“My fault, I didn’t get the joke.” Poor thing. I also found it heartbreaking when she says Joker really does love her. And yet we all know that if he truly loved her, she wouldn’t have cuts, bruises as well as all the symptoms of emotional abuse and manipulation.
had better days that’s exactly how abusive relationships work. First is “Nobody will love you except for me” and distancing from family and friends, next is the hitting, punching, slapping and bruises, and finally it’s “I’m sorry, I won’t do it again, please come back” and the flowers and gifts. Then the cycle starts all over again.
Too bad Harley is too easily manipulated when it comes to Joker, why in my opinion being pushed out that window and almost dying should've been the biggest wake up call of Harley's life, i mean it sure would be for me if i were in her situation.
Though this episode is a good example of abusive relationships, and how heartbreaking they may be to witness, I’m glad in later interactions, Harley evolved into her own character. Independent from Joker and in a better relationship (Usually paired with Ivy, and or Cat Woman). It’s actually interesting in how, in some cases, she became more popular than Joker, and how much she’s evolved as a character.
It's not Harley's fault that she can't see the hate and abuse coming from Joker. In abusive relationships, the victim always figures it's their fault because of how manipulative their partner is. That's the sadness of this relationship.
+Rᴀɪɴʙᴏᴡ Sɴᴏᴡᴄᴏɴᴇ Obviously. Because he's strung her along long enough to falsely fill in that empty space in her life until she turned crazy. Now everything she does is to prove they're meant to be when that wasn't an intent in his mind.
This series was dark as hell tbh. What they did to Tim is arguably still one of the most disturbing things in "kids" animation. Ik it was Batman Beyond, but still the same characters.
if its harley in trouble Joker pays no attention if its batman in trouble Joker speeds down an empty city street in the middle of the night ready to murder people Oh the irony
@@ez5900 "why can't he ever stay dead?" - Joker in Jokers wild... Joker from the Animated Series is not against killing Batman. Joker from the entire DC Animated Universe isn't against killing Batman; in fact, he even encourages Lex Luther to do it in a Justice League episode. Joker also wanted batman dead in Batman89. Other movies/comic/books/tv series/games? Sure. But not the the DCAU.
@@yules2597 the kicker is when your friends mom gets pushed into the bathtub and messes up her back and all the asshole can say is that "it looked funny" and he "didn't push her'
Not only did she come close to killing Batman, but she made him laugh. Two things Joker was never able to do. Edit: I meant Harley did both in this universe. I know Joker did both in the Killing Joke.
I never really saw Harley as a villain after this episode. She was manipulated from the start and couldn't break her obsession with the Joker. Unfortunately, Joker just saw her as a pawn that he could use and abuse, knowing that she would come back to him.
I always saw her as a villain. She chose to let joker manipulated her. She deserves to be in jail just like joker. Its not like joker had a mind control device. Harley was stupid enough to believe he loved her. Harley knew joker killed people, but still loved him. I feel bad that joker abuses her, but she doesn't deserve to get out scot free.
@@thecartoonvault5381 but you act like Harley didn't just go out of her way to kidnap Batman who was a essentially a super cop in attempt to murder him via piranha and you mean to tell me that she doesn't deserve to be in prison forever lol no I think you're the sick one 😂😂😂😂
gor9027 actually joker just made her realize her violent personality and freed it she was always into criminal stuff just someone had to teach that to her this was mentioned in many different comic book story’s of Harley Quinn she knows what she’s doing is bad and she is aware of everything joker didn’t manipulated her to have a violent personality out of no where it was always there (sorry if my English is bad it’s not my native language)
With his obsession for Batman I don’t think he could take it if someone else killed Batman. Joker would probably kill that person too who killed Batman out of a blind rage for taking away his greatest nemesis.
@@joshshuter7536 wow man you must be FUUUN at parties. No dawg I tell them, "bruh Joker legit slapped Harley Quinn out of a 3 story window for kidnapping Batman and torturing him because he was insecure and jealous of his girl doing what he couldn't."
I remember in this episode after Batman wins he told Joker that Harley actually got the best of him and she could have killed him if it weren't for The Joker interfering.
Even Batman flinched when Joker struck Harley. If Harley didn’t chain Batman then he could’ve saved her from Joker. I like Harley as she is now becoming stronger and more independent. I really hope they never stop boosting her.
@@mikewheeler6059 he did in a way. She wouldn't believe batman so she had to witness it first hand from the joker, batman telling Harley everything was just a trick to get her to call the joker so she could witness the true reality.
Oh please in another comic joker had to choose to save Batman or Harley he obviously chose Batman while Harley slowly fell into the acid Batman ignored her and ran for joker like he doesn’t care he doesn’t kill but he will let some villains die like he said on Arkham knight he said to joker “why would I care if you died”
+Mizuki Koneko-chan in a way I'm kinda glad they portrayed them the way they did in the movie. I'd rather audiences hate joker for his acts of evil, rather than abuse of Harley.
+Mizuki Koneko-chan Er.....you think jumping out of a moving car while your girlfriend is still inside and leaving her to drown equates to "real love"? Also there was a deleted scene of him slapping the crap out of her, so...
When she's crying when Batman tells her that Joker doesn't really love her and is just using her, it shows that deep down she knows it's the truth and yet she's desperately trying to convince herself otherwise.
IN DEATH REBORN it's really the fantasy of it. I've thought about it too. Having a partner in crime that you're madly in love with. Doing evil things and never getting caught. Ofc it's 100% unrealistic, but it's still nice to think about.
A lot of people think (and Suicide Squad didn't help) that they had some sort of Bonnie and Clyde relationship. The more dedicated fans realize it was a relationship based entirely on emotional abuse.
This is why I like when Harley finally leaves and becomes her own villain/an anti-hero. Not only is she wonderful & actually quite the (if insane) genius on her own, but the way it always seems to irk the Joker that he can't control her anymore. Sure, in the new comics he eventually got a new sidekick, but still, it's wonderful to see that when he has no control over Harley, he has genuine competition for the crown of "Clown Prince of Crime"
People always argue that harley cant be a stand alone villian cause she would be nothing without the joker cause she's codependent. But id argue shes everything without the joker and more. She can finally be her own person.
On paper it sounds good but it takes a good writer to really make Harley shine. Just like Ultimate X-Men, there has yet been a writer who truly pulls off a solid Harley arc. They need to stop being cheap and pay Bruce Timm and Paul Dini to do her new comic. Those two Batman Animated creators understood what makes Harley great
I actually believe that in a way Harley is way more intelligent than Joker. She figured out the piranha thing on her own and many times the Joker's plans worked just because she helped him pull them off. And after she left him and became her own person, she did wonderfully. And here the Joker was mad at her not because "she doesn't get the joke", it's because she showed him that she could do better than him almost without effort
@@mysticfire5850 doesn’t mean he has to like it batman isn’t like that he’s the kinda guy that will save harley from joker and put her in jail away from him so she can be safe from him and stop hurting innocent people win win
The part that gets me is that Harley actually believed that, once Batman was gone, the Joker would love her, thank her and settle down with her. She really believed she could have a happy couple life with that maniac after killing Batman, when the reality would be the total opposite of that. If she killed Batman, the Joker would snap, get angry, shout at her and finally kill her for taking away one of the things he wanted the most to achieve. I feel so much sympathy for Harley because she actually illuded herself thinking a maniac could love her with so much Care and love.
I guess he wants to be the one who does the bidding. Hes so hell bent on playing games with batman for excitment and thrill its like a drug to him he cant get enough of it. And if anyone were to take that away his purpose for comitting crimes would be no longer there. His muse would be shattered
ShinobiPXO Indeed. I hate how they emasculated him with for example Amanda Waller's narration "she's crazier than he is. more fearless too." This is happening too often to male characters nowadays.
But this is goals? Everyone wants this right? WRONG! He pushed her out of a window for capturing and almost killing Batman on her own. Even the man, her enemy who she hates, told her that he was lying to and using her.
@@nataliawashington872 I heard that BTAS based the Joker’s and Harley Quinn’s relationship on how the real Bonnie and Clyde and what their relationship was like in real life. Rather tragic.
Here's one question I wish we could actually hear Batman (or Poison Ivy for that matter) ask Harley: "Has Joker ever ACTUALLY SAID that he loves you?" For God's sake, the man beats up Harley more than any hero or cop ever has to bring the poor nutjob in; so him showing that he loves her seems out of the question, but in all the episodes of every series she's ever been in, all the movies, and even the video games I personally can't remember Joker ever saying it. At best he views Harley as a possession or tool, something he can throw out and replace when he's either tired of her, or she's been useful for the last time. I realize the woman is out of her mind and her devotion to the Joker is the most obvious symptom; but I have to ask, what exactly has the Joker done to actually gain and maintain such devotion? None of the questionably "good" things he's ever done for her seem like they should be enough.
DragonmanX90 he actually loves Harley the creators of Harley Quinn confirmed it but the scene you mentioned was actually in one of the comics called Harley loves joker issue 2 where Harley talks with her other self and how she could be like without the joker and the other Harley asks that exact question
He also felt bad because he tricked Harley into contacting the Joker. Batman was completely powerless his only way out was for Joker to interfere which meant witnessing Harley being abused. Because he knew Joker wouldn't give anyone the honor of killing Batman unless it's by his hand.
I've been in batman's shoes in a situation like this before. A close friend of mine and her boyfriend has a relationship similar to harley and joker. On her perspective, they seem like a happy couple. But on his point of view, he only sees her as a form of entertainment . I told her many times to leave him, but she refused and always blamed herself. They eventually broke up when he had to leave the country, which left her devastated and blamed herself for not being good enough. I blamed myself because I failed to help her see the truth behind their relationship.
There is very little you could have done. If an abuse victim doesn't want your help, what would you do? Rush in like Shawn Mendes in a jock strap and carry her away? No. The only person who can break an abusive cycle is the person being abused. Offer to help, offer to listen, show her that there are alternatives. But don't be a white knight.
I'm going through the same thing. I have a friend whose husband treats her like S-H-I-T. I tried to tell her many times to leave his ass, and tried to tell her about the many different options she has in making her life better, but she won't listen to me. The problem is not with you. You are doing everything you can to help your friend, but it's a two-way street. She has to make the choice to accept your help, but she chooses not to. Sure, he may have manipulated her, but you can't blame yourself. Just do the best you can with whatever you have. That's all that you can do.
Which is why Deadpool is better for Harley Quinn than Joker ever could. To bad DC and Marvel cant come together. But read this if your interested in what i`m talking about www.fanfiction.net/s/10305191/1/Red-and-Black . I`m sure you will enjoy. This is a fantastic read I couldnt stop reading, and there is a second called Black and Red.
Wade Mercer just let him stay in his own universe also joker is one of the main Batman villains it would kill all the fun in reading Batman without the joker jeez
What are you talking about Harley's character was created by this show, they just probably made it more extreme in the comics, but younging this is the original source material for Harley.
Harleys voice is so heart breaking and painful realizing she isn't loved or wanted, just watching her brake down is horrible. also the implication that jokers had other hired help and the fact that they aren't around anymore means they are more than likely dead. She's just the most recent
Honestly, he would've lost his shit. If Harley even survived after Joker lost his shit, I think the damage to her psyche would've been more irreparable.
@@remington8617 We have _wildly_ different definitions of awesome. Sauron and Voldemort showing up halfway through what was _supposed_ to be a Batman movie lies very, very, _very_ far outside the spectrum of mine...
I truly don’t understand when people say they want a relationship like Joker and Harley or romantacize their relationship.. as Batman says, Joker doesn’t care about her at all but he knows how to control her and ensure she’s ready to help when he calls
And that's why I approve her relationship with Ivy (at least she treats her like a freaking person) and I'm happy that she finally understand and left him
In general I'm not too big a fan of batman, but i love how this scene effortlessly shows why he is appealing and powerful as a character. He is hung upside down over a tank of piranhas and he _still_ manages to gain control of the situation
And this my friends is why Harley's very healthy relationship with Ivy is adorable It's sad she doesn't get happiness in all universes But atleast she gets to be happy in some She deserves better And ivy treats her better For those of you out there who are like "But batman and Harley are cute" Their relationship is just as toxic as hers and jokers Maybe not physically But it is toxic Bruce doesn't really know how to express or give love Especially the kind she needs He's awkward He really doesn't know how to express himself or feelings very well And even if it wasn't toxic in the instances it's not It just doesn't work He can't give her what she needs
@@borealisnordlys8710 I liked that Version of Harley and Joker(well actually Jack), too. They also explained the new Harley, in her new outfit and Joker did not seem to notice that it was a diffrent person. Wich also shows how much he did not care for her.
@@thebilliejeansfandomvideos2004 it literally depends on the universe,the creator and their choice Ivy can be manipulative and very angry in some instances But most of the time she's made to just be a really good friend for Harley and open her eyes that joker is toxic In some instances joker is actually not even insane and they are a happy family It literally depends on who is writing the story It's not "fanservice" It's a creators choice And there are many different people who write the dc stories I'm just staying In most instances Ivy is super healthy for Harley
Man I love, how people said this was relationship goals. I saw this girl post some crap after watching suicide squad. she said, "he's my joker and I'm his Harley, perfect love # puddin."I go on and tell her, "so he beats you and treats you like shit oh ok, #read the damn comics and watch the batman's cartoon from the 90s." 10 minutes later she deleted the post hahah
round105 This isn’t the Harley/Joker that the younger generation grew up with.. they want what they saw in Suicide Squad where the Joker was actually good and protective over his Harley. That’s what teens and younger adults are liking.
Cristobal Hernandez it’s a fictional couple, it’s not gonna hurt that bad. And there is a nice way to say it, like why not say something like “you guys are not like Harley Quinn and joker, their relationship is so toxic! you are like catwoman and Batman, two badasses in love!”
"he said it was the circus" made me GASP. All her clown getup, her entire identity, it's all around him. He ruined her life. Also, her design reminds me of Spinel. They're fairly similar.
Looking back at this amazing show, they did an amazing job of demonstrating the mental struggle that victims of domestic abuse go through. Harley is constantly trying to impress the joker by going above and beyond in an attempt to make him fall in love with her, and then when the joker takes his anger out on her her immediate thought is that she was in the wrong. This just highlights how hard it is for these poor victims to step back and realise that they are in a toxic relationship.
Even Batman feel sorry for Harley for what Joker did to her, I really hate how Joker treated her like that, she deserve better than this. At least Suicide Squad Joker shown love for her.
@@foxshock5571 I mean even though Joketr is an abusive asshole and no woman should be treated like that, its hard to sympathize for someone who murders and terrorizes people because someone else tells them to and doesn't take any responsibility for it.
When I saw this episode, I was surprised they really went this far. Delving deeper into Harley's life, we witness as she experiences abuse after abuse, lie after lie, and how her life has been made not just miserable, but how the Joker put almost irreparable damage on her. Gotta give it to the dudes for pulling it off.
I felt bad for Harley here. She accomplished in one episode and plan what Joker couldn't in several episodes and plans. Yet Joker didn't care because he wanted to be the one to pull it off.
Harley Quinn is one of those villains that I constantly find myself rooting for. She didn't deserve any of the shit that's come her way, and I hate seeing her so devoted to Joker. It breaks my heart.
Wait, no. This isn't supposed to be Harley Quinn. Where's the crude humour full of gore and self-ironic pop-culture references? Where's the meaningless shock-value and the cursing? For those that need to be told, this was blatant sarcasm.
What's crazy, and I don't see it in the comments, is that Batman straight up sacrificed Harley getting her ass beat by Joker so he could escape. He knew Joker would only allow Batmams death by his own hands. Batman knew 100% he was getting out alive. I think he just tried to persuade Harley to letting him go before he resorted to something so cruel.
When I was little I knew there was something off about their relationship but I was too young to understand about abusive relationships. Watching this now, I can’t believe this was a kids show. It’s absolutely heartbreaking.
This is the cold, hard reality of their relationship. Harley only matters as long as she's useful. The moment she becomes an obstacle, she's dead to him. Literally.
I loved this series, it showed that no matter you motivation, or even if you don't have one: their actions are what make them villains. Even if don not see themselves as evil.
Back then, the Joker was just another villian, not the most loved villian, but in 2008 when the Dark Knight came out, people started admiring the Joker and startet the fanatism over the Joker
The stock market crashed and everybody lost their mind over it in 2008 . Joker suddenly became a icon against the scams pulled by the real estate industry. Burning money to declare bankruptcy made more sense than rewarding the people who set them up to be fired and evicted .
Remember Joker isn't Harley's love interest, he's her dark origin story.
Remember, without Joker, she is just Harleen Quinzale, some who disliked the name "Harley Quinn" before she met the Joker.
@@FoolishPrince Naw, she's Harley Quinn with or without
@@FoolishPrince “you got a Harley Quinn out of Harleen Quinzell?”-Harley Quinn 2019
@@FoolishPrince yeah even tho he did, he still is abusive towards Harley for just trying to help.
@@FoolishPrince Harleen Quinzel*
“My fault, I didn’t get the joke.” Poor thing. I also found it heartbreaking when she says Joker really does love her. And yet we all know that if he truly loved her, she wouldn’t have cuts, bruises as well as all the symptoms of emotional abuse and manipulation.
It was sad at the end how she was going to hate Joker but then he gave her a gift and she went back to the old ways
had better days that’s exactly how abusive relationships work. First is “Nobody will love you except for me” and distancing from family and friends, next is the hitting, punching, slapping and bruises, and finally it’s “I’m sorry, I won’t do it again, please come back” and the flowers and gifts. Then the cycle starts all over again.
Too bad Harley is too easily manipulated when it comes to Joker, why in my opinion being pushed out that window and almost dying should've been the biggest wake up call of Harley's life, i mean it sure would be for me if i were in her situation.
@@TheCommenterDragon unfortunately a lot of victims will go back to their abuser. As I mentioned earlier abuse is an endless cycle.
Though this episode is a good example of abusive relationships, and how heartbreaking they may be to witness, I’m glad in later interactions, Harley evolved into her own character. Independent from Joker and in a better relationship (Usually paired with Ivy, and or Cat Woman). It’s actually interesting in how, in some cases, she became more popular than Joker, and how much she’s evolved as a character.
It's not Harley's fault that she can't see the hate and abuse coming from Joker. In abusive relationships, the victim always figures it's their fault because of how manipulative their partner is. That's the sadness of this relationship.
true
but he never established himself as her love interest. she did
+thewb39 So that still gives him the right to hurt her?
+Rᴀɪɴʙᴏᴡ Sɴᴏᴡᴄᴏɴᴇ Absolutely not. Just means she should've left him alone since they were never anything.
+Rᴀɪɴʙᴏᴡ Sɴᴏᴡᴄᴏɴᴇ Obviously. Because he's strung her along long enough to falsely fill in that empty space in her life until she turned crazy. Now everything she does is to prove they're meant to be when that wasn't an intent in his mind.
This really touches on abusive relationships in a very heavy way.
I know, this gave me the feels
[GASP!] You're not Connor Murphy!
Hmm?
i felt like harley should get revenge and kill joker
This series was dark as hell tbh. What they did to Tim is arguably still one of the most disturbing things in "kids" animation. Ik it was Batman Beyond, but still the same characters.
Oh my God, Batman's laugh is scary.
margareth michelina agree 😂😂 or sounds like a evil villain
Pink Fluffy bear No wonder Harley is scared
margareth michelina and crying
Kevin Conroy sure made it work.
The batman who laughs XD
if its harley in trouble Joker pays no attention
if its batman in trouble Joker speeds down an empty city street in the middle of the night ready to murder people
Oh the irony
If joker didn't have bats around then who would he play cat and mouse with? As for Harley he couldn't care less because she's not his main objective.
sim24687193 That's because The Joker wants to kill Batman himself. He won't let anyone, not even Harley, take that pleasure away from him.
@@micahwatson7652 the joker doesn't want to kill batman
@@ez5900 "why can't he ever stay dead?" - Joker in Jokers wild...
Joker from the Animated Series is not against killing Batman.
Joker from the entire DC Animated Universe isn't against killing Batman; in fact, he even encourages Lex Luther to do it in a Justice League episode. Joker also wanted batman dead in Batman89.
Other movies/comic/books/tv series/games? Sure. But not the the DCAU.
EZ in this series he does he just wants it to be him who kills him
The sad part is relationships like these actually exist.
Mom and dad proved it to me
@@yules2597 haha same
@@yules2597 oh man sorry you had to go through that
@@yules2597 I’m so sorry
@@yules2597 the kicker is when your friends mom gets pushed into the bathtub and messes up her back and all the asshole can say is that "it looked funny" and he "didn't push her'
Not only did she come close to killing Batman, but she made him laugh. Two things Joker was never able to do.
Edit: I meant Harley did both in this universe. I know Joker did both in the Killing Joke.
+Joe Acosta then you never read the killing joke before, have you?
+dakentaijutsu2010 like Cybermat47 said, that was a different universe from a one shot story. I meant Harley did those two things in this universe.
Just watched the killing joke... He made him laugh from there
+Welp only because it was the last thing joker would ever hear. He killed him in the last minute
Jokers made batman laugh... In the killing joke... Probably harder then Harley did here
"the joker doesn't love anyone but himself...and me"
me
***** everyone does
I didnt hear him say that
No he can not feel Love
@@lol-ur9ek Yeah
Omg... she flinches when Joker raises his hand, even when he's just pointing or gesturing to something... thats so sad
I feel so bad for her. She deserves someone better. Harley is so blind to see that the Joker didn't care. Love truly is so blind.
Oh No good eye bro
It symbolises real life abusive relationships
@@slumcity9092 what the fuck no?
@@slumcity9092 no
I never really saw Harley as a villain after this episode.
She was manipulated from the start and couldn't break her obsession with the Joker.
Unfortunately, Joker just saw her as a pawn that he could use and abuse, knowing that she would come back to him.
I always saw her as a villain. She chose to let joker manipulated her. She deserves to be in jail just like joker. Its not like joker had a mind control device. Harley was stupid enough to believe he loved her. Harley knew joker killed people, but still loved him. I feel bad that joker abuses her, but she doesn't deserve to get out scot free.
Taylor T The victim doesn't deserve as much punishment than the abuser, what the fuck is wrong with you??
@@thecartoonvault5381 but you act like Harley didn't just go out of her way to kidnap Batman who was a essentially a super cop in attempt to murder him via piranha and you mean to tell me that she doesn't deserve to be in prison forever lol no I think you're the sick one 😂😂😂😂
gor9027 actually joker just made her realize her violent personality and freed it she was always into criminal stuff just someone had to teach that to her this was mentioned in many different comic book story’s of Harley Quinn she knows what she’s doing is bad and she is aware of everything joker didn’t manipulated her to have a violent personality out of no where it was always there (sorry if my English is bad it’s not my native language)
k wach the whole series, she was always the victim just blinded by love, not that complicated
In my opinion, the main reason he was upset was because Harley did a better job than he did.
sawson9992 imagine how he felt when bane breaks Batman’s back because he want to be the one who defeats Batman
I’m sure it added to his rage, he just wants to be the one to do it.
With his obsession for Batman I don’t think he could take it if someone else killed Batman. Joker would probably kill that person too who killed Batman out of a blind rage for taking away his greatest nemesis.
She actually did better then him evan Batman admitted it
nah. i think it goes into the whole ' i dont want to kill you. what would i do without you.'
When people ask me why I don't find the "Harley Quinn and Mista J" dynamic cute I show them this scene.
why so serious
you show them a 5 minute scene? bro thats boring as fuck lmao, nobody wants to be shown a 5 minute scene during conversation
@@joshshuter7536 wow man you must be FUUUN at parties. No dawg I tell them, "bruh Joker legit slapped Harley Quinn out of a 3 story window for kidnapping Batman and torturing him because he was insecure and jealous of his girl doing what he couldn't."
@@joshshuter7536 maybe you just have a short ass attention span
@Just a normal nazgul okay :(
I don't think Joker actually wants Batman to die because then he will be bored....
It's like Sherlock and Moriarty...
Yeah, this has been touched upon in The Dark Knight Returns. When Batman left, Joker just went into a vegetable state because he had no purpose.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAGAHAHAHAHAH uh..uh...i can't...uhm...i was thinking about that the whole time i was watching this...hahaha..oh my...I MISS YOU, JIM
+Cassandra Taruc I miss you too Cassandra
+Jim “From” IT i should see you in a crown again
lol
DId we see domestic violence in a kid's cartoon? I think we just saw domestic violence in a kid's cartoon.
Kinos141 Also, the only person Joker loves other than himself, is Batman.
Did you watch Avatar the last airbender? That show had CHILD abuse in it.
aderose You mean with Zuko and his dad? Yeah, that was mean, but it wasn't as direct as this.
Kinos141
true true
This was before the Pussy PC era that we live in today
I remember in this episode after Batman wins he told Joker that Harley actually got the best of him and she could have killed him if it weren't for The Joker interfering.
Hehehe Miss me
Daria Daniluk "Demon"? no no your on the side of the angels
+Sir Boast-a-lot We both are..... However, heaven isn't really my division
Daria Daniluk oh how boring.. :p
+Sir Boast-a-lot Oh but my dear admire these *ordinary* people... aren't they adorable?
Even Batman flinched when Joker struck Harley. If Harley didn’t chain Batman then he could’ve saved her from Joker. I like Harley as she is now becoming stronger and more independent. I really hope they never stop boosting her.
Batman is an escape artist though. Perhaps he let it all happen just for a sick reality check for Harley
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Ooohh :(
@@mr.l8723 he wouldn't, he's saved Harley multiple times and knows how crazy Joker is he would have definitely saved her from the Joker
@@mikewheeler6059 he did in a way. She wouldn't believe batman so she had to witness it first hand from the joker, batman telling Harley everything was just a trick to get her to call the joker so she could witness the true reality.
Oh please in another comic joker had to choose to save Batman or Harley he obviously chose Batman while Harley slowly fell into the acid Batman ignored her and ran for joker like he doesn’t care he doesn’t kill but he will let some villains die like he said on Arkham knight he said to joker “why would I care if you died”
This is their real relationship. But suicide squad went for something a little different
I heard about that
+Juvia FullbusterIce yup joker really showed love for Haley in the movie. Nothing like this
+Mizuki Koneko-chan in a way I'm kinda glad they portrayed them the way they did in the movie. I'd rather audiences hate joker for his acts of evil, rather than abuse of Harley.
+Mizuki Koneko-chan Er.....you think jumping out of a moving car while your girlfriend is still inside and leaving her to drown equates to "real love"?
Also there was a deleted scene of him slapping the crap out of her, so...
Evaldasa Evaldasa I think he left her in the car becuz he knew Batman would save her
Batman always has a soft spot for Harley, but he isn't dumb either to let her in, she's as manipulative like joker.
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In injustice batman takes in harley and she joins the batfamily and becomes a ally to batman
That’s because in this series Harley doesn’t know what real love is.
@@svrmaster103 This is Harley, this is her origin. Everything else is just imitation capitalizing on messed up girls who identify with her.
@@bannedmann4469 What about her own show? That too?
When she's crying when Batman tells her that Joker doesn't really love her and is just using her, it shows that deep down she knows it's the truth and yet she's desperately trying to convince herself otherwise.
Of course harley quinn is joker's punching bag.
Lmfao
Girls be on Facebook saying they want a relationship like Harley and the Joker
IN DEATH REBORN it's really the fantasy of it. I've thought about it too. Having a partner in crime that you're madly in love with. Doing evil things and never getting caught. Ofc it's 100% unrealistic, but it's still nice to think about.
A lot of people think (and Suicide Squad didn't help) that they had some sort of Bonnie and Clyde relationship. The more dedicated fans realize it was a relationship based entirely on emotional abuse.
More like SMFH
if you seen deleted seens of suicide squad youll know
🤣 wtf, do they really?!
This is why I like when Harley finally leaves and becomes her own villain/an anti-hero. Not only is she wonderful & actually quite the (if insane) genius on her own, but the way it always seems to irk the Joker that he can't control her anymore. Sure, in the new comics he eventually got a new sidekick, but still, it's wonderful to see that when he has no control over Harley, he has genuine competition for the crown of "Clown Prince of Crime"
People always argue that harley cant be a stand alone villian cause she would be nothing without the joker cause she's codependent. But id argue shes everything without the joker and more. She can finally be her own person.
Did you see Harley Quinn animation series
On paper it sounds good but it takes a good writer to really make Harley shine. Just like Ultimate X-Men, there has yet been a writer who truly pulls off a solid Harley arc. They need to stop being cheap and pay Bruce Timm and Paul Dini to do her new comic. Those two Batman Animated creators understood what makes Harley great
Hey I'm new to DC when did Harley quinn and joker break up what comic is it i can't find it
I actually believe that in a way Harley is way more intelligent than Joker. She figured out the piranha thing on her own and many times the Joker's plans worked just because she helped him pull them off. And after she left him and became her own person, she did wonderfully. And here the Joker was mad at her not because "she doesn't get the joke", it's because she showed him that she could do better than him almost without effort
Even Batman doesn’t like it when Harley gets smacked
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Batman does not enjoy other people's suffering even if they deserve it?
He's well aware Harleys a manipulated victim
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@@mysticfire5850 doesn’t mean he has to like it batman isn’t like that he’s the kinda guy that will save harley from joker and put her in jail away from him so she can be safe from him and stop hurting innocent people win win
@@user-lp1ty1ly5i Haha
No
The part that gets me is that Harley actually believed that, once Batman was gone, the Joker would love her, thank her and settle down with her. She really believed she could have a happy couple life with that maniac after killing Batman, when the reality would be the total opposite of that.
If she killed Batman, the Joker would snap, get angry, shout at her and finally kill her for taking away one of the things he wanted the most to achieve.
I feel so much sympathy for Harley because she actually illuded herself thinking a maniac could love her with so much Care and love.
I guess he wants to be the one who does the bidding. Hes so hell bent on playing games with batman for excitment and thrill its like a drug to him he cant get enough of it. And if anyone were to take that away his purpose for comitting crimes would be no longer there. His muse would be shattered
Hi, I made a Harley Quinn edit
A song that matches her ♥️🖤
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y'all still want a relationship like them?
I'm sure they still do because they're going of Suicide Squad (movie)
Roxias there r still people who only seen their relationship in the suicide squad version and never searched about this shit so yeah
Blue Boi
Agreed. Dumbasses never knew she was only ever his scapegoat. A play thing or Slap stick and little else.
Kind and queen of Gotham my ASS
youre talking about people who never liked cartoons or liked the show they just seen the hype.. and said HASHTAG GOAAAAAAALS... fucking foolery
Roxias yes
This is what we should've got in Suicide Squad.
I was expecting this the whole time, but it was practically a love story in that movie.
I know right. I mean, the roles are pretty much reversed, with Joker busting his ass to rescue Harley when it's normally the other way around.
+spongey thinkers then again, loads of joker scenes were cut out. I feel that it may have been more abusive and complicated with the deleted scenes.
Naveed shakeel
Maybe, but at the part where Harley jumped into the chemicals, joker actually pushed her in in the comics.
ShinobiPXO Indeed. I hate how they emasculated him with for example Amanda Waller's narration "she's crazier than he is. more fearless too."
This is happening too often to male characters nowadays.
But this is goals? Everyone wants this right? WRONG! He pushed her out of a window for capturing and almost killing Batman on her own. Even the man, her enemy who she hates, told her that he was lying to and using her.
Yes, everyone wants to be abused...it's human nature.
Leah Necole in trying to figure out where are you guys found these girls wanting their relationships to be like Joker and Harley's lmao
YBShaun it’s mostly on Suicide Squad videos since that movie made them look like a Bonnie and Clyde relationship when it’s really abusive
@@nataliawashington872 I heard that BTAS based the Joker’s and Harley Quinn’s relationship on how the real Bonnie and Clyde and what their relationship was like in real life. Rather tragic.
@@amandadane868 Don't know much about Bonnie and Clyde but was it this bad?
She was close to killing batman closer than anybody and it almost got her killed. What a dark moment.
Joker doesn't want Batman to die. He likes playing this game with him. Also *DAMN* he really pushed Harley out the window.
Here's one question I wish we could actually hear Batman (or Poison Ivy for that matter) ask Harley: "Has Joker ever ACTUALLY SAID that he loves you?" For God's sake, the man beats up Harley more than any hero or cop ever has to bring the poor nutjob in; so him showing that he loves her seems out of the question, but in all the episodes of every series she's ever been in, all the movies, and even the video games I personally can't remember Joker ever saying it. At best he views Harley as a possession or tool, something he can throw out and replace when he's either tired of her, or she's been useful for the last time. I realize the woman is out of her mind and her devotion to the Joker is the most obvious symptom; but I have to ask, what exactly has the Joker done to actually gain and maintain such devotion? None of the questionably "good" things he's ever done for her seem like they should be enough.
DragonmanX90 he actually loves Harley the creators of Harley Quinn confirmed it but the scene you mentioned was actually in one of the comics called Harley loves joker issue 2 where Harley talks with her other self and how she could be like without the joker and the other Harley asks that exact question
Even if Joker said that he loves her, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s an abusive relationship…
Even Batman cringed when Joker hit her, he felt sorry for her seeing her treated like that... :(
He also felt bad because he tricked Harley into contacting the Joker. Batman was completely powerless his only way out was for Joker to interfere which meant witnessing Harley being abused. Because he knew Joker wouldn't give anyone the honor of killing Batman unless it's by his hand.
'cringed'? He WINCED. Cringing is when something is CRINGE, not painful
@@i_am_only_an_insane_person That.. Isn't what cringing means.
@@jonarbuckle It is in my eyes lol
@@i_am_only_an_insane_person okay insane person
I've been in batman's shoes in a situation like this before. A close friend of mine and her boyfriend has a relationship similar to harley and joker. On her perspective, they seem like a happy couple. But on his point of view, he only sees her as a form of entertainment . I told her many times to leave him, but she refused and always blamed herself. They eventually broke up when he had to leave the country, which left her devastated and blamed herself for not being good enough. I blamed myself because I failed to help her see the truth behind their relationship.
There is very little you could have done. If an abuse victim doesn't want your help, what would you do? Rush in like Shawn Mendes in a jock strap and carry her away? No. The only person who can break an abusive cycle is the person being abused. Offer to help, offer to listen, show her that there are alternatives. But don't be a white knight.
I'm going through the same thing. I have a friend whose husband treats her like S-H-I-T. I tried to tell her many times to leave his ass, and tried to tell her about the many different options she has in making her life better, but she won't listen to me.
The problem is not with you. You are doing everything you can to help your friend, but it's a two-way street. She has to make the choice to accept your help, but she chooses not to. Sure, he may have manipulated her, but you can't blame yourself. Just do the best you can with whatever you have. That's all that you can do.
I hope she's doing better now.
You can lead a horse to water but...
@@ButterflyQueene07 Any news on what happened next?
I feel sorry for Harley.
Me too. Personally I would have jumped after her and tried to save her
Which is why Deadpool is better for Harley Quinn than Joker ever could. To bad DC and Marvel cant come together. But read this if your interested in what i`m talking about www.fanfiction.net/s/10305191/1/Red-and-Black . I`m sure you will enjoy. This is a fantastic read I couldnt stop reading, and there is a second called Black and Red.
Wade Mercer deadpool would kill the joker if he saw the joker hit Harley
Panzo Pando she does like him
Wade Mercer just let him stay in his own universe also joker is one of the main Batman villains it would kill all the fun in reading Batman without the joker jeez
The sad part is is that this is a toned down version from the comics, in here it was kicked down a couple notches so that this could be a kids show
No, Harley originated here. Yes, it was toned down because, it was a kids show but, it wasn't from the comics. She came from here.
Harley came from tas. She joined the comics later on
This show was her debut,she was so popular she was adapted into the comic.
@@ZeldaSeiya That’s not what he or she meant there was a comic version of this episode which was darker than the cartoon
What are you talking about Harley's character was created by this show, they just probably made it more extreme in the comics, but younging this is the original source material for Harley.
Harleys voice is so heart breaking and painful realizing she isn't loved or wanted, just watching her brake down is horrible. also the implication that jokers had other hired help and the fact that they aren't around anymore means they are more than likely dead. She's just the most recent
Aw :(
I hate seeing Harley cry
@Nobody no worries we worked it out :). He called me family eek!!
@@harleyquinn8325 he doesn’t love you he loves himself and batman
@@rockzilla1664 I think it would be best for me to stay with ivy for now.
@@harleyquinn8325 exactly
Same... :(
I would've hug her without second thoughts.
Possibly one of the best representations of an abusive relationship in any form of media.
Bruce is honest, that's what friends and foes alike respect about him.
Harley is like a representation for the people who've been in abusive relationships and just want someone to love.
the sad thing about abusive people is that all their excuses for their behavior may be true, it just doesn't excuse any of it.
Woww this Harley voice acting is really impressive. It’s so emotive but it’s not too much. The VAs in this show are mwah chefs kiss.
Helped by Andrea Romano's deft touch as a Voice Director.
Damn! Just imagine how Joker would be if he knows that Harley made Batman laugh.
Then, Joker would've killed her
Honestly, he would've lost his shit.
If Harley even survived after Joker lost his shit, I think the damage to her psyche would've been more irreparable.
This could NEVER be shown on TV for kids today, without someone complaining😂😂😂 proud to be a 90s kid
"Batman the Animated Series"... AKA one of the best shows ever!!
Indeed
It's funny how he can't get the Piranhas to smile yet there was an entire episode revolved around smiling fish back in the Animated Series
"the Joker doesn't love anyone but himself". After watching the Lego Batman Movie, I must disagree Bats.
How can _you_ of all people (what with your username) take that movie seriously?
@@f.i.r.e.5119 umm idk. Maybe cause it's an awesome movie.
@@remington8617
We have _wildly_ different definitions of awesome.
Sauron and Voldemort showing up halfway through what was _supposed_ to be a Batman movie lies very, very, _very_ far outside the spectrum of mine...
@@f.i.r.e.5119 Sure bro, you have the right to despise the movie. But it's adored by alot of people, So dont be surprised when people talk about it.
@@remington8617
Right. I get _that._
All I _don't_ get is _why_ it did so well.
"My fault i didn't get the joke"
She the ass kickin instead
@@rileyfreeman1531 Lmao
And she always blames herself
I truly don’t understand when people say they want a relationship like Joker and Harley or romantacize their relationship.. as Batman says, Joker doesn’t care about her at all but he knows how to control her and ensure she’s ready to help when he calls
This is the episode I fell in love with Quinn. I wanted so badly for her to get out of that relationship. Well flawed and brilliant.
"My fault, i didn't get the joke"
It's heartbreaking that even after getting thrown off a building, she is under his influence...
"I want a relationship like the Joker's and Harley's!" No... No you dont
"You little fool." Fucking love that line.
And that's why I approve her relationship with Ivy (at least she treats her like a freaking person) and I'm happy that she finally understand and left him
@3:29 do you know how hard you gotta smack someone to make someone watching it flinch 😭😭😭
Especially making the batman flinch
Feel bad for her but how she taking all that abuse
1:39 I like how The Dark Knight used Joker's constant lies about his past in a similar way.
3:29 That hit was so brutal even Batman flinched. Lol
3:29
Batman knew Joker would snap when he found Harley with Batman.
In general I'm not too big a fan of batman, but i love how this scene effortlessly shows why he is appealing and powerful as a character. He is hung upside down over a tank of piranhas and he _still_ manages to gain control of the situation
And this my friends is why Harley's very healthy relationship with Ivy is adorable
It's sad she doesn't get happiness in all universes
But atleast she gets to be happy in some
She deserves better
And ivy treats her better
For those of you out there who are like
"But batman and Harley are cute"
Their relationship is just as toxic as hers and jokers
Maybe not physically
But it is toxic
Bruce doesn't really know how to express or give love
Especially the kind she needs
He's awkward
He really doesn't know how to express himself or feelings very well
And even if it wasn't toxic in the instances it's not
It just doesn't work
He can't give her what she needs
Joker and Harley from white knight is way better
@@borealisnordlys8710 every joker and Harley relationship is ment to be toxic
Except for the universes on which he is normal and they have kids
She occasionally gets her happiness from the bat family at times. Dick Grayson especially. *ehem*
@@borealisnordlys8710 I liked that Version of Harley and Joker(well actually Jack), too. They also explained the new Harley, in her new outfit and Joker did not seem to notice that it was a diffrent person. Wich also shows how much he did not care for her.
@@thebilliejeansfandomvideos2004 it literally depends on the universe,the creator and their choice
Ivy can be manipulative and very angry in some instances
But most of the time she's made to just be a really good friend for Harley and open her eyes that joker is toxic
In some instances joker is actually not even insane and they are a happy family
It literally depends on who is writing the story
It's not "fanservice"
It's a creators choice
And there are many different people who write the dc stories
I'm just staying
In most instances
Ivy is super healthy for Harley
I’m so glad that they made her break up with joker now.
Man I love, how people said this was relationship goals. I saw this girl post some crap after watching suicide squad. she said, "he's my joker and I'm his Harley, perfect love # puddin."I go on and tell her, "so he beats you and treats you like shit oh ok, #read the damn comics and watch the batman's cartoon from the 90s." 10 minutes later she deleted the post hahah
She was talking about the Joker version of the movie. What do comics and animated series?
round105 This isn’t the Harley/Joker that the younger generation grew up with.. they want what they saw in Suicide Squad where the Joker was actually good and protective over his Harley. That’s what teens and younger adults are liking.
Faeries_Xylia 923 the joker was still shit to her in the movie. He tortured her remember?
Good job, you isolated a young fan. Why not be nicer and say something positive?
Cristobal Hernandez it’s a fictional couple, it’s not gonna hurt that bad. And there is a nice way to say it, like why not say something like “you guys are not like Harley Quinn and joker, their relationship is so toxic! you are like catwoman and Batman, two badasses in love!”
“It’s my fault I didn’t get the joke” I feel so bad poor Harley 🥲
she don’t deserve this :[
"he said it was the circus" made me GASP. All her clown getup, her entire identity, it's all around him. He ruined her life.
Also, her design reminds me of Spinel. They're fairly similar.
@@charamcnuggers9534 Maybe Harley inspired Spinel's design
Looking back at this amazing show, they did an amazing job of demonstrating the mental struggle that victims of domestic abuse go through. Harley is constantly trying to impress the joker by going above and beyond in an attempt to make him fall in love with her, and then when the joker takes his anger out on her her immediate thought is that she was in the wrong. This just highlights how hard it is for these poor victims to step back and realise that they are in a toxic relationship.
This is exactly why I could never buy their love story. Joker is so crazy that he thinks Harley is just another goon for him to abuse.
Imagine how mad the Joker would have been if he knew Harley made Batman laugh.
First Charlie, now Harley. The clown is losing his edge...
2:38
whenever batman shows off hes really the world's greatest detective... its a great batman show
2:30 Even the dogs look concerned LMAO
Those are hyenas
I remember seeing this as a child to this day it breaks my heart
3:00. WHAT!! Oh. Hi Harley
Hi
look at my pic :D
Damn Batman cringed?
Even Batman feel sorry for Harley for what Joker did to her, I really hate how Joker treated her like that, she deserve better than this.
At least Suicide Squad Joker shown love for her.
I think it was more of an angry expression at joker hitting Harley
@@foxshock5571 I mean even though Joketr is an abusive asshole and no woman should be treated like that, its hard to sympathize for someone who murders and terrorizes people because someone else tells them to and doesn't take any responsibility for it.
@@Arkhuman11 That's totally true...
so sad:( she is cute
+william mcreynolds she didn't die tho....................luckily
one fact in the comic book of this episode she almost died she had to be rushed to the hospital
william mcreynolds so sad, Gordon play despacito -jk call the ambulance
This show is better than all the movies combined.
3:13 when your girl texts sayin' she's home alone
For me this is the moment you realize how twisted btas joker really is and obviously return of the joker as well
It's okay guys
The joker was on his period
LOL
What a lame joke
otox You're a lame joke.
Nick's Sugar Daddy Are you eleven years old?
XD
When I saw this episode, I was surprised they really went this far. Delving deeper into Harley's life, we witness as she experiences abuse after abuse, lie after lie, and how her life has been made not just miserable, but how the Joker put almost irreparable damage on her.
Gotta give it to the dudes for pulling it off.
This version of her character actually turned her life around and started a family after the Joker died
Yes I truly see now why Suicide Squad had them as an actual couple.
Harley: Clever?
Batman: Brilliant.
Relationship Goals! YEAH!
ha ha ha.
The Stutterer gets thrown off a building ! So romantic!?
1:09 When Batman laughs, the universe gets chills.
3:30 DAMN !! joker got a arm
Joker felt threatened by Harley coming so close to defeating Batman, because he’s supposed to be the best, the king; that’s why he was so pissed
I felt bad for Harley here. She accomplished in one episode and plan what Joker couldn't in several episodes and plans. Yet Joker didn't care because he wanted to be the one to pull it off.
0:27 I love the delivery of that "why"
I love how even the TAS Joker basically has a "my father" story he tells people. lol
If anyone ever mentions joker and harley as relationship goals all i gotta do i play them this clip.
Harley Quinn is one of those villains that I constantly find myself rooting for. She didn't deserve any of the shit that's come her way, and I hate seeing her so devoted to Joker. It breaks my heart.
Wait, no. This isn't supposed to be Harley Quinn. Where's the crude humour full of gore and self-ironic pop-culture references? Where's the meaningless shock-value and the cursing?
For those that need to be told, this was blatant sarcasm.
Exactly, like it or not this is Harley Quinn
Man I remember as a kid watching this, kinda screwed with my head big time.
What's crazy, and I don't see it in the comments, is that Batman straight up sacrificed Harley getting her ass beat by Joker so he could escape. He knew Joker would only allow Batmams death by his own hands. Batman knew 100% he was getting out alive. I think he just tried to persuade Harley to letting him go before he resorted to something so cruel.
Batman is a savage bro.
*doesn't cry when titanic shows on TV*
*cries every time when I see the joker pushing harley out of a window*
When I was little I knew there was something off about their relationship but I was too young to understand about abusive relationships. Watching this now, I can’t believe this was a kids show. It’s absolutely heartbreaking.
0:50
Cool detail with the Windows...
Makes it look like there's blood in the pool.
This is the cold, hard reality of their relationship. Harley only matters as long as she's useful. The moment she becomes an obstacle, she's dead to him. Literally.
This is actually so sad
I loved this series, it showed that no matter you motivation, or even if you don't have one: their actions are what make them villains. Even if don not see themselves as evil.
Back then, the Joker was just another villian, not the most loved villian, but in 2008 when the Dark Knight came out, people started admiring the Joker and startet the fanatism over the Joker
The stock market crashed and everybody lost their mind over it in 2008 . Joker suddenly became a icon against the scams pulled by the real estate industry. Burning money to declare bankruptcy made more sense than rewarding the people who set them up to be fired and evicted .
2:09 YOU'RE WRONG! MY PUDDIN LOVE ME HE DOES!
R.I.P. Shirley Walker
R.I.P. Kevin Conroy and Arleen Sorkin 😭😭😢😭