To be abundantly clear legends, the Cromo and Greg Seeto references are positive. Those products are great and they helped me catch fish. Here's to ripping off the band-aid & lighting up those Pro-Angler chats🍻
I never knew a video about line could be so interesting. I only have ever used Fluor as leader but I’m now keen to straight through. 1 straight through in 4lb and the leader in 4, 6, 8, 10.
im not really a fc guy as i do prefer the sensitivity but you made a really good argument for it.. i might just have to fish straight through fc more if i were to win id go 1x3lbs, 1x4lbs, 2x5lbs and 1x6lbs
I like tasline as my mainline braid the 12lb is thinners than most 10lb line. I then put on anything from 8lb to 12lb FC leader. I have never really had a favourite fc leader and have used a wide range from Sunline, Wilson, Ocea and blackmagic. I am very keen too find a leader that I like more than others so that I don't have to think about what brand to purchase each time. I am keen to try your fav one out whether I win or not. I wld also like to try straight thru fc but need to get another set up as I am happy with my gear as it is now. Always look forward to you releasing content and really like the way you banter. I too have been a sucker at times buying gear i see on youtube only to find I regret it as its not as good as i thought and the left wondering if the you tubers stitched me up. For some reason I trust your advice, well done brah!
cheers brah!!!! thanks for getting involved dude. yeah it can be a maze out there, no ones fault, just the way it is Caleb. give them a go, you won't be dissapointed.
Great vid very informative running braid fluro 6 and 6 on 1 20 braid 10 fluro on the 2 boat reels 10 pound braid on the bait caster and 30 pound fluro on the beach caster
This video has given so many ideas to catch my first brim on a lure am no expert so I will gust go off you with 4lb and 6lb Even 3lb once again the video was so informative and I learnt a lot as usual love the vid and now what to get
I hear you in regard to the buying lures based on personality. Got a few Cranka crabs, but no breams to catch. I used the normal FC as leader, it is as good and save a few bucks.
Over the years I have used various FC leaders but haven't tried the Harris yet. I usually have 4 rods and reels rigged up. ( 2 with braid and leader for plastics and 2 with straight trough fluoro (daiwa 3/5lb atm) Mainly used FC rock as a leader but also some nitlon dfc. Mainly use 3/4/6 lb leaders
Far out Byron I don’t know how you pack so much information into your videos. It just baffles me every time haha.... I reckon I would go for a couple of 6lb a couple of 8 lb and maybe a 10 or 12 for bigger fish.
Ive always liked berkley vanish. May not be the best on any one point but covers all bases well. Seems to be a good midway between supple and hard abrasion resistance. But i also rate the j thread. The brand i see get the most hot air blown up it is that FC rock stuff. Bloody rubbish! But i havent tried the one you recommend, so in the interest of experimentation and discovery id like to try it. So if i win, id like 3x 4lb and 2x 6lb please. Cheers, keep up the great vids. Really appreciate the openness, bluntness and honesty. Sponsorship and marketing make purchase choices very hard at times.
Well that's one mistake I made. I've got 2 spools of fluro carbon both over 150m whitch I use for leader hahaha good to learn something, definatly want to try straight though fluro once I get another reel. But I could do with 3,4,5,8 and 10lb fc leader. LOVE this chanel.
Sweet.. Had a look, a little hard to tell now packaging is gone and the sticker on the spool is a little worse for wear. I think I might be due for some new leader line.
I have definitely considered jumping onboard with the straight through FC for my hard bodies but not really convinced or locked in on where to start so you have certainly helped, thanks mate as always love the honest reviews. For the majority of my fishing I would say a 4,6,8,10lb leader of the Harris stuff and a 6lb FC would suit me perfectly, thanks mate keep up the good work 🤙🎣
Great info again, I haven't tried straight thru FC yet, though I have been considering it, Wasn't sure which one to get so congrats, your vid has convinced me to give the Daiwa product a go. I have used the Chinu Harris in 4lbs and it works well.
Hi Byron, you might be interested in the results of my leader material testing, which is not an exhaustive test, and was to determine if buying the advertised harder FC had any real benefits. Tested 6, 8, 10, 12lbs Berkley Vanish in casting FC, 6lbs Nitlon leader FC, 8lbs Yamatoyo Chinu Harris leader FC. The test I did was to determine abrasion resistance as opposed to being cut. Hard should last longer than less hard. My test showed that abrasion resistance is weighted towards hardness, or put another way 2 lines of equal diameter wear through at a different rates under the same load. Softer casting FC didn't last as long as harder leader FC if both were the same diameter. The 8lbs Chinu (0.235mm) lasted 24 passes while the 6lbs Berkley(0.230mm) lasted 16 passes. The 6lbs Nitlon (0.218mm) lasted 17 passes.
Not sure I'm quite ready for straight through yet. I'll stick with leader and braid for now. My fishing usually consist of using 4,6,8,10 or 12lb Fluro depending where and what I'm fishing for.
Braid and fc leader are my go too. I am in the market looking for some new leader. So many brands to choose from. I will drop into hot takle and check it our. 2 x 6lb & 3 x 10lb are my go to sizes. The vids help alot. Thank you.
Great vid mate. Very informative. Haven't used straight through FC for years but you've got me wondering now 😂. If I win its got to be 2/4lb 2/6lb and an 8lb Yamatoyo Chinu Harris Fighter leader. Its great stuff.
Really informative Byron I've enjoyed my time with straight through fc I heard great things about the Daiwa Finesse in 4lb and I was able to put a serious amount of pressure on it Was really inspired to give it a crack thanks to Adam Costa, in saying that I've always found myself picking up a braid/leader combo for bream Casting distance for me is everything and find that the fish aren't too spooky with the line shadow in my system but also never really put in the time for analysis to really see how much is does affect my fishing If I won, I'd love 4lb,6lb,8lb in Daiwa Jthread fc as I've found it being the leader I predominantly grab to tie on.. love it!!
Hey buddy, thanks for getting involved and sharing your thoughts, I'll throw your entry in, just so you're fully aware Adam is what you would call the opposite of a supporter of this channel. Thanks for getting involved mate.
Weirdly, this is perfect timing. Today, I was thinking and researching this exact thing so this upload is fantastic and helped ALOT!! Thanks a lot you champion 🤙🏻
I'm fairly new to lure fishing so I think I'll stick to the braid and fluorocarbon leader for awhile. 4lb 2x6lb 8lb and 10lb. Learning alot from your videos mate, cheers.
Byron, great video, great research and break down, amazing video keep it up Daiwa J-thread is my go to. 1 x 20lb leader 2 x 10lb leader 1 x 6lb leader 1 x 4lb leader Great to see more videos.
had to smile mate wen u said the lightest fc u use is 3 to10 being the heaviest. my lightest is 20 up to 60. doesnt matter if u r using light medium heavy fc it all acts n reacts all the same. pleased u talked bout under spooling the spin reel with fc, thats important info n if u dont know this it can make a sesh frustrating. i under spool my spin reels by 5mm, remember i am using heavier fc. something that seems to help me wen i respool my spin n casting reels with fc i tie a heavy clip(not lure or hook)n spool it out while on idle at the start of the sesh. i will do this a couple of times over a couple of seshs. it just seems to help with the spring/coil tension in the fc wen casting n it performs pretty gud for fc after that. i am using 20 to 60 so 3 to 10 it might not work.
I was looking forward to this video and it didn’t disappoint. Some great insight and really well broken down. I’m definitely keen now to give the bream a go on straight through with a bit more confidence. I’d love to try some 4 and 6lb straight through and 4,6,8lb leader
Hi Byron my main fishing outfit for Bream spinning in the Sydney basin is my Shimano T Curve Premium 7'2" 21TCP722SPL rod with a Shimano Vanford 1000 spin reel spooled with the Gosen W Hard type 8 casting braid at 10lb at an unbelievable 0.4PE!, as any thinner line I get air knots with wind.. My fluorocarbon leader is a little hard to get in Australia and its called Seaguar Gold label at 6lb with an amazing 0.185mm diameter (if I compare this to the Sunline FC Rock 6lb line which is thicker at 0.205mm and the FC Rocks 5lb is thicker 0.190mm!) Seaguar Gold label fluorocarbon leader is sold mainly in the US and is considered America's top of the line fluorocarbon leader. I need to be very finesse at Port Hacking due to the crystal clear clean water and it being a high pressure fished river within the large city of Sydney. The rod, reel outfit is light as a feather and casts at forever distances, the Gosen braid casts even better than my old line of 6lb 0.4PE Varivas Avani Light Game. I tried a Shimano Stella 1000 reel with this setup but it felt a little heavier and the balance was off than the Vanford so I went with the lighter Vanford reel. I like the tech side of the talk you do, thanks for the interesting information.
I would love to have a crack at straight through but I just love fishing fluoro to braid via FG is hard to try anything else . I have been finding it is so hard to get quality leader at the moment because I feel the shops are struggling to get stock so end up just stocking what ever they can get .. rarely see 3pound in stock but 3,4,5,6,8 is where its at I reckon .. just my 2 bob as a hack lol .
I'm a braid to fc leader angler and always felt a bit scared to try straight through fluoro. It's nice to hear the full explanation on applications that work best for each set up, great video. Would love some leader 2x4lb, 1x6lb, 1x8lb 1x10lb
Always been a bit uncertain as to when to use braid/straight-through FC, as well as what brands to use, this cleared it up a lot! Can also stand by FG knots, they are amazing! Particularly with spinning and baitcast rods that have very small eyes on the runners where other knots will get caught up!
Appreciate the info, for myself I would I pretty much only use the braid to leader combo for my fishing. I would love the Harris leader in a 4,6,8 and 2x 10lb. These would cover me for 95% of my fishing applications. Love your work.
Hey Byron! Not sure if the comment o wrote posted.... Apologies if there are 2 here! Love the idea of running straight through, but was always a bit shy. I'm going to give it a crack though now! I'd love some 4lb spinning fluro, and a set of 4, 6, 8 and 10lb of the traditional leader fluro to try out! I'm DMing Hot tackle to get a price today!
This was good timing as just the other day I could see heaps of good bream but they would shy away before my lure even got to them, if I was to win I'd love 3lb, 4lb, 6lb in the daiwa FC j-thread, cheers for another great video
I now have two of my reels spooled with 6 and 4 lb FC. one is an Exist the other my new Revelry. Totally get the better reel longer rod combo to give you the best chance of flicking the lure far enough to fool a fish. Also a great bit of advice in regards to trebles and pulling the hooks with the braid FC combo. I use my straight through FC reels with Hard bodies only .Thanks for another great Vid.
I run yamatoyo chinu Harris in the 10lb and 8lb for targeting golden perch and swear by it, would love some straight thru fluro to give ago as I have just started fishing for bream, I think this channel has definitely given me some confidence and starting to put a few in the boat !
Thanks for the info mate. Still keen on using braid to FC and getting used to going smaller line size to increase the bite. Still find im a bit heavy handed so a 6, 2x 8, 10lb , then a 4lb when i get aventurous out of my comfort zone. Interesting on the shelf life situation as i have binned a new spool of leader due to breakage and it took me a couple of trips and fish to realise it. Your vid has explained this.cheers mate
Hi Byron... I'm happy with 6lb fluoro works well for me on Bream I step it up to 10lb when chasing flat fish . I agree you definitely lose distance casting and a bit of sensitivity ....but you don't get snapped of as often as with braid . plastics are not that expensive but I still hate losing them.. Great video and as always love your honesty .🐟
Great work as usual, you have now got me worried as my fav fluoro is no longer available, so I bought quite a few spools not knowing there was a shelf life. I always knew the heat and uv, but never age. So now I need to enter the comp just in case. 2x3 lb, 1x4lb, 1x6lb and 1x8lb. Thanks for making me paranoid, I will have to go to the shed and have a check if my line stash 😉
Thanks @byron, this one is useful for me as I’m looking to spool up a 2000 with some Finesse. I’d probably look at 4lb straight through and a mix of different leader strengths
Another informative video. Never new there was 2types of fluorocarbon. I only fish braid to FC. If am lucky enough to win then I would like a bit of both between 6 to 8 pound. Keep the video’s coming love your work and trust your commentary and advice. 👍
+1 thumbs up for Chinu Harris from me too - switched a while ago and its great stuff. Would not say no to a re-stock in the 2 - 6 Lbs sizes! I run Sunline Sniper on two of my reels as straight-through and still trying to get used to it with the odd bird nest. Good quality FC and the right rod make fishing hardbodies a breeze.
I mainly fish in saltwater so I would love a couple of packs of 20 Ib mono and a couple of packs of 20 Ib braided line with a 10 Ib liter for throwing soft plastics. It would greatly be appreciated as of right now I'm having to purchase the cheap mono found in the bins your talking about. Love the videos brother ❤! Keep them coming.
Thanks for the tips Byron. I’m a light estuary and freshwater amateur trying to better my baitcasting skills. I’d love to try a 2x 3pound, 2x 4 pound and a 6 to keep me in the braid and FC leader realm. Cheers
Next combo I would like is a good jerkbait/crank combo and been looking at doing straight through FC around that 6-8lb for bass. Great little vid mate!
Straight through fc will be my crank air setup for next bream season. As you seen when you were up that 6lb Harris fighter is stronger as anything. By far my fave!
Been using the Yamatoyo Harris fighter, great stuff and never had a drama Great video mate, informative and to the point Mint bro👌 Mixed bag of leader would be nice👍
Great info here. I can't exactly explain why, but I'm not the biggest fan of braid. Always go straight through fluro (Jthread 6lb mostly). Probably just following the old man and what I'm used too lol. Always afew spares rolls in the tackle box👌
Great video again Byron ! Very informative 👍 I haven’t really got too into the straight through FC yet , but can defiantly understand the benefits in certain situations. Particularly on spooky Bream on flats. I would go for 3 x spools of the FC Yamato leader in 4lb and 2 x spools of 3lb Spinning Fluro . That would suit the type of finesse bream fishing I like to do.
6lb fc rock on 10lb castaway is generally what I roll. No issues with knots etc for me. Tried many different brands of braid and leader and happy with what I use. I have tried straight through in the past and generally used it on the shallow flats as you referenced.
Funny that you put this video out as I've been trying to search for a good FC leader to use having dropped a couple of trevally on 6lb in the estuary over the last week (one right at my feet trying to land it). I'd definitely be keen to try out lighter leaders to see the strike rate increase while breaming. Unfortunately I only fish from the land atm so lighter leaders aren't as kind to me but I also want to try out straight through fc for a whiting setup. 4lb straight through and 4-10lb on the leaders sounds like the way to go I guess? Thanks for another great vid mate
I never used braid for bream fishing I’ll use it for flathead also when u look at Fluor carbon lines you have to read the dinameter of the line just because it says 4lb it doesn’t mean it’s for lb most are closer to 4.5 lb so looking at mono lines u need to look at if it’s 0.17 mmor 0.20mm some monos are thicker even tho it may say 4lb and ect
Bloody great video Byron, very informative. Loved the introduction also 👏🏼. Id be using a few spools of 4lb for my standard breambo fishing and then a few rolls of 6lb for my Coorong brutes. 👌🏼🎣
I've used fc before straight through and liked it but strayed back to Sunline super pe. I just like the feedback too much. It's for sure a bias for.me, I've caught many more fish on my braid combos so I am more comfortable with it. Usually fishing 6-8lb
Great info again, agree with the over spooling of FC, started straight through last year and had issues with bird nests. Found the FC straight through really helped with top water helping keep the treble hooks in, even though they say use mono for top water. I would go with 6lb and 8lb of the leader and maybe a 4lb, just not sure if I could handle the fish well enough, and a couple of 6lb j-thread finesse fluoro.
Straight through FC is something that I haven't thought about for a while, after having some bad experience with bird nests in the past with straight through FC in the first few casts, I decided not to use it anymore. Seems like as you mentioned in the vid, it will need 1-2 outings to get used to and let the line take the shape of the spool, I might give it a go again. As for me, 4lb straight through and 4-10lb on the leaders would be good.
Great video and information as always. Would be keen to try other brands of leader. I’ve been using black magic for a long time, so far has not let me down. Maybe I should give something else a go. Don’t know what you are missing if you don’t try right?
yeah man 100%, I'd totally try different brands and totally have. I was using some of the heavier black magic over in NZ for a few days. 16lb I think it was, seemed to do the job ok :)
Interesting topic, I’ve never considered straight through flouro but will give it a go if I can find it. If fortunate enough for a giveaway, would love to try the Jbraid in 4lb and 6lb And 3,4 and 6 for the Harris Leader Thanks for all the content
Another awesome informative video👍- if I were lucky enough to win I would prefer a packet each of 4lb and 6lb leader and for straight through - 6lb - I always learn something from your video’s, my absolute favourite is the one about how to fish in a kayak tournament - keep up the great content 👍👊
Fantastic and informative, I like straight through f.c. I was going to switch back to mono, but your suggestion makes a lot of sense. Thanks for your research and testing. All the best from Gippsland.
Straight thru 3lb fluoro has increased my numbers on the flats by heaps.... I've got 5lb of the daiwa stuff for my crabs/structure cranking. Great vid as always mate, if I win I'd love some 3lb and 5lb straight thru and the rest in 4lb yamatoyo chinu Harris leader 👌🏽 I've been using that leader for a few seasons now and definitely won't go back to the brittle fc rock in the light stuff 🤙🏽
Been toying with straight through FC or ages. Great to get advice that will help get the best experience that will help let me know if it’s for me or not. Have a heap of 50m spools of FC, so spinning FC for me.
All love watching your CZcams channel. I'm learning a lot on fishing 🎣. Cos i just started fishing. Last year Dec. That's why must of the time I'm only buying that is on special. Good luck to all on the give away ☺️
Great informative vid as always Byron. I actually tried 4lb straight through FC on one of my smaller reels a few months back. I didn't mind it, though a very different feel to braid and FC leader and took some getting used to. Keen to rig up some more straight through on other reels so I’d be keen on 2 x 4lb and 1 x 6lb in the Sunline FC2, then maybe 1 x 4lb and 1 x 6lb in the Harris FB leader. Sweet - thank you!
Thanks Byron. I've been looking at straight through leader for a while. But haven't found any great information or advice on this. Great video as always. I'll be looking at getting some for the last Yak Hunters round this weekend coming. Bream at Ansons Bay.
Straight FC is definitely more expensive to spool....works best on light gear, so much fun and fish all day. What will cost you the most is knot failures, so check ur knots and line abrasions, cut & retie if neeed...lets go😁
Another ripper Byron. I am still in the braid with fc stage looking to expand to the straight through. Would be awesome to gain a couple of good quality 4lb and 6lb and a single 10lb for the bay.
Hi Byron, I am getting into the lighter style of estury fishing I am always having trouble snapping my Braid-FC at the knot when casting. The knot always gets caught up in the eylets and is usually snapped by the 5th cast. I have tried double blood and F knot. Note: It is not the knot that is failing, failure happens just after the knot in the fluro
Interesting stuff. Not sure I'm quite brave enough for 3lb and 4lb main line just yet, so I'll stick with the 6lb braid! I'd go for leader fc, with a couple each of 4lb and 6lb and an 8lb for chasing flatties.
No way! I just told my friends about the Daiwa J Thread finesse fc earlier on the same day! I’ve been using 4lb straight through Sunline Shooter Invisible for bream when kayaking around structures. Great high quality line. I have recently tried the Varivas Ajing Master Blue Moon fc straight through 2.5lb for catching small tailor, whiting but I did catch a 40cm flathead and 37cm trevally with this 2.5lb FC lucky me😄. I do agree that straight through fc not so ideal when fishing plastics as it’s harder to set the hook properly. In terms of choice of good fc leader, Sunline FC Rock probably is the ‘go to’ one when I don’t see the need of being too specific. Gosen JUDE has to be my no.1 choice of quality fc leader , anything from 4lb to 20lb . Tight lines!
I'm always a braid and leader type of guy, not very keen on full fluro. Plus, I like matching my braid to the colour of my rod/reel to make em pop ahaha
Just looked at my fishing DVD collection and daiwa called it next level super sick DVD Greg bit cool but mica Adams on the flats is sick and Andrew boudolavich walking the flatts think I spell it right sorry Andrew if I didnt yur a south Coast legend go the estry perch
I tried to put straight through fluro on my 2500 reel but it just felt like it would not hold the reel shape like braid does it hugs the reel. Whereas the fluro feels like its trying to escape off the reel haha.
Currently run Sunline FC Rock leader and FC Sniper straight through. If I got a look in Sunline Small Game in 3lb and 4lb and Chinu Harris in 4lb, 6lb and 8lb. Cheers
To be abundantly clear legends, the Cromo and Greg Seeto references are positive. Those products are great and they helped me catch fish. Here's to ripping off the band-aid & lighting up those Pro-Angler chats🍻
I never knew a video about line could be so interesting. I only have ever used Fluor as leader but I’m now keen to straight through. 1 straight through in 4lb and the leader in 4, 6, 8, 10.
Thanks Anthony! Entered buddy, glad you enjoyed it mate
Same with braid.. Got some Cheapish to get me going again.. Performance dropped so quick... Then replaced with spiderwire and loving it
Appreciate the non-biased opinions.
im not really a fc guy as i do prefer the sensitivity but you made a really good argument for it.. i might just have to fish straight through fc more
if i were to win id go 1x3lbs, 1x4lbs, 2x5lbs and 1x6lbs
Entered Angus, thanks for commenting legend
At 3:18, that’s my home ground haha, love it and up where you were, is some real donkeys among the racks
Yup yup! The paddock has some giants in it
I like tasline as my mainline braid the 12lb is thinners than most 10lb line. I then put on anything from 8lb to 12lb FC leader. I have never really had a favourite fc leader and have used a wide range from Sunline, Wilson, Ocea and blackmagic. I am very keen too find a leader that I like more than others so that I don't have to think about what brand to purchase each time. I am keen to try your fav one out whether I win or not. I wld also like to try straight thru fc but need to get another set up as I am happy with my gear as it is now. Always look forward to you releasing content and really like the way you banter. I too have been a sucker at times buying gear i see on youtube only to find I regret it as its not as good as i thought and the left wondering if the you tubers stitched me up. For some reason I trust your advice, well done brah!
cheers brah!!!! thanks for getting involved dude. yeah it can be a maze out there, no ones fault, just the way it is Caleb. give them a go, you won't be dissapointed.
Great vid very informative running braid fluro 6 and 6 on 1 20 braid 10 fluro on the 2 boat reels 10 pound braid on the bait caster and 30 pound fluro on the beach caster
Happy to help!
This video has given so many ideas to catch my first brim on a lure am no expert so I will gust go off you with 4lb and 6lb Even 3lb once again the video was so informative and I learnt a lot as usual love the vid and now what to get
Great Xavier!
I hear you in regard to the buying lures based on personality. Got a few Cranka crabs, but no breams to catch. I used the normal FC as leader, it is as good and save a few bucks.
unlucky mate, they are catchers!
Over the years I have used various FC leaders but haven't tried the Harris yet. I usually have 4 rods and reels rigged up. ( 2 with braid and leader for plastics and 2 with straight trough fluoro (daiwa 3/5lb atm)
Mainly used FC rock as a leader but also some nitlon dfc.
Mainly use 3/4/6 lb leaders
In!!!
Far out Byron I don’t know how you pack so much information into your videos. It just baffles me every time haha.... I reckon I would go for a couple of 6lb a couple of 8 lb and maybe a 10 or 12 for bigger fish.
It’a my pleasure buddy. Entered buddy
Ive always liked berkley vanish. May not be the best on any one point but covers all bases well. Seems to be a good midway between supple and hard abrasion resistance. But i also rate the j thread. The brand i see get the most hot air blown up it is that FC rock stuff. Bloody rubbish!
But i havent tried the one you recommend, so in the interest of experimentation and discovery id like to try it. So if i win, id like 3x 4lb and 2x 6lb please. Cheers, keep up the great vids. Really appreciate the openness, bluntness and honesty. Sponsorship and marketing make purchase choices very hard at times.
Thanks Scott! Entered legend and I agree with your assessment in FC Rock.
Hi Byron, another really informative video. I’d like 3 spools of the 3lb Chinu Harris and 2 spools of the 4lb Sunline spinning FC.
Thanks Alf! Got your entry here, good choices imo. Tight lines dude
Once again I have learnt something respect Bryon for your honest reviews this is with out doubt the best CZcams fishing channel Thanks again mate 👍
I appreciate that Tony, glad you enjoyed another ep legend.
I learnt a lot from this, cheers Byron
My pleasure man. Gotta share the info!
Well that's one mistake I made. I've got 2 spools of fluro carbon both over 150m whitch I use for leader hahaha good to learn something, definatly want to try straight though fluro once I get another reel.
But I could do with 3,4,5,8 and 10lb fc leader.
LOVE this chanel.
check the leader, you could have bought a bulk spool, but hard to tell! Entered Latief!
Sweet.. Had a look, a little hard to tell now packaging is gone and the sticker on the spool is a little worse for wear. I think I might be due for some new leader line.
Good info. Looking at starting tournaments next season. Straight through 3lb and 4lb would be my pick.
I fish light too, both Harris FC Leader and straight through FC at 4lb.
Hi mate what FC straight through do you use?
I have definitely considered jumping onboard with the straight through FC for my hard bodies but not really convinced or locked in on where to start so you have certainly helped, thanks mate as always love the honest reviews.
For the majority of my fishing I would say a 4,6,8,10lb leader of the Harris stuff and a 6lb FC would suit me perfectly, thanks mate keep up the good work 🤙🎣
My pleasure Daniel, thanks again for sharing your thoughts mate! Tight lines
Another great video. I have wanted to give straight spinning fluro a go for a while now so if i won i would totaly get the spinning fluro.
enter correctly Damian and you'll get a chance brother!!!!
Great info again, I haven't tried straight thru FC yet, though I have been considering it, Wasn't sure which one to get so congrats, your vid has convinced me to give the Daiwa product a go. I have used the Chinu Harris in 4lbs and it works well.
awesome to hear Steve! hope you get into them mate.
Hi Byron, you might be interested in the results of my leader material testing, which is not an exhaustive test, and was to determine if buying the advertised harder FC had any real benefits.
Tested 6, 8, 10, 12lbs Berkley Vanish in casting FC, 6lbs Nitlon leader FC, 8lbs Yamatoyo Chinu Harris leader FC.
The test I did was to determine abrasion resistance as opposed to being cut. Hard should last longer than less hard.
My test showed that abrasion resistance is weighted towards hardness, or put another way 2 lines of equal diameter wear through at a different rates under the same load. Softer casting FC didn't last as long as harder leader FC if both were the same diameter. The 8lbs Chinu (0.235mm) lasted 24 passes while the 6lbs Berkley(0.230mm) lasted 16 passes. The 6lbs Nitlon (0.218mm) lasted 17 passes.
Not sure I'm quite ready for straight through yet. I'll stick with leader and braid for now. My fishing usually consist of using 4,6,8,10 or 12lb Fluro depending where and what I'm fishing for.
Entered Terry!
Braid and fc leader are my go too. I am in the market looking for some new leader. So many brands to choose from. I will drop into hot takle and check it our. 2 x 6lb & 3 x 10lb are my go to sizes. The vids help alot. Thank you.
My pleasure Nigel, glad they help mate
Great vid mate. Very informative. Haven't used straight through FC for years but you've got me wondering now 😂.
If I win its got to be 2/4lb 2/6lb and an 8lb Yamatoyo Chinu Harris Fighter leader. Its great stuff.
Really informative Byron
I've enjoyed my time with straight through fc
I heard great things about the Daiwa Finesse in 4lb and I was able to put a serious amount of pressure on it
Was really inspired to give it a crack thanks to Adam Costa, in saying that I've always found myself picking up a braid/leader combo for bream
Casting distance for me is everything and find that the fish aren't too spooky with the line shadow in my system but also never really put in the time for analysis to really see how much is does affect my fishing
If I won, I'd love 4lb,6lb,8lb in Daiwa Jthread fc as I've found it being the leader I predominantly grab to tie on.. love it!!
Hey buddy, thanks for getting involved and sharing your thoughts, I'll throw your entry in, just so you're fully aware Adam is what you would call the opposite of a supporter of this channel. Thanks for getting involved mate.
Weirdly, this is perfect timing. Today, I was thinking and researching this exact thing so this upload is fantastic and helped ALOT!! Thanks a lot you champion 🤙🏻
Glad it was helpful HW! how cool
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I'm fairly new to lure fishing so I think I'll stick to the braid and fluorocarbon leader for awhile. 4lb 2x6lb 8lb and 10lb. Learning alot from your videos mate, cheers.
In, thanks Rex!
Byron, great video, great research and break down, amazing video keep it up
Daiwa J-thread is my go to.
1 x 20lb leader
2 x 10lb leader
1 x 6lb leader
1 x 4lb leader
Great to see more videos.
Entered legend!
Did I hear hot tackle? My man has joined the OTC crew 😎
100% Dude OTC 4 life.
had to smile mate wen u said the lightest fc u use is 3 to10 being the heaviest. my lightest is 20 up to 60. doesnt matter if u r using light medium heavy fc it all acts n reacts all the same. pleased u talked bout under spooling the spin reel with fc, thats important info n if u dont know this it can make a sesh frustrating. i under spool my spin reels by 5mm, remember i am using heavier fc. something that seems to help me wen i respool my spin n casting reels with fc i tie a heavy clip(not lure or hook)n spool it out while on idle at the start of the sesh. i will do this a couple of times over a couple of seshs. it just seems to help with the spring/coil tension in the fc wen casting n it performs pretty gud for fc after that. i am using 20 to 60 so 3 to 10 it might not work.
Hhahahah, thanks for sharing your thoughts dude, I’ve heard of people doing something similar with mono, haven’t thought about trying it with mono.
I was looking forward to this video and it didn’t disappoint. Some great insight and really well broken down. I’m definitely keen now to give the bream a go on straight through with a bit more confidence. I’d love to try some 4 and 6lb straight through and 4,6,8lb leader
Thanks Legend!!!
Hi Byron my main fishing outfit for Bream spinning in the Sydney basin is my Shimano T Curve Premium 7'2" 21TCP722SPL rod with a Shimano Vanford 1000 spin reel spooled with the Gosen W Hard type 8 casting braid at 10lb at an unbelievable 0.4PE!, as any thinner line I get air knots with wind..
My fluorocarbon leader is a little hard to get in Australia and its called Seaguar Gold label at 6lb with an amazing 0.185mm diameter (if I compare this to the Sunline FC Rock 6lb line which is thicker at 0.205mm and the FC Rocks 5lb is thicker 0.190mm!) Seaguar Gold label fluorocarbon leader is sold mainly in the US and is considered America's top of the line fluorocarbon leader.
I need to be very finesse at Port Hacking due to the crystal clear clean water and it being a high pressure fished river within the large city of Sydney.
The rod, reel outfit is light as a feather and casts at forever distances, the Gosen braid casts even better than my old line of 6lb 0.4PE Varivas Avani Light Game. I tried a Shimano Stella 1000 reel with this setup but it felt a little heavier and the balance was off than the Vanford so I went with the lighter Vanford reel.
I like the tech side of the talk you do, thanks for the interesting information.
I would love to have a crack at straight through but I just love fishing fluoro to braid via FG is hard to try anything else . I have been finding it is so hard to get quality leader at the moment because I feel the shops are struggling to get stock so end up just stocking what ever they can get .. rarely see 3pound in stock but 3,4,5,6,8 is where its at I reckon .. just my 2 bob as a hack lol .
I'm a braid to fc leader angler and always felt a bit scared to try straight through fluoro. It's nice to hear the full explanation on applications that work best for each set up, great video. Would love some leader 2x4lb, 1x6lb, 1x8lb 1x10lb
Nice Adam! Thanks for getting involved dude!
Thanks for the info. 4,6,8,10 leader would cover my beam and light flathead estuary fishing needs.
Always been a bit uncertain as to when to use braid/straight-through FC, as well as what brands to use, this cleared it up a lot! Can also stand by FG knots, they are amazing! Particularly with spinning and baitcast rods that have very small eyes on the runners where other knots will get caught up!
Glad it was helpful!
Appreciate the info, for myself I would I pretty much only use the braid to leader combo for my fishing. I would love the Harris leader in a 4,6,8 and 2x 10lb. These would cover me for 95% of my fishing applications. Love your work.
My pleasure Nato. Entered buddy.
Hey Byron! Not sure if the comment o wrote posted.... Apologies if there are 2 here! Love the idea of running straight through, but was always a bit shy. I'm going to give it a crack though now! I'd love some 4lb spinning fluro, and a set of 4, 6, 8 and 10lb of the traditional leader fluro to try out! I'm DMing Hot tackle to get a price today!
all good dude!!!
This was good timing as just the other day I could see heaps of good bream but they would shy away before my lure even got to them, if I was to win I'd love 3lb, 4lb, 6lb in the daiwa FC j-thread, cheers for another great video
Entered legend! Thanks Simon appreciate you getting involved again buddy
Loving the content man, 3x6 lb and 2x4lb of the Yamato Chinu Harris fighter would be awesome! Cheers 👍
Noted and entered buddy
I now have two of my reels spooled with 6 and 4 lb FC. one is an Exist the other my new Revelry. Totally get the better reel longer rod combo to give you the best chance of flicking the lure far enough to fool a fish. Also a great bit of advice in regards to trebles and pulling the hooks with the braid FC combo. I use my straight through FC reels with Hard bodies only .Thanks for another great Vid.
I run yamatoyo chinu Harris in the 10lb and 8lb for targeting golden perch and swear by it, would love some straight thru fluro to give ago as I have just started fishing for bream, I think this channel has definitely given me some confidence and starting to put a few in the boat !
Aww yeah! get into it Chris!
Thanks for the info mate. Still keen on using braid to FC and getting used to going smaller line size to increase the bite. Still find im a bit heavy handed so a 6, 2x 8, 10lb , then a 4lb when i get aventurous out of my comfort zone. Interesting on the shelf life situation as i have binned a new spool of leader due to breakage and it took me a couple of trips and fish to realise it. Your vid has explained this.cheers mate
my pleasure buddy, hopefully that doesnt happen often and you get onto some good stuff soon!!!!
Hi Byron... I'm happy with 6lb fluoro works well for me on Bream I step it up to 10lb when chasing flat fish . I agree you definitely lose distance casting and a bit of sensitivity ....but you don't get snapped of as often as with braid . plastics are not that expensive but I still hate losing them.. Great video and as always love your honesty .🐟
Great!
Great work as usual, you have now got me worried as my fav fluoro is no longer available, so I bought quite a few spools not knowing there was a shelf life. I always knew the heat and uv, but never age.
So now I need to enter the comp just in case. 2x3 lb, 1x4lb, 1x6lb and 1x8lb.
Thanks for making me paranoid, I will have to go to the shed and have a check if my line stash 😉
Just keep them in a nice dry place and you'll be fine. hahaha, nice excuse Aaron. as always you're in legend.
Thanks @byron, this one is useful for me as I’m looking to spool up a 2000 with some Finesse. I’d probably look at 4lb straight through and a mix of different leader strengths
Awesome!!!
Another informative video. Never new there was 2types of fluorocarbon. I only fish braid to FC. If am lucky enough to win then I would like a bit of both between 6 to 8 pound. Keep the video’s coming love your work and trust your commentary and advice. 👍
Thanks Gregory, appreciate you getting involved buddy! tight lines man
3lb,4lb X2 and I would love some 4lb for straight through a couple of reels
Just sending it for bream 😁
Awwww yeahhhh. In! thanks buddy
+1 thumbs up for Chinu Harris from me too - switched a while ago and its great stuff. Would not say no to a re-stock in the 2 - 6 Lbs sizes! I run Sunline Sniper on two of my reels as straight-through and still trying to get used to it with the odd bird nest. Good quality FC and the right rod make fishing hardbodies a breeze.
100% couldn’t agree more Matthew! Entered legend.
Id love 3 rolls of the 4lb chinu and 2 of the 6lb my 2 most used sizes on the gold coast and i would love to try it heard heaps of great things!
Entered thanks legend!!!
I mainly fish in saltwater so I would love a couple of packs of 20 Ib mono and a couple of packs of 20 Ib braided line with a 10 Ib liter for throwing soft plastics. It would greatly be appreciated as of right now I'm having to purchase the cheap mono found in the bins your talking about. Love the videos brother ❤! Keep them coming.
Thanks Ronnie for you comment mate. The giveaway is The products I mentioned in the giveaway buddy. Tight lines mate!
GREAT FISHING VIDEO AGAIN MY FRIEND!! YOU HELPED INSPIRE ME TO POST!!
Glad I could help legend. Thanks mate!
@@ByronTeaHill keep up the hard work 🤙🏼👊🏼
Great video mate, would truely appreciate some line! If possible, 1 packet of 6pound and 1 packet of 8 pound in the Harris Leader would be amazing!
Thanks for the tips Byron. I’m a light estuary and freshwater amateur trying to better my baitcasting skills. I’d love to try a 2x 3pound, 2x 4 pound and a 6 to keep me in the braid and FC leader realm. Cheers
Good luck!
Would love to spool up a reel with fluro and throw some hards and catch some fish
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Next combo I would like is a good jerkbait/crank combo and been looking at doing straight through FC around that 6-8lb for bass. Great little vid mate!
cool dude
Been fishing braid with mono Knotted with FG knot. Never fished Fluro before, keen to try it if I win
Well the entry details are in the video, so enter and good luck!
Straight through fc will be my crank air setup for next bream season.
As you seen when you were up that 6lb Harris fighter is stronger as anything. By far my fave!
100% dude, I think the Harris fighter breaks higher than it’s rating imo
Been using the Yamatoyo Harris fighter, great stuff and never had a drama
Great video mate, informative and to the point
Mint bro👌
Mixed bag of leader would be nice👍
Glad you enjoyed it
Great info here. I can't exactly explain why, but I'm not the biggest fan of braid. Always go straight through fluro (Jthread 6lb mostly). Probably just following the old man and what I'm used too lol. Always afew spares rolls in the tackle box👌
my pleasure Matt.
Great video again Byron ! Very informative 👍 I haven’t really got too into the straight through FC yet , but can defiantly understand the benefits in certain situations. Particularly on spooky Bream on flats. I would go for 3 x spools of the FC Yamato leader in 4lb and 2 x spools of 3lb Spinning Fluro . That would suit the type of finesse bream fishing I like to do.
Thanks jack
6lb fc rock on 10lb castaway is generally what I roll. No issues with knots etc for me. Tried many different brands of braid and leader and happy with what I use. I have tried straight through in the past and generally used it on the shallow flats as you referenced.
Informative vid, thanks. Good luck to those entering.
Funny that you put this video out as I've been trying to search for a good FC leader to use having dropped a couple of trevally on 6lb in the estuary over the last week (one right at my feet trying to land it). I'd definitely be keen to try out lighter leaders to see the strike rate increase while breaming. Unfortunately I only fish from the land atm so lighter leaders aren't as kind to me but I also want to try out straight through fc for a whiting setup. 4lb straight through and 4-10lb on the leaders sounds like the way to go I guess? Thanks for another great vid mate
yeah I get that, too light land based and you end up loosing a lot of lures! thanks for sharing buddy
I never used braid for bream fishing I’ll use it for flathead also when u look at Fluor carbon lines you have to read the dinameter of the line just because it says 4lb it doesn’t mean it’s for lb most are closer to 4.5 lb so looking at mono lines u need to look at if it’s 0.17 mmor 0.20mm some monos are thicker even tho it may say 4lb and ect
Awesome content, fluro gets a bad wrap bit once you get the line management sorted it works a treat 🤙
Totally agree Wade!
Bloody great video Byron, very informative. Loved the introduction also 👏🏼.
Id be using a few spools of 4lb for my standard breambo fishing and then a few rolls of 6lb for my Coorong brutes. 👌🏼🎣
yewww!!!! entered legend. mate we need to go for a fish!
@@ByronTeaHill sounds good to me. 🎣
I've used fc before straight through and liked it but strayed back to Sunline super pe. I just like the feedback too much. It's for sure a bias for.me, I've caught many more fish on my braid combos so I am more comfortable with it. Usually fishing 6-8lb
nice dude!
Great vid as always Byron! I’d get 2x4lb and 3x6lb!
You're in legend!
if the give away is still running would love 2 packs of 4lb 2 of 6lb and 2 of 8lb
Great info again, agree with the over spooling of FC, started straight through last year and had issues with bird nests. Found the FC straight through really helped with top water helping keep the treble hooks in, even though they say use mono for top water. I would go with 6lb and 8lb of the leader and maybe a 4lb, just not sure if I could handle the fish well enough, and a couple of 6lb j-thread finesse fluoro.
Straight through FC is something that I haven't thought about for a while, after having some bad experience with bird nests in the past with straight through FC in the first few casts, I decided not to use it anymore. Seems like as you mentioned in the vid, it will need 1-2 outings to get used to and let the line take the shape of the spool, I might give it a go again. As for me, 4lb straight through and 4-10lb on the leaders would be good.
awesome dude! 100% it happens, its all good. go for the underspool!
Well done on the content learning a lot about light gear fishing
I would love to try some straight though for bream and light fishing
Cool dude! Get your entry in and you’ll have a chance Warren!!
Great video and information as always. Would be keen to try other brands of leader. I’ve been using black magic for a long time, so far has not let me down. Maybe I should give something else a go. Don’t know what you are missing if you don’t try right?
yeah man 100%, I'd totally try different brands and totally have. I was using some of the heavier black magic over in NZ for a few days. 16lb I think it was, seemed to do the job ok :)
Interesting topic, I’ve never considered straight through flouro but will give it a go if I can find it.
If fortunate enough for a giveaway, would love to try the Jbraid in 4lb and 6lb
And 3,4 and 6 for the Harris Leader
Thanks for all the content
My pleasure!!
Another awesome informative video👍- if I were lucky enough to win I would prefer a packet each of 4lb and 6lb leader and for straight through - 6lb - I always learn something from your video’s, my absolute favourite is the one about how to fish in a kayak tournament - keep up the great content 👍👊
In! thanks Chris, glad you enjoyed it buddy!
Fantastic and informative, I like straight through f.c.
I was going to switch back to mono, but your suggestion makes a lot of sense.
Thanks for your research and testing. All the best from Gippsland.
Straight thru 3lb fluoro has increased my numbers on the flats by heaps.... I've got 5lb of the daiwa stuff for my crabs/structure cranking.
Great vid as always mate, if I win I'd love some 3lb and 5lb straight thru and the rest in 4lb yamatoyo chinu Harris leader 👌🏽 I've been using that leader for a few seasons now and definitely won't go back to the brittle fc rock in the light stuff 🤙🏽
yeww! hey Johnathon. Yeah much better product imo dude. straight thru 3lb is bloody good on those tough bite days!
Been toying with straight through FC or ages. Great to get advice that will help get the best experience that will help let me know if it’s for me or not. Have a heap of 50m spools of FC, so spinning FC for me.
copy all buddy! entered legend
All love watching your CZcams channel. I'm learning a lot on fishing 🎣. Cos i just started fishing. Last year Dec. That's why must of the time I'm only buying that is on special. Good luck to all on the give away ☺️
Glad you enjoy the content Raymund. Cheers buddy!!!
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Thank you for always giving us tips. Thanks mate
I would opt for the 5 rolls of FC Leader, 2 rolls of 8lb, 2 rolls of 6lb, and 1 roll of 4lb, cheers Byron. 👍👌
Great informative vid as always Byron. I actually tried 4lb straight through FC on one of my smaller reels a few months back. I didn't mind it, though a very different feel to braid and FC leader and took some getting used to. Keen to rig up some more straight through on other reels so I’d be keen on 2 x 4lb and 1 x 6lb in the Sunline FC2, then maybe 1 x 4lb and 1 x 6lb in the Harris FB leader. Sweet - thank you!
Thanks Byron. I've been looking at straight through leader for a while. But haven't found any great information or advice on this. Great video as always. I'll be looking at getting some for the last Yak Hunters round this weekend coming. Bream at Ansons Bay.
Pretty good info thanks mate. I would definitely love to try the j finesse in 3lb and 4lb and the Harris fighter in 3,4 and 6lb
Good luck!
Straight FC is definitely more expensive to spool....works best on light gear, so much fun and fish all day. What will cost you the most is knot failures, so check ur knots and line abrasions, cut & retie if neeed...lets go😁
Another ripper Byron. I am still in the braid with fc stage looking to expand to the straight through. Would be awesome to gain a couple of good quality 4lb and 6lb and a single 10lb for the bay.
nice!!!!
Hi Byron, I am getting into the lighter style of estury fishing I am always having trouble snapping my Braid-FC at the knot when casting. The knot always gets caught up in the eylets and is usually snapped by the 5th cast.
I have tried double blood and F knot.
Note: It is not the knot that is failing, failure happens just after the knot in the fluro
Interesting stuff. Not sure I'm quite brave enough for 3lb and 4lb main line just yet, so I'll stick with the 6lb braid! I'd go for leader fc, with a couple each of 4lb and 6lb and an 8lb for chasing flatties.
Hahaha, entered Grant!
No way! I just told my friends about the Daiwa J Thread finesse fc earlier on the same day!
I’ve been using 4lb straight through Sunline Shooter Invisible for bream when kayaking around structures. Great high quality line. I have recently tried the Varivas Ajing Master Blue Moon fc straight through 2.5lb for catching small tailor, whiting but I did catch a 40cm flathead and 37cm trevally with this 2.5lb FC lucky me😄. I do agree that straight through fc not so ideal when fishing plastics as it’s harder to set the hook properly. In terms of choice of good fc leader, Sunline FC Rock probably is the ‘go to’ one when I don’t see the need of being too specific. Gosen JUDE has to be my no.1 choice of quality fc leader , anything from 4lb to 20lb . Tight lines!
Thanks Andy. Really appreciate you sharing your thoughts!
id use 6-8lb leader on my braid, need a quality FC as i have been a mono guy forever and only been enlightened since watching your channel
Hey mate thanks for sharing.. is there a vid on the quickest / easiest way to tie an fg knot.!?
Mix bag 3,4,6,8,10 👌
Nice!
I'm always a braid and leader type of guy, not very keen on full fluro. Plus, I like matching my braid to the colour of my rod/reel to make em pop ahaha
hahahaha, I love this! legend
Just looked at my fishing DVD collection and daiwa called it next level super sick DVD Greg bit cool but mica Adams on the flats is sick and Andrew boudolavich walking the flatts think I spell it right sorry Andrew if I didnt yur a south Coast legend go the estry perch
Yeah Josh that next level series is awesome!!!
Gday mate great vid once again what is your preferred brand of braid? I use j braid and was looking at other options to put on my next reel. Thanks
Goosen 12/14lb but its not economical. its bloody dear - basically where all my youtube ad revenue goes.
I tried to put straight through fluro on my 2500 reel but it just felt like it would not hold the reel shape like braid does it hugs the reel. Whereas the fluro feels like its trying to escape off the reel haha.
100%, typically happens for the first session or two. You may be spooled a little loose????
Thanks, very informative with none of the BS. I am going to give spooling up with Fluor a try.
What is your recommendation for surface lures?
Braid and Fluor for top water 6-8lb
There are the odd bargains to be had in the discount bin, but you need to be like an Ibis going thru a rubbish bin to find them :-)
100% bin chicken required
Mmm, tried straight through before but struggled with the loss of sensitivity. Went back to leader and braid. 4 lbs leader and 3 and 4 lbs line
Nice!
Currently run Sunline FC Rock leader and FC Sniper straight through. If I got a look in Sunline Small Game in 3lb and 4lb and Chinu Harris in 4lb, 6lb and 8lb. Cheers
no worries! entered Luke :D