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  • čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
  • A $4 million home in Vancouver is at the centre of a bitter legal battle, highlighting the risks of unconventional agreements.
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Komentáře • 151

  • @RonArgentina
    @RonArgentina Před 2 měsíci +68

    One of the winners here is the lawyers

  • @MM-my3pc
    @MM-my3pc Před 2 měsíci +71

    What a bunch of greed sellers … they got good money leave …. I dont agree with the previous comment about the « poor rich people » … whatever they paid it was hard earned cash. The sellers and their real estate agent are gross dishonest and are hiding behind loopholes in the law - totally gross greedy people and their real estate agent - Karma will come to them

    • @wildandliving1925
      @wildandliving1925 Před 2 měsíci +8

      If you listen apparently there is a 100k deposit that hasn't been paid back so... it's complicated

    • @MM-my3pc
      @MM-my3pc Před 2 měsíci +4

      I understand it was to be given when they leave maybe the buyers saw red flags. I’ve purchased properties and sold and always vacated at the close date.

    • @bcatbb2896
      @bcatbb2896 Před měsícem +2

      @@MM-my3pc issue is the buyer ghosted the seller when they asked for the money. broke the trust and now neither party trusts each other to hold their end of the deal. such a mess with a messy agreement.

  • @user-yz9dz4iw4s
    @user-yz9dz4iw4s Před měsícem +11

    Very dishonest sellers. Shame shame shame. How can they say that they did move out because “they were not given proper legal notice”. They are crooks.
    This is a new low for Canadian ethics

    • @glenw-xm5zf
      @glenw-xm5zf Před měsícem

      I can only guess where the sellers were born. Not here

  • @tanweerahmed6861
    @tanweerahmed6861 Před 2 měsíci +38

    Both lawyers agree that you must have a lawyer, every one is concerned about their own money only

    • @cao6496
      @cao6496 Před měsícem

      do not feel comfortable when some people suffer and he just laughs.

  • @WMcSnickets-xw5om
    @WMcSnickets-xw5om Před 2 měsíci +20

    Allow drug dealers to launder 100's of billions and this is what you get, a $4,000,000 house in a middle class area. A house that would cost maybe $400,000 anywhere else in North America.

  • @derek04151
    @derek04151 Před 2 měsíci +40

    Negotiate a price based on September possession and done.
    No rental. That was a dumb agreement.

    • @philisdaman99
      @philisdaman99 Před 2 měsíci +4

      Date of possession is not the same thing as the sale completion date and the buyer could lose their deposit and potentially be liable for the difference in sale price should they be unable to complete the purchase if they could not re-qualify for financing. These "existing owner becomes a fixed-term tenant" deals are somewhat common because of this fact for sales that can't complete within 90 or 120 days. The sellers have likely become "professional tenants" here.

    • @berniecelee5062
      @berniecelee5062 Před 2 měsíci +6

      What a nightmare ! Keep things simple …close date at 60 to 90 days. No rent back to owner….that just complicates everything. Even if you had lawyers involved. Keep the transaction CLEAN. Too many dishonourable people out there…

  • @andg5194
    @andg5194 Před 2 měsíci +34

    What is with $100K deposit that new owner is not willing to give back?
    too much missing context...

    • @leonardmccannon3136
      @leonardmccannon3136 Před 2 měsíci +20

      The point was that the money was meant to be held until the sellers left the property. That’s their leverage to ensure they leave. Instead the sellers paid no rent as was agreed upon for the temporary stay they requested, and thereafter unilaterally insisted the buyer deduct the rent agreed upon from the deposit - thus violating the terms of the deal.
      The new owners have zero guarantees that these people would leave if they pay the deposit since they don’t honour deals they sign. So, they refused to give the deposit until they leave - as was agreed to in writing.

    • @747Cone
      @747Cone Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@leonardmccannon3136 So why was it set aside on appeal. What was the judges view? That they should pay the $100K and then they'd have the right to evict them at that point?

    • @philisdaman99
      @philisdaman99 Před 2 měsíci +4

      @@747Cone because the current argument is that the sellers are now defined as "tenants" and are protected by the rights they have at the RTB not to be evicted without a review. Essentially this went from a contract-law case to an RTB case (different jurisdiction) and since BC is one of the most heavily tenant-sided jurisdictions in North America, the buyers will unfortunately need to wait a long time to go through that process and essentially start over. The sellers clearly know the laws and are trying to take advantage of them over doing the "right" thing by the terms of the sale contract.

    • @747Cone
      @747Cone Před 2 měsíci

      @@philisdaman99 Ok but I'm trying to understand what the terms of the 100K holdback is? The tenants/sellers are saying they'll move out once the 100K is released. Was it a term of the contract for the 100K to be released?

    • @philisdaman99
      @philisdaman99 Před 2 měsíci +1

      ​@@747Cone Can't be 100% sure but in a real estate transaction this type of holdback is usually for something like unforeseen damages that were not apparent upon showing that might be discovered during the buyers' final walkthrough upon taking possession or damage to the property that might occur between the sale and the closing. Obviously, taking possession never happened here so if these were the terms that's why the deposit would never have been released.

  • @bl1707
    @bl1707 Před měsícem +7

    Vendor's lawyer is playing legal games.

  • @kellyhou9594
    @kellyhou9594 Před 2 měsíci +10

    This arrangement is not uncommon. My friend did this. They were planning to build a new home, they were tied down on money so they sold their home and ask the buyer to honor them one year of lease. This is often written into the condition of the purchase order.

  • @ophelia_III
    @ophelia_III Před 2 měsíci +6

    You can tell which commentators aren’t from Vancouver, they can’t get over the price of the house.

  • @nicoles2289
    @nicoles2289 Před měsícem +2

    What’s the point of lawyers if even they can’t do anything to help?

  • @Macky1101
    @Macky1101 Před 2 měsíci +43

    It seems like everyone in BC are billionaires. Everyone just buys multi million dollar homes without a care in the world.

    • @stevietalk1
      @stevietalk1 Před 2 měsíci +2

      You are making a judgement that the new owners are billionaires ..

    • @mikedunsmuir9392
      @mikedunsmuir9392 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Lol absolutely not true

    • @mikemontagne2703
      @mikemontagne2703 Před 2 měsíci

      It's the $ame in Auckland, New Zealand, my Canadian married to an Australian (living there for some time), sister inlaw.
      Just bought a 1970's ish 4 bedrooms, ×2 1/2 bath for 1.8 $ Million N.Z. ...
      Prior to that, they paid over $4K
      per month, with like the U.K. rent due weekly....

    • @patrickt49
      @patrickt49 Před 2 měsíci +1

      No. But BC is known to be a hot bed for CCP officials. And those from HK have equity from their properties over there same with some people from Taiwan.

    • @JEdwarrd
      @JEdwarrd Před měsícem +1

      @@patrickt49 All levels of gov should have stepped into BC 20 years ago when it was clear that money laundering was a huge part of GDP. Every level of gov fail, both liberal and conservative parties watched this all unfold.
      This is not a new issue, but it's being sold as a new issue.

  • @jefftaylor844
    @jefftaylor844 Před 2 měsíci +2

    This report is incomplete as it doesn't contain information regarding the actual reason why the court went against the Tenancy Branch of BC decision that sided with the new owners.

    • @cao6496
      @cao6496 Před měsícem

      left side wins?

  • @A__SB
    @A__SB Před 2 měsíci +9

    4 million for that piece of mud and brick? Must be a joke!

    • @speedyfeint
      @speedyfeint Před 2 měsíci +3

      that's how we roll in vancouver.

    • @A__SB
      @A__SB Před 2 měsíci

      @speedyfeint Yeah, you certainly are, rolling in the deep. Deep debt hole, that is.

    • @speedyfeint
      @speedyfeint Před 2 měsíci

      @@A__SB yeah but the reality is; more than 50% of detached houses in vancouver are mortgage free.. i guess we have incredible amount of multi-millionares in this city.. which means all younger generations that don't have rich parents are pretty much f'ed.

    • @drumswest5035
      @drumswest5035 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Dont worry because Justin and Eby say they will sort it out

    • @danidiaz2377
      @danidiaz2377 Před 2 měsíci +2

      Chinese tucked up the market so it’s a horrible place to live now

  • @kyungshim6483
    @kyungshim6483 Před 2 měsíci +6

    The world is full of interesting cases.

  • @HelnoIaint
    @HelnoIaint Před 2 měsíci +5

    $4 million for that dump lol

    • @nwre
      @nwre Před 2 měsíci +1

      FR lol. The couple was from Penticton. They could've bought 3 new-builts of similar size for that kind of money

    • @trevoradams8675
      @trevoradams8675 Před 2 měsíci

      Vancouver blows lol

  • @oldschool1993
    @oldschool1993 Před měsícem +6

    Canada offered citizenship to Hong Kong Chinese before 1997 and they flooded the area and drove prices out of sight until Canadians could no longer afford to live there.

  • @lcg5790
    @lcg5790 Před 2 měsíci +6

    On what basis did the judge reverse the Board's decision?

  • @Butterfly-rd4je
    @Butterfly-rd4je Před měsícem +2

    Give them their money if u want the house😮

  • @phoreal22
    @phoreal22 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Dont you need a lawyer to sell the house, what happened to those lawyers, did they just ignore the agreement of the sale?

    • @imarura
      @imarura Před 2 měsíci

      That part is on transfer of the titles
      The lawyer they are referring to is non straight forward case of the hold back for tenancy agreement that happened post sales

  • @tothelighthouse9843
    @tothelighthouse9843 Před 2 měsíci +5

    No good deed goes unpunished. Sad how the seller made an agreement they now don't believe they have to honour.
    Don't ever put yourself in a position of having to ask someone to return YOUR money to you.

  • @Mr.Wonderfull
    @Mr.Wonderfull Před 2 měsíci +2

    there will never be any agreement when there are two stubborn parties.

  • @lifesabeach8133
    @lifesabeach8133 Před měsícem

    $100,000 hold back, based on an average rent for $5000 p/mo of rent for a property such as this, which gives the sellers 20 months of pre-paid rent that the buyers are holding onto. Since the deal closed, as landlord and tenant, the landlord is entitled to hold onto 1 month rent as a damage deposit. The remainder of the hold back should have been reimbursed upon signing of the lease agreement. It's simple math and normal tenancy regulations. If you don't know how to be a landlord, you should not have entered into a landlord/tenancy relationship. As usual the realtors are not helpful in any of this or they would've advised their clients to refrain from signing such an agreement, that goes for both sides.

  • @robertl.6919
    @robertl.6919 Před 2 měsíci +5

    So never help or accomodate anyone in the future.

    • @cao6496
      @cao6496 Před měsícem

      new comers bring their culture to change Canada into "something good"?

    • @robertl.6919
      @robertl.6919 Před měsícem

      @@cao6496 Who built and made Canada good in the first place ?

    • @cao6496
      @cao6496 Před měsícem

      @@robertl.6919 no doubt those great leaders of Canada like John A. McDonald. Some new comers bring in bad culture and make Canada a mess now!?! I dare not say so directly. Not political correctness. You know?

  • @ShotBySolo
    @ShotBySolo Před 2 měsíci

    Ok, but why do you keep including the audio from the drone flying? Just mute it while you’ve got a voiceover going on.

  • @generousbitcoinbillionaire
    @generousbitcoinbillionaire Před měsícem

    They're not landlords. They are the buyers. Omg...what freaks

  • @reisschancellor9753
    @reisschancellor9753 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Buyer, cancel it. Not worth it. For this price, you can pay for a luxurious, full service retirement home for the rest of your life.

    • @glenw-xm5zf
      @glenw-xm5zf Před měsícem

      Go to North nanaimo, parksville, Courtenay. Comox.White Rock. Vancouver has turned into one huge overpriced slum.. and run by lefty parasites who love power

  • @travispolson6156
    @travispolson6156 Před 2 měsíci +11

    Oh, poor, rich people . On both sides . 😢 how will they survive .

  • @minimaxmiaandme.4971
    @minimaxmiaandme.4971 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Don't do anything out of the ordinary....in today's world, it always causes problems. There are indecent people who will look for loopholes and push all the envelopes......the sellers are to blame....leave the house you sold. Greedy, greedy, greedy.

  • @secondghost
    @secondghost Před 2 měsíci +1

    Why is this news?

  • @duelenigma7732
    @duelenigma7732 Před měsícem

    Squatters are in breach .

  • @dylanbishop1940
    @dylanbishop1940 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Awful

  • @lorpis8284
    @lorpis8284 Před měsícem

    How is this even a thing? Looks like a game made by lawyers for lawyers. Morally, all that's needed is some hired muscle paid for by a portion of that 100K for reneging on the deal.

  • @DUDE72341
    @DUDE72341 Před 2 měsíci

    Got the cake, ate it..stepped up for more! 👀

  • @speedyfeint
    @speedyfeint Před 2 měsíci +3

    lawyers should be the first ones to be replaced by AI.

  • @heartborne123
    @heartborne123 Před 2 měsíci +3

    it's ridiculous $4m for such a house, it's not even on the beach

    • @stevietalk1
      @stevietalk1 Před 2 měsíci +3

      It’s in Vancouver, & on the West side .. remember - the city of Vancouver is relatively small ( not ‘greater Van, just city of Van.) so home prices are very high.

  • @mrdieselsir
    @mrdieselsir Před 2 měsíci +2

    Sellers on some scam tactics

    • @bcatbb2896
      @bcatbb2896 Před 2 měsíci

      No, you clearly didn’t listen to the full piece because both sides didn’t keep their promise

  • @LivPoxleitner
    @LivPoxleitner Před 2 měsíci

    whats this hold back?

  • @That-Guy-79
    @That-Guy-79 Před měsícem

    Put the 100 grand in escrow with a lawyer. Then have the renters leave. Ta da. Fixed.

  • @markstevens1729
    @markstevens1729 Před 2 měsíci

    Answer to all “cushy” side deals is “Thanks, but no.”

  • @alexg9727
    @alexg9727 Před 2 měsíci +5

    *tiny violin playing*

  • @Richardparent879
    @Richardparent879 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Stupid rich people problems who cares!!

  • @svc2461
    @svc2461 Před měsícem

    Remove one zero from 4 mill. That's what it's worth.

  • @Blockchainer999
    @Blockchainer999 Před měsícem

    Do the legal notice and deduct rent from damage deposit. Case closed. Not a big deal unless one of them does not want this to go through and wants problems! Old babies, they have money but still did not learn anything from life. Rich fools.

  • @tabooz0331
    @tabooz0331 Před 2 měsíci

    Both of them are rich people. It is not for us to worry about.

  • @adamtajhassam9188
    @adamtajhassam9188 Před měsícem

    MORE LIKE A LEGAL JOKE. Does Ruins of Canada mean anything to you?

  • @casadelsolboutiquebedbreakfast

    Never ever trust no one...Stay in your Bubble !

  • @BrendanPNW
    @BrendanPNW Před měsícem

    They are squatters plain and simple. Video doesn't explain why the judge sided with the squatters so I can only assume the judge is incompetent at best.

  • @1meetup
    @1meetup Před 2 měsíci

    Things become more costly once trust is gone.

  • @cartoons981
    @cartoons981 Před měsícem

    money never ending desires to accumulate toys . abandoned castles , arent lessons enough

  • @RC-wt7fr
    @RC-wt7fr Před 2 měsíci

    The sellers should be deported and backcharged with interest.

  • @cao6496
    @cao6496 Před měsícem

    Sassy seller and greedy buyer? who knows? who will care?

  • @rayl7225
    @rayl7225 Před měsícem +1

    The buyer did a favour for the seller and got burned. Only in Canada.

  • @SolidDuke77
    @SolidDuke77 Před 2 měsíci +9

    Poor rich people, really breaks my heart to hear how they have to suffer.

    • @alexg9727
      @alexg9727 Před 2 měsíci +2

      *tiny violin plays*

  • @whatdoyouwantfromme1029
    @whatdoyouwantfromme1029 Před měsícem

    Money the Root of all the Evil in the world 🙏😑👎🏻

  • @elijahmendoza1917
    @elijahmendoza1917 Před měsícem +1

    Why sell and then rent? why not make a background check on the sellers. there must be a motivation why they are doing this. crying for 100k? when they sold the house for 3.9M? come on!

  • @newlife956
    @newlife956 Před 2 měsíci

    The so-called 'asset' or 'investment' class should not take up air-time with their squabbles over huge amounts of money...that the working class cannot even hope to attain......while pumping-up a bubble that disadvantages and hurts the working poor. NOT INTERESTED AT ALL.

  • @gjswilson
    @gjswilson Před 2 měsíci +1

    😂 CTV, always concerned about struggling millionaires

    • @sktoh4469
      @sktoh4469 Před 2 měsíci

      They are often promoting leftwing woke ideas but do they take breaks once in a while.

  • @MakeMineaDouble
    @MakeMineaDouble Před 2 měsíci

    4 million for that piece of sht? Bahhahaha

  • @ricoh634
    @ricoh634 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Shameless government doesnt nothing for us, so wack

  • @trevoradams8675
    @trevoradams8675 Před 2 měsíci

    Some advice don’t buy a house in that god forsaken city lol.

  • @alexg9727
    @alexg9727 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Masao Morinaga looks like a really good scammer

  • @richardrogers7479
    @richardrogers7479 Před 2 měsíci

    Who in their right mind would pay $4 mil for that place, what a joke!

    • @sktoh4469
      @sktoh4469 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Vancouver property prices are sky high.

  • @RaisedxFist
    @RaisedxFist Před 2 měsíci +2

    This will be the new normal (soon).

  • @charlenelohnes4698
    @charlenelohnes4698 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Who freakin cares sic of all this bull 💩

  • @tee5818
    @tee5818 Před 2 měsíci

    boycott the realtor and lawyer MASAO MORINAGA

  • @drumswest5035
    @drumswest5035 Před 2 měsíci +1

    They are squatters, never get into a situation like this. The owners should move in with the squatters and see how how long they stick around.

    • @bcatbb2896
      @bcatbb2896 Před 2 měsíci

      Bro that’s not what’s happening here
      It’s both sides not keeping their promise so both sides are wrong and right

  • @MrWallace484
    @MrWallace484 Před 2 měsíci

    Eat the rich

  • @pacman3556
    @pacman3556 Před 2 měsíci +2

    1:28-- your clients are squatting. They sold their house and had a clear agreement to leave the premises by end of Sept. They didn't leave or continue to pay rent beyond Sept therefore they are squatters. Instead of defending them you should be telling them to get the fu$ck out.

    • @bcatbb2896
      @bcatbb2896 Před 2 měsíci

      The buyer didn’t release 100k for them to leave as agreed upon in the initial agreement
      Both sides frankly didn’t do as they agreed hence the mess

    • @pacman3556
      @pacman3556 Před měsícem

      @@bcatbb2896 not releasing money does not give someone to live in a place without paying rent. That is what the court system is for. They stayed in the house without paying....they are squatting.

    • @bcatbb2896
      @bcatbb2896 Před měsícem

      @@pacman3556 thats up to the court to decide, not you or I. this thing is honestly just a mess to begin with, no trust at all. they never shouldve done such a agreement if they never believed the other side would honor their agreement. or atleast hash it out in plain letters on the contract

    • @pacman3556
      @pacman3556 Před měsícem

      @@bcatbb2896 yes the courts can decide however by definition if you live in a house without paying rent then they are squatters. Don't need a court to decide that. It is clearly defined.

    • @bcatbb2896
      @bcatbb2896 Před měsícem

      @@pacman3556 um, thats not how it works bro. i get where youre coming from, but the world doesnt work that way

  • @parkerbohnn
    @parkerbohnn Před 2 měsíci +3

    The buyer is probably an 18 year old foreign student from China.

    • @1topbaron559
      @1topbaron559 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Did you not listen. It's a retired couple that are the buyers.

    • @checory
      @checory Před 2 měsíci +1

      it's a retired couple from Penticton. but at least we found the racist

  • @Don-ex5ih
    @Don-ex5ih Před 2 měsíci +1

    We have more bigger news than this
    Unsubscribing this channel

  • @johngreene7276
    @johngreene7276 Před 2 měsíci

    100,000 is 100,000. Enjoy

  • @user-ug7hx6lr3b
    @user-ug7hx6lr3b Před 2 měsíci

    $50 the seller is Asian

    • @sktoh4469
      @sktoh4469 Před 2 měsíci

      Both the sellers and buyers are comrades from mainland China. 😱

  • @paulquon4495
    @paulquon4495 Před 2 měsíci

    It is not that smart to rent out a house that costs $3.9 million dollars 😮🫣.,