Hmmmm....no video of it actually moving any water from a hydrant to a nozzle and onto a fire. I mean, that is the whole point of having a fire engine/pumper correct??
although definetly built to fight fires, most calls in real life are either some sort of technical assistance and rescue calls (like traffic accidents, people trapped in a stuck elevator) or are false fire alarms. And most actual fires they respond to can be put out with only minimum effort, sometimes it doesn't even take a hose to do so But it can definetly work on scene of "real" fire calls.
cute joke kid, but firefighters have to spend hours and hours next to working diesel engines, and they suffer all health problems because of that, even when doing simple exercises or operations, this makes a huge difference
@@jakob6832 this joke is not going to have all nuances of real world firefighting. It's about how making extremely dangerous job marginally less dangerous doesn't sound too convincing of a selling point, that's it :)
@@jakob6832 missions? You mean calls or runs? We are constantly in and out of the station on runs and this electric fire engine is a horrible idea right now. It’ll be dead on the first shift
My hometown of Concord, New Hampshire (USA) should get at least one of these electric fire trucks just to try it out, put some Red/White Light's in the front & Red/Amber Light's in the back, along with the Screaming-Q & Powercall Siren's.
only as backup. It doesn't need it to go through a normal shift. It only kicks in if the battery is below 20%, which is barely the case on a normal shift
@@EnjoyFirefighting BS, I've been to the Rosenbauer factory, and dealt with these engines personally, they are not capable of pumping a structure fire on all electric power for any length of time, they can putt from medical aid to medical aid blocks from the station on EV and that's really about it, none of the manufacturers have a soley EV fire offering because it simply isn't capable of running purely on EV.
@@dmac5497 so are you trying to tell me that the Berlin FD is either telling lies or that they didn't have any sort of structure fire in that area for more than a year? How likely is that? FYI: here we rather go for less GPM and more PSI when attacking a fire. Building and fire prevention codes result in fires barely getting out of hands. Most fires inside buildings are limited to one room or apartment and can be dealt with in shortest amount of time and with only little amounts of water. Sometimes it doesn't even take a hose line or the quick attack rubber hose reel might be sufficient. Things work different here, but we definetly have our share of structure fires as well, and this truck worked on them just like any other diesel powered Rescue Engine in the city did as well. Within the first 4 months it ran electric to 99.55% and used only 2.11 gallons of diesel. After 13 months it was still at 95% of running calls all electric and the diesel backup kicked in only 10 times, and that's only because the battery went below 20%. And if there might be that one enormous fully involved structure fire of e.g. a warehouse or industrial site, which definetly isn't a daily or weekly thing here, that it can keep on pumping as the diesel backup will provide sufficient power for it. Sure, then it really needs the diesel, but it's not like it would rely on it on a daily basis
@@EnjoyFirefighting Ah okay. Hab vorhin ein Video von Pierce gesehen und deren E-Feuerwehrauto. Das ist ja mal ein billiger Versuch, hier noch Land gut zu machen, alleine abgestellt auf Emotionen.
Go to Rosenbauer website..... 1. The truck is easy to get into because it has a system that raises and lowers the entire chasis= more expense, and more to go wrong. 2. With full charge you get approx. 30 min before the batteries are dead and the generator engine has to kick in. Very few fires that are significant will allow going to the scene, pumping water, and get back to the station in 30 min. 3. Come back to the station with dead batteries and it takes just under 1 1/2 hours to completely charge the batteries. 4. Try to find one of these trucks in service in the US you probably can't. It's marked and called CFT or CRT for Concept Fire Truck or Concept Rescue Truck.... It's brand new and largely untested technology. That was a nice commercial..... But VERY misleading!!!
@@jamesebdon1212 1 it's air suspension, it's sth which has worked on other Rosenbauer apparatus serving the busy life of capital city fire and rescue services for years without greater issues already like in the Danish capital city of Copenhagen 2. Full charge allows 60 to 90 minutes of permanent running service, that's more than sufficient for most calls; The CFT tested by the FD in the German capital city was running at a busy downtown station for 4 months and it was running several hundreds of emergency calls all electric before the diesel generator kicked in the first time, for only 10 minutes. 3 A full charge takes 30 minutes 4 obviously you can't, as there are 3 in service at departments in 3 different countries so far: Berlin FD in Germany, Amsterdam FD in the Netherlands and Dubai Civil Defence in the UAE; Several other departments signed contracts already, thus the Oslo Fire and Rescue Service will replace the country's busiest fire apparatus with a CFT as well
Check out the price..... Which they conveniently left out..... Expect around 1.2 million dollars with 0 equipment on it.... So by the time it is outfitted with radios, hose, nozzles, rescue equipment, etc. it will probably be close to 2 million dollars when you back it into the station. That might not cover the high power charging system it will require.
The cost of the equipment to outfit an apparatus is the same if it is traditional or an electric truck. That really has no comparative value when making a choice about the apparatus itself. Things to consider would be the decreased engine maintenance cost and improvements to climate protection, noise control and health protection.
@@allamericanfireequipment improvement to environment by mining and making large lithium ion battery a process that not environmentally friendly and unless your charging the truck only with solar and wind that not ever environmentally friendly either. Then when cities of blackout and truck battery dead how many people will die before the proven and reliability trucks come back
@@robert-73 firstly what this EV stuff is all about is to be equipped for everyday operation and the RT shines in that. When the calculating is done, EVs always come out as the more environmentally friendly option. And secondly this vehicle could still operate in a blackout scenario due to its fitted so called "Range Extender" - a diesel motor, it comes alive when no more juice is left in the batteries, so long missions are no problem either
@@jakob6832 and if extra fuel for generator? That tank not going to run for ever. As for environment not when you add in the environmental effect of the diesel generator, the mining and production of the battery packs which do major environmental damage and are hazardous substance, What about the oil and coal feed power plants that will power it? They not environmentally friend either. What about flood road ways in cities electric motors do not like water. City of Pittsburg has several parts that get flood. Cities in Florida do as well even more so after a hurricane. What going to do when power out for weeks or months. That generator going to burn thru fuel.
I dont clearly understand what you are trying to tell me... But from what I do understand: theres a difference in "environmental damage" and being MORE eco-friendly as somethn else. As long as there are humans on this planet, environmental damage will be done. And - this one made me laugh - conventional engines "like" water even less cause they need OXYGEN to run. EVs DONT! Its just the only option for the future.
First time they use the Q siren the battery goes dead; this thing is a PR gimmick at best. How many minutes can it pump 1500 gpm; two...three minutes? What a joke.🤮
it has completed its 13 month trial phase at some of the busiest stations in the German capital city. It completed every single call it was dispatched to without any issues. Actually it had even less downtime than the diesel powered Rescue Engines as it didn't need to go to the gas station at all. Within the entire year it's diesel backup generator kicked in only 10 times - not because the battery was at 0%, but because it was below 20%
How much does this thing cost? Oh yea, you kinda gotta yknow… plug this truck into something. Batteries charge slowly. I’ve seen other electric firetrucks before this. Mining battery materials is harmful to the earth.
Nice truck
its funny to see an austrian company on a channel called "all american fire equipment" :)
If only we could see how effective it is putting out a fire, even a small brush fire.
Funny that🤣
Hmmmm....no video of it actually moving any water from a hydrant to a nozzle and onto a fire. I mean, that is the whole point of having a fire engine/pumper correct??
although definetly built to fight fires, most calls in real life are either some sort of technical assistance and rescue calls (like traffic accidents, people trapped in a stuck elevator) or are false fire alarms. And most actual fires they respond to can be put out with only minimum effort, sometimes it doesn't even take a hose to do so
But it can definetly work on scene of "real" fire calls.
Mooi product Steve John groetjes Cor van Heiningen ( klu brandweer)
Actually the Pierce Voltara is already in service.
I like the idea of having zero cancerogenic emissions from truck that is right next to a blazing building
cute joke kid, but firefighters have to spend hours and hours next to working diesel engines, and they suffer all health problems because of that, even when doing simple exercises or operations, this makes a huge difference
@@jh5kl sure, what about the diesel generator that will kick in once you are in hours-and-hours situation?
@@JLarky approx 95% of the missions we do are under the 1.5 hours they say this truck can last electrically.
@@jakob6832 this joke is not going to have all nuances of real world firefighting. It's about how making extremely dangerous job marginally less dangerous doesn't sound too convincing of a selling point, that's it :)
@@jakob6832 missions? You mean calls or runs? We are constantly in and out of the station on runs and this electric fire engine is a horrible idea right now. It’ll be dead on the first shift
My hometown of Concord, New Hampshire (USA) should get at least one of these electric fire trucks just to try it out, put some Red/White Light's in the front & Red/Amber Light's in the back, along with the Screaming-Q & Powercall Siren's.
This is good for RV's
A range extender? You mean a diesel engine? Lol its a Hybrid
only as backup. It doesn't need it to go through a normal shift. It only kicks in if the battery is below 20%, which is barely the case on a normal shift
@@EnjoyFirefighting BS, I've been to the Rosenbauer factory, and dealt with these engines personally, they are not capable of pumping a structure fire on all electric power for any length of time, they can putt from medical aid to medical aid blocks from the station on EV and that's really about it, none of the manufacturers have a soley EV fire offering because it simply isn't capable of running purely on EV.
@@dmac5497 so are you trying to tell me that the Berlin FD is either telling lies or that they didn't have any sort of structure fire in that area for more than a year? How likely is that?
FYI: here we rather go for less GPM and more PSI when attacking a fire. Building and fire prevention codes result in fires barely getting out of hands. Most fires inside buildings are limited to one room or apartment and can be dealt with in shortest amount of time and with only little amounts of water. Sometimes it doesn't even take a hose line or the quick attack rubber hose reel might be sufficient. Things work different here, but we definetly have our share of structure fires as well, and this truck worked on them just like any other diesel powered Rescue Engine in the city did as well.
Within the first 4 months it ran electric to 99.55% and used only 2.11 gallons of diesel. After 13 months it was still at 95% of running calls all electric and the diesel backup kicked in only 10 times, and that's only because the battery went below 20%.
And if there might be that one enormous fully involved structure fire of e.g. a warehouse or industrial site, which definetly isn't a daily or weekly thing here, that it can keep on pumping as the diesel backup will provide sufficient power for it. Sure, then it really needs the diesel, but it's not like it would rely on it on a daily basis
it's not the first
Which one is?
@@RoadsFranconia The Mini Pumper & Logistics Unit Rosenbauer delivered one or two years before presenting the CFT
@@EnjoyFirefighting Ah okay. Hab vorhin ein Video von Pierce gesehen und deren E-Feuerwehrauto. Das ist ja mal ein billiger Versuch, hier noch Land gut zu machen, alleine abgestellt auf Emotionen.
Go to Rosenbauer website..... 1. The truck is easy to get into because it has a system that raises and lowers the entire chasis= more expense, and more to go wrong.
2. With full charge you get approx. 30 min before the batteries are dead and the generator engine has to kick in. Very few fires that are significant will allow going to the scene, pumping water, and get back to the station in 30 min. 3. Come back to the station with dead batteries and it takes just under 1 1/2 hours to completely charge the batteries. 4. Try to find one of these trucks in service in the US you probably can't. It's marked and called CFT or CRT for Concept Fire Truck or Concept Rescue Truck.... It's brand new and largely untested technology.
That was a nice commercial..... But VERY misleading!!!
@@jamesebdon1212 1 it's air suspension, it's sth which has worked on other Rosenbauer apparatus serving the busy life of capital city fire and rescue services for years without greater issues already like in the Danish capital city of Copenhagen
2. Full charge allows 60 to 90 minutes of permanent running service, that's more than sufficient for most calls; The CFT tested by the FD in the German capital city was running at a busy downtown station for 4 months and it was running several hundreds of emergency calls all electric before the diesel generator kicked in the first time, for only 10 minutes.
3 A full charge takes 30 minutes
4 obviously you can't, as there are 3 in service at departments in 3 different countries so far: Berlin FD in Germany, Amsterdam FD in the Netherlands and Dubai Civil Defence in the UAE; Several other departments signed contracts already, thus the Oslo Fire and Rescue Service will replace the country's busiest fire apparatus with a CFT as well
Check out the price..... Which they conveniently left out..... Expect around 1.2 million dollars with 0 equipment on it.... So by the time it is outfitted with radios, hose, nozzles, rescue equipment, etc. it will probably be close to 2 million dollars when you back it into the station. That might not cover the high power charging system it will require.
The cost of the equipment to outfit an apparatus is the same if it is traditional or an electric truck. That really has no comparative value when making a choice about the apparatus itself. Things to consider would be the decreased engine maintenance cost and improvements to climate protection, noise control and health protection.
@@allamericanfireequipment improvement to environment by mining and making large lithium ion battery a process that not environmentally friendly and unless your charging the truck only with solar and wind that not ever environmentally friendly either. Then when cities of blackout and truck battery dead how many people will die before the proven and reliability trucks come back
@@robert-73 firstly what this EV stuff is all about is to be equipped for everyday operation and the RT shines in that. When the calculating is done, EVs always come out as the more environmentally friendly option. And secondly this vehicle could still operate in a blackout scenario due to its fitted so called "Range Extender" - a diesel motor, it comes alive when no more juice is left in the batteries, so long missions are no problem either
@@jakob6832 and if extra fuel for generator? That tank not going to run for ever. As for environment not when you add in the environmental effect of the diesel generator, the mining and production of the battery packs which do major environmental damage and are hazardous substance, What about the oil and coal feed power plants that will power it? They not environmentally friend either. What about flood road ways in cities electric motors do not like water. City of Pittsburg has several parts that get flood. Cities in Florida do as well even more so after a hurricane. What going to do when power out for weeks or months. That generator going to burn thru fuel.
I dont clearly understand what you are trying to tell me... But from what I do understand: theres a difference in "environmental damage" and being MORE eco-friendly as somethn else. As long as there are humans on this planet, environmental damage will be done.
And - this one made me laugh - conventional engines "like" water even less cause they need OXYGEN to run. EVs DONT! Its just the only option for the future.
Brilliant, until it's just got back from a shout and there's another one straight away but it can't go out again until it's been recharged 😑
it can, it has a backup engine which also supports it on longer missions
lol...
First time they use the Q siren the battery goes dead; this thing is a PR gimmick at best. How many minutes can it pump 1500 gpm; two...three minutes? What a joke.🤮
it has completed its 13 month trial phase at some of the busiest stations in the German capital city. It completed every single call it was dispatched to without any issues. Actually it had even less downtime than the diesel powered Rescue Engines as it didn't need to go to the gas station at all. Within the entire year it's diesel backup generator kicked in only 10 times - not because the battery was at 0%, but because it was below 20%
No, no, no!
Yes, yes, yes!
How much does this thing cost?
Oh yea, you kinda gotta yknow… plug this truck into something.
Batteries charge slowly.
I’ve seen other electric firetrucks before this.
Mining battery materials is harmful to the earth.
it is indeed but they can be recycled very well
rosenbauer dosent provide dental care for their employees? shame