I Bought Every Architectural Software So You Don't Have To

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  • I bought every architectural software so you don't have to. The worst and best architectural software in 2022 including what they cost.
    If you're not careful you could spend $36,000 or more without even knowing it!
    I have owned, or used each one of these architectural softwares at some point during my career as an architect. Now I give you my opinion which architectural software is best for you and your workflow.
    00:00 Intro
    00:34 ‪@twinmotion‬ & ‪@Enscape3D‬
    01:38 ‪@UnrealEngine‬
    02:15 ‪@Lumion3D‬ & ‪@3dsmaxtube373‬
    03:00 Cinema 4D & Vray
    03:20 Best One
    04:00 ‪@SketchUp‬
    04:10 ‪@BricsysOfficial‬
    04:32 ‪@autocad‬
    05:11 ‪@Autodesk‬ & Revit
    06:23 ‪@Archicad‬
    07:32 Which One
    08:00 Get Them Free
    08:52 Outro
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Komentáře • 227

  • @chriszach4098
    @chriszach4098 Před rokem +33

    How can you miss rhino on this list? Its the most important for academics and also the industry standart for competition and digital fabrication work.

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem +6

      Because rhino isn't often used to document projects. It is a conceptual tool that is mainly used for, early concept and then never touched again. But it is a great program none the less

    • @curtismcmillan7255
      @curtismcmillan7255 Před rokem +10

      ​@@DavidTomic If you're advising which to learn, it's probably important to state that Rhino fills gaps in Revit that Sketchup doesn't.
      Revit's native modelling tools struggle with stairs and railings more complex than a fire escape, and Sketchup's meshes don't work as well as Rhino's NURBS solids.
      Rhino lets you easily model and 3D print fabrication or construction detail models, convert assets between weird file formats, and get stuck into the database with Grasshopper.
      It's a swiss army knife that works for both students and Tier 1 firms.

    • @izoyt
      @izoyt Před rokem +9

      @@DavidTomic actually, rhino can document drawings just fine.

    • @choti001
      @choti001 Před rokem

      @@izoyt While I like using Rhino for modeling, it isn't just an industry standard for documentation. Try coordinating with MEP engineers or GCs. You can still find a way to do it, but the workflow would be horrible.

    • @Michu01
      @Michu01 Před rokem

      Only on modeling alone you have much more freedom with rhino. Grasshopper alone its a monster itself that brings sooooo much power to the design process through computational design and with rhino.inside revit you can model on rhino and translate all this geometry to native revit objects, which jumps the gab of remodeling everything again and make a continued workflow between an architecture model and a BIM model and viceversa. In the otherhand, sketchup sucks with interoperability bc it works with meshes and looses a lot of information in the processes. And it's a perpetual license.
      You also miss blender, it's free and it's bringing visual programming to the table too.
      3d max, maya and cinema 4d are widely use for modeling.
      we haven't even touch all the adobe and like programs for graphics too.
      I think architects use way more programs out of this list, not only rendering, mesh model and cad.

  • @gerardofaustin8156
    @gerardofaustin8156 Před rokem +17

    Autodesk did not create rivet they bought it From a group of engineers that created the software for engineers later, they try to integrate it for architecture, which is absolute nonsense. Archicad, on the other hand, was created for architects.

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem +2

      Very true. Also originally created for Mac not PC which is why it's so user friendly

    • @johnkellett7797
      @johnkellett7797 Před rokem +4

      AutoCAD has 'Auto' in the name for a similar reason :-) The original Revit was quite good, AutoDesk bought it to kill it.

    • @ewartleon1
      @ewartleon1 Před rokem +5

      Charles River Software created Revit for architects and designers, Revit was never meant to be an engineering software. I don't know where you get that info, but it's so false.

    • @ecotechnica5975
      @ecotechnica5975 Před rokem +1

      @@DavidTomic what's your workflow for the fast-cut closed captioning?

  • @johnnybigg7772
    @johnnybigg7772 Před rokem +2

    Thanks Dave. Really liking your content. Keep it up. I'll be using a combo of ArchiCAD, 3dsMAX and UE5. I pretty much don't know how to use any of them but I am going to get there soon enough.

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Glad you’re enjoying it mate! And that’s a great combo of software 😃

  • @rajeevprabhu6722
    @rajeevprabhu6722 Před rokem +9

    Their is a lot of confusion in your talk. Please understand the difference between a Architecture Design Package ( CAD or BIM), a 3D Modeling / Animation package, and a Rendering package ( Lighting and texturing included). Lumion and Vray and others like Octane, Arnold..are all for Rendering work and do not compete but work with, rather give the 3 Models a realistic look and movement. So they can work with 3D Max, Cinema 4D, Blender, Sketch-Up, or even Maya, Rhino,....! Twinmotion and Escape may look easy but need a Game Engine to run. AutoCAD, ArchiCad, Revit, and heavy list of specialized CAD pakages from Autodesk are more of Designing packages. They may or may not be used for Architectural Visualisation work / pipeline.
    These understanding, is important, first and foremost.!

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Yes but this is from an architectural perspective.

  • @bshwayde
    @bshwayde Před rokem +2

    If you are actually reading these comments, just know that this video is providing info local to Australia. In the USA, Revit is by far more expensive per year. There is no perpetual license offered on any Autodesk software anymore, so you are destined to be a subscriber forever and subject to Autodesk's ever increasing prices and random license models. Archicad has both perpetual and subscription licenses in the USA and it's quite a bit cheaper per year, especially when you factor in the cost of cloud collaboration software which is basically a requirement to use BIM the way it was intended.
    David's comment is right regarding the steep learning curve of Revit. I first started learning revit in 2009 and still am not 100% confident in it the way I am in Autocad and SketchUp. Also, Autodesk did not originally create Revit. The acquired it because they are basically trying to become an AEC software monopoly. The issue is that in the USA, Revit has weaseled its way into probably 9 out of 10 architecture firms (via AutoCAD) and Autodesk's relentless marketing makes everyone assume that it's "industry standard". They also have convinced architecture schools of this, so unless you desire to think outside the box, you end up using Revit whether or not it is actually a good piece of software.

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      I do my best to read every comment and appreciate yours!

  • @senik64
    @senik64 Před rokem +1

    glad to hear someone not shit on archicad for once! :) archicad user here too, student, learning revit has been an indescribable torture to me for months, i wish it was easier or that i had started with it in since the beginning

  • @robertstrauss6033
    @robertstrauss6033 Před rokem +1

    My budget stack: Blender for design and visualization, and nanoCAD for drafting. nanoCAD has really surprised me as a comprehensive, and very actively maintained alternative to AutoCAD. Pen compatible and looks great on my 2K graphics tablet. Well worth checking out!

  • @takurgaming8005
    @takurgaming8005 Před rokem +11

    "You don't need to spend money, if you know how to crack it"😅

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem +2

      Wait until you get a lovely letter from the manufacturer suing you for mega-bucks. Not worth it IMO.

    • @anwarpalliyalil2193
      @anwarpalliyalil2193 Před rokem +2

      Use blender bro

    • @rajeevprabhu6722
      @rajeevprabhu6722 Před rokem +1

      ... don't tell the secrets....he is selling the modelling, animation and rendering packages to serious Architect s!!🤣

  • @mosheashkenzi447
    @mosheashkenzi447 Před rokem

    Thanks david for your great videos!

  • @chrisk7118
    @chrisk7118 Před rokem +1

    Great info mate

  • @ashtonramdeen
    @ashtonramdeen Před rokem

    Hey there Mate, loving the compare & contrast vids, I personally favor Revit + Enscape, they make a real good combo, take care, hope for some more content!!!

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem +1

      Thanks mate. You'll see a new video every Monday from me!

  • @VIA-studio
    @VIA-studio Před rokem +2

    Woah...why is Archicad so expensive in Australia? I pay around 3.500 € for one ArchiCARD license, which is the all inlcusive option, that can be updated every year to the newest year for around 300 € or you just leave it there with the version you bought. Or Lumion? It only costs 1.500 € per license or 3.000 € for the Pro license. But the Autodesk products on the other hand are cheaper than in Europe. Autocad costs 2.400 € per year and Revit 3.900 € per year, which is incredibly expensive, if you think about the fact that it's only available in the abonnement model. I guess that might be the reason why Archicad is absolutely predominant in Europe (except the UK). It's just cheaper here.

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      That is a very cheap price! Even at the current conversation rate it is cheap. You do get discounts as you add licenses here. If you had a few (unsure of the exact number) it's drops down to about $8.5k AUD which is closer to your €3500. Upgrade fees are about $1500/yr/license though

  • @raphaelbeutler1421
    @raphaelbeutler1421 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the video David! What do you think of this combination:
    - modelling in archicad
    - rendering in twinmotion with a plugin
    Starting my arch journey at eth zurich this september and you have helped me a lot!

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem +2

      Sounds like you're on the right track to a great career Raphael! Best of luck!

    • @thyrandus
      @thyrandus Před rokem +1

      Great choices! Best of luck for your studies, fellow Zuricher.

    • @raphaelbeutler1421
      @raphaelbeutler1421 Před rokem

      @@DavidTomic Thank you I apprechiate it!

    • @furkanturan7492
      @furkanturan7492 Před rokem

      @@raphaelbeutler1421 Hi Raphael! Talking from my education experience, you will need a 3d modelling software to that duo and I definitely recommend you Rhino. You can also add Adobe Indesign and Photoshop there. If you have these 5 tools, you will never struggle with producing high end works. Good luck!

  • @Alan_Tec
    @Alan_Tec Před rokem

    I'm quite new into the Architectural Software and truly SketchUp is really good as a first steps program.
    Great Video.

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem +1

      Thanks mate! All the best with your endeavours

  • @92Faris
    @92Faris Před rokem +3

    Nice software review, although is too bad that you missed Blender. It is advancing so fast that in a few years it would be everywhere in all sort of industries. Beside the fact that it’s completely free Cycles renderer gives you one of the bast results that you can imagine. It basically can compete with Corona and V-ray.

    • @aethylwulfeiii6502
      @aethylwulfeiii6502 Před rokem

      BlenderBIM would actually be useful, Blender on its on for architecture not so much.

  • @markrosenthal9108
    @markrosenthal9108 Před rokem +1

    David, you missed Chief Architect. I've been happily using it for many years.
    1. It has a fast learning curve compared to the other products mentioned here.
    2. It has many productivity features that automate the most common design tasks such as floors, ceilings, roofs, stairs, terrain modeling. The more work-intensive design techniques are only needed for the most complex use cases.
    3. High-quality rendering is built in.
    4. There is a huge library of 3D objects and textures including commercial products from many well known product suppliers.
    5. There is a huge library of excellent tutorial videos available here on CZcams.
    6. Imports/Exports DWG/DXF files. I'm currently working with someone using Revit and we exchange files easily.
    7. Cheaper versions of the product (Home Designer for example) are available with some of the advanced features disabled.
    8. The technical support from the vendor team is outstanding, and the software is frequently updated throughout the year.
    I suggest that you watch some of the excellent videos here to see what I mean.

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Never tried it but will look into it :)

    • @codystarr5779
      @codystarr5779 Před rokem

      @@DavidTomic Agree with Mark, you completely whiffed on Chief Architect. Great program.

    • @ATHENRE
      @ATHENRE Před rokem

      @@DavidTomic Yip Chief Architect David makes Archicad look like hard work

    • @ATHENRE
      @ATHENRE Před rokem

      Love your channel btw

  • @robthewaywardwoodworker9956

    33 years using AutoCad. It's like getting stuck in a biosphere. Very hard to get out of it, although I gave up the upgrade race when they went to the money-grabbing subscription model. Old guy rant, sorry. Using SketchUp and have taught both in college. Love seeing the young students using all the 3D marvels out there. Wish I had the time and patience to learn all that myself.

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      I think it doesn't matter what program you know as long as you know the fundamentals of construction and how to detail, anyone can produce amazing work. Maybe oneday you'll find the time to learn something like revit which is in the same family as autocad :)

  • @CRISTIANARQ
    @CRISTIANARQ Před rokem +1

    The Twinmotion promotion just ended this year for Archicad. Now they have an Enscape offer, of one year free if you buy one year.

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Our twinmotion is forever free with our subscription package. Been free for the past 4 or 5 years now. But good info to note

  • @malikto1
    @malikto1 Před rokem +5

    I think you were remiss in not including Chief Architect in your review. It outperforms Autocad when it comes to 3D rendering, is less expensive, and has a lot of features.

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem +1

      Havent personally tried it out but will look into it!

    • @Reid-Rob
      @Reid-Rob Před 8 měsíci

      I completed my Bachelor of Architectural Design (in QLD) only using Chief Architect, Twin Motion & Photo Shop.

  • @BeYourbestEmpire
    @BeYourbestEmpire Před rokem +2

    We use such building stones to build in our country,how can you use it to build exterior walls with archicad to appear this real?I have tried to find these stones severally in archicad with zero succes.Please help

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem +2

      Just use a textured material and increase the thickness of the wall

    • @BeYourbestEmpire
      @BeYourbestEmpire Před rokem +1

      @@DavidTomic I mean a running bond with building stones,I sent you the message with the pictures in IG

  • @kevinultimate8791
    @kevinultimate8791 Před 2 dny

    Sketchup user, and every time some architecture person sees my work, goes like wow!, you use revit right.
    Sketchup and layout combo are sleeper architectural software

  • @hossamyounso3521
    @hossamyounso3521 Před rokem

    I am restarting my career in Architecture design I have experience in Revit but I am confused what to use as a rendering software , Esncape or Unreal engine 5 ??
    Your ideas ?

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem +2

      Enscape is easier and has good quality result. Unreal has a harder and longer learning curve but created better products. Suggest looking at twinmotion too

    • @hossamyounso3521
      @hossamyounso3521 Před rokem

      @@DavidTomic Thanks alot this is helpful!

  • @ahmedalajeeli9240
    @ahmedalajeeli9240 Před rokem +5

    If I say I am a Blender guy I might get killed here but yall can try it, it's free.
    I used 3ds max and vray for 5 years, now I replaced it with Blender also I got rid of Lumion because blender dose every I want. I have been using blender for 2 years now and it's getting better every year.

    • @randomCADstuff
      @randomCADstuff Před rokem +1

      The only reason I haven't gotten into Blender is because by the time it matures, I'll be too old. I decided to invest my time in Rhino and stick to boring old AutoCAD.
      There's plenty of potential and many promising plugins being developed (including at least one for BIM/Architecture). It just takes a bit of time to get into.
      I might still try it!

    • @SanOcelotl
      @SanOcelotl Před 8 dny

      ​@@randomCADstuffblender is really good for architecture on modeling and rendering, if you want it as a bim software yeah, don't think about it, I personally use Revit and make renders on blender

  • @themessenger8608
    @themessenger8608 Před 2 měsíci

    David let me ask please..im a builder and want to design my own home from foundation up. Im skilled with design but not software. This will be a one time build. The home will have many features such as a walkout basement so ill need piers heads etc. Load bearing lollys...what woukd you recommend for a one time but excellent for presentation to township who by the way does not require an architect seal

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před 2 měsíci

      Archicad is the quickest to learn in my opinion. Revit is the cheapest per month. All have student licenses which you could technically try and get. Sketchup could do the job and it will basically be free but will take longer to document. Depending on what your local authorities requires and what file formats your engineers need too will determine the best software.

  • @calingeorge-teodor4064
    @calingeorge-teodor4064 Před rokem +1

    ALLPLAN is missing from the list and it kinda kicks ass in the amount you can do with just one program.

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Never ever heard of it, sorry mate will look into it and consider adding it to the next one

  • @matsknutsson114
    @matsknutsson114 Před rokem +5

    You could be more clear in the beginning that this is for your country. Maybe the viewer should understand stat. Prices differ in different areas. Archicad as we use is way cheaper than you suggest at least in Sweden. Also for an office of more than one person the question of floating network licenses is crucial. Some soft doesn't even have floating licenses...

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem +3

      My accent usually gives it away, but valid points

    • @izoyt
      @izoyt Před rokem +2

      and he probably speaks in australian dollars. speaking about accent is silly, if we re talking about "international" youtube channel. stop this clickbaits, its so outdated..

  • @michaelhicks8603
    @michaelhicks8603 Před rokem +2

    You missed heaps. Rino and Vectorworks

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Vectorworks isn't very popular in Australia and rhino is mainly used as an early conceptual tool hence why I didnt add it

    • @michaelhicks8603
      @michaelhicks8603 Před rokem

      @@DavidTomic That's interesting. I know a bunch of architectural firms who are using it in Australia as I encounter their drawings a lot. Its also heavely used as the industry standard for entertainment design worldwide, and here in oz.

  • @ericallimah362
    @ericallimah362 Před rokem

    Great content

  • @sanishs7773
    @sanishs7773 Před rokem

    Very informative video, Thank You very much. But loud background music is not only annoying but also making distraction.

  • @brunobordini7696
    @brunobordini7696 Před rokem +2

    I think Cinema 4D has more advantages than 3ds Max in many ways but people don't know much about it! C4D has a direct link (livesync) with programs like Archicad and Vectorworks because they are from the same company! Cinema 4D is easier to animate compared to 3ds Max and it doesn't need all those plugins for animation like Max! C4D has Redshift as native render engine and a much friendlier interface, it's suitable for motion design! And you can use Arnold, Corona and Octane as well!

  • @ShaddeyNNM
    @ShaddeyNNM Před měsícem

    Revit is my baby LOL. I bought a mac last year, thinking that I would never do anything with architecture again, but then this year I got the opportunity to maybe enter the field again... Revit is still not optimized for mac... so I am trying Sketchup.... Sketchup is kicking my butt.... I have to say that I didn't have a hard time learning Revit as I am having with Sketchup

  • @johnkellett7797
    @johnkellett7797 Před rokem +8

    Why have you ignored Vectorworks? I have found it to be the best for me and TwinMotion is free. It also works a lot better with IFC files than Revit does.

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem +1

      Vectorworks isn't used by that many firms here and I personally have no experience with it.

    • @johnkellett7797
      @johnkellett7797 Před rokem +5

      @@DavidTomic , they ought to :-) More cost effective than ArchiCAD and far superior than any AutoDesk product. In fact Vectorworks’s company owns Graphisoft and both ArchiCAD and Vectorworks were based on the same Hungarian core software that had been written by architects for architects (unlike AutoDesk).
      In essence both Vectorworks and ArchiCAD ‘think’ the way architects do, AutoDesk software ‘thinks’ like a computer geek :-)

    • @vladyslav135
      @vladyslav135 Před rokem +2

      @@johnkellett7797 facts dude

    • @GerhardBauer
      @GerhardBauer Před rokem +1

      @@DavidTomic Vectorworks has over 600k User Worldwide, way more than Archicad. Calling this Video "I Bought Every Architectural Software" is a joke.

    • @izoyt
      @izoyt Před rokem

      @@GerhardBauer this guy just try to sell his ass.

  • @artemplatesales
    @artemplatesales Před rokem

    how about edificuis did you heared about that amazing software?

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem +1

      Never heard of this software either but will look into it :)

  • @chriskeentechnician
    @chriskeentechnician Před rokem

    I’ve used ArchiCAD exclusively for the first 17 years of my architectural career. It’s time for me to learn some more about Revit and get hands on with it to expand my skill set. Any advice?

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem +2

      Try find a good course and stick to it. Trying to learn revit with an archicad background is handwork because everything is different. Plenty of good youtubers out there with free courses, check out Balkan Architect as a starting point

    • @johnkellett7797
      @johnkellett7797 Před rokem +2

      If you can use ArchiCAD no need to learn Revit. Revit might be popular but that is never a guarantee of quality or ability.

    • @faresjawad3096
      @faresjawad3096 Před rokem

      @@johnkellett7797 very true

    • @jerardyu9677
      @jerardyu9677 Před rokem

      Watch Balkan Architect

    • @johnkellett7797
      @johnkellett7797 Před rokem

      @@jerardyu9677 , why? I used Revit for 20 years and it could never handle the BIM standard format IFC format files well. In fact the LT version used to (does it still?) strip out all IFC info from every file it opened! AutoDesk have always been more about sales and hype and marketing and rarely about a product truly useable by architects. No doubt very useful for engineers, technicians and technologists, but not architects.

  • @And_Rec
    @And_Rec Před rokem

    The Twinmotion promotion with archicad ended at the end of 2021

  • @artemplatesales
    @artemplatesales Před rokem +1

    another potential bim software is vector work or elite cad

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem +1

      Vectorworks is not often used in Australia for architecture..elite cad I've never heard of

  • @flowupdesign
    @flowupdesign Před rokem

    what about nemetschek vectorworks? or Rhino3D?

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Vector works is hardly used in Australia and rhino IMO is perfect for concept stages only

  • @anwarpalliyalil2193
    @anwarpalliyalil2193 Před rokem +2

    Nice video, but how accidentally you forgot about the Alternative software of 3Dsmax that our Blender😯

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem +1

      I've never owned blender. I've only ever trailed it once and don't have enough experience to provide a genuine opinion on it.

    • @izoyt
      @izoyt Před rokem

      @@DavidTomic you didn't trail anything, since blender is free.

  • @AmanRaiAgrawal
    @AmanRaiAgrawal Před rokem +1

    Rhino didn't make the list? It's almost the cheapest. No subscription model. Includes Grasshopper & other BIM plugins :/

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Rhino is great but it's basically a plugin for very early stage of developments

  • @noogie2182
    @noogie2182 Před rokem

    Maaaaaate, have you had a look at PlusSpec? Home grown software that sits over the top with Sketchup as the "engine" in the background 👍

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Havent heard about it but ill check it out!

    • @faresjawad3096
      @faresjawad3096 Před rokem

      Also Plusdesignbuild for big projects from the same company

    • @faresjawad3096
      @faresjawad3096 Před rokem

      @@DavidTomic it's Australian by theway

    • @daviddimovski9595
      @daviddimovski9595 Před rokem

      @@DavidTomic plusspec actually looks pretty interesting tbh.

  • @ys4448
    @ys4448 Před rokem +2

    Blender (cycles) is free and better then all the render Software and rendering engines that you mentioned, give it a try

  • @roboticroom7283
    @roboticroom7283 Před 16 hodinami

    i'm Revit user and i like ArchiCad more, i want to switch.

  • @ColorBlindArchitect
    @ColorBlindArchitect Před rokem

    I assume the pricing was in Australian dollars?

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem +1

      You are correct

    • @ColorBlindArchitect
      @ColorBlindArchitect Před rokem

      @@DavidTomic, thank goodness. I know what the cost is in the USA and thought maybe your local reseller was ripping you off. LOL. Love your videos. Keep up the great work.

  • @randomCADstuff
    @randomCADstuff Před rokem +3

    The first nobody likes to admit about Revit is that you still need AutoCAD. Autodesk pushes users down the 'AEC Collection' route in order to try and justify the high subscription fees. Most drawings issued to construction sites still have at least a 'dash' of AutoCAD in them.
    The second thing nobody (in an office that is) wants to admit about Revit is that drawings produced in Revit, and the specific nature of the errors in those drawings, create a massive amount of issues on construction sites. It's partially the fault of the users themselves, but the software has some issues. I'm sure same goes for every BIM program out there. I'm just more experienced with Revit drawings and I'm able to see similar errors from multiple consultants which are generally exclusive to Revit drawings (I can tell Revit drawings apart from others).
    BricsCAD BIM: Nobody uses it. Like absolutely nobody. They've paid CZcamsrs to help promote them, but they have very little content on creating actual construction drawings. If you disagree, look up their videos on how to draw a section. It's also not new; it's actually been in development a very long time and hasn't really gone anywhere. Worse yet, it's pulled resources away from the main BricsCAD platform and what was once the best AutoCAD alternative has now fallen behind the other CAD-clones.

    • @jontopham2742
      @jontopham2742 Před rokem

      Revit electrical has had issues for years with no solution in the works it is sad

    • @JacobBanman
      @JacobBanman Před rokem +1

      You absolutely do not need AutoCAD to complete working drawings in Revit in probably 95% of cases (if you know what you are doing and use Revit's tools correctly). I can't tell you how many jobs I have been praised on by construction companies, city planners, ect that were solely drawn in Revit or how many AutoCAD based drawing sets I have had to re-work in Revit because the project was designed incorrectly.

    • @jontopham2742
      @jontopham2742 Před rokem

      @@JacobBanman Jake you are obviously an Architect and in that case yes you are correct. In any other trade autocad is necessary to supplement

    • @randomCADstuff
      @randomCADstuff Před rokem

      @@JacobBanman Well... first off, a project designed incorrectly is independent of the program used to draft/3D model it. That has nothing to do with AutoCAD/Revit.
      My comment about AutoCAD reads "you still need AutoCAD". That doesn't mean they are necessarily using AutoCAD for the actual drawings (but most do), it means they need AutoCAD to open/process/edit other things. After all, you have AutoCAD as part of your AEC subscription, and it gets used. In some situations it's just the best tool for the job. Trying to shoe-horn Revit into doing a task it's not well suited for is a huge reason why office productivity has actually gone down in recent years.
      As far as the "praise" you've mentioned, I've seen the complete opposite: Most work done in Revit is garbage. Most BIM technicians don't understand the projects they work on as well as their 2D drafting predecessors. This is becoming a bigger and bigger problem every year.

    • @JacobBanman
      @JacobBanman Před rokem

      @@randomCADstuff then the BIM technicians you have worked with are the problem, not the software itself. Anyone skilled enough in Revit can accurately model almost anything without requiring access to a CAD file; is it sometimes nice? Sure, but it is not really "required" as you say it is.
      Yes there are quirks in the software but I have yet to run into something I was not able to solve solely in Revit.
      I almost never use CAD these days; I still have it on my system but I bet you it's been over a year (probably closer to two) since I have actually opened or used it.

  • @dennismasese4987
    @dennismasese4987 Před rokem

    I have to ask, what are the specs of your PC?

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Currently running an m1 ultra Mac studio. Previously had a maxed out custom built pc

    • @dennismasese4987
      @dennismasese4987 Před rokem

      @@DavidTomic I'm currently using an Omen 16 but Im struggling with Lumion Livesync to render my 4th year project. Any advice to sort this out will really be appreciated.

  • @TheBakoba
    @TheBakoba Před rokem

    If I am not mistaken, Autodesk did not create Revit! They bought it at some point to capitalize on it.

  • @Simon-Simon-Simon
    @Simon-Simon-Simon Před rokem +1

    many top firms are using SKETCHUP then pass onto drafties on AUTOCAD or REVIT
    all about speed and getting to council and clients ASAP for residential then if your on government projects some stipulate REVIT

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      All depends on where in the world you live. All of these programs are used by firms just in what order and how frequently is the difference. Sketchup is very popular for basic design

    • @faresjawad3096
      @faresjawad3096 Před rokem

      U can document using layout for sketchup

    • @Simon-Simon-Simon
      @Simon-Simon-Simon Před rokem

      @@faresjawad3096
      I know I use it for quick development concepts all good . But firms are still using autocad LT and multiple programs some have there details in autocad and engineers all on autocad and surveyors
      You may have designers and few guys on sketchup and presentation side of things
      I have autocad LT revit LT sketchup pro and VRAY

    • @Simon-Simon-Simon
      @Simon-Simon-Simon Před rokem

      @@DavidTomic
      I have seen top Melbourne firms job adds
      SKETCHUP AUTOCAD REVIT
      all in the one Instagram post and spoken to few firms and have worked 30 years in building and worked in firms
      These days you have to be multi skilled it's like a draw full of pens they all work differently
      I can see most concepts on Instagram by firms sketchup the line work and surface painted and vegetation it's so quick in vray

    • @faresjawad3096
      @faresjawad3096 Před rokem

      @@Simon-Simon-Simon OK just take a look at the 3dbascsmp 2018 .. title big cad in sketchup , and c the transition and how they save thousands of dollars and cut the time by 70% faster .

  • @harvscorvettemotorcycles1912

    Chief Architect wasnt even mentioned. Chief Architect I have used for the last 10 years

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem +1

      Chief architect isn't very popular nor have I ever owned it personally so I wasn't able to add it to this list :)

    • @harvscorvettemotorcycles1912
      @harvscorvettemotorcycles1912 Před rokem +1

      @@DavidTomic Take time to use Chief Architect, take a serious look at it, it may change your mind.

  • @peroniop
    @peroniop Před rokem

    What about Allplan?

  • @rajeevprabhu6722
    @rajeevprabhu6722 Před rokem +1

    I have seen a number of Architects submitting construction designs drafts / blueprints with 'Trial' or ' for Education Purpose only' watermark s of these softwares. Clients are concerned with the design, looks and shape, ..of their project, not how the design was created... ethics aside!!

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      If you are a registered architect, where the term architect is a protected title, like in Australia, you cannot put ethics aside. Clients want good quality designs yes but they also want professionalism. Seem these watermarks has negative connotations for the entire industry IMO.

    • @aethylwulfeiii6502
      @aethylwulfeiii6502 Před rokem

      Well they are concerned with how long it took you to make it and what to be sure that your elevations plans, renderings and schedules are all related to each other. Without human error. Maybe you drew 300 windows in AutoCad but on your schedule you wrote 280. Then maybe on your elevation you drew 260. That’s why BIM exists and AutoCad should be abandoned quickly.

  • @HyperMonkey599
    @HyperMonkey599 Před rokem

    We use Microstation for architecture

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Havent personally tried it out but will look into it!

  • @yokoxanime2610
    @yokoxanime2610 Před rokem +1

    I use enscape and Autocad because free for student.and i use fake sketchup

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      You can get most of these for free as a student :)

  • @roarcgroup3077
    @roarcgroup3077 Před rokem +3

    How can one miss rhino. Man I'm disliking for that alone 😔. 💀 How can our industry be blind to such an amazing software it gives you the total freedom from drafting to modeling . Better than sketchup and and other drafting softwares.🤦‍♂️

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem +1

      Damn a whole video disliked just for that.. harsh 😂

    • @roarcgroup3077
      @roarcgroup3077 Před rokem

      @@DavidTomic yea because when can we move forward if we don't improve our tools.

  • @alastairdallas
    @alastairdallas Před rokem +1

    You missed Chief Architect.

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Never used it / paid for it so couldn't include it

  • @mbengagbor5996
    @mbengagbor5996 Před rokem

    I wish to get in touch with you if you may permit

  • @samsonbishop
    @samsonbishop Před rokem

    Twinmotion rendering is having far realistic rendering comparing to lumion because of the path tracing. Go and check it

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Twinmotion has improved significantly as of late, yes

  • @Marina-vu2vi
    @Marina-vu2vi Před 8 měsíci

    PLEASE TALK MORE ABOUT V RAY

  • @bradzimmer239
    @bradzimmer239 Před 8 měsíci

    You also missed Chief Architect.

  • @niileshsk2213
    @niileshsk2213 Před rokem +7

    Imma pray that you financialy recover from this lol
    Also great vid like usual 😂👍

  • @CADigitalCity
    @CADigitalCity Před rokem +1

    twinmotion is free for some of us, we got lucky with the promo they offered us when it was bought into unreal guys

  • @swandasims
    @swandasims Před rokem +1

    What about Chief Architect?

  • @izoyt
    @izoyt Před rokem +1

    I just must comment this (i know it is clickbait, but still):
    Every architectural software? Architects usually have decent dose of intelligence and experience (students included), so please, no more of this childish click baits.
    - if we start with architectural "bim" software, how about Allplan, Vectorworks (owned by same group as Arhicad, for f sake), Acadbau, Edificius, Archline.xp etc..?
    - Bricscad was primary substitute for autocad 2d, after that it evolve in quasi architectural bim sofware. also., there are many other Autocad "clones" after Autodesk's exclusive rights on cad software code expiries.
    - There are many other rendering software worth mentioning. If we are talking about price, than for sure Blender should be at the top, then also something like Artlantis (which can be very good at interiors with ray tracing without heavy price and learning curves of pro packages like 3ds may etc), then 5D render etc..
    And finally, why always this talk about Revit, it looks like you kind of apologising to them for using Arhicad?? We all know they were late to the game and try to copy or outshadow archicad/graphisoft (at that time), why you need to sponsor autodesk in this way? They have enough money ripping their costumers, so why not properly support Arhicad instead, specially of you make paid youtube content based on arhicad videos?

  • @stevencirile
    @stevencirile Před rokem

    Well you didn’t do your homework, Datacad LLC, is the Only software that’s been around since 1981 that was specifically designed for architectural work, and is still privately owned by an actual architectural firm! How’s that for specific. It’s reasonable per year-it integrates with sketchup pro, and as far as modeling for architectural work-sketchup pro is simply hands down the best-and renderings!- sketchfx-and Bentley Lumenrt Pro. Yiu need to look no further. Revit although widely used, is a waste of time and not the most productive soft to much front end loaded input required.

  • @romyratefiarivony2067
    @romyratefiarivony2067 Před rokem +1

    I thought Twinmotion was totally free if you have an epic games account

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem +1

      Nope. You can get a free trial but it's not free. If you have an epic account and an archicad license it is

    • @romyratefiarivony2067
      @romyratefiarivony2067 Před rokem

      @@DavidTomic okay, thank you David 😁

  • @sugarkiddo
    @sugarkiddo Před rokem +4

    And I'll get paid $35,000 a year after spending all this money🥰✨💅

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Depending on your skill level, country, if you're the business owner, etc you could get paid a lot more in architecture.

  • @AkanoeFerreira
    @AkanoeFerreira Před rokem

    Personally, i dont think you can put lumion and 3dsmax on the same tier. They dont perfom the sane task. Same as in cinema / vray.
    Also. Blender does It ALL for free

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Guess I better learn blender

    • @AkanoeFerreira
      @AkanoeFerreira Před rokem

      @@DavidTomic Lol, in a world where we are charged thousand of dollars for specific softwares, and as you already mentioned in previous videos the amount of knowledge that architects must have nowadays.... Yeah, learning a great and free software shouldn't hurt! I deleted sketchup, max from my modeling workflow... and i still render at twinmotion and sometimes D5 (that you forgot to mention - also have a free tier!), for the ease of use. But yeah, blender is a very, very, very good software for modeling and rendering, also huge community, great amount of plugins and resources.... 😄

  • @chrisiliffe7479
    @chrisiliffe7479 Před rokem

    hmmmmm Archicad in USA is $7000-8000 for perpetual licence....not 10K +

  • @52thephotoshop
    @52thephotoshop Před rokem

    Revit is barely fit for purpose an absolute basket case of a software package still missing key usability features after decades. Yet we are stuck with it.

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Nobody is stuck we all have a choice :)

  • @boxoffisa
    @boxoffisa Před rokem

    I am getting archicad today.

  • @xpresstv7689
    @xpresstv7689 Před rokem +1

    y'all be paying for software?? i have been using ArchiCAD and sketch up since 2008 and i have never paid a dime.

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Google the fines associated with it and you might reconsider...

    • @xpresstv7689
      @xpresstv7689 Před rokem +1

      @@DavidTomic i am fully aware of the fines associated with using the software illegally.....

  • @daviddimovski9595
    @daviddimovski9595 Před rokem

    Team Archicad all the way. The rest are just toys.

  • @BehnamCAD
    @BehnamCAD Před rokem

    I share it

  • @KillYourMaster666
    @KillYourMaster666 Před rokem +1

    be smart about it. Pirate that shit :)

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Just google what the fines are and tell me if it's worth it. Especially when you run a business and the liability is through the roof not just the monetary value of the fines.

  • @aadilameermia9531
    @aadilameermia9531 Před rokem

    Twinmotion is completly free if you create a epic games account

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Not sure where everyone keeps getting this information from because this is not the case in Australia.

    • @rndll.
      @rndll. Před rokem +3

      @@DavidTomic These people are mistaken. It WAS free when Epic acquired Twinmotion and made it free for the "early adopters" for a few months, which is what I have. Though I think the free updates will end with the 2022 version as I understand it.

    • @bemnetsileshi5222
      @bemnetsileshi5222 Před rokem

      @@rndll. you’re right I had been downloading the latest version since 2019 and I have never been asked to pay for it… hopefully it continues forever😅

  • @lasaraz5826
    @lasaraz5826 Před rokem

    the listing is pretty bad, 3ds max is a modeling program that has plugins like Arnold or any other like corona vary or any render engine! if you compare or put both 3ds max and lumion at the same level you are doing it wrong!

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Wasn't putting them at the same level just the next category. Video would have gone forever if I broken down every program individually. But you are indeed correct

  • @dp_antitecture
    @dp_antitecture Před rokem +1

    I have everything cracked for freee

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      Just wait till you get that lovely letter from their legal team. Not worth it

    • @dp_antitecture
      @dp_antitecture Před rokem +2

      @@DavidTomic εδω ειναι ελλαδα φιλε

  • @dyfrigshandy
    @dyfrigshandy Před rokem

    BLENDER !!!!!

  • @rennycepeda6576
    @rennycepeda6576 Před rokem +1

    I just pirate all of them

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      I'd be very careful if I were you... google the fines and reconsider

  • @maxwellwallman2571
    @maxwellwallman2571 Před měsícem

    Chief architect??

  • @nebal7978
    @nebal7978 Před rokem

    I did not like the video at all. You did not mention the three most important programs. One of them can do everything that Autodesk programs do. You are just advertising for the companies that pay you and say that you are advising students. I recommend the Rhino program, in addition to that it comes with Grasshopper inside, a program that can do everything in 3D, 2D, and Parametric Design. In addition to the completely free Blender program, which includes the Render Cycle engine, one of the best and fastest engines, and all this for free

    • @DavidTomic
      @DavidTomic  Před rokem

      I did not get paid to make this video, this was simply one man’s opinion and you’re entitled to yours of course.

  • @choti001
    @choti001 Před rokem

    Bah, Revit and AutoCAD aren't that bad. It just takes practice. Using software isn't even the hardest part of practicing architecture.

  • @GeorgeNicola
    @GeorgeNicola Před rokem

    A bit not on point :)))))

  • @jolu1621
    @jolu1621 Před rokem

    No rhino ? Thumbs down

  • @No-cc1fq
    @No-cc1fq Před rokem

    Mfer who use blender 😭