Post-War Plans That Were Never Followed
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*Do you know of any other post-war plans that weren't followed?*
I do not
But thanks for asking
@@dumbvideosinc.9689 bro, then this wasnt a question to YOU
It kind of fits in that this plan never came to fruition, but what about the Zimmerman Plan to give Mexico its former Territory lost to the U.S. in exchange for Invading them and joining the side of Germany in WWI, to include Texas, California, and most of the Southwest.
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For the Japanese one, the reason was actually lack of interest of all parties. Republic of China didnt want Shikoku because of Chinese civil war. UK's economy was battered after the war, so they didnt prefer the southern part. Plus, it had no resources. Soviet union didnt get North Japan was because the US didnt want to share a border with USSR like in Germany. France was kept out of the plan because it didnt contribute anything in the Pacific theatre. So, Japan was occupied by USA. It was stripped of its armed forces and has American military bases to this day.
imagine the northen part being given to ussr
But Russia got south Sakhalin though
Yea, that's true. History matters did a video on it. The US, besides, China, did the bulk of the fighting in the Pacific.
Add in the Chinese Civil War, Britian being broke, France not contributing much in the Pacific, not wanting a repeat in Germany with the USSR, along with getting the nukes first and Japan hating communism was enough the US to hold all responsibilities of occupying Japan.
I mean the USSR played dirty aswell, occupying Manchuria so commie China could get it.
history matters referencing
To be honest, I was expecting General Knowledge to say “War. War never changes.”
I can't believe I missed that opportunity
Borders do
@@General.Knowledge its cliche and not true anyway, its good that you didnt
@@outerspace7391 Not true? That means that war does change... What exactly changes body counts?
@@john2g1 the fact that there are many more? Are the Anglo-Zanzibar war and the first world war comparable??
The Morgenthau plan would have also involved complete German de-industrialization. De facto trying to make the country poor. It was a plan for people who had not understood the role of the Versailles Treaty in the origins of WWII.
Indeed. I was thinking we got one Hitler after Versailles, how many Hitlers are we going to have after Morgenthau?
ironic that a tribal guy encourage that treaty.
@@ilFrancotti none because they’d have no domestic control silly
@@oppionatedindividual8256 you can't keep an occupation forever
@@ahmedfayek344 the Russians have been able to with the Turks, the Chinese with the Uighur, the French with the Occitan, all of the America’s with the native peoples, the IRA in Ireland, various African states, Abkhazia and South Ossetia in Georgia, Transnistria in Moldova, Transylvania, Northern Cyprus, various states over the Kurds. Etc. etc. you’re not an expert, keep your mouth gilded shut.
2:11 there are a few things missing from the map. Mainly, Italian and French occupations in Southern Anatolia.
Italians left Anatolia in protest because they got way less than what the Allies promised them. They also left their weapons for the Turkish nationalists lol
French however actually fought for the area around Cilicia. They armed Armenian gangs but then decided they were too brutal and continued the fight with their own soldiers, until they were beaten. France was also the first Allied power to recognize Turkey's independence, in the Treaty of Ankara which they made peace.
The map shows only the areas to be annexed, but doesn't show the areas to be occupied.
I figured it out. Watch it closely and see it says 1920..thats was in the middle of independence war when british tried to apeaease national movement by softening Original sevres.. This is second sevres..I am glad we refused it.
Y'all still running with the "Armenian gangs" bs, huh?
@@theyeening After occupation French armed Armenians in Cilicia and used them as garrison until they disbanded the Armenian Legion. That's a known fact
@@kmmmsyr9883
And after that about a million armenians mysteriously became missing, right? :)
@@user-pv1mx5hz2l what does that have to do with the French using Armenian gangs and then disbanding them after they realised they were just bloodthirsty maniacs ?
And no they didn't just "disappear". We deported them nobody denies that , and it happened happened in 1915 , not the 20s. Learn the timeline first.
You forgot to mention that, according to a study led by Herbert Hoover, the Morgenthau plan could caused the death of 25 million germans by famine.
Great video as always, hugs from a brazilian!
That and it would slow western European economic recovery
And in turn would drive Western Europe towards communism.
Hmmmm
How’s that?
@@Ballin4Vengeance
The problems brought on by the execution of these types of policies were eventually apparent to most US officials in Germany. Germany had long been the industrial giant of Europe, and its poverty held back the general European recovery.[47][48] The continued scarcity in Germany also led to considerable expenses for the occupying powers, which were obligated to try to make up the most important shortfalls through the GARIOA program (Government and Relief in Occupied Areas). In view of the continued poverty and famine in Europe, and with the onset of the Cold War which made it important not to lose all of Germany to the communists, it was apparent by 1947 that a change of policy was required.
The change was heralded by Restatement of Policy on Germany, a famous speech by James F. Byrnes, then United States Secretary of State, held in Stuttgart on September 6, 1946. Also known as the "Speech of hope" it set the tone of future US policy as it repudiated the Morgenthau Plan economic policies and with its message of change to a policy of economic reconstruction gave the Germans hope for the future. Herbert Hoover's situation reports from 1947, and "A Report on Germany" also served to help change occupation policy. The Western powers' worst fear by now was that the poverty and hunger would drive the Germans to Communism. General Lucius Clay stated "There is no choice between being a communist on 1,500 calories a day and a believer in democracy on a thousand."
I also included mention of the American worry that the plan would lead to Germany falling to comunism
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There is a big mistake in the Turkish part. Treaty of Sevres enabled allied powers to invade Ottoman land gradually if the majority of the residents is not Turkish in a specific region.
After Sevres has signed, allied powers provoked Armenians and Kurdish in the east and Greek in the west to change the demographic structures of regions in order to claim these lands.
What ended up happening was the Turkish Independence War because of this aggressive invasion.
The motto of the De Facto Turkish Government back then was, “Independence or Death”. Lesson of the story, do not push limits too much especially if they are Turkish or German.
Ne anlattın bro
@@Alikow89 nasi siktigimizi anlattim kardesim
Serves gave allies the right to occupy land where they think it's "necessary" . Winston Principles gave the "majority gets the land" rule.
@@eicdafusen8035 Yes, but that was intentional. It was used as an instrument to justify the invasion. It did not have any ties with the demographic structure of the local populace. That is why I called it an aggresive invasion, aim was to wipe out Turkish completely.
@@eicdafusen8035 actually, the treaty of mudros gave them the right to occupy. The war started after mudros, sevres just increased turkish anger
I read that after Paraguay war ended, Argentina proposed to completely dissolve Paraguay between them and Brazil
I didn't know that! Why did it end up not happening?
@@General.Knowledge brazil said no
@@General.Knowledge Brazil didn't agree with dissolve Paraguay, then Argentina and Brazil search for international advice and the current US president at the time influenced to Paraguay stays as a country. They even rename a Paraguayan department to "Presidente Hayes" after his efforts to "save" Paraguay
Brazil occupied Paraguay for a couple of years, after the end of the Triplice Alliance War. The idea, from the Brazilian side, was the most logical one: first, stay in the Country until it could get back in its feet ( after the destruction); secondly, " touching" or incorporating an Spanish Country would be the dissolution ( in long term) of the Brazilian State as we know it ( this is the most fundamental point that guides the Brazilian External Politics in South America : keep under view but at a ""safe" distance); thirdly, the Brazilian Government wanted a " weaker" Paraguay but not the dissolution of the Paraguayan State ( as wanted and desired by Argentina since ever ( there are those who think that part or the whole of Paraguay was part of the Vice - Reynado del Rio de La Plata)); because of the military and strategic value of Paraguay as a buffer State between the two big " rivals" in South America ( as well as Uruguay).
Until today, the predominant Brazilian presence in Paraguay is notable in business, industry, banking, land ownership etc. In South America, Paraguay is the closest of the Spanish countries to Brazil.
@Yago Dourado The United States' position coincided with the Brazilian one : a " weaker" ( militarily speaking) Paraguay but standing firm as a Country!
There are many ways of " annexing"... Some are very obvious : others, a little more subtle. ( Take a look at the decisions in Mercosul/ Mercosur and you can clearly see what I am pointing to)!
France: **wants to partitions some parts of Germany**
Germans: what part of *NEIN* do you not understand
After WWI, Poland and Lithuania weren't going to be annexed. They were already created into kingdoms. The kingdom of Poland and the Kingdom of Lithuania were made in 1917.
There were three pre-20th century wars that had post-war plans that were never followed by specific countries.
- The Italian War of 1521-1526: After the capture of Francis I, the King of France at the Battle of Pavia in 1525, he was forced to sign the Treaty of Madrid. The provisions of the treaty would've seen France cede Lombardy to a restored Francesco II Sforza as Duke of Milan, renounce all claims to Italy, Flanders and Artois, cede French Burgundy to Emperor Charles V, return the lands siezed from Imperial ally the Duke of Bourbon and on top of it, surrender Provence to the man. Furthermore, his ally, the King of Navarre would be forced to cede his claims and all his lands to Charles by right as Spanish King of Navarre. Although the treaty was signed, it was immediately repudiated following Francis' return to France.
- War of the Sixth Coalition: Prior to the Coalition's invasion of France in 1814, the Coalition offered peace terms, in the form of the Frankfurt Proposals. In this, France would lose control and influence over Poland, Spain, the Netherlands and Italy, but would be allowed to retain control of their natural frontier, effectively, returning France to its pre-Napoleonic Wars territories it directly controlled (Belgium, the Rhenish left bank, Western Switzerland and Nice). Napoleon, still believe the war could be turned around dithered, and would historically go on to lose both those lands for France but also lose the throne for himself and his son.
- Congress of Vienna: Prior to the Hundred Days, Prussia and Russia aligned with each other and also threatened war over the fate of Poland and Saxony, in particular, Russia desired to annex all of the former Polish partition territories as a Kingdom of Poland within the Russian Empire (or at the very least, a united Polish state under personal union with Russia under Tsar Alexander I). Prussia was on board as its king, Frederick William III, sought to annex all of Saxony, a move that irked Britain and Austria, and had it not been for Napoleon effectively siezing power and launching the Hundred Days War, it was likely that Prussia and Russia would fight Britain and Austria (with France likely aligning with one of the two) to change the map in their favor.
That treaty is the softened of Sevres after the national assembly started a rebellion against the original. The original was far worse. The original basically gave the entire Agean region and Thrace to Greece , the Mediterranean to Italy , the Southeast to France and the proposed Kurdistan state , the east to Armenia and Istanbul was to be made an internationally governed city. It also basically made the economy be completely in the hands of Europe and basically disbanded whatever armed forces the Ottomans had. It was a ludicrous treaty. I'm glad we didn't accept either of those.
After the stuff you guys were pulling here in the Balkans, Middle East and the Caucasus for centuries, that deal would've been well deserved.
@CuriousGolden kuyruk acısı var sende galiba kardeş.
@@theyeening you can't really guilt us into agreeing with you, as the numbers western europeans have killed with their empires/nations exceeds the number of all Muslim Empires combined.
*Far Better*
@@theyeening everyone believes in what he wants.
The Trieste/Trst sittuation after ww2 was quite interesting, almost even starting ww3
Thankfully it was given back to its rightful italian owners
@@felicepompa1702 lmao, no
@@felicepompa1702 bahahahaha, funny joke
One must note that the idea of Germany annexing large swaths of Poland and the Baltics in WW1 fell more and more out of favor in the Reichstag and instead new proposals arose like the United Baltic Duchy that existed for a short time.
Germany actually did occupy the Baltics after Tannenburg, first Lithuania and Courland, and later Livonia and Estonia as well, whose nobles (aside from Lithuania) were mostly Baltic Germans, until the surrender in the west.
However then the Germans actually came back in 1919 to fight the Bolsheviks and again briefly established a Baltic German state in Riga.
Both times, especially in 1919, the Germans promised soldiers settlement in Courland and Livonia. Eventually after the Germans were defeated by Estonia as Cesis in 1919, the allies compelled the Germans to leave. However these lost conquests in the “wild east” formed a huge part of the “stab in the back of a victorious army” theory, and effectively formed part of a line of precursors from the German “East Settling” that colonized the Baltic and set up the Baltic German and Prussian nobility in the 1200s-1400s, to the victory at Tannenburg in defense of Prussia and the subsequent fleeting reconquest of the Baltic in 1914-18, to the settlement attempt in 1919 that was eventually defeated, straight through to the “Drive to the East” and “Living Space” ideas of the 1930s-40s
Tbh the way Turkey booted out the allies, if the Ottoman Empire was as united, they mightve saved all or most of their territories. Too bad the empire was already on its last legs and the ww1 was just the final catalyst.
@@TheWazzoGames Isn't thats what I am saying? The Ottoman Empire was breaking apart from within far before ww1 and the war eventually did it
If only they hadn’t joined they would’ve survived
@@Cyanduck485 maybe, depends on if they would’ve been able to effectively reform as the ottomans
@@Cyanduck485 I agree but they were already kinda broken from within.
The ottomans were fighting against the Turkish Nationalists like their whole army was non Turkish
There's another post-war treaty that never been followed is the return of the 4 small islands of Southern Kuril Islands to Japan in the San Francisco Treaty of 1951 in which the Soviet Union didn't attend on that treaty. Just like the town of Olivenca in Spain, the Southern Kuril Islands which is near to Hokkaido was a long history of being part of Japan right before the Russo-Japanese War in 1904 but at the end of the World War II, those 4 small islands had been occupied by the Soviet Union followed by the invasion of the entire Kuril Islands and Japan wants to bring it back to them as what they called it as the Northern Territory but because of the Cold War and Japan had lost in the war just like her allied country, Germany, the Soviets refused it and up to this day the Southern Kuril Islands are on a territorial dispute between Russia and Japan but there was a peace talks regarding to handed over back to those islands to Japan but there are no developments.
Russia giving back territory? Funny joke.
the thing with olivenza is that before 1801 the olivenzas people said that they where spanish or portugues depending on the circunstance
is said that the tax collectors of spain and portugal where force to go together house by house for the taxes and aparently who pay taxes to one or another depend in which was lower
other point is that technically by some weird feudal law was a vassal of the crown of castilla and the crown of portugal simultaneously
Well, I don't know about examples, but considering the restructuring that happened through it, I think there might be stuff related to the Peace of Westphalia. Simply because basically everyone in Europe was dragged into the 30 years war
Nice to meet you generalknowledge!
re: the dutch annexation and return of german land in 1963, a dutch friend once told me a story (that i never bothered to verify) over how lots of people got rich overnight.
The Dutch and W.German govt agreed on when everyone would be once again German citizens. Everything they owned inside that land would also be considered German owned, thus no IMPORT TAXES would be levied.
Cue a golden rush the days preceeding the return, with many stocking consumer goods on sheds, warehouses, trucks, stables, any empty rooms they could find... only to be sold with a premium discount once they became German.
This is true. My grandparents lived in Selfkant which is the most western part of Germany today. It was one of the two small muncipalities which were given to the Netherlands and bought back in 1963. My grandparents also told me about the enormous amount of goods which were stored in the villages before the night they got part of Germany again. basically everyone living there rented their houses and storages to vendors who avoided customs this way
@@capau123 de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niederl%C3%A4ndische_Annexionspl%C3%A4ne_nach_dem_Zweiten_Weltkrieg#R%C3%BCckgabe_1963
"butternacht"... nice :)
thanks for confirming that bit of history for me
Wow
Very interesting! Part of history we never had at school!
Almost all are about my home country Germany 🇩🇪. Whom my grandmother spoke a German accent that os similar to Dutch.
And my Grandfather had too flee from Bohemia modern day Czechia because back then the Sudetenland where a historically German influenced part since the 16 century.
Well that’s life I guess.
Great video. I didn't know there were plans to divide up Japan with my country's involvement, nor have I heard of the "Saar" and they had their own flag!?
Not only that, Saarland entered "national" teams in the 1952 Helsinki Olympic Games and in the qualifying tournament for the 1954 Football World Cup.
The Saarland football coach, Helmut Schön, later managed West Germany.
1 FC Saarbrücken represented Saarland in the inaugural European Champions' Cup in 1955, beating AC Milan at the San Siro.
This is so interesting!
I agree!
Great video.
YOU deserve a million subscribers
Fun fact: the president of Extremadura (the spanish region where Olivenza is) was born in Olivenza. I find it curious that someone of a "conflicted territory" works for the government
It's not really conflicted anymore and hasn't been for ages. I'm from Spain and practically no one knows and/ore cares about the Olivenza situation and I'm probably sure it's the same for Portugal. As a Spaniard I'm glad we got to keep it though, even if it is a very small territory in a relatively poor region.
Belgian annexations plans after WW1 included parts of Germany, all of Luxembourg (which was Belgiums ally) and the Dutch territory of Zeeuws-Vlaanderen and entire province of Limburg, while the Netherlands was neutral in WW1
Always is forgotten that Portugal (thru Brasil) invaded also Uruguay and that Sul states to Spain, which should also have given back to Spain, but afterwards came various independences and so on.. but some parts of South Brasil should have been given back to Spain at that time or later case to Uruguay-Agentina-Paraguay(?), in ex change to Olivenza. So Spain lost more.
Lausanne was not a decleration of "loss of territory" or the "Ottoman Empire's death". Your narrative somehow makes it look like the independence war wasn't a thing and it was just a give away of the empire.
Also the international zone was not to "remain Turkish".
Yes, there are some mistakes but but I think the narrator is ok overall. The Sevres map is also a lot smaller in reality planning whole estearn mediterrenian coast to Italians and south eastern region to the French and the eastern to semi independant Kurdish and Armenia along Greeks with not just Smryna(Izmir) but the whole Aegean region including Aydin, Manisa, Denizli etc.
This guy needs more subscribers
Os alentejanos lá pensaram que não valia a pena ficar com mais uns chaparros, visto que já têm tantos. Esta foi a razão pela qual Olivença ficou para Espanha :D
eu falo português e mesmo assim não entendi lhufas do que você disse kkkkkkkk
@@BJReolon bem... o amigo fala português do brasil. Eu falo português português :D os alentejanos são aqueles que vivem a sul do rio Tejo, nomeadamente em Beja, Évora e Portalegre. Nestas zonas a vegetação é muito semelhante, seca e com muito chaparros. Olivença ficaria ali na zona do alentejo português
i appreciate the Belgian anthem at the beginning as background music! ;)
There was a plan in the 1870s, after the paraguay war, to completely eliminate paraguay from existence, with half of it going to argwntina and half to brazil, however, it never took
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South Germany would later come together with Switzerland because i remember there was a voting if Badenwuerthemberg would join Switzerland but it stopped before the vote.
This great state would be the power nation in Europe i believe.
Love Turkey from Japan 🇯🇵❤️🇹🇷
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Interesting stuff
Good!🔥
'Territorial changes are a big part in military conflicts'
Germany: ... umm yeah
Also Spain.
Divided Japan would have twice the anime, twice the J-Pop and their own version of Kim Jong-un if that had happened.
*Imagining Communism in Anime and Anime girl Stalin*... AHHH!
The Republic of China is not communism
more like destroyed and disgustingly rebuilded infrastructure, poor joke of a goverment and many others "funny things" ~ sincerely, from a person from post iron curtine.
nah it will only create another North Korea. One Kim Jong-Un is already enough 😅
@@Bohemian0522 If Japan was divided, we could had a Kim Jong-Dos
Ok so with japan, it was partially devided with britian being given some parts, but it didint last long, they were very poor and an occupation costs alot. As for the other ones, the USA having done most of the work in the war refused to give the USSR anything and China was very busy with a civil war so they didint care. In the end the usa was the only one left.
History Matters recently released a video about post-Napoleonic division plans for France that never happened.
Good video
Thank you!
There was also a Soviet plan to invade Spain between them and the Allies to overthrow Francisco Franco from power since he supported the Axis in the Eastern Front against Stalin in WWII. This plan was never accepted mostly thanks to UK oposing to the idea
Spaniard here. From what I know, th reason Olivença wasn't returned was because modern-day Uruguay was given to Portugal.
No tenía ni la menor idea. Cuando pasó eso?
It was never given, it was conquered, And later becoming a province of independent Brazil.
But to be honest we dont care about Olivença, we have plenty of Sobreiros already. It's a meme whenever there's news about Portugal vs Spain, like in the Eurovision you didn't gave us any point. All social media was talking how we should invade Spain and take Olivença because of that😂
@@leodomingox I'm actually glad that at least someone said it, that Portugal doesn't really make a big deal of it. This channel was making think otherwise.
@@eloyosorio3752 we dont that much. There's always people that talk about in a more serious way but I have found that to be almost non-existent. Not something that diminish our country in a greater way.
Plus is always a good talking about about two countries that have been friendly rivals for the last centuries and have a long shared history.
But yes, c'mon man 0 points? We gave you 12!!
you should do what defines nations borders
The post nepolonic plans. The one I'm most intrested in the context of ideas of nationalism is the idea of France 'natural' boarders being on the rhine. If that had occurred i seen alternative modern day where it is the obvious boarder- the giant river that was the old boundary of gual and germania
The Rhine als border between Gaul and Germania was Caesarian propaganda. Germanic tribes settled also to the west of the river and Celtic tribes to the east. That's why France's "natural borders" are nonsense. If you like to find out about a real natural boundary, look at the names of mountains and settlements on a map. French names are easy to distinguish from German ones - even if the latter were Frenchized after the annexation.
@@thkempeAt the time i understand the natrual boarders was more about the strategic geography of the rhine protecting france alone side the mountains than delinating a nation state.
Those kind of non-national boundries can then turn into national boundaries over time. Especially europe, one argument is ww1 redrew the boarders and ww2 redrew the people.
Will you bring back the flag contest?
The Soviets/Russians didn't -- and still don't -- understand: Most countries prefer the Americans to you. Forward this memo to the Chinese.
By most countries u mean the lapdogs of us and western nations??
Because no one cares about school shooting children
add the keyword western before countries and you might be completely right.
@@jatin9070 - Japan? South Korea?
@@SilvanaDil A measly 2 out of many countries in Asia.
@@AICW - Fine; let's put it this way: all advanced economies. It's not our fault that Asia doesn't have many.
If you want to see what happens to a country that got divided... look at Hungary.
They were forced into WWI and could not got over that loss in the last 100 years.
Contrary to popular narrative, Hungary was not forced into WW1. At first, they were very much opposed to the idea since Austria would've brought even more instability into the empire by annexing Serbia. That was, until Austria promised it would not annex Serbia and Hungary gave their approval.
@@Sceptonic
Might be true, but Hungary was punished mutch more, than the shotscallers. The funny part is that after the war, Hungary lost territory to even Austria.
@@janopsilver They still agreed, and Austria also lost a lot of territory. Hungary lost a tiny bit of land that was majority Austrian, not a big deal.
@@janopsilver Burgenland was majority German, except the city of Sopron which is majority Hungarian. Hungary got Sopron back.
@@risannd yes
I would say Brest-Litovsk was almost completely implemented; just the parts which said Germany would control the new states it created fell through. The USSR eventually reconquered the territory the treaty gave up, but for a little while there were independent Baltics and a much enlarged Poland.
Also the Allies wanted to give south Tyrol back to Austria, but as Austria declared its neutrality they thought they needed a stronger Italy againt communism rather than a stronger buffer zone in between.
The Peace of Utrecht signed by the belligerents in the War of the Spanish Succession, in April 1713, was not completly fulfilled or its provitions lasted a short while. In 1707 Nueva Planta Decrees cancelled historical rights of Calatunya and art. XIII of Utrecht Treaty about devolution of these was never implemented.
you should have made a map of every thing if it was changed
Post WW2 there is a plan to annex Patani, Yala, and Narathiwat, Thailand’s southern most provinces into Malaya by the British.
Bakker-Schut Plan would have meant many big German cities becoming Dutch with its original population being expelled: Aachen, Cologne, Mönchengladbach, Neuss, Kleve, Münster, Osnabrück, Oldenburg, Wilhelmshaven.
It was a really bad plan by some powerhungry people in the Netherlands, most Dutch people didn't even support it at the time, and totday we are all very happy it didn't go through.
It was definitely a megalomanic plan, but dialect was still very prevalent back then. The majority of those people would be able to speak with an administrator from Twente or Limburg just fine, and would be allowed to stay.
@@ifer1280 German and Dutch was already quite different. In the border region they usually spoke both, but if you spoke only Dutch German would be hard to understand. The Dutch and German cultures have grown apart for 5 centuries, they are quite different now.
3:05 imagine a socialist japan like the german democratic republic, i would love to see the anime produced in this country
They won't produce anime. They would produce communime.
@@ZvenoGaming goku fighting against capitalist opression
@@Dionysus784 it won't be Goku. It would be staku (stalin)
"Shinji, get in the robot!"
"No!"
[Shinji is cut down in a hail of gunfire and Eva becomes a one-episode show]
@@ZvenoGaming
Basically, Ultraman King.
Correction: you made the Dutch plan sound a bit more genocidal than it was. The plan was to elevate regional languages in the Netherlands (limburgish and low Saxon) to official state languages. These dialects continue over the German border, and were spoken by a majority of the people in the to-be-annexed area. Very few people with strong ancestral ties to the land would have had to be deported, because all those people spoke the local dialect. Only recent intranational migrants and their children were at risk of deportation.
So it's not 100% genocidal, just 95%. Cool.
Average Eurocock moment
@@kinginexile7139 Deporting germans after the war is fine. People should have followed what Soviet soldiers did to germans as an example lol
@Safwaan well it’s the easiest way to pay back to the Netherlands since they literally pillaged them for 5 years and got rid of the “undesirables” seems like a fair compensation
bruh that french accent you got killed me
Which language does the area disputed between Portugal and Spain speak?
The fight of territory of landscape in World even today. 🌎
Unfinished business, on few occasion, I am glad the plans were never followed.
I think the majority of them are understandably not followed. The Morgenthau plan for instance seems as if it would have been very negative for everyone living in those areas.
The Olivenza claim is not really conflicted anymore and hasn't been for ages. I'm from Spain and practically no one knows or cares about the Olivenza situation and I'm probably sure it's the same for Portugal. As a Spaniard I'm glad we got to keep it though, even if it is a very small territory in a relatively poor region.
As a portuguese person, I couldn't care less about it. From what I've heard, its citizens want to be Spanish. I'm ok with that; let them be happy!
Interesting video.
If Operation Downfall happened at the same time as the Hiroshima and Nagasaki atomic bombs, Japan would have been divided after World War II.
If the Treaty of Sèvres had never been replaced by the Treaty of Lausanne, and the Turkish War of Independence never happened, Turkey would have been divided after World War I.
If the citizens of Saarland voted to stay under French occupation after World War I or World War II, Saarland would either have been annexed by France after World War I or became an independent country after World War II.
If Germany won World War I, it would have annexed Poland and Lithuania, and Estonia, Latvia, Finland, Belarus and Ukraine would have became German puppet states.
If the Morgenthau Plan happened, Germany would have been divided between a North Germany, a South Germany, and an international zone in the Rhineland.
If Spain followed the terms of the Congress of Vienna, Olivenza would have been returned to Portugal.
If the United States accepted the Dutch proposal to annex parts of western Germany after World War II, the Netherlands would have annexed parts of western Germany after World War II like Poland and the Soviet Union did with parts of eastern Germany including Silesia, Pomerania and East Prussia.
I might be wrong, but is the belgian anthem playing in the beginning?
Yes! I used a compilation of Belgian military marches
3:08 If This Triety actually put in effect my favorite Crayon Shin Chan never even came to exist
🐸 Hiroshi from Backward Soviet
Misai from classic British occupation
And Shin Chan Crazy American 😅
Please do a video that what if Indian states broke up please
Another one I didn't know was the plans to annex parts of France after Napoleons defeat. It was mostly the neighboring countries that wanted a piece of France after the war but in the end Britain was against it and instead pushed to have France go back to its original borders.
What about when they were gonna divide Austria, the same way they divided Germany?
How hard did you have to try not to say carved up Turkey?
i have a question. Why do people pronounce turkish states like Izmir Erzurum and Trabzon, in other languages like Smyrna erzerem.. ?
We use the greek or Latin names
Powerful Turkey 🇹🇷✊
Thanks to Atatürk, which creates an independent nation ✊🏻🇹🇷
Allies: "Okay, Now the Great War is over, let's divide the Turkish territory."
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk: "Hold my Turkish coffee!"
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1:26 in alternate universe this map is real.
nice
I'm glad that Japan didn't end up divided.
Japan should thank its lucky stars every day that it didn't lose half the country to Stalin
The European West Anatolia was the only solution for millions of people that unfortunately slaughtered in the end. Europe needs to wake up at some point.
Hahahaha. If the millions of Turks killed during the greek Revolution are accounted for, we can talk about them. Let's not forget that the Aegean Sea turns red for a whole year :/
Wtf there was Belgium's anthem playing in the backround at the begening of the video
whats everyones obsession bringing kurds in everything? in the treaty of sevres those areas are devided in armenian, brittish and french control
We will get the zengezur, erivan too.
As a Turk, I read many comments and I just laugh. Nations that cannot even produce cutlery on their own think that they can take land from us by fighting.
@CuriousGolden korkunun ecele faydası yok mankurt acem.
@CuriousGolden ne güzel kürdsün sorun yok. ermeni acem yunan olmadıgın sürece yaşayabilirsin.
@CuriousGolden Tarihren ders çıkar uyarması benden 😉
Saar : France suck, I'm with Germany.
Also Saar : Independence suck, I'm with Germany.
In Russia, instead of Войне, they use a euphemism which has as many words as war has letters.
what
Diplomats do so enjoy redrawing maps of other countries.....
3:12 the two green zones on the map for UK are island of Kyushu and adjacent Chugoku. Shikoku island is marked as controlled by ROC in purple on your map. . en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C5%ABgoku_region. i understand they sound similar, but you said Shikoku twice
No, he pronounced "Chugoku" as "Shugoku" because of his accent. "Shikoku" was definitely pronounced differently.
Ohh no I could of been Dutch :(, ohh I moved anyways to Amsterdam soo yay
Not a Treaty, but (WWI) the British promised the Arab a homeland if they fought against the Turkish.
"Well, imagine my shock?" - Paul Joseph Watson
Additional info on the Japanese plan, the Korean Republic was supposed to be included as the one occupying Southern Kyushu and Tsushima Island but due to the failure of the supposed Korean referendum in 1948, this led to the Korean War. This is why Korea's occupation of Southern Kyushu and Tsushima did not happen.
What about when Denmark would take back lands from Germany after the First World War?
Anybody else wondering why the Belgian national anthem was playing in the background at the start of the video?
the British commonwealth forces did occupy Japan for a brief period of time
Epa quando vi Valença metida nisto rolei pelo chao a rir sabendo de onde es ehehe mas parabens pelo video.
Maybe they needed better directions
Why did the US say no to the Bakker-Schut Plan?
Its not Constantinople it is Istanbul
Istanbul is from the language of monkeys, Constantinople is the proper name
So there no planned to divide italy ?
After 2 war Italy lost historical italian lands Istria and Dalmatia today in Croatia, but have take south Tirol from Austria
in my Hometown, there were the French to occupy our Region, full of Armenins, Algerians, Blacks and Whites. My Great Grandpa used to tell us, not even the (ethnic) French wanted to fight but only the Armenians. Luckily they chased them out.
E o tratado de Fontainebleau?
Tfw no reconquest of Constantinople, Feelsbadman
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Some of those plans were just postponed