FISHING LINE...I Wish I Knew THIS Sooner
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- čas přidán 28. 12. 2023
- The fishing line that we use its literally the direct connection between us and the fish. So lets make sure we know all the nuances about fishing line!
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There are a lot of different fishing lines out there on the market. However, there are are few things that I wish I had known sooner in life that have really helped me to become a better fisherman.
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I don’t typically leave comments but I wanted to say thank you for the wealth of knowledge that you share on this channel. I’ve watched hours of your videos over the last month and it has changed my fishing game. Lines and knots were both weak spots in my fundamentals but not anymore (no pun intended). I tried the lower carrier braid on my spinning combo and it significantly improved the castability. I also noticed the smaller loop as the line leaves the spool. 8-carrier braid or higher works well for baitcasting reels but 6-carrier or lower works better for me on spinning reels. I really appreciate your unbiased approaches to the knot and line strength videos. For anyone that found this video helpful, you really should check out those videos as well. Thanks Tyler and continue producing the great content!
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I agree 100% with all you say
I use Only Power Pro braid in 10lb for some spinning applications and 30 or 45lb on my 8 of my dozen bait casting set ups
Tried other 8 starnd braided but had the problems you described
What simply amazes me is just how much farther I can cast 4 strand Power Pro vs and mono or fluorocarbon especially into a strong head wind
Once I mastered the simpler braid to fluorocarbon or mono line knots it using braided line made a big difference in my fishing ESPECIALLY fishing frogs and soft plastics in super heavy cover. My loosing fish in heavy cover went down over 95% after going to Power Pro braided line and I do a butt ton of fishing in heavy cover
By the way
You are unquestionably are among the three best how-to fishing channels on YT
I also learned reeling the braid from the top of your spool using a holder or pencil is really effective, theres an actual science to it its something to do with the way that it rotates off your spool it wont come off all curly and youll have superior castability, probably gained 2-3 feet of casting on UL with that trick which is alot for lighter lures.
I run braid to leader on everything except cranking. Suffix 832 8lb test on spinning rods and bfs. Never had a wind knot with it. But I think it is because I keep tension on the before bait hits the water, just like a bait caster. 30lb 832 for bait casting jigs, Texas rigs, etc. 4 carrier 50lb or 65lb for frogging to cut the pads. 65lb 8 carrier for punching.
I really like Suffix 832 braid. Years ago I tried to use Berkley Fireline. The crystal snapped easily after being exposed to cold weather.
Suffix 832 in 10# & 15# to 8-10# leader for my spinning setups
Same here. Suffix 832 on my bait casters and med light spinning. I have #4 suffix nanobraid to be delivered in a couple days to try on my ultralight spinning
Excellent break down on the lines. Thank you Tyler.
I agree. I fish a weightless trick worm quite a bit on a spinning rod. I went through several brands of braided line and got very frustrated with wind knots. I finally went back to my old favorite, regular Power Pro 10 lb test and eliminated the wind knot issue plus it casts great.
Them braided wind knots suuuuuck
After a lot of experimenting, braid to flouro is still the most effective for both spinning and casting setups for me. I use 10# braid to 20’ of 6-8# flouro on spinning gear and 20-30# braid to 6’ of 8-15# flouro on casting gear. Primarily fishing for Smallmouth in clear water. I haven’t found any benefit to using straight flouro on anything, just more expensive and more problems. I use the FG knot exclusively.
Knots should be checked weekly. Takes at least 3-4h and a six pac. My wife is used to this routine, be free to copy. No trademarks. Tight lines.
As always, appreciate your videos. No matter what part of the country we fish in, these types of videos are very relevant. Thanks!
You are dead on correct man 🙌! I noticed the same thing on my finesse setup. I switched from 15lb spiderweb to an 8 strand braid 15lb. It sucked didn't cast as far and kept getting wind loops way more. Casting distance was worse noticeably.
My issue with 4 carrier braid is how easily the weave unravels.
I agree. I went back to original Power Pro on my spinning gear.
I exclusively use Goat Rope from Bruiser Baits for a few years. 12 strand/carrier braid. Its awesome, so smooth and rarely have i ever gotten a wind knot. For pitching in Florida I use 40lb. I've NEVER broken it. If i get hung I just drag the boat to it with the rod! No BS
You reminded me about line buoyancy... Its easy to take the industry conceptions at face value. I got curious once to see if fluorocarbon sinks like everyone said it did. Now theres a lot of variables, but most of the segments of line I checked actually floated. Tossed them in the water, floated. I figured that was just due to surface tension, so i forced them down under the water, just to watch them gradually make their way back to the surface. Again, lots of variables, but its good to verify things that are taken as truths.
Another great video and tutorial Ty. Made the switch to 4 carrier braided line and it's night and day on the spinning combos. Launching casts further with less wind knots and still getting the fish fighting performance to land them. Blessings in 2024 brother
Great perspective about different line sizes and types.
It all makes great sense to me. Well explained. One line that gets overlooked way too much is copolymer. It's a great line for budget-conscious weekend warriors. It's thinner than mono and has less stretch also. I use straight copolymer on many of my ultra-light reels.
Agreed
I’ve gone to copoly for a lot of my fishing. Less stretch than mono, not as fast sinking as fluoro. Especially enjoying it for my swimbaiting.
@@SasquatchTX I like it too , I like the Hi seas camo and the twik fish I think it’s called , very strong and does not fray
Pline cxx in clear color is 💰
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somewhere in the 80's early nineties fishing info was mostly through reading fishing magazines & copolymer/monofilament was what everyone used. I still remember reading an article which discussed how the more limp the line the better for bait casters to help negate birds nests but some spring in the line was better for spinning reels to help the line pop over the lip of thespool (less friction) to increase distance, of course there are plenty of other factors that have been mentioned as well.
Thanks for your input on fishing line. That's good to know.
Thats a really good point about casting distance with the higher carrier lines. Makes sense.
In my opinion the power pro is best in the braid
Couldn’t agree more about low vs high carrier braids in low lb test. Started with 8-strand, switched to Power Pro and everything seemed easier. Knots were easier too.
I 100% agree with you on light line braid on spinning rails. I consider myself spending real fanatic, as I own about 20 combos and I fish just about every finesse application going chasing big small mouth in the Northeast. I've tried all of the different manufacturers and brake counts and I keep coming back to 8 lb power pro as the most manageable and the longest casting braid for spinning reels. It's easier to manage. It's easier to tie knots. It's easier to cast and it's way more durable than light line, eight carrier braids and the same pound test. I also agree that as you go up in pound test, that the higher number carrier braids are easier to cash and actually more manageable on a spinning reel. I have a bunch of spinning reels that I throw heavier applications on loaded with 15 and 20 lb test braid in the eight carrier variety and they all cast way better and manage way easier on a spinning reel. So even though you don't have data to back up your claim, I can concur with your experience as my experience. And I've tried just about everything you could put on a spinning reel from 6 lb test all the way up to 30 lb test. Good video, thanks for posting and look forward to future content.
Great tips thank you happy new years
I like high carrier braid. But ill hsve to try a low carrier on my spinning reel. But I prefer the flexibility of the high carrier line.
I have heard a lot of people using braid on cranking type baits. I get hesitant from using it bc i feel like it just wears on my guys especially the tip, etc, much more. Also ive learned over the years that you should use a lighter action rod if you use straight braid. Seems like setting the hook hard with braid on the normal action rods i would use with straight fluoro that I pop a lot more eyes off.
Now i typically lean away from all braid and strictly use fluoro unless I am flipping grass/heavy cover.
I have noticed the wind knot issue with 8-10 lb test 8 carrier braid (no issues with 12 lb and above) and it is quite frustrating. I will try the 4 carrier as an alternative with my 8 & 10 lb test setups. Appreciate the info!
That Spro line has been unobtanium ever since you did the flourocarbon line comparison! Where are you finding it? (Better PM that reply, lol!)
I really didn't know it would have the impact it did. I was fortunate that SPRO saw the video and sent me a bunch of line shortly after making it...but now even SPRO doesn't have any. I believe they are manufacturing more though
I was able to buy SPRO Guokren Fluro from Tackle Warehouse in September. Still havent used it but will for 2024.
Just timing I suppose. I have yet to find it in stock anywhere since that Ty's video hit. @@pequenioedgarito3067
Yup. I keep checking
Got mine off of all places Amazon as TWH was never in stock
Just a heads up
Beware of scam WS's selling Spro fluorocarbon when I was searching for it on line found several no name tackle WS's selling it a good price but I check all WS I'm unfamiliar with before I buy and everyone came up a scam WS
Only places I know of had it I trust were TWH and Amazon
Sure there are other lagit sources selling it but those were the only two I found
Great video. I never understood why line companies went past 4-8 carriers. I prefer 4 carrier for everything except for swim jigging then I’ll use 8 because it’s quieter like you said. …. Spro makes a great fluoro and braid. I was fortunate to find some and it’s a great all around line. I’m mixing it in slowly as my fluoro and braid since is hard to get.
Yup never knew about that
I have had a ton of issues with wind knots on my spinning rod. I'll try a lower carrier braid next time and see if it helps.
Well done. It was an enjoyable and informative video.
That's probably what's going on with my wind knots 😂 I use 8 strand 10-30 lb braid on my spinning reels and on windy days I will get knots. I never thought about stepping down to 4 strand braided lines. That's what I use for frogging, flipping, pitching, and punching.
Here in the PNW I run 30lb spider wire stealth in moss green. I add a bunper of p-line 20lb cfx fluorocarbon. I like to use heavy pitching jigs or arkie jigs with a a chunk craw trailer or a crankbait. Sometimes we use the 3 arm Alabama rigs. Finesse dropshot. Gotta love the smallies out this way
I should mention that I run that on my new Abu black Max baitcaster, lamiglas xp bass setup
Suffix 832 15 from bass to off shore w spinning gear long cast about 5’ leader mono about the length of the rod w fish on power pro is my go to also
Cast braid is easily the best for me
I have used the suffix braid line brand forever and had no major problems, that line is solid. I used the power pro multiple times years ago and it snapped on the way out of my rod or it would rip easily..
Definitely not fan of power pro
I have been using Power Pro braid and a fluorocarbon leader on my spinning tackle for a few years now. I have found using 30 Lb. braid leads to less wind knots and still provides for long casts. I started out using 10 Lb. but was getting too many wind knots and with that super thin braid those knots were almost impossible to get out.
On the subject of braid the fishing industry needs to come out with more 70-80 size baitcasters. Don't need a big heavy high capacity spool when fishing 20-30lb braid
Great tip i didnt know u had 2b so quiet fishing.
Good info. I'm usually a standard power pro user in 10-15 lb on many of my spinning set ups. I was considering the high carrier stuff. I hadn't thought of the points you made about manageability. My main consideration was hoe such a smooth line might react to the leader knot. Weaker? Stronger? no difference?
Are you saying 4 carrier in higher lb. Tests makes more noise cutting through the water or going through the guides? Ive often thought that sound is transmitted through the line similar to a guitar strings sustain. If you play guitar, it makes perfect sense.
Thank you so much for explaining the topics of your videos like you do. It has made me a better fisherman!
Thanks for watching! I appreciate it
Gd stuff boss! Thanks for the hard work
What about coated braid. That has like the waxy coating on the outside? I found some thats super smooth and super quiet yet still strong and casts a mile. Just curious if youve used any?
I use spiderwick stealth braid fuse with fluorocarbon for my baitcast, smooth, long cast, extremly durable. You must try. For my spinning I use the best line in the world : berkley Nanofil.
This year, I have been usonf the PowerPro SuperSlick V2 Microfilament 10 lb braid. And it is nothing but the BEST OF THE BEST of all the braids out there. Castability: 5 star. Performance: 5 star. Durability: 5 star
Sensativity: 5 star
Both on spinning reel and baitcaster. It is the SMOOTHEST casting on earth.
Thank you Tyler for this video
I tried it this year on my ultralight setup (6lb braid to 4lb fluoro) and my FG knot breaks on it whereas my J8 (10lb to 6-8lb fluoro) breaks on the leader.
I love everything else about this line but it’s either too slick for the knot, wrong combination of size main and leader or I need a different knot for the small size line. Any advice?
@@mike2687 have you tried a standard , double uni - knot? That is the knot I use and never had any problems. Consider also the number of wraps for each side of the knot. Dont overover do it either where the union is like stiff. Consider how thin the like is as well. Double uni knot may take 5 to 6 wraps and when you cinch each side, gently and rvenly apply pressure at at pull. Best of luck. And tight lines.
@@pequenioedgarito3067 - thanks-the uni-to-uni was my original choice and didn’t like it from hand testing it but will go back to the basics and pay more attention to the wraps regardless of the knot! Thanks!!!
I totally agree! I tried Slick 8 on my BFS setups, nothing but troubles. Went back to 4 strand, way better.
I tried the Slick 8 on my ultralight setup but couldn’t get a good bite on my FG leader knot…. wonder if going to the 4 strand will help that.
Just got my first BFS set up in the mail the other day…. what 4 strand did you go with? Thanks!
Good video. Any advice on spooling line? I’m having a lot of line twist on my spinning reels. I’ve tried the counter clock, spooling devices. Nothing works.
Dead on with casting distance. I’ve tried it all. I use original power pro exclusively.
Once I used the Power Pro Maxcuatro, I’ve not been able to use any other braid. Very expensive but it’s still my favorite.
Nice video.... I use vision fluorocarbon 20lb... Bank fishing.... Anything lower breaks too easy. Even on spinning gear....this is the best i have used..i understand high to low end line...i went to suffix.. Noticed it breaks to much.. I going back to power pro yellow love this brand.. Thanks for this video
For me 4 strand braid seems to hold a little better with FG knots. I have had more slipping issues with 8 strand.
I had braid line come apart just above the knot. It was a 8 stran line. I made sure I wet the line really good before I tighten the knot
30lb braid is my sweet spot line,very strong and decent casting. I use 50lb also for short cast,but I could tie up the boat with it if needed😂
Salt Strong did a casting test between four carrier and eight carrier braid. The four strand braid consistently outcasted the eight strand braid .
I just got a lews mach 2 baitcaster reel and rod. 7 foot. So what's a good line for it. Plz and thank you
Great video. I got a question for you what is a good all around spinner bait that you would recommend and trailer thanks in advance
I have used most of the braided line made. Started with spiderwire. I now prefer power pro the most
Thanks for the additional info-good to know-but ah garsh the issues with lines never seem to get settled. I haven’t yet figured out what works best for each situation. Lots of variables my friend.
When using a smaller braid like 10lb, a spinning reel... which is only a 2lb diameter equivalent... of course, you'll get more wind knots... just use 20 lb braids, which can be a 6-8 lb equivalent. It will also synch/tie up better to your leader because you're using the same diameter lines. I have used 10, 15, and 20 lb Braid in 4 and 8 strand braids... there is literally no casting distance difference between 10 and 20 lb on 8 strand. There is a difference in casting distance difference between 10 and 20 lb on 4 strand, however. When using an 8 strand braid, dont buy any that is super soft for 3 reasons... wind knots, knots fraying easily, and tensile strength. Yes, there are 8 strand braids out there that feel like a 4 strand and still cast amazing with no to little wind knots... mostly coming from JDM brands like Sunline and Daiwa.
I’m the first to admit that I’m cheap. I use a Diawa Revo 3000 reel on a Diawa rod. I buy 15 pound 8 braid Reaction Tackle line. When I paired that up together I was shocked how far a could cast a 110 Choppo. That is the smoothest casting line and reel I have ever seen. I use it for top water and on short cast it’s accurate.
Reaction tackle line is the sh!t (as is most of their products). Fish don’t know how much you paid for braid.
Nothing wrong with a Revros. I have several. Can’t beat what you get for the price with that reel.
I have a quetion ig been fishing my lake thats close and been notecing the the baitr has gone down and i was thinking to ask you for help what i think has happend is that ive been notecing a big popuñation of ducks and if caunted them and the total nuber is 300 i don't know if it afects the bass fishing or i just suck at fishing so i wuld apretiated.if you can explain or make a video on lakes that have lots of ducks
I only use power pro braid 10-50lbs test on both spinning and casting ive tried a few other brands and just didnt like it all around compaaired to power pro
I have a high count braid that I put on a spinning reel. I get wind knots on it all the time. I keep telling myself that I going to switch it to flora.
I think a good video would be to show the four most common knots that you use. Especially the knot you use when going braid to leader. I tend to have a lot of break offs due to my leader bumping through my guides.
I have one of those on the channel
Power pro is my all time favorite. The red is a must have in my area.
Power Pro green is my go to line! Kayak fishing 5 or 6 days a week here in Ontario, Canada. 6 to 20 lb fluorocarbon leaders using an Albright knot .
I use 30 lbs Powerpro V2....no issues...I just bought my 2nd 1500 yd. roll. On the spinning reel...20 lbs .....
It's a preference for me but I only use braid
Unless I buy a reel from someone that already has line
Don't wanna waste it if it's newer
Super interesting theory regarding the 4 strand braids with spinning rods. I fish a lot of 8-12lb braid on spinning rods for river / creek smallies. I always use an 8 strand carrier. Now I’m gonna have to put this to the test in 24. Hoping to meet you in Colombus in 24 for the annual show. Happy holidays
Definitely experienced this a few years ago and fish exclusively with 4 carrier braided line. Good luck chasing smallies. We even jig fish with it now.
@@brianathern9154 thanks for the input. I just despoiled 2/4 spinning reels with 8 carrier braid like 3 days b4 I saw this. Just getting off the river now. 9 smallies in 2 hours. Water temps were 38-39. Hope your still fishing 🎣 and catching 👊🏼
Cast Fishing Co. Has their braid and it is 12 strand and Teflon coated so it doesn't absorb water... it is the best thing on the market. You can cast this stuff an absolute mile! Even have a 12lb great for finesse spinning rod applications
Do you ever fish BFS with 10 lb 8 carrier and 4 carrier braid to have a opinion on which you like better? I’ll gladly take opinions from anyone who reads this and has experience with BFS. I’d love to see you test out Mono and Copoly lines like you did with flouros. A head to head battle between the best flouro and best Copoly would also be something to see. My money is on the Copoly as the winner.
A wet braided line making big loops will slap my rod silly. 😂
Jerry Brown makes the best braided fishing line!
Fluorocarbon lines, depends on the raw ingredients... A thru E grade pellets.. the "best " only use A grade Mitsubishi or other Japanese raw ingredients...then there's the manufacturer & answer standards, steamers, tensioning, baths, etc,etc.....
That Yo-Zuri fluorocarbon nylon hybrid line is pretty good and cheap. Made is Japan
Great video
Good morning in your honest opinion what is the best spinnerbait on the market today
Guy working at bass pro came up to us and said use power pro, don't bother with the others. Best fishing advice I've ever gotten
That's just nonsense... retail workers get kickback "spiffs"alot of times from product reps or higher management which have been told to push a certain product..mostly based on product margins....or them getting some kickback/ $$ / product / or other "benefits "😮
@@ncsojourner200 the old dude looked like he was just working for fun, I had to help him pick up stuff from the floor. They didn't even ask who helped me at the cashier
@AsianVideoGamer glad you got a genuine helper...catch em' up !
My gawd… I feel foolish now with the lines I have been using for decades!!😮 Thanks for your tips!
Boy done got him a lkon! Congrats
Hey Tyler...I'd like to support you & make a purchase however, you don't to Canada. I'm heading to Florida in 10 days so can I delay the shipping date and get the order shipped to the condo I've rented??
4 carrier cast further, power pro tries to market the newer 8 carrier braids as casting further but its false! Higher carrier equals a higher friction on guides!
It airloops! Suffix!!
I love the FG but theres always that rare chance that it will just come undone on you if you wear it out enough. Once those half hitches give out, your screwed, luckily Ive never lost a fish that way but i have casted lures off before, makes me feel like a newbie 😂
Any tips on avoiding wind knots?
Do some casting contests! Put some numbers to the opinions
True Fluorocarbon has a higher specific gravity (more dense) than mono or coploymer
High carrier /low carrier braid ????... very interesting, but you had me at "Power Pro". There are WAYYY too many fishing knots. It's very confusing for the weekend warrior. The one "do it all knot" is the "improved clinch knot". Yes, even with braid and other slippery lines. The trick is MORE WRAPS. If you wrap ANY slippery line ELEVEN times and lock it , the knot will never come undone. You only need two knots, a good loop knot and the IMPROVED CLINCH KNOT. PS...Nice shirts.
My biggest issue is getting the knot caught in the guides. I use an FG knot.
Just use Japanese JDM braid such as kureha or varivas and good night😂
Yo-Zuri hybrid fluorocarbon nylon hybrid line. Good and cheap.
Im usually with you on most things. We are exactly opposite on this one.
And that’s 100% fine. Like I said when it comes to braid a lot of people do it different. As long as it works for them that’s all that matters. Thanks for watching
Same-my J8 has seen one wind knot since it’s been spooled on and that was when my 7 year old was using it…. User error.
But I do use 4 strand power pro when fishing lillies…. Cuts right through it!
Someone get this man some varivas double cross 8x braid you won’t be complaining about wind knots or casting distance
I personally think a lot of it is overrated. I've used a lot of lines out there and I have always found myself going back to copolymer line (specifically izorline and Trilene sensation) I just feel like it checks all the boxes, it's not the best at anything but good at everything. I have copolymer on all my set ups now except for those with braid. For braid, I prefer the lower count braids, they just seem to work better, and I have noticed, they don't dig in on themselves nearly as much. Cool video man.
Tights good
Throwing 20 pound Fitzgerald braid on everything . Drop shot straight braid big hook no leader no problems even in clear water get just as many bites they are not looking at the line. All smallmouth stuff straight braid super clear water. My smallmouth guide uses straight braid too even on cranking no problems hammering big ones. The only thing I use clear line on is my cranking stuff. Fish alot of clear water and stained stuff here in Virginia that's my take go braid or go home. Late.
Did you buy an iKon?!
Suffix 882 for me in lime green
832?
@@christopherascherl2411 you are correct
Can u get more hats in please, thanks
First I've heard of using carrier to describe instead of strand. Throwing me for a loop as I associate that with name brand