Te shadow and will avoid talking to you ever again if you've shown unable to follow a logical argument.
Darn it no white board
from I can say the man is running Google the search engine is Te user and do evaluate pages on (consensus and credibility) hahaha
Can someone recommend me a novel/book in which a dominant Ti narrates in the first person so that I can understand this function perfectly / his thought process or how his head works?
This is the function that has been the most difficult for me to understand, and especially I cannot understand or identify when someone use it in an auxiliary way.
I have this intp friend that's constantly want to use his own type of logic every single time I ask a question about something,for instance chemistry and mathematical concepts from a textbook and many times when I ask it he kinda doesn't use the same logic or opinions from the book..but here's what happened next, several times about 2 times I think(we've been friend for about 4 months now) he doesn't get the answers right but then suddenly when I see him getting that answers wrong I somehow immediately know to explain it with my own logic based on the text given in the book and I verify it by searching for it in the Internet and showed the "data" to him that he's logic is not accurate..but then maybe he sees something else with his Ne parent..btw I'm an infj and the questions I asked him about is about quantum physics in chemistry.
Definition of stream of consciousness.
You know what you're talking about.
Excellent revisiting again lol
I watched the video but the difference between Te and Ti is still rather foggy to me. Could you give a scenario that involves an argument between two people or even just a simple situation where one shows there reasoning in a logical manner and one in a rationale manner? I’m trying to visualize and think in my head the process that a person who has Ti would think like and the process of thinking for a Te user. Idk why it’s so difficult for me to understand but maybe you can give another explanation that may help.
Watch death note Te vs Ti xD (anime not tv adaptation)
@@LarsGuerra May I know who's the Ti and Te between L and Light?
@@chroniczlynx9435 L is INTP light is ENTJ.
As a sensor I cannot miss that your suit doesn't fit you really well. It's a bit too loose on you...
Are you an extroverted sensor?
I like the suit in theory but the color combination could be improved. Dark suit light shirt, conservative tie works best and looks most professional
Gotta love being Se trickster and having no fucking clue what you're talking about.
Interesting video. Thank you.
My man's dripped tf out
So when I confirm something to be true, there is nothing anyone can do to tell me its false without giving me an actual reason why ofcourse.
I’ve watched this many times to understand your explanation but you still didn’t clarify Where Does Ti Come From? You’ve mentioned that Ti and Fe are on the same axis and you’ve talked many times about Te being the source of Fi, by that logic is Fe the source of Ti?
Watch Season 18
Ti come out of nowhere. Ti is like a processor. It's solely job is to process any input. Fe is not the source, it is Ti duality.
C.S. Joseph Ok I’ll check it thanks
Honor 9 Lite What’s Ti duality?
Fi is a processor too but since he used the logic of Te and Fi are on the same axis therefore Te is the source of Fi. Why didn’t he use the logic with TiFe since they’re on the same axis as well. He needs to provide reasons to why it’s not the case, it’s not clear.
“Fact” is only as true as the input of information that is factually based. Wisdom is the application of fact in a way that can be communicated ethically and morally based. Otherwise all you have is unrelated points of fact or inputs of fact independent from other facts with out a connection or a reference point.
And yet the input itself is not the truth
@@CSJoseph Very true. I think in today’s world where there is so much information being dumped... the truth is hard to find, that’s why verifying and observing patterns and truth seeking is so important.
Anybody can use numbers and statistics to win an argument but if the information is bias and has an agenda other than truth than it’s just non-factual information that is oftentimes misleading and harmful. I think I’m talking in code with you lol.
My late father was a great debater and I’m quite confident he was an ENTP. He was not received well in my “feeler” family... the odd sheep if you will. I had some super awesome conversations with him before he died. He was my best friend. He stretched my mind and encouraged me to think for myself!
I respect you Chase
you're my hero
in every way xd
@@brtbstn What MBTI type has C.S. Joseph as hero functions ?
So as a child Ti INFJ, i tend to do this if im looking for the best path forward and having to choose when my freedom gets restricted or am I way off ?
way off
My estp brother always says, "it's not mean if it's the truth"
INTP ~ Thank you cognitive sensei.
Cs joseph is my wife
I am not that cool.
I had trouble following this video. What do you mean when you say “a table of true/false.” I had too watch this video multiple times. I identify and understand when you were talking about absolute truth.
Its mean it is process thing based on whether that input information is something logical or not. And throrugly consistent according to Ti user database.
I'm pretty sure that Ti is my blindspot because people keep describing it in a certain way, and I'm always like, what the hell are you talking about?
How do I know if I’m an INFJ male? What do I use Ti for if I am?
You have Ni bro don't fight it! You keeping all this stuff in mind at once and knowing how much time something will take, that is Ni!
So apparently keeping things in your mind is Ni. Guess everybody is an Ni user. You can use Si experience to predict how much time things will take. Seems like you've never applied his system in real life and are comfortable going with what the majority thinks
9:42 how does the word invisionaries sound
Damn... beard game got tight 👌💯
If I don’t like to learn to do things via reading instructions but prefer to learn through direct trial and error does that signify a preference for Ti over Te?
But at the same time I enjoy reading books (Te??) when they’re conceptual. Basically: I enjoy trial and error when it comes to doing concrete things but enjoy reading and taking in outside sources when it comes to abstract things and learning about other people's take on the world. So this throws me off a bit.
did you get the type grid?
First of all - thanks for your lectures, they’ve been invaluable.
I'm INTP ofc Ti is my hero but can you explain why my Fi demon is very high too? I feel I'm horrible person and I always blaming myself
I only feel like that when someone invalidates my Fe, usually one on one case basis. ENTJ feel like that when in the grip.
INTP and ENTJ mirror each other.
To give more context when I feel worthless, is when someone that really really means alot to me ghosts me, that act can really crush me and bring me to my Fi mode, but the unhealthy version of Fi, instead of the healthy version of it. So I self destruct, I bully myself, not intentionally, it just happens like that, because of how highly depressing it is. If nothing triggers my Fi, i feel neutral, i barely can tell how i feel when things are ok. So it does take an event to really notice my feelings.
@C.S. Joseph I have a question about this as an ENTJ. Because this is in my nemesis slot can I safely conclude that this would refer to times where an individuals worries about their own logic and goes through a combination of either failure to launch a business because they're concerned that other people will think their decisions will be bad (Fe Demon) and/or launching several business/exploring far to many options because they're uncertain about which one will actually take them towards their end goals overall?
possibly but not likely.
I like your cut G
Is Ti that thing that I can't get out of as an ENTP? Like the beginning of the loop?
So when Ti makes a decision analyzes all the gathered information piece by piece, while Te uses the sum of it?
yes
Te has the ability to produce something just from little information, as long as the information works for other people too. But with Ti, a person will have to know everything there's to know about something to make a move/decision.
I wanted to meet an ENTP during my quarter life crisis. Right.
Hey could you explain the T-shirt about the 16 symbols? So what is which type
its the type grid: csjoseph.life/typegrid
what up
As a Te user, I think Ti is flawd and it's like you give them a ton ton of information and they tear them apart in right and wrong and they don't build anything out of it.
My Te is like, I can take everything in and even out of connecting logical and sometimes irrational, people's opinions and everything into consideration and produce the final result that finally works and delivers the results where Ti user keeps pointing me how irrational I'm and he's the one with no results to show because he teared everything apart in right or wrong.
Was recently debating with a Ti user on this pandemic and how it's a whole worldwide scam that was masterminded heavily by Elites that are pulling strings behind the scenes. I've warned him not to take that vaccine shot and I know he'll take it and will regret it later when he'll find the evil agenda behind all...
Good Ti users listen, bad ones don't. You can't judge a racecar by how good the driver is. Imagine you get a terrible driver and conclude the car is no good.
Your beard is funny, though :D
Is it possible to build my Ti later in life? I've noticed my Te before being very strong, but now I can listen to what the majority thinks and be able to think through what they are saying and determine if it's true or not.
Yes, it's possible, but it it's Te trickster or demon, that's going to be the journey of a lifetime more than a straightforward exercise to practice. I detail how in the Discover your Psyche bundle for each type.
Hey what about Ti child? I want to know
Is introverted thinking commonsense
That would be Te. Extraverted Rationale and therefore universal and therefore “common”.
@@djgranville I have no common sense. I literally have an abstraction disorder where I can't generalize abstract concepts to new situations I've never seen before. And I'm Te child.
Dude as a Ti Hero that goatee has to go. True false processing..... Good content still I very much enjoy!
How can I improve my Ti child?
verify all your beliefs
Would you be better at maths the higher your Ti is?
Yeah a little, In the sense that they have access to both Thinking funcitons helps.
Hello C. S. Joseph! I have another question. 🙃I scored 98% in abstract thinking on my SAT. Is that consistent with INTP? Thanks.
no idea
C.S. Joseph Given your extensive, and admirable, knowledge of Type, I find that hard to believe. But, whatever you say...😊
@@louiseavannorden4710 yes
Drop the stereotype, not all INTPs are bright. Come on.
@@yurizafurizaki5574 They're the best at logic which is thinking skills. Now they could come to the wrong conclusions by absorbing the wrong data as Ti is just a process to convert Te into a Ti truth.
why would you react to feelings with rational? I don't quiet understand that. I mean, isn't empathy when you react with emotions towards emotions? so empathy would literally be Fi reacting to Fi.
No, this is incorrect
@@CSJoseph can you make a video explaining why Feelings are reacted towards with thinking and vice versa?
Can I learn Ti if it's a blindspot. Should I practice if this then that statements? Should I practice categorizing things as true or false?
It depends on what you mean by blindspot. The answer is still yes, but depending on which slot, it may be the journey of a lifetime (demon or trickster).
I am an ENTP to
Im kinda late, 2 years late, i guess its not that bad. I have a kind of troubling question, which user, Ti or Te, is best for being a boss or leader of a company? (My comment probably wont be viewed even, but if it does, i really hope for an answer and explanation, because im kinda figuring it out in my mind and i want to know ur opinion C.S. Joseph. Thanks!)
Both can work. Tim Cook is Te hero. Steve Jobs is Ti parent
@@CSJoseph Im impressed you check the comments 2 years later, you just climbed to the rank of "My Favorite CZcamsr". Thanks so much for answering.
PS: I just checked, Steve jobs is ENTJ if im not wrong, thus Te hero, and Tim Cook INTJ, which means Te parent
PPS: Sorry cant help not correct people, but i do get your point.
@@nova-a7404 Nope Steve Jobs is an ENTP. The opinion of others is not necessarily the word of God. By that logic CS Joseph is an ESTJ.
Hey @C.S. Joseph , near the beginning of this video you used the collective's judgement of abortion vs an individual's judgement of it as an example of morals vs ethics- what Fe and Fi are tuned into, respectively. This makes me curious about what kind of thought processes would lead an Fe hero to support an ideology (such as a pro-life agenda) that opposes the collective. My Dad, for instance, is an ENFJ and very pro-life, and he came to this opinion (and the religious convictions behind it) largely through research and study. I'm wondering if he now considers the church and the faith he now belongs to as his new "collective" from which to draw ethical judgements. What do you think about this?
the pro-life group is still a collective in its own right.
@@CSJoseph I should have thought of that. Thank you for the reply!
Hey Chase, is this type of logic what you're referring to when you speak of introverted thinking, or is this still extraverted thinking? czcams.com/video/V5tUc-J124s/video.html
My current understanding of introverted thinking is you have an internal framework of understanding and you are comparing everything you see piece by piece in Boolean fashion to that internal framework. Using that internal framework you can generate various theories and test them.
If that's true, then I don't know where mathematical proof style reasoning fits into the equation.
if this than that