What we can take away from the Paul Davids Hendrix Stratocaster debacle.

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  • čas přidán 7. 02. 2022
  • Baxter and Jonathan discuss the tricky and world of authenticating famous vintage guitars, and what we can learn from Paul Davids video.
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Komentáře • 284

  • @rodanone4895
    @rodanone4895 Před 2 lety +42

    my father started playing at 72... he's actually getting pretty good. and it's causing him to discover new/old music as well.
    he loves your show too! thanks guys.

  • @erickmo1188
    @erickmo1188 Před 2 lety +46

    I have to say that for me, I wouldn’t want to own a guitar like the “Hendrix” strat. I’d be afraid to play it, I’d be afraid to display it, and I’d be afraid to have anyone know I had it. To me, the magic and mojo is not in the thing. It’s in the music that Jimi left us with that will forever inspire new generations of guitar players to pick up their instrument and push the boundaries. He was such a gift to the world and was taken way too soon. But I think the ‘real’ guitar should be displayed like Claptons blackie. Not owned and stuffed under a some millionaires bed. I’ve seen blackie. I looked at all the marks and scratches for about 30 seconds. And then moved on, grabbed a custom shop strat off the wall and played my own written music, that was inspired by EC.

    • @justiceforall6412
      @justiceforall6412 Před 2 lety +5

      Very very well said! The magic is the musician, not the instrument.

    • @gunkanjima3408
      @gunkanjima3408 Před 2 lety +1

      It’s going to be sold to a rich person to a collection, where it won’t be played. Might as well go to the Hall of Fame instead

    • @benink5690
      @benink5690 Před 2 lety +1

      If I had billions I'd buy it. Play it at a show & then f@cking burn it

    • @lucasoheyze4597
      @lucasoheyze4597 Před 2 lety +4

      Very true...say Hendrix had taken one more step and picked up the next guitar on the rack, that one would become THE Hendrix Strat instead.

    • @erickmo1188
      @erickmo1188 Před 2 lety +2

      @@lucasoheyze4597 yessir. And going even further into the vintage market… many players hunt for the vintage stuff because of inspiration from the greats from the 60’s and 70’s. The funny thing is that those guitars were pretty new when they used them to record our favorite stuff. That’s why I go for the vintage inspired new stuff… vintage vibe and style (and typically very close to vintage tone) and all the playability and reliability of new gear. David Gilmour sounds just as great on his fender custom shop reissue of his black strat.

  • @jon-nolanacousticsingerson9920

    Gentlemen: please don't take this the wrong but may I made a suggestion. I did not follow the Paul Davids Hendrix mess, so I am at a bit of a loss. I am sure other may be as well. In your video, if it was me, I would have explained what exactly happened in the debacle. Then, go into your presentation.

    • @anthonyc1883
      @anthonyc1883 Před 2 lety +16

      Agreed. Even if the situation is well-known, a 60-second intro to it couldn't hurt.

    • @The-11
      @The-11 Před 2 lety +20

      2nd this, I have no idea what they were talking about...

    • @Frosenborg
      @Frosenborg Před 2 lety +9

      Agreed! I'd no idea what this was about and thought they'd go over the story before taking over the conversation. Googled the story to understand the context of the video.

    • @RByrne
      @RByrne Před 2 lety +8

      Yeah, and much of the relevant videos are deleted so It takes a good bit of searching to work out what happened.

    • @w13rdguy
      @w13rdguy Před 2 lety +5

      Ditto, Roger THAT! ☘️😄

  • @jeffhershberger
    @jeffhershberger Před 2 lety +7

    My .02..FWIW... I love Paul Davids and I think he was taken advantage of because of his good nature and the size of his channel to get his buy off on the guitar. There are other channels with large followings as well, but they only invited him. That just confirms it for me. God bless him though, I think he just got caught up in the moment.

  • @davidcotton6999
    @davidcotton6999 Před 2 lety

    Love your CZcams channel, I can watch you guys chatting all evening, you are actually way better than 90% of pro TV presenters. You are so natural and funny, and genuine. Keep it coming guys!

  • @andytylerbell
    @andytylerbell Před 2 lety +18

    Learned Mike Campbell composed Boys of Summer yesterday. What a legend.

    • @chancemiller9340
      @chancemiller9340 Před 2 lety

      The melody…
      …in a different key.

    • @johncollins5552
      @johncollins5552 Před rokem

      Saw him on the last Petty tour and he stole the show with some awesome solos!

  • @christophereadgbe2976
    @christophereadgbe2976 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for handling this with class. Paul Davids is a great teacher and brings tens of thousands of people into music.

  • @seanbrooks2583
    @seanbrooks2583 Před 2 lety +28

    Its not Hendrix's strat. They company that owns it refuses to actually show any evidence. They wouldnt sue if it was real.

    • @happyads9439
      @happyads9439 Před 2 lety +4

      Yes they are quite aggressive, and going in for the hard sale,, and that doesn't work in 'guitarland'
      If they had proof it would be their pleasure providing the details of authenticity, because it aids the sale🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @400_billion_suns
      @400_billion_suns Před 2 lety +5

      They have provided their claimed “neck grain match” image to a few of us, but it hasn’t helped their case. The image they used of the original guitar was a very low quality version, which is so grainy and pixelated that I’m shocked anyone found it conclusive. The same image of Jimi they used as a comparison is available in *much* higher quality, and comparing the grain of the purported guitar to this image, it does not look like a match at all, to me. The real guitar had straight grain down the back of the entire headstock, which the purported guitar doesn’t match.

  • @drivenmad7676
    @drivenmad7676 Před 2 lety +3

    I love guitar's. Your show is great, guitars and a good laugh. You guys bring me joy. Some day I'll buy a guitar from you.

  • @drdre4397
    @drdre4397 Před 2 lety +1

    You two are awesome! First video I've seen but such genuine delivery, feels way less business and more like a CZcams channel. I always like the less scripted feeling guitar channels. Paul is awesome though! Taught me a lot early on.

  • @jfrankcarr
    @jfrankcarr Před 2 lety +75

    Like "fine art", vintage guitars seem to be a good way to launder money and/or avoid taxes.

    • @cutez0r
      @cutez0r Před 2 lety +7

      Fine art, vintage wines, gambling, real estate through shell companies, NFTs, etc. The worst part is that almost nobody monitors these markets and thanks to social media influencers, there are a lot of suckers out there willing to throw away their money.

    • @bensch8604
      @bensch8604 Před 2 lety +5

      I bought a gibson with pot money in my 20's.

    • @silverfr3ak
      @silverfr3ak Před 2 lety +3

      Hopefully!

    • @benink5690
      @benink5690 Před 2 lety

      If I could get away with ripping off a millionaire I would lol. That's my thought process until I find a job haha. Had a serious injury last November and have been on the hunt for work from home. No luck. So yeah I'm ready to rob if I had to

    • @MaxPower-js1sk
      @MaxPower-js1sk Před 2 lety +1

      @@benink5690 What’s wrong with people being millionaires? That’s a serious question. I’m interested in what you say.

  • @scottkidwellmusic9175
    @scottkidwellmusic9175 Před 2 lety

    Thanks, y'all 🙏
    A good way to wake up ...
    Glad I don't deal much in vintage guitars, even being vintage myself.
    Be good to you!

  • @justiceforall6412
    @justiceforall6412 Před 2 lety +4

    I used to just watch you guys every so often to see the guy who doesn't use a comb when he gets up, but I have to say with time I found this to be a pretty good little channel. I do enjoy your vids. It's like conversations between myself and other players. Also you guys do vids on helpful things like warning people of frauds, etc. Thanks for putting out the concept.

    • @rodrossi9749
      @rodrossi9749 Před 2 lety

      Easily one of the worst looks on CZcams. Taking "BAD HAIR DAY" to the next level......lol

    • @justiceforall6412
      @justiceforall6412 Před 2 lety

      @@rodrossi9749 LOL, yeah it's obviously done on purpose, but it looks funny as hell. That said, I like their channel pretty good.

    • @rodrossi9749
      @rodrossi9749 Před 2 lety +1

      @@justiceforall6412 .... yep.....they are knowledgeable and entertaining......good combination.

    • @justiceforall6412
      @justiceforall6412 Před 2 lety +1

      @@rodrossi9749 I quite agree

  • @lyleanderson5407
    @lyleanderson5407 Před 2 lety +17

    It's funny how most famous players back in the day just wanted a road worthy guitar. They really didn't think about the value since it was just a tool for their craft or profession.

    • @216trixie
      @216trixie Před 2 lety +1

      I'm the same.

    • @400_billion_suns
      @400_billion_suns Před 2 lety +2

      Especially Jimi, who would play guitar for a few months til it was beat up, then sacrifice it and move on to another one. Just like he did with the real Monterey strat, which was very likely the black strat he burned and smashed at the Ambassador Theatre in Aug ‘67, with the same red leather strap it wore in every picture prior… ;)

    • @wildersparks9161
      @wildersparks9161 Před 2 lety +3

      Before they nailed Jesus to a cross, it was just a regular cross.

    • @bassyey
      @bassyey Před 2 lety

      You instantly know who focuses on their playing or their gear on youtube comments.

    • @subzero308
      @subzero308 Před 2 lety

      I'm the same way I don't care how much my guitars r... I have a few custom shops love them all and they r all going to my son when he grows up and im no longer here... I love a good vintage lookin guitar... CS reliced guitars aren't my main thing but hell if the guitar plays and feels amazing then I'm buying... sadly I'm lefty so its impossible to find guitars at all in shops let alone a CS.

  • @lassej.nordvik163
    @lassej.nordvik163 Před 2 lety +2

    Fantastic video! You guys are amazing!😀👍🎸

  • @charlesbranch4120
    @charlesbranch4120 Před 2 lety +5

    "Bull Durham" is the absolute best baseball movie. Kevin Costner's talking about the casting and the casting partnership that resulted is fun to watch and listen to as well. Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins got married. Crash's soliloquies are great!

  • @j.k.4584
    @j.k.4584 Před 2 lety +2

    Always good to lern something.

  • @alkoenig85
    @alkoenig85 Před 2 lety

    Great discussion guys. Thanks. I don't own any real treasures other than the guitars that have aged well over the past fifty to sixty years. Wow there may be a couple of goodies...at least I don't have to buy guitars I already own. Best to the both of you.

  • @DavidHBurkart
    @DavidHBurkart Před 2 lety

    Great discussion J & B!!

  • @MongoHongos
    @MongoHongos Před rokem +2

    Paul Davids is the Bob Ross of CZcams guitar. He's just a comforting presence.

    • @Podcastforthewin
      @Podcastforthewin Před rokem +1

      I actually just watched a couple videos of his, but i have to say, something about him seems fake. I cant put my finger on it, but something about the guy just doesn’t sit right with me.

    • @Podcastforthewin
      @Podcastforthewin Před rokem

      @@adriancadena2887 insincere, maybe.

  • @Charles75N
    @Charles75N Před 2 lety

    Great discussion. Thank you.

  • @jezzer1969
    @jezzer1969 Před 2 lety +4

    There are masses of fake vintage guitars in the U.K. I’d avoid Denmark St like the plague. The place has been a tourist trap since the 90’s.
    These vintage pieces are made by the same company who got sued by the Hives for selling fake vintage Hi-Watts. But there was a production line in the 1980’s of old Strats being turned into “vintage ones”. Most British guitarists know of the people responsible. What’s sad is how many live in denial.

    • @garywordsworth9302
      @garywordsworth9302 Před 2 lety +2

      Not to mention a sea of lashed up supposed original Marshall bluesbreaker combos
      Not to mention the fair amount of stolen to order vintage guitars and amps
      All roads as they say lead to Rome 😉

  • @Gottaloveguitars427
    @Gottaloveguitars427 Před 2 lety

    You guys are awesome, love these videos. 🎸

  • @surinderpunia2804
    @surinderpunia2804 Před 2 lety +4

    We need a separate video on Jonathan's Beanie Babys! 🙏 🙏 🙏

  • @Ranch5150SkinWalker
    @Ranch5150SkinWalker Před 2 lety +1

    I really enjoyed the Paul Davids video but really enjoyed the fact finding and deep dive in the CGS videos. Paul is a great guy and was just enamored with the guitar like any of us would be on first sight. But what a fascinating investigation into the history of that Strat. I wonder if the true identity of that guitar will ever come out. Perhaps it was a Hendrix owned Strat just not the Monterey one. Good luck proving it though without bonafide evidence.

  • @Donholleyglobeaz
    @Donholleyglobeaz Před 2 lety +2

    Mike Campbell is the reason why I’m learning to play the guitar.

    • @s2seltaeb
      @s2seltaeb Před 2 lety

      Mike is amazing. 👍 I have had the pleasure of meeting him, and I can tell you he’s as cool of a person as he is a guitar player.

  • @MrSmiley1964
    @MrSmiley1964 Před 2 lety

    FTR, if I'm buying a vintage guitar I want it disassembled as well. I'll buy a new set of strings if I don't buy it, but I want to make certain there aren't any strange routes or foreign bodies being used, the neck and the body match. All that good stuff. But this vid re-enforced what I've come to believe over the last few years, if I'm going to spend $8K+ on a vintage guitar I'm going to get a nice custom shop without the issues. Good talk guys, good talk. I want to play thru that Mike Campble amp!

  • @MaxPower-js1sk
    @MaxPower-js1sk Před 2 lety +2

    I’ve been lucky enough to own a number of classic vintage pieces, but I’m in my 60s and some of them weren’t very old when I bought them. I bought some vintage guitars back in the days when they were considered to be just “old” guitars rather than vintage.

  • @hangaroundrecords4761
    @hangaroundrecords4761 Před 2 lety

    I think the most obvious difference between the guitars was that Jimi’s had 4 springs in the back. But that could have been changed I suppose. It was still an awesome video!

  • @JiminTennessee
    @JiminTennessee Před 2 lety +3

    It was sad what happened here. How cool would this have been if it was real!! Paul’s great and knowledgeable. Things are not always what they seem. We can’t expect what we don’t inspect 👍✌️

    • @cgoebbert
      @cgoebbert Před rokem

      I had a boss that taught me that expression (“inspect what you expect”) about 30 years ago. I still use it today and apply the philosophy regularly.

  • @montecoucou53
    @montecoucou53 Před 2 lety +4

    It's unfortunate for Paul Davids because his enthusiastic naivety got him into trouble. But in a way, it has been a welcome reminder for other enthusiastic naives (like myself) of the many pitfalls of the vintage guitar market.

  • @kurtisr2339
    @kurtisr2339 Před 2 lety +6

    Paul may have overdriven his headlights a bit here. He has generated a great deal of trust and respect among a wide, wide viewership. My sense is that he is a vigilant steward of that trust when it comes to the products he himself creates and can control. But I don't think he saw these people coming. For me, sat at home, simple things like the neck plate and headstock decal set off all sorts of alarms from the get-go. I can't imagine what it might have been like getting caught up in the moment.

  • @MrRMB1
    @MrRMB1 Před 2 lety +1

    It just doesn't make sense to me, that Fender would authenticate it as THE Monterey guitar when there are so many differences that stand out. At any rate, great video as always and appreciate you looking out for the mortal consumer!

  • @anthonysablan8650
    @anthonysablan8650 Před 2 lety

    Appreciate the Bull Durham reference and YES it is Costner’s best movie

  • @tragedician
    @tragedician Před 2 lety +14

    The real sad part is the monetization of history. If the guitar really were the Hendrix Monterey Strat, it should be in a museum, not hidden away in some private collection.

    • @VikCain
      @VikCain Před 2 lety +2

      Oh men, can you imagine a sequel to the adventures of Ford Fairlane with the basic plot of national treasure just changing the constitution for the Monterrey strat? Get me Andrew Dice Clay on the phone!!!!

    • @NoCoverCharge
      @NoCoverCharge Před 2 lety +3

      I disagree guitars need to be played not sitting in a glass case

    • @400_billion_suns
      @400_billion_suns Před 2 lety

      The real one was very likely the black strat Jimi burned and smashed at the Ambassador Theatre in Aug ‘67, for a number of reasons. There are two photos of a black strat at those shows. That show was only a few weeks after the real one was last seen at Forest Hills, and the one he smashed at the Ambassador was wearing the same red leather strap that the Monterey strat had in every photo ever taken of it (Saville, Monterey Pop, Panhandle, Fillmore West, Whiskey A Go Go, and Forest Hills). I have a few other details about this I’ve put together including firsthand info from someone who was at all of the Ambassador Theatre shows.
      Edit: and to clarify, that particular guitar was far from playable after Jimi got done with it, lol. The body was broken, the neck tossed, and its remnants were signed by Jimi and left to the theatre. It was stolen many years later.

  • @REM1956
    @REM1956 Před 2 lety +1

    Back in the early 1980s I guy vaguely knew was selling a rosewood board cream colored Telecaster. He wanted $450 for it. It looked like an old one. I asked to take off the neck and look in the body cavities for markings. Long story short, there were no markings of any kind anywhere. I hadn't heard about the period Fender mandated no markings after someone found an obscenity written in a guitar. I passed on the Telecaster, as money was tight and I was looking for a maple fingerboard Tele. I probably passed on an early 1959 Telecaster for $450. Of course, $450 in 1982 is equal to $1300 today. Still that guitar is worth a lot more than $1300 now.

  • @docdaytona108
    @docdaytona108 Před 2 lety +20

    The more I see about the whole ‘vintage scene,’ the more of a modernist I become.
    Sure, there are timeless designs and finishes from the ‘50s and ‘60s, but there’s no reason those can’t be applied equally well to quality instruments made today (and with-GASP!-added knowledge applied!). Also, there are tons of pretty damned cool guitar types that DIDN’T exist before 1970.
    Vintage might give you that extra 2%, but to me, the difference for most is 98% psychosomatic.

    • @Nick-qq2nq
      @Nick-qq2nq Před 2 lety +4

      Not to mention most vintage fender guitars werent made by “master luthiers” like modern day. Fender custom shop guitars are better made guitars than about any pre cbs vintage guitar. I love vintage guitars but it’s become ingrained in a lot of peoples mind that they are the be all end all, which they aren’t.

    • @carlo6485
      @carlo6485 Před 2 lety +2

      We old musical farts (not my best imagery😏) would pass up the occasional factory junk duds, and today some of those are marketed as 'Mint Vintage, found in a closet' after sitting intentionally untouched for decades.
      "Hi$toric $trat$" now...

    • @subzero308
      @subzero308 Před 2 lety +1

      its more of the "maybe Hendrix touched this guitar lol" that's y I want a 61-68 fender strat but honestly custom shops r perfect for me.

  • @ryanfulldark2775
    @ryanfulldark2775 Před 2 lety +2

    “He’s still a pro musician…” -Baxter
    “Yes, making dozens of dollars.”-Jonathan
    😂😂😂 That little exchange cracked me up!

  • @TheBoboMaker
    @TheBoboMaker Před rokem

    I've got 2 vintage guitars that I'm proud of. One is a 1939 Kalamazoo archtop, it's not a Gibson. But for the 150$ I paid for it I'm happy and the neck is straight, (they didn't have truss rods).
    The other is a 69 Yamaha 12 string that I know for a fact did the club circuit in Britain until 1974. I can genuinely believe that Jimmy Page or some other British guitar hero from that period played it and there's some DNA/mojo from one of them in that fretboard. I only paid 175$ for that one.

  • @limpindug
    @limpindug Před 2 lety +2

    It's a wee bit depressing lusting after a dead person's possessions do you no think? 🎶🥃Respect and stay healthy all

  • @haldasinger6440
    @haldasinger6440 Před 2 lety +1

    I agree completely with your take. Anyone in Paul's place would have jumped at the chance. If it's not real, then there are culpable people that need to be held accountable, but I don't think he's in on any kind of scam.

    • @400_billion_suns
      @400_billion_suns Před 2 lety

      Agreed. I feel pretty bad for Paul in all of this. He posted on his Instagram before he went there that he was so excited he couldn't sleep, and in his video I think it's genuine when he says being picked to play the guitar was a life achievement (can't remember his exact wording but it was something to that effect).
      I don't even know if the person(s) who own this guitar believe it's real or not. They might have bought it back in 2012 fully believing it was what it claimed, and are now stuck with a high-dollar investment that has very little value. There are a few things that leave me very suspicious of them, though: (1) Heritage Auctions withdrew the guitar from auction in 2017, stating they had concerns about it not being the Monterey strat. If the owner(s) were innocent and clueless prior to that, then surely it must've set off concerns that they would investigate, right? (2) The fact that the seller(s) picked a person with huge reach and extraordinary video-making skills to put attention on the guitar, and told him that a few potential buyers were lined up, all while teasing an outrageous value to millions of viewers. (3) The follow-up by the people involved with the guitar after the many glaring issues with the guitar were called to attention (not only by several youtubers but also by a major guitar website). They have tried to debate, argue, and threaten their way around all of it, insisting that there is no credibility to any of the issues we've pointed out. Personally, if this were my guitar, and I believed it was genuine, I would be very concerned by the numerous clear issues that have been pointed out, and instead of arguing about them I'd be trying to get to the bottom of them. And if it turned out the guitar was a fake, I wouldn't be going after the people revealing it -- I'd be going after the original sellers.

  • @stratosexual1329
    @stratosexual1329 Před 2 lety +1

    The stratosphere sells fender custom shop bodies, and CS necks. They come with the paperwork.

  • @dudley509
    @dudley509 Před 2 lety

    You guys are hilarious!
    I usually get a good laugh..

  • @Dian2Gig
    @Dian2Gig Před 2 lety

    I'm not really into the "vintage" market because you can't trust people to be honest as to the pedigree of an instrument. The neck on that Strat looks too new. The oldest guitars I have is a Martin 0028-EC 1997 and a Joe Bonamassa Gold Top Epi 2012 and both have documentation. I want an instrument that sounds amazing and plays to my hands and ears. Great video guys! I appreciate you - from Apex, NC

  • @metart93
    @metart93 Před 2 lety

    What is the blue/silver amp on the left in the background?

  • @honnaconna7312
    @honnaconna7312 Před 2 lety +1

    There’s a video from a couple years ago of Paul reed smith doing a fan forum in guitarguitar Camden and he says in Denmark street someone handed him a guitar saying it was a legit vintage artist owned guitar and he immediately knew it was a fake from the feel of it. Didn’t say what the guitar was or which shop but it has to be this strat that caught Paul David’s out

    • @216trixie
      @216trixie Před 2 lety

      Paul taps wood. "Authentic"!!

  • @Jllyrol311
    @Jllyrol311 Před 2 lety +1

    I imagine anyone who can afford to purchase a historically significant guitar/amp/gear probably has a great deal of business experience and know what to look for in provenance.

  • @rstuartcpa
    @rstuartcpa Před 2 lety

    Now i have to check out Paul David’s video just to see what the heck!

  • @jameswhite5806
    @jameswhite5806 Před 2 lety +1

    Had the opportunity to buy Mick Ralph’s Les Paul Jr back around 78-79 for $500. Passed on it was too beat up🤬

  • @Nick-qq2nq
    @Nick-qq2nq Před 2 lety +6

    It unfortunately definitely not Hendrix’s strat. No blame on Paul. It’s completely the stores fault and they need to take ownership. Authenticity from an ex roadie should have been the first red flag.

  • @RS2KR
    @RS2KR Před 2 lety

    I understand where the Fender Custom Shop is coming from but they need to sell that Jazzmaster brass saddle bridge.

  • @lindelholden5465
    @lindelholden5465 Před 2 lety

    Field of Dreams might be a better movie metaphor for vintage guitar buying

  • @solaris70
    @solaris70 Před 2 lety

    when i first saw the article a few years ago
    2015/16
    and the auction info that was available online at the time ( very scant tbh )
    their seemed to be a bit of doubt because of the decal back then
    in Paul David CZcams video it seemed like it was the first look at it up close since the auction -
    from the appearance
    in the Paul David CZcams video 📽️ up close -
    it seemed like someone built that instrument after
    inspecting the original
    or studying photographs of the original -
    and copied it
    with whatever parts they could find at the time -
    possibly , maybe , probably , perhaps , etcetera .. .

  • @lazotashev8232
    @lazotashev8232 Před 2 lety +1

    That Jazzmaster on the wall 😂

    • @KRE808
      @KRE808 Před 2 lety

      That hollow body (or semi-hollow?) to the left of Baxter's head!

  • @davidmurray9193
    @davidmurray9193 Před 2 lety +1

    I feel for Paul, as the excitement in his face holding a guitar that may of been a Hendrix guitar was nice to see, the genuine glee of a guitarist holding a new/dream guitar which we all do, bringing back that child with a new toy, emotional quality (feel good factor) as we all have a different idea of what we want in a beautiful guitar.....then boom the shit show kicks in and it seems he's taking shit in the fall out from alot of sides, I feel Paul has been taken in and kicked a bit.

    • @vorpalblades
      @vorpalblades Před 2 lety

      He's always seemed like a pretentious prick, so I found it quite apropos.

  • @alanbeesby8914
    @alanbeesby8914 Před 2 lety +2

    Not sure I entirely agree with Derek on the podcast that Paul D is responsible, It’s not like we are all going to be rushing out to buy a £1m+ vintage guitar and anyone who is should have their experts check it! I am sure Paul D is as sad about not getting to play the real thing as anyone, but with cease and desists flying around, he is probably a bit more careful about what he says 👍

  • @ryanandring2688
    @ryanandring2688 Před 2 lety +2

    About a minute in and you guys haven’t given context to what the video is about, just something to think about. Love the show
    Edit: and now Paul’s video is private, very interesting

  • @Lestowash
    @Lestowash Před 2 lety +1

    If you can SEE the elf, that is a very entry-level elf in training...

  • @tipsylibrarians7764
    @tipsylibrarians7764 Před 2 lety

    On the subject of the people controlling the estate- yeah, as a teen I bought a Jimi Hendrix album from a cassette tape bargain bin. His was mid 1980s, I don’t recall the name. It was a bunch of instrumentals, some didn’t have a clear ending or beginning. It kind of sucked. In hindsight it was probably a jam session he never intended to release. It was years before I gave Hendrix another shot. My point is, making that decision to make a few bucks on a crappy product probably hurts the value of he brand in the long run.

  • @thseed7
    @thseed7 Před 2 lety +1

    You need to watch "Mr. Brooks." Best Kevin Costner movie ever.

  • @zoomzoom3950
    @zoomzoom3950 Před 2 lety +1

    Vintage instruments are challenging to authenticate; like artwork, the prices attract unsavory actors into the game.
    Emotion does not help you see a financial transaction clearly,
    Many of the guitars used by famous musicians back in they day were new, or only a few years old. Some of these musicians no longer use their vintage instruments outside of home or studio because of the increased value.
    I find the vintage instrument market and mysticism entertaining. Certainly many top purveyors of vintage instruments are doing well financially, buying and selling; which should tell you all you need to know about the vintage market.
    I'm not a collector, most of my guitars I purchased new and still own them; they become vintage since I purchased them.
    My oldest used guitar is a '37 Harmony Cremona V archtop; it cost less than new archtops, and much less than comparable pre-1950 Epiphone, Gibson, D'Angelico, Gretsch, etc. archtops.
    Now my vintage one-owner '62 Hammond and matching Leslie are a different story; but I also have documentation and original owner's purchase receipt. ;)
    Cheers!

  • @DarylMorse-jj9ge
    @DarylMorse-jj9ge Před 10 měsíci +1

    Did anyone watch the live at Monterey footage where Jimi lit the guitar on fire then smashed it into two pieces I would’ve thought that would’ve been researched before hand

  • @mykuntstynx9463
    @mykuntstynx9463 Před 2 lety

    I thought I saw a video of Dweezil Zappa saying he had it. That it was under a staircase in the family home, forgotten for years.

  • @MashaT22
    @MashaT22 Před 2 lety +2

    Wow, the tone of this video is serious - didn’t know you guys were capable of being serious! 🧐🤔🧐🤔
    I tend to think it’s possible it might be a Hendrix Strat (maybe one he didn’t use it on stage, but in a studio, for fun, and/or for media photos), but that it’s not the Monterey strat based on the evidence I’ve seen.
    My issue is that the owner of this supposed Monterrey strat won’t show anyone else the provenance and that they’re threatening lawsuits left and right - which are especially directed at the CGS channel, which is unfair. Mike really dug much deeper like anyone else doing their due diligence before dropping $10 mil. It’s ok to raise concerns and questions. We all want it to be the Monterrey strat. The owners claim it is, but they seem to desperately be against proving it - I know people are worried about forging papers and such, but CGS offered to look in private and sign an NDA to verify what he saw. They refused. A really legit auction house obviously questioned the provenance as well and cancelled the auction before CGS took it much further to do some serious examining; we don’t really know what the auction house’s appraisers saw or heard that was doubtful. If nobody is willing to talk, it just makes people leery, and with good reason.
    I’m hoping they can verify that it’s still a Hendrix strat from other photos now that we know it’s not likely the Monterrey. If the owner isn’t willing to step up and show someone trustworthy proof, they aren’t going to likely sell it for their asking price either. It’s not their best interest even if it’s the real deal. Makes no sense, but I hope they start talking and explaining more.

  • @danielphillipsmusic9145

    Good rule to live, and do business by is the bigger the prize the more the incentive for someone to get up to shenanigans. So adjust accordingly. Interesting side note. My 2011 Custom Shop Time Machine 55 P bass was an NOS model, but the body was stamped "RELIC". I wonder, are all CS bodies stamped "RELIC", or only the aged models?

    • @charlesbolton8471
      @charlesbolton8471 Před 2 lety

      NOS is considered a level of Relic.

    • @danielphillipsmusic9145
      @danielphillipsmusic9145 Před 2 lety

      @@charlesbolton8471 which is weird because it’s the only tier that is specifically done with no aging. As per the CS site. “An all Lacquer finish that hasn’t aged at all- as if you went back in time and bought it.” All CS Time Machine bodies must be stamped Relic in case they end up being used on one, I suppose.

  • @nelsonw2096
    @nelsonw2096 Před 2 lety

    Out of curiosity how often do you examine a guitar and figure out that it isn’t what the seller says it is?

  • @SticksAandstonesBozo
    @SticksAandstonesBozo Před 2 lety

    I just almost bought a gibson custom shop that literally every guitar dealer in the state was unable to verify if it was real. How insane is that. So the poor guy had to sell it for 700 bucks because the paper work wasn’t with it and it’s so good that if it’s fake someone put some stupid time into making it what it is to be able to fool a dozen shops.

  • @somebodyelseuk
    @somebodyelseuk Před rokem

    At 2 minutes... I've argued that logic when people compare LPR9s vs 59 bursts. If you only have £5k in the bank, it's not that big an extravagence to spend it on an R9. To spend £300k on a burst, I'd need to have a lot more than £300k in the bank. £5k is a lot of money, but it's a level of money most people could raise in an emergency. 300k is a whole different ball game. The sonic difference between the two is a lot closer than distance between having 5k in the bank and 300k. I'd need £10million in the bank before I'd think about spending £300k on a guitar.

  • @Countryboy-cn1ob
    @Countryboy-cn1ob Před 2 lety +2

    People who have $10 million don't play guitar - they spend their entire life focused 100% on making money. That Strat will be put in a warehouse next to the Pagani that they drove twice, the da Vinci painting they don't really care for, and the title for the condo on Billionaires Row in Manhattan that they purchased for a tax write-off.

  • @jpalberthoward9
    @jpalberthoward9 Před 2 lety +1

    What if I said that I have a set of Snap-On sockets and ratchets that belonged to Dale Earnhart's head mechanic, and I want 5 million dollats for them?
    After all, these sockets have "The Mojo". You just can't tighten a 9/16 bolt unless you use one of these, right?
    Most people would probably say "Whatever it is that you're smokin, pass it over here, let me try some" or 'Youre out of your mind"
    And rightfully so. A good mechanic can put engines together that will win races all day with tools you can get at O'Reillys.
    Hendrix would probably say something like "Whats the matter with you guys? Its only a guitar! Its a real good one, but its really just an off the rack Stratocaster"
    "Forget all this other crap and just play the damn thing!!"

    • @-doggy-6670
      @-doggy-6670 Před 2 lety +1

      That's cheap for Snap On,let's sort the finance out...

  • @normanperkel139
    @normanperkel139 Před 2 lety

    Where did you guys move the Silver Sky???

  • @_NoDrinkTheBleach
    @_NoDrinkTheBleach Před 2 lety +2

    Who knows how the chain of custody played out for a touring musician who died 52 years ago. I feel like if it wasn't documented back then, there's no honest way of verifying what is or isn't the actual property of Jimi Hendrix.

  • @calumm8639
    @calumm8639 Před 2 lety +2

    00:13 did you say Sir Paul Davids?

  • @davegallagher7428
    @davegallagher7428 Před 2 lety

    The only way that I would be in the market for a vintage guitar would be that I hit the lottery. My first call would be to you guys. I have my plan in place now I just need to hit the lottery.

  • @IPLAYLOUD
    @IPLAYLOUD Před 2 lety +1

    A buddy has a '65 Parts Strat that has Hendrix signature on the underside of the guard. 2 other signatures are of former Manny's Music (NYC) employees.
    Is it REAL? The signature has been verified, but he doesn't believe it was owned/played by Jimi. Who knows. It's just a good Strat.

  • @mr.astrophysics9115
    @mr.astrophysics9115 Před 2 lety +3

    I'm the one who first brought the fake hendrix strat to everyone's attention..

  • @richbriggs6053
    @richbriggs6053 Před 2 lety

    Baxter your mom is awesome 👌

  • @SlainteMhath
    @SlainteMhath Před 2 lety

    Bull Durham is the all-time best sports movie.

  • @electrolinks
    @electrolinks Před 2 lety

    i liked it

  • @honestbrute9216
    @honestbrute9216 Před 2 lety

    Can you guys please do videos about vintage basses..? You guys never talk about the Fender Custom Shop basses …

  • @derekeboyd
    @derekeboyd Před 2 lety

    Bull Durham is the best Costner movie, Meat!

  • @alexwoolridge94aw
    @alexwoolridge94aw Před 2 lety

    I bought a vintage 61 junior from a reputable dealer online. Was as described when I received it. Headstock repair, refin neck and un original tuners. Everything else all original. I'm a player and it's perfect. I take it giggin most weekends. If I want a perfect one I'd but a Custom shop

  • @2000SkyView
    @2000SkyView Před 2 lety +2

    Sort of funny - Relic guitars getting so good they are possibly devaluing the real thing.

  • @jhs564
    @jhs564 Před 2 lety

    Is the dude to the right the Jack Dalton character from Macgyver with beard?

  • @Angel-fz8dr
    @Angel-fz8dr Před 2 lety +2

    Hey, where is my Lunar Ice?

  • @CaptainCraigKWMRZ
    @CaptainCraigKWMRZ Před 2 lety +2

    "I'm a private guy about the guitars I have ..."
    Even though I own a guitar store, and have a CZcams channel promoting guitars, etc. Just because I turn out videos playing my guitars; I'm not promoting!

  • @davidmiles533
    @davidmiles533 Před 2 lety

    I can’t play like Jimmy. No way would I Ever EVER spend a huge amount for a guitar. I have a 594 10 top and that’s as high as I go. Next one will be my dream acoustic maybe…D-45

  • @MrGixxer1300r
    @MrGixxer1300r Před 2 lety

    I wished you would talk about the CZcams channel "Music is Win" You got to have rockin roll is a company that uses Tyler, and his Music is win CZcams channel to sell vintage guitars that belonged to famous people.

  • @ThisOldGuy3
    @ThisOldGuy3 Před 2 lety +1

    How dare you overlook "Tin Cup"......🤘😎🎸

  • @thedeadlastmusic
    @thedeadlastmusic Před 2 lety

    Have Trogly buy it for you!

  • @WalkenDead
    @WalkenDead Před 2 lety +2

    There is allot of similarities in between the Hendrix estate and the Prince estate. All just a big money grab and allot of infighting

  • @italianbaboon9970
    @italianbaboon9970 Před 2 lety

    GOOOOOOOODDDDDD MORNINGGGGGGGGG VIETNAMMMMMMM !!! ;P

  • @joshloggins3298
    @joshloggins3298 Před 2 lety

    I wouldn’t want to own a vintage instrument that belonged to a famous guitarist. Sure I could see myself modding a guitar to be similar to it, but the real deal? Nope. For me the closest I would go, would definitely be a custom shop. Most probably bought from Casino Guitars, or Wildwood.

  • @michaeljoyce3286
    @michaeljoyce3286 Před 2 lety

    I wonder if they’re gonna actually just turn and sell it when it’s all over ,the strat it’s still gonna make money it just won’t be $10 million ,but with all the Social media buzz it should bring a little more

  • @misternobody4786
    @misternobody4786 Před 2 lety +1

    How much is pixie dust worth?

  • @richardlynch5632
    @richardlynch5632 Před 2 lety +1

    Have to wonder what Jimi would think of this...?

  • @ericsmith7287
    @ericsmith7287 Před 2 lety

    The cobbler never saw the elves make the shoes either, so........ Still don't see my Silver Sky in the background.

  • @leftwrite
    @leftwrite Před 2 lety +1

    My perspective - Hendrix wasn't known for taking particularly good care of his Strats. Strats from the 70's were a dime a dozen, meaning they were built to be an everyman's guitar. Those two factors makes it questionable to spend an insane amount of money on such a guitar. Even with a strong providence. That being said, to each his own.

    • @leftwrite
      @leftwrite Před 2 lety +2

      "provenance"

    • @davidpggarrett
      @davidpggarrett Před 2 lety

      Most of his Strats would have been 60s models, but I agree with your point.

  • @joshuajkoplin
    @joshuajkoplin Před rokem

    “I had to stop playing it, there was too much energy coming from it” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 The placebo effect or just being a bullshitter.

  • @hansgauvin8076
    @hansgauvin8076 Před 2 lety +1

    When I watched that vid, It didn't cross my mind it could not be the Hendrix strat. I don't fault Paul Davids here though. Nobody, not even someone with boatloads of cash likes to be ripped off, not for 100$, not for 10 millions $. Research, research, research. Buyers beware.