Using A Spot Meter For Film Photography - Image Breakdowns Vol.1

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    In this video, I give a quick overview of how I use my Sekonic L-558R and the spot meter function for my film photography.
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Komentáře • 334

  • @ThePhotoDept
    @ThePhotoDept Před 4 lety +201

    This is probably the most concise and practical explanation of spot metering and the zone system I’ve ever seen. Great video man.

    • @KyleMcDougall
      @KyleMcDougall  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks, man!

    • @Daniel-Duarte
      @Daniel-Duarte Před 4 lety +4

      Next step is to understand how the zone system interacts with developing film - n and n+1... all that jazz.

    • @mattl347
      @mattl347 Před 4 lety +3

      Well said 👍

    • @sednasix6608
      @sednasix6608 Před 3 lety +2

      It won a sub from me

    • @CS-uc2oh
      @CS-uc2oh Před 7 měsíci

      You haven't watched enough videos... This one was terrible like so many others.

  • @millerviz
    @millerviz Před 2 lety +19

    I"m a little bit distrustful of trying to pick a middle gray from a contrasty scene. Not everyone has a good feeling for what a middle gray is. I like to use the memory function of a meter to sample a highlight and a shadow where I want to retain detail. Then I can see the range of tones in the image and choose an exposure that fits the full range. It might be helpful to explain that if you place a shadow on zone III that your camera exposure will be set at zone V, two stops brighter.

  • @CausaMortis86
    @CausaMortis86 Před 4 lety +51

    The timing of this video is so coincidental for me! I switched to film two months ago and have struggled with exposure. Everyone else's videos are just "I use the internal light meter and overexpose 1-3 stops." This just wasn't concrete enough for me. Then I found the zone system and my faith in film photography was restored. Having a solid set of rules that allow you to creatively control exposure is so much better than "overexpose 1-3 stops." I greatly appreciate your contributions to the film community. If you ever struggle for video ideas I would watch a million of you doing this exact same thing.

  • @hadji5051
    @hadji5051 Před 4 lety +3

    So happy that you are back doing videos. Great info as always.

  • @adamremnant9479
    @adamremnant9479 Před 4 lety +3

    So helpful. Just got into film this year and have watched your videos. They’ve provided great guidance. Thank you!

  • @ddaly20111993
    @ddaly20111993 Před 4 lety +10

    This is the best video I've seen on metering for a scene.

  • @runninblue9415
    @runninblue9415 Před 4 lety +3

    Just brilliant. I can't believe your timing. Am currently floundering with the spot meter in a new film slr. This makes so much sense thank you 😁

  • @jasonblake5576
    @jasonblake5576 Před 4 lety +7

    Probably the best spot metering explanation I’ve seen on YT.

  • @TGCid01
    @TGCid01 Před 4 lety +1

    Most informative photography video I've seen in a long time. Thank you for this.

  • @GOWIvideos
    @GOWIvideos Před 4 lety

    So much good info in here! Loving all your videos. Thanks Kyle

  • @nickward2922
    @nickward2922 Před 2 lety +2

    Very clear explanation and good practical examples. So many others breeze over this with blah blah blah portra 1/2 box speed and meter for the shadows with no regard for the scene, placement of the tones or actual metering technique.

  • @nw10photography
    @nw10photography Před 3 lety +2

    Clear and concise tutorial that I have referred to on a few occasions to refresh my knowledge of metering and zone system.

  • @Aldissimo90
    @Aldissimo90 Před 4 lety +1

    Thanks for coming back :)

  • @irvinwilson3245
    @irvinwilson3245 Před 4 lety +3

    Kyle, I noticed your Lightroom settings on the photo with the old broken down chair. That would be a great image to show how quality scans of modern negative films can be used almost like raw files, much like they do with scans of cinematic film. That exposure range you had in front of you there was so wide yet it's all captured in the image, ready to expand for viewing. Amazing.

  • @alexanderpalas3960
    @alexanderpalas3960 Před 2 lety +1

    No joke ive watched endless videos on this topic and this is the best one!

  • @Sodacake
    @Sodacake Před 4 lety +3

    Oh man, another new vid! You're really spoiling us.

  • @Naatti922
    @Naatti922 Před 3 lety

    Amazing video, informative AF. Thank you so much. I understand the zone system and looking for tones in a scene far better after seeing this.

  • @calebzahm1542
    @calebzahm1542 Před 4 lety +1

    So much good info on this one! Thank you

  • @heathermtaylor7683
    @heathermtaylor7683 Před rokem +1

    Brilliantly intelligent explanation of spot metering and the zone system. Thank you for helping us all out so clearly and concisely.

  • @romain.bordeaux
    @romain.bordeaux Před 3 lety

    Thanks a lot for your work! Love your content and overall approach.

  • @amygotto1783
    @amygotto1783 Před 3 lety +1

    Fantastic information - thank you!

  • @LasVegasandBeyond
    @LasVegasandBeyond Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for making this video, I switched to a Pentax Zone VI spot meter and really saw a difference with my images and negative densities

  • @PoeInTheDitch
    @PoeInTheDitch Před 4 lety +14

    Great to see that you’re back! Found you a few months ago. Your channel is definitely one of too favorites for photography. I appreciate the difficult work out in for the detail study and the production quality is pretty amazing right from the first vid. Kudos, man. Looking forward to more. And thanks for finally laying out spot light meter usage. No one really has on CZcams. Off to buy a copy of the zone system....

  • @mikelaing8056
    @mikelaing8056 Před 3 lety +1

    This is still my Favourite light meter video. Well done.
    Mike

  • @leahharaden391
    @leahharaden391 Před rokem +1

    Thank you so much! It was very helpful to see how you would meter low and high contrasts scenes. Also, I loved the tip on how to use the "average" feature on my Sekonic light meter. This will save me so much time and frustration trying to figure out the best exposure.

  • @ShawnBrezny
    @ShawnBrezny Před 4 lety +10

    This explanation was spot on, thanks!

  • @photog1529
    @photog1529 Před 4 lety +2

    Hey Kyle, welcome back. I use both a Sekonic 758 and an older Pentax digital spot meter (reads in Ev). Of the two, I find myself gravitating more towards the Pentax...I like the simplicity. Excellent information.

  • @ridovicsandras
    @ridovicsandras Před 3 měsíci +1

    super useful video, thanks!

  • @23codez
    @23codez Před 3 lety +1

    Great video. I appreciate your existence.

  • @monishankarbiswas7397
    @monishankarbiswas7397 Před 2 lety

    Really great informative video

  • @ThisHolographicLife
    @ThisHolographicLife Před 4 lety

    So glad to see you making videos again Kyle! A couple of months ago when I first started shooting film I would pour over your videos over and over again and still find myself revisiting them. Can't wait to see what's coming up

  • @j.q.b.9119
    @j.q.b.9119 Před 4 lety +27

    I can't believe that you came back for real. Much excited!

  • @maximvdn
    @maximvdn Před 4 lety

    Amazing video. It’s clear and straight to the point. Couldn’t understand better after watching

  • @retrospective77
    @retrospective77 Před 4 lety +1

    Great, thanks for this, super helpful.

  • @richardsimms251
    @richardsimms251 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Great video. I love my Sekonic meter. Fabulous consistent results.
    RS. Canada

  • @sergioporras5401
    @sergioporras5401 Před 4 lety +1

    One of the best explanations of the zone system and overview of how to use a spot meter correctly. Great stuff!

  • @michaelsim7687
    @michaelsim7687 Před 4 lety +1

    Glad you're back

  • @aidenmelo763
    @aidenmelo763 Před 2 lety +1

    thank you for this video and explanation helped a lot!!!

  • @edscannell1019
    @edscannell1019 Před 3 lety +1

    Brilliant video Kyle so informative

  • @alexblake8717
    @alexblake8717 Před 4 lety +1

    Great explantation, made a lot of sense

  • @blueocean9305
    @blueocean9305 Před 3 lety

    Kyle - well done. Thanks

  • @moqtev
    @moqtev Před 4 lety

    Thanks Kyle - great video ☺️

  • @RadiRenggli
    @RadiRenggli Před 4 lety +1

    Simply explained, easy to understand. I watched quite a few videos of yours. Thanks for doing this. Cheers

  • @baileystottrup8112
    @baileystottrup8112 Před 2 lety +1

    This was great, thank you 😊

  • @htt2707
    @htt2707 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for your very helpful video. And nice photography btw.

  • @TrueToTheCraft
    @TrueToTheCraft Před 3 měsíci +1

    Super helpful. Thank you

  • @home1231
    @home1231 Před 2 lety +1

    really appreciated . excellent video, full of information yet easy to understand. Thanks very much !!!

  • @raywatts5702
    @raywatts5702 Před 3 lety +1

    A lot of very interesting and useful info here. Thanks Kyle.

  • @rlysakowski
    @rlysakowski Před 4 lety

    thanks, a brilliant explanation!

  • @rvbsoundfactory
    @rvbsoundfactory Před 4 lety +1

    Good to see you back! You should give your metering technique ago with transparency film. Or if you want to get some numbers going around in your head Start using polarizing filters neutral density filters. Start to crank out those bellows on the RZll. It will be good exercise for it. Looking forward to your next video!

  • @franmndz7
    @franmndz7 Před 2 lety

    Great video! Thank you!

  • @adamdagosto570
    @adamdagosto570 Před 3 lety +1

    Really nice job explaining this spot on subject.

  • @josephmoss6033
    @josephmoss6033 Před 2 lety +1

    I’m two years late watching but worth the wait! Thank you for explaining this concept so succinctly. Bravo!

  • @christianblock3170
    @christianblock3170 Před 3 lety +1

    Only just found your channel but loving the content. Really appreciated how well you explain your process, extremely helpful! Thanks!

    • @KyleMcDougall
      @KyleMcDougall  Před 3 lety

      Thanks, Christian. Glad you're enjoying the content!

  • @fotosaurier35
    @fotosaurier35 Před 4 lety

    Great content ; thanks for sharing !

  • @DevonChristopherAdams
    @DevonChristopherAdams Před 4 lety

    Great video on spot metering. I never really understood it until right now. Cheers

  • @constantinestewart7416

    One of the best tutorials around. Thanks much for very clear lesson on using a spot meter.

  • @PeterRoskothen
    @PeterRoskothen Před rokem +1

    Same here: Best explanaition (for free) I have seen. Tx very much!!!

  • @edscannell1019
    @edscannell1019 Před 4 lety

    Brilliant video Kyle, so informative.

  • @melstruijk4433
    @melstruijk4433 Před rokem +1

    really helpfull man! Thanks!!!!

  • @eeeeeeeeeeeeeee29
    @eeeeeeeeeeeeeee29 Před 4 lety +3

    Two upload within the week praise the film gods

  • @StephenMilner
    @StephenMilner Před 4 lety

    Hey, what a great video. Keep up the amazing work! I look forward to your next video.

  • @ZachBie
    @ZachBie Před 4 lety +4

    It is interesting to see the book chart and to use this when looking at a hybrid system like scanning film. I shot 261 rolls of film this last fiscal year, and I developed them all myself. When shooting I use the Zone System; I then scan them with my Nikon D750 using a macro lens and import into Lightroom 6. There I flip the image into a positive and edit using a continuation of the Zone System and the Lightroom system that lists the values of your image on a scale from 0 to 100. I like to place my caucasian skin around 65-70 and my sky highlights around 90-95. For my shadows I tend to not go below 5 to 8.
    An enjoyable video that shows light meters still have a role in modern photography, film or digital.

  • @mproyuclan
    @mproyuclan Před 4 lety

    great explanation, so clear and easy to understand. Have just bought a Minolta spot meter and this will help me a lot. Thanks

  • @fabianholoubek1467
    @fabianholoubek1467 Před 4 lety

    Best metering video out there! That helps a lot! Thanks and all the best from Austria

  • @jacquesgude
    @jacquesgude Před 22 dny

    Incredibly helpful, Kyle! I'd watched this (and others of your medium format film specific) videos for a couple years now and am back here now after returning to film in the last month or so, first with the Contax G2 and then adding a Mamiya 6 with the 50 and 75 lenses. Decided before I bust off a single frame of Porta 400 with the Mamiya that I was going to dig through your archive and I'm glad I did. Definitely going to snag a good light meter and use that to evaluate the scenes I shoot with the Mamiya! My Hassy X2D, though I love it dearly, is taking a back seat for a bit, at least, so it's X100VI for my digital and the G2 and/or Mamiya 6 for film.

  • @davecockayne8491
    @davecockayne8491 Před 4 lety

    Very informative,thankyou.

  • @willstevenson8611
    @willstevenson8611 Před 4 lety

    this was incredibly helpful. thank you thank you 🙏🏼

  • @RocketinExile
    @RocketinExile Před 4 lety

    Love this channel

  • @whowho8470
    @whowho8470 Před 3 lety +1

    Well done. Thank you.

  • @mattl347
    @mattl347 Před 4 lety

    Very informative post giving a very clear, simple and concise explaination of the zone system. Nice job 👍

  • @justingarner961
    @justingarner961 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video. I'm just starting out using film cameras. I don't have spot meter but you have made me want to get one. You have also taught me a lot about understanding middle gray and the stops in the chart. Great video which I've gained more knowledge. I absolutely love learning so big shout for the video. Chers Kyle

  • @RS-Amsterdam
    @RS-Amsterdam Před 4 lety +2

    Excellent explanation.Though i would go for 1 stop brighter in the second sample cause you had leverage of 2 stop over the brightest point and, as you explained, film has less problem with overexposure so you get a bit more details in the dark spots. But then within the boundaries of what the film can handle it is also a personal choice.
    I use the 308 for digital shooting cause that helps me mainly with manual flash.
    Good basis for everybody to understand.
    Thanks for sharing.

  • @FrankoFM2
    @FrankoFM2 Před 4 lety

    Great explanation 👍👍🇬🇧

  • @alant8140
    @alant8140 Před 3 lety +1

    Really helpful! Thanks 😊👍

  • @lopescorte104
    @lopescorte104 Před 4 lety +2

    Am i dreaming? another upload... dude, you're spoiling us

  • @MikMilman
    @MikMilman Před 4 lety +1

    Good points on why you should use one.

  • @FSUvinny
    @FSUvinny Před 4 lety +8

    I appreciate this video. I absolutely learned about metering, thoroughly. I would graciously ask though, it would be extremely helpful if you and other youtubers with a presence online would make a video like this that includes discussion about landscape photography but ALSO portrait photography. I'd even greatly appreciate a short one about food photography just to gain the knowledge. Thank you for your hard work, Kyle.

    • @KyleMcDougall
      @KyleMcDougall  Před 4 lety

      Thank you. I don't do much portrait photography at the moment, but I'll keep it in mind for the future.

    • @davidjenkins8009
      @davidjenkins8009 Před 10 měsíci

      Actually, I do not agree. The Zone system was developed for black and white and it works ok with colour negative film. This is because these films have excellent exposure latitude. The weakness of this video is that there was no mention that it was dependent on the exposure latitude of the film. If you use transparency colour film, then you will have to adjust your methods to cope with using transparency film. Also, in a number of scenes, quite frankly he would have been better off using incident light metering, easier, quicker and in low contrast situations more reliable. The video was ok as far as it went, and I really did like the photo in the abandoned building and yes, in that situation the spot meter was the perfect tool. Just think you have overrated it. I did enjoy the video, just wish he had been more technical in his explanation of the Zone system.

  • @jeancammas2134
    @jeancammas2134 Před 3 lety

    thanks a lot man! I don't usually comment too much but your video deserves it. I appreciate it!

  • @FilmPhotographyChannel

    Really well done! Thanks

  • @shaydjohnson8700
    @shaydjohnson8700 Před 4 lety

    Great vid

  • @chadwilder9275
    @chadwilder9275 Před 4 lety +1

    This is awesome

  • @jllanesphoto
    @jllanesphoto Před 4 lety

    Great video, clarified few things. Thanks a lot.

  • @pete7631
    @pete7631 Před 4 lety +1

    I don’t often comment on videos but this is one of the most useful I’ve seen in a long time. I’ve just purchased a film camera and I’m itching to get started but wanted to wait until I was sure I had a good understanding of correct metering since with film you are working blind in a way without the instant feedback you get with a digital camera. I’ve picked up an EOS 3 which has multi spot metering with averaging and live metering updates just like your dedicated spot meter. I now have a good understanding of how this should be used. Thanks Kyle!

  • @michaelricco81
    @michaelricco81 Před 4 lety +1

    Absolutely great video, Kyle. To echo a previous comment, this is a very clear and practical explanation of both spot metering and the zone system. Thank you :)

    • @KyleMcDougall
      @KyleMcDougall  Před 4 lety

      Thank you, Michael!

    • @randallstewart175
      @randallstewart175 Před 4 lety

      When you get into this subject, you have to start somewhere, but No, this is not a clear or practical guide to use and application of the "zone system". If it were a discussion of the zone system, he would have shown how you use the meter to measure any density of tone in any the subject and then translate that reading into a working exposure. He skips the issue of what do you do if you have no "middle grey" tone to measure. Nevertheless, this is subject where you have to start somewhere, and you can only cover so much before the eyeballs roll back into the head.

  • @LukeMcAdams
    @LukeMcAdams Před 3 lety +1

    Not (currently) a film shooter, but this intro to light meter usage is the best I've found online so far. Thanks!

  • @porkbeans2335
    @porkbeans2335 Před 4 lety

    Love this video.

  • @LewisNobleArtist
    @LewisNobleArtist Před 4 lety

    Excellent thank you!

  • @clarhettcoalfield3616
    @clarhettcoalfield3616 Před 3 lety +4

    Kyle gotta love the Ansel Adams laptop lift..... I know, I know it was just the right height...lol. I do Love all your channel, its a class act, I've even tuned into the Podcasts too. Great work.

  • @Nat.ImagesLarge.F.Photographer

    Excellent👍

  • @Thomasbrownphoto
    @Thomasbrownphoto Před 4 lety +1

    Nice video Kyle. My Pentax Digital Spot Meter is probably.. if not the most important bit of gear in my bag.

  • @beniciomoldenado2315
    @beniciomoldenado2315 Před 4 lety +1

    Great video. Thank you. Been making images for many years using film and home processing. Your video is informative and I don't see why these principles would not work with a digital camera on manual mode. These techniques and principles will be valuable to people who want to "really" learn photography. 👍 👍

  • @vproven
    @vproven Před 4 lety

    Excellent.

  • @yvesste-marie2439
    @yvesste-marie2439 Před 5 měsíci

    USING A SPOT METER (SEKONIC L-758dr) FOR THE ZONE SYSTEM
    Interesting demonstration for spot metering for the Zone System.
    It is not always easy to find a middle gray in a colour scene.
    Here is my method to take readings with de Seconic for film photography.
    1- I take a reading of the part of the subject I want to be on zone III.
    2- I hold MID.TONE and with the jog wheel move the indicator to -2 on the scale. This will be the exposure.
    3- I store the result in memory 0, press MODE AND MID.TONE.
    4- I take a second reading for the high light, store this new reading in memory. From this reading I determine the processing time, N -N or +N.
    5- To recall the exposure stored in Memory 0, I press memory recall, MODE AND MID.TONE. In memory recall M and memory number flash, upper left on the meter.
    For slide film, I base the exposure zone VIII.
    For digital, I base the exposure to high light based on the Seconic meter calibration for the camera. The result is for RAW files.

  • @jp9430
    @jp9430 Před 4 lety

    Bruh Thank you!!!! I learned so much in 16 minutes! Much appreciated!

  • @jorge_1984
    @jorge_1984 Před 4 lety

    Thank you Kyle

  • @barrieanthony952
    @barrieanthony952 Před 3 lety +1

    Brilliant explanation, thank you. Only. CZcams video that's clear on this

  • @LScott97
    @LScott97 Před 4 lety

    Great tutorial, well done.👍👍👍🤪

  • @MattJungJinChoi
    @MattJungJinChoi Před 4 lety

    This is such a thoughtful, concise description of spot metering for beginner film photographers!! Thank you so much. Quite comparable to the videos all these hype kids are making out there indulging on their own film photos.

  • @thiagobnla
    @thiagobnla Před 4 lety +1

    great video, man. super informative. I loved the broken chair photo. I'd totally hang it on my wall