BREAKING! Alpine SPEAKS OUT On Piastri’s Loyalty!
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The Piastri saga gets more and more interesting with every day that passes by! After the Aussie rejected his guaranteed seat in Alpine, criticism came all over him. Many said his move was foolish and he should’ve signed with Alpine for the next season. The latest one to criticize Piastri for his decision is Otmar Szafnauer, the Team Principal of Alpine, as he expected him to choose differently when he was presented with the opportunity. Stay tuned as you might be surprised with what Otmar has to say!
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Do you think what Piastri did was acceptable? 👇
Well it's hard to say, he's just looking out for this 2023 seat in F1
He is just very ungrateful!
@@barrycraig9337 Totally!
Absolutely not, he forgot his roots
@@gpshorts4306 Yes he should be sued!
From a layman's point of view, if Piastri's contract wasn't activated by end of July 31st, then on August 1st he is free to go elsewhere. As for Alpine seeking compensation for the costs associated with Piastri's formative years.. Tough tatas, Piastri met his obligations until the expiration of his contract. Is there something to be said about personal morality and ethical behaviour? Possibly, but let's face it, there are many big companies that throw ethics and morality to the wind when it comes down to cold hard cash. Can't blame a youngster for doing likewise. Tough luck Alpine, you got played playa!
He placed a major target on his back. I understand his contract ran out , but it seems that he didn’t even give the common Courtesy to let the team that have invested millions in him to know he is seeking other options if his contract won’t be exercised. If he doesn’t do any better than Danny or live up to the hype , what’s next for him? He burned a major bridge which is what you don’t do in business unless you have been mistreated
Thanks for racing into the comments Drew! Very valid pointers your made. But do you think Piastri should have a little more faith in the team that has been backing him the whole time?
@@groundhabit6408 absolutely! never burn bridges, and the F1 space only has a few of em.
@@gpcentral
Good point, only the teams themselves can act like @$$h0l€S and treat people badly.
Yes Alpine put a lot of time and money into him but you can bet your last dollar/Euro that the second Piastri stopped being useful to them they'd toss him out like yesterday's birdshit covered newspaper.
Wait nobody reads newspapers anymore, everything is on computers, so tossing them out would get expensive 😉.
Look at how RBR treated Gasley and Albon or how McLaren's treating Daniel, there are more examples but like my phone's battery my brain 🧠 🙃 has run out of power (yeah yeah I know it does,n't have much power at the best of times).
@@groundhabit6408 nah.
Alpine had every chance to put him in a car or secure him a drive. They took him for granted and didn't give him what he needed by the deadline they agreed to.
They were taking him for granted and it bit them.
Personally, I feel both are not at fault. Nobody expected Vettel's retirement and nobody expected Alonso's move to Aston Martin. It looked like Alonso would continue in Alpine in 2023 too, which made Piastri look for other opportunities. If a deal was signed with McLaren before Alonso's move, there is nothing Piastri can do. Everyone were just caught off-guard.
Thanks for your thoughts Akash! Yeah very true that it was an unexpected move for all
He should have run it by the team first before signing. The team that invested so much on him and made him who he is. Not to announce via twitter
@@gamatoutsikos why.., Alpine had an option date which had expired. Why should he advertise that he was looking for a new job?
@@rtyler1869 had it expire though? They are saying they will go to court
@@gamatoutsikos they took it to the FIA Contracts Panel (or what it was called) and that ruled against Alpine.
The option was there and not exercised. .
This all started when Renault committed to a long term contract with Ocan when they had a 2 time world champion in Alonso and Piastri waiting in their hands.
Yeah! What should you think they do with Ocon now?
@GP Central throw him to Williams to replace Latifi since there are rumors that Williams will be using Renault engine, and who knows if Ocon and Albon can bring William up in the midfield
Do with Ocon now? There’s nothing to do. He keeps driving while they scrounge around for a new teammate.
Fr*nch 🤢
"I expected more loyalty from Oscar" says someone who was working to ensure he does NOT get a drive with them for at least one, possibly two more seasons. Had Alonso not screwed them over with his excellently timed announcement, Piastri would've been called a fool for turning down a confirmed McLaren seat over an unconfirmed Williams seat.
Great point there CL! Do you think if Ocon was not in the other seat, things would have been different?
@@gpcentral Well, sure, for Piastri. But don't think it will change anything with Alonso. Alonso gave them the finger because they wanted to play safe with him by giving him a 1+1 years contract. Nothing to do with who is in the other seat.
The problem in Alpine is that they've put the focus on Ocon as their main driver, and he's a B category at his best.
@@TheDjanev And Ocon is more focused on beating his teammates than moving up the grid, even though he still loses to Alonso.
100% acceptable on Oscar's part. If Alpine really wanted him this much, they should have committed to him or Alonso long before this point. Letting their drivers hanging without confirmation is Alpine's downfall. They couldn't keep Piastri or Alonso happy and they both left. They should have committed to one of them atleast.
Thanks for taking the time to comment Gotiyababa! Yeah it seems Otmar was playing and now he got played!
Honestly, there are multiple things to say here.
First off, it's Alpine fault to sign a multiyear contract with ocon and basically making him driver #1. They just do this purely because he's French and the team boss is also French (and Renault is also French) so yeah it's a marketing move but at cost of growth and potential better drivers.
Alpine also has stated that they weren't foreseen with Alonso's departure, meaning Piastri wouldn't have raced in 2023 for Alpine.
With that being said, this alone would already been enough for Piastri to leave in my opinion.
2ndly, Zack Brown also revealed that there are clauses in Daniel's contract, meaning he was hinting towards potential drivers from other teams to scout into McLaren. Piastri was one of them and he convinced McLaren to buy him over. Since Alpine still had the plan to go with Ocon (1) and Alonso (2) in 2023, this leaves Piastri no choice but to change team for the next season.
Leaving a guy who won all formula cups first try out for 2 years is way too long. Alpine missed their chance and they have to pay their price for the bad decision making.
edit: for the people thinking that Piastri "robbed" or "scammed" Alpine, this is not true. As Max said earlier this season, companies invest in drivers under contracts. They get their paid share back over time once they become an well established F1 driver. Meaning if Alphine had laid out a good contract, they won't lose their money and Piastri will still pay their investments in him back.
Also, the fact that it seems Alpine just decided that he would drive for them without checking with him, idk something doesn't sit right with me that they publicly announced he would be driving for them when there hadn't even been a contract signed
I agree with you there !!!!!
@@nordvestgaming1238 very good point.
@@nordvestgaming1238 yeah absolutely
@@PartyMain great pointers Party! Thanks for dropping by in the comments!
Come on if Alpine would have an advantage in getting rid of Piastri they would do it without a blink of an eye. A promise means nothing in F1 unless it's signed on paper and with an army of lawyers.
facts there
But muh loyalty
Alpine is currently 4th in the constructors championship, I think Alpine needs to investigate why drivers like Alonso & Piastri don't want to drive for them?
Terrible leadership
Yeah I agree they have a great car but bad management. Should have been Piastri and Alonso this season.
Very terrible
Yeah can't agree more with you Mark, do you think it's due to Ocon? Hmmm
Because Ocon has a 4 year contract and they’re keeping Alonso on indefinite probation.
Kind of amusing that teams and some fans demand loyalty from drivers, but give teams a free pass
Do these names ring a bell to Alpine/Renault and Otmar? Hulkenberg, Perez, Sainz Jr, Magnussen.
Thanks for dropping by in the comments Midori :)
that perez thing is sooo true
Sorry for my ignorance but were any other of those drivers built up from within Renault?
@@cheesyriceo4 And why should that make a difference? You either treat everyone with integrity or you don't have any. Integrity is not a selective concept.
I get a bit of a feeling that it isn't Alpine he doesn't want to drive for, it's Esteban he doesn't want to drive with. Literally 1 day after Ocons legendary blocking on Alonso letting Riccardo go through, Fernando announces he's leaving to go to team stroll. I'd have done the same as piastri
Thanks for dropping by in the comments Erik! Absolutely facts there. Having a partner do that to you is just ridiculous.
I was thinking the same too, soon as I seen Alonso get blocked and his responses over the last 2 races he was gonna go, wouldn't be surprised if he even talked to Piastri to get him to stay away from Alpine for his own sake.
@@gpcentral it's not even the first time he's done it. Did it earlier in the season and let hamilton through. Granted hamilton would've eventually got by without the help
Alpine had a great prospect, and they blew it..Loyalty must be earned.
Hey Geoff McMahon! Thanks for taking the time to drop by in the comments! Yeah they for sure blew it!
Yeah, and they had Piastri as well.
Definitely acceptable.
Let's be honest, Oscar wasn't on their first plan for 2023, and a skilled driver like him should have already been driving in 2022, it didn't surprised me at all, this guy is potentially a future world champion and Alpin was preferring the past.
They(Alpin) are the only ones to blame for losing Oscar, they didn't treat him with the respect he deserved. Charles and Russell wasn't spent their first year after winning f2 as a test driver's because their teams realized that they are the future of the sport.
Absolutely true there Ron!
You’re suggesting they needed to fire Alonso?
@BobC they need to fire Ocon
The board management at Alpine/Renault must now take the steps of dismissing Otmar Safnauer and whomever for allowing this episode to spiral out into total mess
A manufacturer such as Renault with it's subsidiary, Alpine should not be struggling in the midfield and should be front runners like they we're as Benetton, Renault F1.
You have the most experienced driver on the grid, two times world champion, Fernando Alonso who so motivated to win more races, titles, and you have done, Safnauer, Alpine/ Renault is they just screw it up spectacularly.
Otmar finally manages to mess it up AGAIN....
Otmar isn't in charge of contracts, also Otmar as much as I despise him has only been there since Feb 2022. Well after any contracts have been signed. Otmar has contributed to the disaster of a situation with his press comments but as for everything else If anyone is to blame look at Laurent Rossi who has overseen the departures of Prost (in advisor role), Ricciardo & Alonso, That's a combined 6 WDC, approx 100 race wins alone. Then there's Marcin Budkowski and now Piastri wants nothing to do with Alpine.
@@Midori_Ringo Best for Alpine/Renault, Safnauer and Rossi must go because these guys have got too comfortable in their positions, taking money under false pretences, wasting valuable resources and still tarnish a team.
Alpine was played magistrally by Fernando and Mark... Mr. Safnauer and Mr. DeMeo were playing with Alonso and Piastri but they were outplayed. Piastri, maybe, was a bit unloyal. But, at the end that's politics
yeah now Alpine can say whatever they want about what they planned for the future, because who would contest gossips. Alpine bashes Alonso for being old, but is ok with Piastri getting older, until they will find maybe someone more interesting and keep Piastri on sidetrack forever... I absolutely support Piastri's switch
they yet again let another great driver slip...
Alpine expect loyalty from Piastri (despite not even extending his contract or exercising their option on him) despite not giving any in return? Nah miss me with that bs.
Yeah, but they also sponsored him through the Junior categories too, which is a pretty big ordeal.. obviously there’s going to be some hindrance in getting into F1 because how competitive it is in the driver market
Yea generally teams dont really give drivers much of a chance, but also seems like this couldve been handled differently.
From the outside looking in, I’d bet Alpine’s got some serious problems behind the scenes, and that’s why these drivers are jumping ship in secretive and dramatic fashion.
@@chromaticskent7395 well they missed their chance, they told him he'd have a drive in F1 by the 31st, they didn't have one lined up for him, so he went elsewhere.
My favorite quote is that loyalty that only goes one way is stupidity. Piastri did the right thing.
Hey Bryan Clark! Thanks for taking the time to drop by in the comments! Yeah great quote! Do you think they would take him back?
Can't blame the guy, Alonso was preferred.. both parties to blame. He was on the sidelines.... Let's just hope he can drive that McLaren.
Yeah hope he at least gets a seat
alonso was not prefered. otmar and the rest of alpine was loyal to piastri and was going to sign him in place of alonso
I’d rather see Alonso and Piastri at Alpine together. I don’t rate Ocan very highly.
that is the problem in my eyes, they didn't prefer either Alonso or Piastri, both who should have been driving alongside each other in 2022 and 2023, they preferred a driver that has not shown much in his F1 career and that has been very bad teamplayer this year over Alonso and Piastri, of course both of them are going to look elsewhere in my opinion
Mate it's either this party or that party to blame, not both. Ambiguity is in your thoughts so is in Alpine's. don't blame both. you are a person who cannot execute when two very good opportunities come in front of you. Loser.
Sorry, but loyalty only goes so far. They were still planning on having Alonso and Ocon next year. What was Piastri supposed to do? Spend another year as a reserve driver? He had to be spending the time trying to secure a drive for next year. If they are going through this season to this point still with 2 other drivers on their books ahead of Piastr for 2023, he's got to be looking elsewhere. If they wanted him to be loyal to them, they had to be loyal to him and determine that one of the other drivers wasn't going to be there next year because Piastr was taking their seat. They didn't do that, so he had to look elsewhere, and then they complain when he's not just waiting around for the spot once Alonso makes the surprise decision to leave.
Thanks for dropping by in the comments Chris! Yeah I guess Otmar just assumed they "owned" Piastri. They really did take him for granted! Who do you think will fill the seat at Alpine then?
That 14 phone calls bit is a way Otmar is saying look Alpine is the 4th fastest car on the grid and all the other drivers from the 6 remaining teams want to come there😂😂
Hey Kelvin Shamudzarira! Thanks for taking the time to drop by in the comments! You read through the lines! haha
Alonso wasn’t interested in cashing in his chips at the end of the season so the best Alpine could offer Piastri was a seat at the Williams table, this wasn’t good enough for such an ambitious young driver so he made his own arrangements. But when Alonso signed with Aston Martin the deck got shuffled too late for Alpine who had unwittingly already lost the hand they thought they had. That’s poker, it was a clean game and Alpine lost but it doesn’t necessarily mean that they won’t win Piastri back in another hand at some future time. Not sure why I went with the poker analogy, I don’t even play cards, but in a nutshell this is how I see it.
Yeah it seems Otmar was really just juggling both ends
After watching Russell get wasted at Williams for 3 season I don't blame the kid for trying to get a seat as soon as possible and with a midfield team instead of a loan to Williams
Williams is kinda sucky.
Eh who’s to say Williams won’t make a resurgence? If there’s one thing that’s always been true about F1, it’s that teams who fall almost always rise again. Some of the fastest and most successful teams of recent years have, at one point, been failed teams of the past. Time will tell
yeah very true Jeff.
@@iDropPhats I'm more likely to be signed to the Alpine seat than Williams returning to the top. They're relatively poorly funded compared to even mid field teams, is in negotiations to use a Renault engine from next season on - there's reasons no-one is using Renault engines other than Alpine. They will always have questionable driver talent because they always have a pay driver. The only way they're going back to contending is a takeover from Audi/Porsche/Honda etc.
@@iDropPhats I would agree with that except that Williams has been in decline consistently for longer than what should be acceptable. A down year or two while working to make the car better is understandable but Williams has been in decline since their glory days in the '90's
Otmar FIRED Checo. He doesn't understand what the word "loyalty" means...
No doubt!!!
have the FIA not ruled on this already stating that Piastri has no obligation to Apline and that the FIA are the highest authority in F1? They released a statement on this a couple of days ago...
Thanks for dropping by in the comments Shane Mouton! Yeah well but loyalty is a subjective matter no?
Seb: Alright, let's do this.
Nando: Prepare for trouble...
Oscar: ...and make it double
Literally what's going on right now haha
I think Alpine was gonna do what was best for them. And screw anyone else. Then when it blew up in their face they automatically tried to reverse what they probably already had told Piastri and expected him to just follow along like a loyal dog as long as it benefited Alpine. But when they thought they had another option he was on back burner. Now they need him. SMH talk about contradiction about loyalty. Give none but expect it in return. Hope this makes sense.
yeah so true! thanks for taking the time to drop a comment Kenneth! they really have just taken both Alonso and Piastri for granted.
Salty much lol they only had him as an option after Alonso bounced or he would had still be ok the sidelines. At the end of the day they never made the deadline to sign him and he went else where they need to learn a lesson about fobbing off young new drivers who clearly have the talent.
very true! they felt like they had it all handled.
Snag admits he was telling Alonso he has a seat for 3 or more years if he keeps performing and he gets to put Piastri in a crap team if he wants. And then wonders why Piastri is looking elsewhere for a decent car?
yeah lol! Otmar just loves to play people and he got played!
Can we hear from Webber?
Yeah definitely interested to hear what he has to say about this fiasco.
It's a different world, Otmar. The stakes are higher, so the politics are more ruthless.
it sure is!!!
There is no loyalty in business. In either direction. If they missed a deadline, then that’s that. He had an offer in writing from mclaren and nothing from alpine. He would be a fool not to take the offer that’s on the table.
Hey Adds Four! Thanks for taking the time to drop by in the comments! Yeah totally!
As if Alpine got nothing from running those tests with Piastri? Please. His tests were there to gather data for car development, and keep their reserve driver ready incase he needed to cover for Ocon or Alonso. This wasn't charity, and Alpine got their money's worth.
Thanks for commenting Scott! Yeah it’s just really unfortunate to see how things go. Do you think would still take him back if he apologises?
@@gpcentral you bet faster than Max in a DRS zone...tm
He should at least inform the team who sponsored, helped him to achieve what he is now before signing with another team
Thanks for dropping by in the comments E C! Yeah they should have talked this out first!
Reeva Steencamp's family must be fuming, how can anyone give that monster a drive..?
😳😳😳
Loyalty counts for a lot in this world.
It sure does David! Thanks for commenting!
Alpine didn't know the contract situation, Fernando's secret move is what made this possible but Alpine got caught flat footed. The piranha club is what they call F1. Chomp!
Some say Otmar deserved it for kicking Checo too!
Thanks a lot for fixing your pronounciation of "Alpine" :) Good work, as always ! Keep it up :)
Thank you so much! Really appreciate it!
The thing is. The contract for piastri with Mclaren could be one year deal depending on results. He could be out of Mclaren by the end of 2023, and then what? In the other hand alpine has a higher ceiling to grow, while Mclaren seems to be going backwards.
Thanks for dropping by in the comments olin aguas alvarado! Dont think Alpine can go far with Ocon there tho.
@@gpcentral right. But the team says they have 14 options to race alongside ocon.
Loyalty??? Look at what teams have been doing to their loyal drivers in past years. Force India to Perez. RedBull to many of the young drivers they invested on.
If Alpine cant even keep an eye on the contract expiration date, they deserve losing their drivers.
They have no plan for Oscar if Alonso didn't opt out.
If i was Oscar i would look elsewhere too
Mickie Larenski will fire Piastri if he performs poorly
😂
Alpine GOT CAUGHT WITH THEIR PANTS DOWN
Hey Steve Lueb! Thanks for taking the time to drop by in the comments! They sure did! Do you think they deserved it?
In my opinion, I think it speaks to the organization. There is some dysfunction or unhappiness in that organization. Both Alonso and Piastri leaving seems a bit strange...
Thanks for dropping by in the comments Les! Do you think it could be linked to the other driver, Ocon?
It’s just due to the way they strung them along and forced them to compete over one seat. A guy like Alonso doesn’t want a one plus one deal. He’s one of the best drivers on the grid and they’re treating him like he’s Latifi.
“If you keep performing…”
He’s Fernando Alonso, not some rookie. There was no way he was going to keep chasing a carrot on a stick at 41.
@@gpcentral I'm not so sure I would blame Ocon. He is just trying to prove he deserves to be in F1. I think it is more about how management is playing drivers. They wouldn't commit to Alonso for a multi year deal, Alonso wants some guarantees. They assumed he would want to stay. They told Piastri he would be racing in 2023, but for a different team. Then when Alonso left, they assumed that Piastri would continue to settle for the leftovers. He pushed back. Alpine just outmaneuvered themselves. Now they will pay the price.
This clown Otmar thought they own Piastri and gave him for granted. That is absolutely disrespectful. How come he could make a statement without the consent of Piastri?
yeah can't imagine it as well! both parties are to blame and Otmar assumes too much stuff lol
Sounds like he is a clever chap !
Well done
You mean Piastri?
In Formula One you have to go for the gap if you don't go for the gap you are not longer racing "
Piastri went for the gap.
We ll see if he make the pass.
Kudos to him
Thanks for dropping by in the comments Diego Martin Martin Diego! Wise words from Senna indeed!
@@gpcentral thanks a lot !
Sorry about the spelling , can't hardly read or see i forgot my glasses .I m kinda guessing when typing.
Imagine give Ocon a 3years contract but loose Piastri
It is sure insane!
At the end of the day.. "feelings at the time", is huge, especially, in the younger generations. I do understand Alpines side, I do understand Fernandos masterstroke in regards to an FU that is most likely unsurmountable in F1 current or past. All another piece of the puzzle in the F1 2022 Silly season 😆
Thanks for dropping by in the comments Travis! It sure is an interesting summer break! Where would you like to see Piastri go?
@@gpcentral I think Piastri should have Accepted his place at Alpine and busted his ass, showing everyone that the seat that had been warmed was not for nille.. now, that still may be the case but.. still, loyally is important and, it really is sad to say that it has become a dieing breed. I do not agree with what happened with Alonso, he deserves more, tbh, I believe it should be Alonso and Piastri, no offense Esteban🙌🤘🤟
The french couldn't run a cake shop. They have missed Piastri's July deadline, so he left
Yup it's sad they missed the deadline.
Well, let's just put things into context here, if Alonso wasn't going to Aston Martin, Piastri wouldn't have been offered a drive at Alpine. So, in that sense, I don't fault him for looking for a drive elsewhere especially after Alpine missed the deadline of his contract. As for Otmar, he probably thought Piastri should have understood he was an "Alpine-groomed" driver who was always going to have a bright future with the team. But, it doesn't matter now, the unexpected chain of events have turned out as such, the only point I would raise is Piastri better hope and pray McLaren will have a vastly improved car for the 2023 season. The thing about the McLaren name is it hasn't been and isn't the McLaren of old anymore. The heydays have long been over ever since Hamilton left and they have had many years to try to climb back up to the top and they still haven't been able to do it. As for this year's car, you have already seen how many times Norris have been complaining about it. So, while Piastri might have been attracted by the supposedly and now misplaced "more sexy" name of McLaren, but if he is not careful it could easily turn out to be the wrong move for him, but we shall see.
Thanks for taking the time to comment Alex! Great point you have there! I guess at that point of time, is was his only option. But I guess that means McLaren has already planned to sack Danny a long time ago? Hmmmm
Hmmm...The opportunity to miss out on a factory drive may follow him for the rest of his career.
Yeah absolutely
Did I miss something?
Why is it surmised (5:55 - 6:05) that Alpine would blame Piastri for Alonso’s departure? My only guess is maybe Alonso felt he could leave them in good hands… maybe? But for this video, that seemed to be left out there hanging
Thanks for stopping by in the comments Bob! We meant that this entire "drama" of them losing 2 decent drivers, it seems like Alpine is just blasting Pistri for not being loyal rather than blasting Alonso.
@@gpcentral Ah, okay. Thanks for clearing that up - or maybe I just provided another possibility? 🤷🏻♂️
And wow, thx for the instantaneous response, and cheers!
Cheers Bob! Thank you as well! Hope you loved the video!
Loyalty is not given, it is earned.Maybe the french team lead should have a good look at itself
Don't you think they deserved it after investing so much in him?
@@gpcentral yeah...
What’s with these Italian-last-named Aussie F1 drivers? Expecting Mario Spaghetti from Brisbane next year
Giancarlo Battato from Dorrigo
@@michelhouelpdesque mama mia
What's with the racist remark
@@joealagona760 ravioli makes me angry
all of this is unsurprising tbh. McLaren are probably promising the world to Piastri and Piastri feels like the security at Alpine was lacking... so why not? Maybe he could have been more cordial about it but he doesn't owe them anything per se. A bridge burnt is not anything unusual but it is for someone who has never driven a race in F1.
Hey adam! Thanks for taking the time to drop by in the comments! Yeah true but he's still not a proven driver in F1 just yet. F3/F2 is different.
@@gpcentral so we are in agreement then. Because he never drove in an F1 race, it may have not been a smart move.
Wasn't July 31st confirmed by both sides to be wrong?
Thanks for dropping by in the comments Adam N! Hmm is that so? Hmm...
at least we have a new Mazepin for fans to hate.
LOL!
Otmar got it wrong both times. Very ambiguous with his management styles led to two good drivers jumping ship.
Thanks for dropping by in the comments asg glass! Yeah he sure did make that mistake yet again!
No matter what Alpine did, Piastri should not have posted his tweet. This is not about Sport anymore. It's about behaviour
Behaviour? both party’s were not really professional so the behaviour of Alpine is as ‘bad’ as Piastri’s behaviour.
What about Alpines behaviour? It's been reported the FIA CRB has recognised Mclarens contract with Piastri and Alpine didn't have a contract for 2023 with Alpine. So Piastri is getting labelled unprofessional for denying untruths but Alpine isn't for posting untruths? Alpines behaviour is rubbish. Notice how Piastri, Webber and Mclaren aren't saying anything and letting it play out is the courts? But Alpine and Otmar are the ones going for the character assasination route?
@@timmethy9296 Totally agree that Alpine also is at some point accountable for all this. But from the unfolding of the situation it seems to me like Piastri didn't even try to get internally in touch with Alpine after they made the announcement.
Yeah both could really back acted better and talked things out.
Yeah Piastri should really have just sorted things out internally first.
i think piastri would just doing fine on alpine, but maybe his mclaren decision may have been influenced by webber to get a better seat on f1.. i mean its understandable but the risk is high.
It’s influenced by the fact alpine intended to sign Alonso for another year
Very true!
Sounds like Dreyfus calling Clouseau, "Idiot".
it sure does
I get it, F1 is a business and it’s cutthroat sometimes, but that was a scummy move. Piastri seems to have burnt the bridge with Alpine at this point (at least publicly), which is nothing to tout when the team he refused is sitting ahead of the one he wants to be on and is improving much more. I hope it goes well for him in F1 if he gets a seat, but that’s a major red flag to sponsors and other teams if they know a driver will jump ship and throw any loyalty to the wind. I can respect his decision, but it’s definitely not a good look, especially for a rookie
Edit: One more thing to consider is how lightly Alpine took the “betrayal” or whatever you want to call it. Piastri should be thankful it wasn’t Ferrari or the Red Bull family because they would have cast him out the second they got the news. Alpine definitely fumbled the bag here (should have signed him earlier), but there were questionable decisions made all around the board
Thanks for the great insights Alex! Yeah F1 space is small, he really made the wrong move to burn the bridges. Do you think Alpine would still take him back if he apologies?
@@gpcentral He definitely made the wrong move to burn a bridge because remember it’s not just with a team, but with a manufacturer. And we’ve seen it before in motorsport, once a driver is deemed as not very loyal or lacking integrity, they’re usually passed on or outed from the sport entirely. I doubt Renault would ever take him back, but other manufacturers might have a look at him in the coming years. However, the true test is will he perform in the McLaren or will he flop? With all this drama, he now has everything to prove and everything to lose…
@@gpcentral And Piastri doesn’t even lack integrity for doing what he’s doing, he’s just looking out for the option that he really wants and playing what he sees as his best hand. However the referee rarely ever sees the hit, only the reaction so it’s the perception that it gives people of him that makes it so controversial
Why is it a red flag? Piastri not having a 2022 drive was almost criminal. Alpine still planned to have both Alonso and Ocon in 2023, so what, he's supposed to sit back as a reserve driver for them for another year? Of course not. He had to be out hunting for a seat for 2023. So the idea that he should be available just waiting for them to hand him a drive when Alonso left is a bit crazy. I assume with the response he gave that he must already have had actual contracts signed, not just some interest. But Alpine hardly treated him really well.
You know what, Piastri better driving his heart out in McLaren. He's not coming back to Alpine for sure. And also Williams rumored to use Renault engine in the future. Alpine can block Piastri to Williams if they want. Its thier choice
Thanks for dropping by in the comments adib z! Yeah true that they could block Piastri! He really made a bad move to burn bridges.
End of the day it's just business and Oscar is looking out for his own best interest in hi is career. Secondly otmar also has a point they did invest alot in the lads development in f1
True, but if my understanding is correct then normally those investments do end up coming back to the team in some fashion, either by the driver paying some of it back when/ if they make it to F1, or the driver signing with the team and earning the team money back that way. Imo Alpine had their chance to sign Oscar but dropped the ball in favor of Ocon, which sure got them a single win, but it ended up driving Alonso away, which I can't blame him for considering he had literally won championships with the team so he reasonably expected to be treated like the number 1 driver, but it seems that Alpine favored Ocon more.
Yeah everyone is just looking out for their own butt. Sad to see this happen tho.
Overall if Ocon was not in that seat, it could be a different story.
@@nordvestgaming1238 OK yeah that's a valid point as well he should rightfully payback something as he makes money
@@gpcentral unfortunately this has become the way of the world in modern times those old days where we had each tlhers back are fast disappearing
Why is everybody bashing Piastri for being unloyal when Alpine literally learned Alonso won't renew his contract from the media? Seems so funny to me Piastri is taking all the heat, yeah Fernando is a top 5 driver, but he still did Alpine dirty.
Yeah well it's really a sad case! As the same time maybe Ocon should be the one to blame in the first place as it seems nobody wants to be his teammate
@@gpcentral Wow, another angle no one thought of, this just gets better all the time ....tm
Have these drivers got enough money they take the piss kev
lol
Piasti has put a lot of pressure on his own shoulders by this situation.
To me it looks like he feels as if he is a big number in F1 already.
If he doesn‘t perform quickly at his new team (McLaren^^), many will start questioning him very quickly.
yup very true there! he really has to deliver!
Loyalty ???? F1 it’s dog it’s dog … small memories what about when he kicked out checo just when he won the race .. to bring battel !!! So what loyalty is he talking about and checo found out on social media nice one !!
Thanks for dropping by in the comments Julio! Absolutely! It sure is dog eat dog unfortunately.
How can Alpine expect loyalty when they only offer a 1+1 contract. Clowns. Loyalty is a two way street.
Alpine need to ask themselves why Danny Ric and Alonso didn’t stay either!
Thanks for dropping by in the comments Cam F! Yeah very true! Otmar is messing up yet again
...do Ferrari need to drop Sainz in order to better focus on one driver like over at Red Bull...?
Hmmm good point! Who would take #2 spot then?
Alpine so salty about piastri tweet.
They sure are Irfan!
F1 team can be brutal to drivers and have absolutely no loyalty if it makes sense for them. Sounds like when they don’t it when those tables are turned. Sour grapes from Otmar.
Yeah absolutely! Do you think if Piastri apologises they would take him back?
Piastri's ruthless lack of loyalty makes him ideal driver material. However Laurent Rossi maybe to blame, there is more to come.
Very true Brian
This Piastri situation really bought out the worst in F1 fans it seems. The utter ignorance on display in here is tremendous.
Yeah can’t imagine it as well! Thank you for commenting btw
"utter ignorance" it's a sport fans get caught up in all the noise. Different opinion's that's all.
why are you talking like the anchorman when quoting Otmar haha
Thanks for dropping by in the comments Leon3D! Haha just an expression! You don't really like it?
@@gpcentral it's funny, I like it.
Vettel's retirement video looks like a mug shot.
LOLLLL
He better be the next Ayrton Senna or his career may go up in flames.
Absolutely! He still has to prove himself in that F1 seat!
Well Otmar. You do the same for Checo. So this is karma for you
Hey Fff.! Thanks for taking the time to drop by in the comments! Yeah what comes around, goes around!
What loyalty? He wanted a drive and they needed a driver. Thats it. Otmar is dumb to use the word loyalty. And it's their fault to announce him as their driver next year as if taking him for granted.
Thanks for stopping by in the comments Prad! Yeah guess he was just looking out for his own seat in 2023, but he could have dealt with the situation abit better don't you think? Like talking things out.
@@gpcentral I agree somewhat but Alpine also made a public statement without offering Piastri any contract. So I don't see an issue with what he did but how he handled could've been better.
Piastri should stick with Alpine. Is he signed to Mcl? So Piastri and Norris you think it would be good but Alpine after cash settlement, plenty of drama yet!
Thanks for dropping by in the comments Stuart Anderson! Yeah still waiting for confirmation on McLaren!
Can’t wait to see Alpine teach Piastri a lesson!
Can't wait!
The only reason why Mclaren is not fourth on the constructors championship is because of Dani Ric.
@@joelpanameno5046 agreed
@@joelpanameno5046 you can also say that there are two reasons the teams are still in the same battle : Alonso’s bad luck with the car and Norris putting more results that the car should really warrant
I would ask McLaren to compensate for the lost of alpine . No one is at fault .. everyone thinks of their best move .
Thanks for dropping by in the comments SV! Oofff! McLaren has to payoff Danny and also pay Alpine?
@@gpcentral Daniel ric's future in f1 could be questionable after 2022..I'm not sure which other team he could excel in and possibly running out of options . Hopefully the payoff can be his retirement fund , if he fails to secure any position.
absolutely not!!! he may have all the talent in the world he is where he is thanks to alpine who have sponsored him since he was a child without them he wouldn't be a driver besides how a young person who has never done a single race in f1 can afford to say no to his team which is also part of the very good steering wheel!?🤦🏻 ♂️ for me these are just a big head and I hope no one will offer him a seat for the next season!!! don't forget that william might be with a Renault engine next season so if that's the case it's sure he won't go with them and McLaren is taken with Riccardo unless he leaves lol
Hey Chris Picard! Thanks for taking the time to drop by in the comments! Yeah still alot of uncertainty there! Sad to see he forgot his roots!
Honestly i think its acceptable, Alpine were planning on keeping him out of the sport for atleast 1 more year, so it made sense for him to find another team. And i dont think Alonso is innocent here either, if it werent for him hiding it maybe none of this would have happened, but Alpine also didnt handle this well, i mean maybe Piastri isnt entierly innocent, but what do you expect? Of course it will happen if they refuse to give him a seat, Alpine shot themselfs in the foot here imo
Hey Teo S! Thanks for taking the time to drop by in the comments! Yeah both are to be blamed. They should have sorted it all out sooner.
Piastri not OK ! badboy please never gome back.
He definitely must be thought a lesson!
Piastri should not be giving a seat in 2023
Why?
@@RockSolitude seems he still has much to prove
what loyalty!? Otmar is a clown 🤡
This is a business first sport second.
Piastri also brought in sponsorship money. Both benefited.
Alpine looks set to become a back marker. Like Force India Racing Point was.
Racing Point only started punching above its weight when Stroll got in money.
Hey Sonu660! Thanks for taking the time to drop by in the comments! Well it's sad to see how things transpired.
Mark Webber is to blame
do you think it was Webbers plan all along?
For a young guy who's never turned a wheel in Formula One, I'd say he's thinking a lot more of himself than he should be. This could be a reputation killer no matter how it eventually turns out.
when you win f3 f2 and more, and your team keeps signing other drivers and doesnt renew your contract before it runs out, maybe you would also decide to change teams, especially when you dont have any title hopes in the foreseeable future with your former team and you would be locked in a longer contract with them
when you are a generational talent that could very well challenge for podiums and wins and soon be on the hunt for a F1 championship, given the right car.
why should someone who has shown talent on par with Norris/Verstappen/Leclerc/Russell wait until they are older when they can get in now? look at Nyck De Vries, he is still waiting cause of Mercedes being inept at getting him a seat
@@FaceFish9 Norris, Verstappen, LeClerc and Russell all have one thing in common - they've all successfully had a season in F1 and proven themselves beyond F2. Regardless of his lower Formula success, Piastri hasn't shown he's actually got what it takes to be in F1, let alone with an attitude like he has. He could turn out to be another Schumacher - great name, decent record, but still only mediocre in the big time. He's another one who's attitude is doing him no favours. He could turn out to be the next wdc with a rocket, but a little bit of humility won't hurt him.
yeah very true @weldorman he still has yet to prove himself as a solid F1 Driver and he's already pulling bold moves.
@@weldorman8495 thing is, if he doesnt get out of that Alpine deal and doesnt get a seat because Alpine couldn't produce him one (since Alonso and Ocon would have a deal going and are doing well) he would be out of seat for multiple years like Nyck and then what? when he finally gets his chance he is out of touch completely with how to race by then.
am i nuts for thinking that given what we know, Piastri might not have known beforehand that he was going to have a seat at Alpine next year and signed to another team himself (since Alpine were not able to sign him on loan to any team as we've seen)
and when he declined Alpine he did that cause he had already signed a contract? is that too far fetched?
face it, Alpine did screw up by giving Ocon the extension and not giving either Alonso a proper extension or Piastri a seat.
What this tells me is that Alpine is obviously a sinking ship , as Alonso and other staff are leaving ..
Thanks for dropping by in the comments Lance McNaughton! Do you think it's a problem with Otmar or Ocon? haha
@@gpcentral well the former would be my guess , as Otmar was discarded by Strolls team in the past .. maybe some history there ?
Piastri showed he is immature, impatient and disloyal even before his first race in F1. Everyone talking as if Alphine treated him bad and he left is just pointless. Alphine's mgmt is at fault for not announcing after having a proper communication & deal with Piastri. Piastri on the other hand is too impatient to give the team a chance who invested their money and RESOURCES for SEVERAL YEARS on him. This shows how (dis)loyal he is going to be with any team going forward. Literally every other driver who achieved in F1 had at least a bit of loyalty to the team they drove for.
Hmm I’m confused…. So he’s loyal for leaving Alpine?
@@gpcentral sry I meant disloyal. Edited the comment.
Can't listen to this voice. I just can't. One and a half minutes was more than enough.
Thanks for dropping by in the comments Steve Gardiner! Sorry to hear that!
Can you content creators stop reading out the Piastri tweet? Everyone knows what he said pls stop it
Hey Mc Corkie! Thanks for taking the time to drop by in the comments! Apologies about that!
Alonso and Piastri conspired due to both being treated very poorly. When a team takes a gamble on signing once an option has expired, it is tough luck. Alpine stuffed up. Arrogance got in the way of smart decision making. Alonso should have been moved on. Simple.
ooofff! Alonso and Piastri conspired this could be an epic move together! LOL!
Old news
Thanks for the feedback Francisco!
Nice attempt at Aussie accent 🙄
Thanks for the comment Tony! It was actually British 😅
cant you speak any quicker ?
Hey Kjell Arvidsson! Thanks for taking the time to drop by in the comments! Was it too slow? Fast?
@@gpcentral i am not that fluent in english. I have some difficltis in understanding what you say
Too clickbaity. Blocking this channel.
Sorry you felt that way
Okay just stop! or at least go to the source. F1 videos on CZcams are the worst. Same stuff different voice.
He had a contract, it had a clause. In the mean time he acted in HIS best interest. guarantees here, ask Ricciardo. Clock tics on everyone and there is a new talent or flavor every year.
Vettel says you'd have to go find a real story.
I'll help.
There are only 20 seats to be had........
Music stops you better have your ass in one.....
Thanks for the comment Jay! yeah everyone in F1 is just trying to lookout for themselves!
Piastri is acting like he's some F1 Champ when he has won zero F1 GPs so far
Yeah can’t imagine
How?
The kid won three straight formula titles in a row, 2 of them in his rookie year, and Alpines response was to sit him on the sidelines for a year? Forget that mate. He should have been in F1 at the start of the year.
@@mintoxace5571 You mean the team should just fire Ocon or?
@@gpcentral or made the deal earlier to supply Williams with Renault engines to get him a drive there. Either way you don’t leave that kind of talent on the sidelines when Zhou already has a drive.