Would Haymitch have volunteered for Peeta in Catching Fire?
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- čas přidán 8. 07. 2019
- Hi friends! Today we dive into Catching Fire, and look at Haymitch's agreements to Katniss and Peeta.
Haymitch promises both Katniss and Peeta that he will do everything in his power to protect the other. Additionally, he promises Katniss to volunteer for Peeta if he is reaped. We never find out if Haymitch would have kept his word, as he ended up being the mentor after Peeta volunteered in his place. Obviously this is great for the rebels and their plan, which begs the question, was this the plan all along?
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Fun fact: Haymitch is the only tribute in the history of the hunger games to be reaped for two Quarter Quells. The odds were never in his favor
Very true!
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“May the odds be never in your favour”
@@goodnight-moon564 word.
i literally never thought of that
I believe Heavensbee set it up for Haymitch to be reaped, knowing peta would volunteer, therefore keeping Haymitch as mentor to help coordinate. Like I've said before I don't believe the reaping is ever truly random.
Poor little Haymitch! Had to be reaped for 2 Quarter Quells, lost his ally in his first Games, AND almost had to volunteer! I feel bad that some people think he's weird, but I think he'd be a cool Mentor!
He’s honestly very resilient all things considered
"Okay, didn't think so."
*casually tosses notes over his shoulder*
I love Haymitch so much!
I love that part
Great analysis! It's definitely possible that some reapings were rigged by the rebels in Catching Fire, hard to say how many though
Thank you!
I think all of them were rigged because how did brother and sisters get together, The two hiders got choose together, Beete and wiress, and Annie and finnick. And they never said anything about volunteering for anyone but Annie and haymitch.
That makes sense!
@@StoryDiver The brother and sister volunteered, not reaped.
@@doldfamily9983they didn’t volunteer, at least there is no such information. but they tried to stop the games, so they prolly were not happy about the third quarter quell either. Moreover, it is possible that the Capitol rigged theirs cause they were quite popular
If peeta did know, he might have told the capitol under torture.
Very true!
I know its a little bit late but let me say Peeta would have NEVER said anything
@@negargeliyerdi3766 he would never say anything because he wants to protect Katniss, the love of his life, he would die for her
He would not have been in the Capitol. The same as Haymitch now.
@@reiniernn9071 he would be in the capitol because he is Katniss's weakness and the capitol will use Peeta against Katniss
Effie has a slight hesitation before she reads it, and we know Effie -even if she doesn’t know it- kind of wants to protect Haymitch. So what if she read his name, knowing Peeta would volunteer, so Haymitch would be “safe” in the Capitol.
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The finnick and anne because they know she has trauma from going into the arena and putting them together would make her probably lose her mind
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I don’t really know how many victors there were from district 6 but it could be that the morphlings reaping was rigged since they both happen to be similar to each other. Same could go for cashmere and gloss but they probably volunteered since they are career tributes.
That makes sense!
Riot Society Fan cashmere was crying of the fact that she was reaped so she didn’t volunteer
@@njgtribe9504 and his brother said they were going without a choise
I wonder if calling Annie’s name was apart of the plan, so that Finnick could make sure she was safe. Maybe Mags wasn’t supposed to volunteer
I never thought about Haymich having to volunteer but you did a great job at explaining what would happen. Also, maybe in the future can you do a character spotlight on Finnick?
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I think a fair majority were rigged in the 75th Games, and wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the other games were tweaked to be more interesting.
Gale's name is in 42 times but Prim's is only in once?
Cashmere and Gloss were reaped together?
Finnick and Annie were reaped together?
A LOT a lot of the tributes were a part of the rebel forces.
What actually ARE the odds?
And the rebels absolutely would not have left Haymitch and Peeta's reaping up to chance.
I *almost* feel a little pity for Brutus, volunteering to be in what he had no idea was never a real Games to begin with.
Gloss and Cashmere might have volunteered?
@@emiyes4667I don’t think so because then they would have to see each other die because they are not stupid, the 2 victor trick is not gonna work again
I think that the 74th was rigged, because it litteraly says, (I didn't read it in English, since I am only 50% English and 50% Dutch, and my Dutch cousin lent it to me, so I don't EXACTLY know what it says) 'Your name is only in there once, you won't get reaped.', and then to have a twelve year old girl, who is quite weak and wouldnt be able to defend herself be picked, is quite 'suspicious'!
It is very suspicious indeed!
It wasnt rigged, what are you even talking about
I mean, that is how random chance works. Her name was only in there once, so the chance was very low. But not zero
Cashmere and gloss, the odds were not in there favor. It was definitely rigged for them to go into the games together
Wow 😮 I have not thought about it before and now I am completely confused but I think that Haymitch would’ve volunteered but that’s why I’m glad Haymitch was reaped. This video was great 👍 keep it up!
Thank you! I’m glad you enjoyed it!!
It being rigged wouldn't be a huge surprise but if it wasn't I feel like Haymitch would have volunteered. He could be closer to Katniss and the other tributes so he could have a better chance of protecting her. Also if he kept his promise then Katniss may trust him more which may help her be more open to allies. I feel like they had 2 plans depending on weather Haymitch or Peta was in the games. If Haymitch was in the games he would protect Katniss and some of the other people would tell Peta the plan asap.
I think Effie knew the Rebel plan and she had to say "Haymitch Abernathy" knowing that Peeta would volunteer as tribute so that Haymitch can work with Plutarch and the Rebels. That's just my thought...
the choice could be rigged. it may be possible that Haymitch's name was on both labels because they knew that Peeta would volunteer to be in the arena with Katniss
It's possible!
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I feel like maybe Haymitch told Effie enough about the plan so she wold agree to say his name regardless as to what name was drawn, especially with the way she says Haymitch in the film where she hesitates with the h as if she’s either considering wether or not she should lie about the name
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Effie lied about who was on the slip of paper
That’s interesting yeah she may have been forced by someone to read a certain name because I doubt she would on her own she was very fond of Peeta and Katniss
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it's entirely possible that plutarch rigged haymitch's name into the bowl twice because the rebels were aware peeta would want to volunteer to personally protect katniss. After all, he did set many other things up for the sake of the rebel plan. But considering the way Haymitch reacted to Peeta volunteering, maybe even Haymitch wasn't aware of this. Either that or the odds really were in their favor.
I think Finnick, Annie, Beetee, Wiress, and Haymitchs readings were all rigged. The Capitol wanting Finnick to go back in but for him to be at a disadvantage. Reaping Annie makes Mags go in, putting Finnick at a physical disadvantage. Beetee and Wiress were smart and would help execute the plan. Haymitch needed to guide Katniss and they needed Peeta to make Katniss look better. The baby bomb could have been Haymitchs idea so that they get more sponsors and Katniss is seen as an unfortunate soul in the districts and reminds people of the pain the Capitol puts mothers and their children through
Ugh! Peeta is such a burden why did he volounteer. Why does he think he can protect katniss, more like she protects him. The amount of times katniss has had to save him in the arena, its ridiculous.
He protected her by making sure haymitch was the mentor, who had known the other victors and could work behind the scene
I think Annie’s was rigged so mags could go for her
Yes, because he doesn't want Peeta to watch Katniss die right in front of him
I agree but since he loves Katniss he would’ve wanted to protect Katniss at all costs
Could you do a video on what would happen if Prim was reaped for the 75th hunger games? Maybe it could be some sort of plot by Snow to scare Katniss and make it so no one could pin the blame on him.
Katniss: You hafta volunteer for Peetah
Haymitch: Okie
Effie: Peetah Mellark!
Katniss: (Looks at Haymitch)
Haymitch: SIKE
What would happen if the person u volunteered for actually wanted to go into the games,like who would they choose?
They choose the volunteer
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But what happens if more than one person volunteer?
Like if someone volunteer for the name that is pulled, but a third person got involved. What happens then?
Do they pick the last person? Is there a vote? Flip a coin?
Michael Sayavong i have a video that covers this called “Volunteering explained”
Could you do a 'what if katniss killed finnick' please
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Tbh I don't think Peeta would've agreed to play part in the war. Coin *sent* him the capitol. He didn't volunteer like most of them.
Also if Peeta was reaped and Haymitch did volunteer, let's be honest he would've gone *insane*
Maybe if Haymitch was chosen, it wouldn’t matter too much since I feel like this plan has been made before the 75th hunger games. The plan might have started after Katniss won, or they already learn what snow wanted to do for the third quarter quell, since he wasn’t happy with her and Peeta winning. (Idk this is just my theory)
All of them otherwise the tributes that knew the plan may not have been reaped.
I was thinking about the reaping for the male tribute for the 75th games, would the 2 slips of paper have haymitchs name on them so that peeta would volunteer for him so haymitch would be mentor and help with the rebel plan, if that makes sense.
Can u upload "What if Katniss didn't volunteer for prim in the reaping" next
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Cashmere could have become a problem and her and Gloss’s death would silence her and their family.
Enobaria would provide great entertainment while killing someone who was rebellious
Almost everyone else were rebels
Peeta helps promote the star crossed lovers
Katniss and Johanna had to
The Capitol wanted Brutus to win
The 75th games were def rigged like considering 1 and 4 have larger victor pools the probability that cashmere and gloss then finnick and annie are slim. Then the fact that a lot of tributes were personally punished by the capital and were rebellious.
That crap rigged. How exactly did Cashmere and Gloss, siblings, and Annie and Finnick, couple end up reaped? Seems rigged to me
I think that cashmeres reaping was rigged, in the book haymitch says “I was the sample the one to hold up to the your finnicks and johnnas and cashmeres” maybe this has to do with her being slightly rebellious? So maybe instead of being put in by the rebake she was put in by snow
i’m certain that the 74 reaping were rigged (and many games prior to it) however i genuinely don’t think/know if the 75 reaping was rigged; seeing as it was literally a 50/50 shot either way haha. either it was a “real/genuine” reaping, or haymith & effie (possibly even plutarch) colluding in order to ensure that haymitch did NOT get reaped (seeing as both haymitch and peeta would’ve volunteered for the other). ig we’ll never know hahaha
For the revolution to begin ,it was imperative for Haymitch to recruit the previous victors behind the scenes to help Katniss in the arena. Haymitch couldn't accomplish that if he was reaped...so it was all planned out by Plutarch and Haymitch for Haymitch to be on the sidelines helping..so the reaping was most likely rigged for Haymitch to be picked, knowing that Peeta would surely volunteer to be with Katniss. Haynitch knew all along he wouldn't have to volunteer since the reaping was rigged for Peeta to volunteer.
I saw this thing on Pinterest where the final, symbolic Hunger Games were going to happen, and Katniss was supposed to tell Snow's granddaughter she would be in it. Snow's granddaughter is surprised and happy about this, which Katniss finds strange. The granddaughter tells Katniss that the people are chosen before the reaping, basically saying that the Hunger Games are rigged. Its probably not canon, just something interesting I thought i'd share. If you want the link to my Pintrest, just ask, although its most likely buried under the millions of other pins i've saved recently.
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@@uiomen8815 it was like, just some text with (maybe) a picture of Katniss or Snow's granddaughter bellow.
I dont think it was rigged
Why did nobody but mags volunteer for Annie, district 4 is supposed to be a career district, therefor should have a lot of victors
Mags volunteered because she would die soon anyway because of her age. The others had their lives still ahead of them
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Isn't Katniss' mother and the mayor's wife sisters? And isn't their mom Haymitch's partner in the hunger games? I kinda didn't understand what I read
It was definitely rigged...the star crossed lovers being reaped would’ve been absolutely horrifically dreamy for the Capitol