Thank. Youuuu. My biggest pet peeve in instructional videos haha. "How to cook steak?" "Let me start with the 40 minute history of the relationship between people and cows."
I'm using a Kaplan Premium Dark Rosin, which seems appropriate for my Cello since those are some thick strings. It's a Synthetic Rosin that's super sticky, & will facilitate playing the instrument.
I know what not enough rosin sounds like. But i play tagelharpe. And rosin is very necessary. But I have no idea if I have too much. No video is showing an audio example of too much rosin. I'd like to know.
@@sting1111 since posting 2ys ago, I realize that violins and other inst. have a very narrow expectation of what they should sound like. Making it easy to learn by ear what is ‘normal’ even ‘pleasing’. In the case of baroque music, instruments of antiquity, and magical purposes I believe the decision is up to the artist. Try listing to Kobyz of the northern steppe to hear what is possible with technique and rosin. Also some Romanian folk traditions have amazing nuance based on rosin and bow placement.
Some correct points but the resin doesn’t work in the way described. Hair has small hexagonal plates on its surface which looks a bit like a saw blade under an electron microscope. If you try and bow a string with clean hair, those plates will simply lay back onto the body of the hair and then spring back up as they pass the string. Resin accumulates and ‘sticks’ under these plates and prevents them from laying against the body of the hair. If you put too much resin on the hair the resin then is active in gripping the hair and you will get an extra sound produced which is similar to ‘white noise’ or a shushing sound. To start rosining a freshly rehaired bow with new glossy surfaced resin. Rub quickly over a two / three inch length of hair to generate some heat and break the glossy surface of the resin. Once the surface is broken extend the small area further along the bow until you get to the tip. Once there is enough resin on the bow you only need two strokes of the resin every three to five three hour playing sessions. One final point some bass players like myself use the same resin for violins, violas and cellos. We call that powder resin. The resin Taylor mentions we generically call sticky. I have a customer, an international bass soloist who can play on a bow with no resin at all., but not in concert.
Did you seriously felt like copy and past this from Google just to hopefully sound "cool", while doing a poor attempt at trying to make the guy in the video sound dumb.
Christian Aguilar Hi Christian I am sorry you felt that that was my intention. I do not feel that I have belittled the guy but I do not think it useful to promulgate incorrect information as seems to happen hourly on the internet. In the late 1970s some electron scanning microscope pictures were taken of hair both clean and resined by one of my customers whilst a postgrad student at Imperial College in London. The resultant images explained for the first time the true function of resin. I did not cut and paste the text as you suggested and i would be interested in the location of the text I am supposed to have plagiarised. In case you were wondering, I am the fourth generation of stringed instrument luthiers and restorers. I could expound on how a violin actually works as I have seen some partial correct explanations and frankly utterly incorrect ones on the internet but I am not sure that knowledge gained was the intent of your comment.
Thanks for the science lesson :) I miss more physics facts: 1) That is, after playing, the resin should be wiped off both the strings and the fingerboard. Why not from the lacquer surface of the violin? Some claim that the resin dust will blend into the lacquer on the top of the violin if it is not wiped off. 2) Since the resin is applied to the entire area of the hair, what happens to the resin dust there, since the ringing only takes place on one side of the hair? How does the rest of the resin work in those hairs that are not involved in producing sound?
Thanks for this video. Question: What should be the "feeling" of a properly rosin-ed bow? How much "grab" should exist? Should it feel "gritty" like wet fingers rubbed across the surface of a balloon? Or, should there be no "gritty" feeling at all, just enough rosin to create sound? I can't seem to keep a bow in contact with a string at one contact point only UNLESS I have enough rosin on the bow to create a feeling like the wet finger on a balloon. Plus, the sound seems better. Any advice would be appreciated.
I think it is time you corrected this video Whilst a lot of double bassists do use ‘sticky’ resin others, like myself (I play both as an amateur and professionally), use ‘powder’ resin in fact Artcraft No7. One of your products. I am a luthier and the fourth generation in my family as a dealer, restorer etc. The resin does not or more correctly SHOULD not work in the way described. Hair is not “smooth” although the grades of hair are described as smooth to coarse and in Germany by ‘Mustang’ and ‘stallion’. Hair has hexagonal platelets which stick up from , and along the hair stem. When hair has not been resined; these platelets are pushed almost flush with the hair stem and it is difficult to make the instrument sound. I have one customer, an international bass player who can play with no resin at all! When resin is applied in the correct quantity, it ‘sticks’ underneath these platelets preventing them from being pushed flush to the hair stem. The result is a little like a saw blade and that is what makes the sound. If too much resin is applied then it does cover the surface of the hair and you will get a white noise type of sound overlaying the fundamental note and overtones. This has other detrimental effects like resin accumulating on the strings and the front of the instrument as can be seen on the violin in the video. The gentleman is correct in saying you should clean the strings after playing but you should also clean the area around the bridge. Assuming you are playing for three hours a day my recommendation is to put two strokes on once a week or even two weeks. You should not resin every time you play. The initial resining should apply more and I suggest resining quite quickly to break t through the gloss of a new resin and new hair and only for three inches near the frog. Once the resin starts to take you will feel the resistance change and then you should work the resin higher up until you get to the head or tip of the bow. When the new hair on the bow is first resined, you will have too much on but within half an hour the excess should be ‘bowed’ off and then the two strokes a week regime can be implemented. One other point. Please do not try and clean the hair of the bow. Generally, hair will only need cleaning when an excess of resin has been applied over a period of time. Some methods I have seen implemented have been relatively benign but others have damaged the bow, occasionally splitting the head by water getting into the head wedge.
I got a all purpose (good for Violin Cello and Viola) light rosin. Does the rosin matter or is the all purpose good for cello or its better a cello specific rosin? Its d'daario.
But what happens when you chip your rosin with the frog does it still work? I keep chipping my rosin with the frog and I thought it wouldn't do anything.
This may seem like a counter-intuitive or even stupid question, but is there any validity in trying to apply some rosin to the side of the bow hair that does NOT contact the string? Would doing so, if a way can be found to do it safely, ensure the bow is adequately rosined, or would it just be more trouble than it is worth? Maybe it is a sign of personal idiosyncracy, but i have never heard anyone else raise this question.^^
I got this exactly same round ddadario rosin that he used to demonstrate. Should I rub while rotating the round rosin so it doesn’t eventually create a big deep straight indentation and make the sides go to waste or something ?
No move it in a straight line. You can change the direction across the rosin before you draw the bow but do not rotatethe rosin as you draw or you can break the bow hair by twisting it
Your bow might not have enough rosin on it. If you did put rosin, and the violin is still not making a sound, is the bridge in? The bridge is a small piece of wood under the strings that stands on top of the body of the violin, in between the fingerboard and the tailpiece. If the bridge isn't in, the strings won't have enough tension and there won't be anything for them to rest on. If your bridge is in, are the strings tightened enough? If the strings aren't tightened, there isn't any tension to make the strings snap back into place to make the sound. If not any of these, is your bow tightened? If your bow isn't tightened, the strings won't make a sound because the strings will just give way to the completely smooth wood under the bow hairs, which will make no sound.
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That violin is gorgeous
you're not
@@jacamileshaikp.7488 tyyyy
@@jacamileshaikp.7488 Lol to think u are?
@@jacamileshaikp.7488 what a clown
@@SP-wi8uy don't listen to ignorant kids, everyone is gorgeous in their own way:)
Video starts at 2:46
Thank you
Thank you 😊 it helped A LOT :)
Actually the most interesting part was before that.
Thanks
Thank. Youuuu.
My biggest pet peeve in instructional videos haha.
"How to cook steak?"
"Let me start with the 40 minute history of the relationship between people and cows."
600 grit sandpaper takes the shine off and still keeps the surface smooth as paper.
I use bass rosin for my violin and it's amazing!
who cares?
I'm using a Kaplan Premium Dark Rosin, which seems appropriate for my Cello since those are some thick strings. It's a Synthetic Rosin that's super sticky, & will facilitate playing the instrument.
I have Dark Kaplan Primium Rosin. Dark Rosin Facilitates good technique. Synthetic Rosin helps alot.
You helped me out thank you
This video was really helpful!
Great info 🇨🇦🙏
I'm brand new to playing a stringed instrument (cello). Can you give an example of a 'fluffy' sound and a 'gritty' sound?
I know what not enough rosin sounds like. But i play tagelharpe. And rosin is very necessary. But I have no idea if I have too much. No video is showing an audio example of too much rosin. I'd like to know.
you sound gritty
@@Iranianjunkie A person on CZcams said that if you see a cloud of rosin dust when you are playing, you probably have too much.
@@sting1111 since posting 2ys ago, I realize that violins and other inst. have a very narrow expectation of what they should sound like. Making it easy to learn by ear what is ‘normal’ even ‘pleasing’.
In the case of baroque music, instruments of antiquity, and magical purposes I believe the decision is up to the artist.
Try listing to Kobyz of the northern steppe to hear what is possible with technique and rosin. Also some Romanian folk traditions have amazing nuance based on rosin and bow placement.
Some correct points but the resin doesn’t work in the way described. Hair has small hexagonal plates on its surface which looks a bit like a saw blade under an electron microscope. If you try and bow a string with clean hair, those plates will simply lay back onto the body of the hair and then spring back up as they pass the string. Resin accumulates and ‘sticks’ under these plates and prevents them from laying against the body of the hair. If you put too much resin on the hair the resin then is active in gripping the hair and you will get an extra sound produced which is similar to ‘white noise’ or a shushing sound. To start rosining a freshly rehaired bow with new glossy surfaced resin. Rub quickly over a two / three inch length of hair to generate some heat and break the glossy surface of the resin. Once the surface is broken extend the small area further along the bow until you get to the tip. Once there is enough resin on the bow you only need two strokes of the resin every three to five three hour playing sessions. One final point some bass players like myself use the same resin for violins, violas and cellos. We call that powder resin. The resin Taylor mentions we generically call sticky. I have a customer, an international bass soloist who can play on a bow with no resin at all., but not in concert.
But the video's about rosin.
Did you seriously felt like copy and past this from Google just to hopefully sound "cool", while doing a poor attempt at trying to make the guy in the video sound dumb.
Christian Aguilar Hi Christian
I am sorry you felt that that was my intention. I do not feel that I have belittled the guy but I do not think it useful to promulgate incorrect information as seems to happen hourly on the internet.
In the late 1970s some electron scanning microscope pictures were taken of hair both clean and resined by one of my customers whilst a postgrad student at Imperial College in London. The resultant images explained for the first time the true function of resin.
I did not cut and paste the text as you suggested and i would be interested in the location of the text I am supposed to have plagiarised.
In case you were wondering, I am the fourth generation of stringed instrument luthiers and restorers. I could expound on how a violin actually works as I have seen some partial correct explanations and frankly utterly incorrect ones on the internet but I am not sure that knowledge gained was the intent of your comment.
Thanks for the science lesson :) I miss more physics facts:
1) That is, after playing, the resin should be wiped off both the strings and the fingerboard. Why not from the lacquer surface of the violin? Some claim that the resin dust will blend into the lacquer on the top of the violin if it is not wiped off.
2) Since the resin is applied to the entire area of the hair, what happens to the resin dust there, since the ringing only takes place on one side of the hair? How does the rest of the resin work in those hairs that are not involved in producing sound?
Very clear explanation. Thanks.
Thanks for this video. Question: What should be the "feeling" of a properly rosin-ed bow? How much "grab" should exist? Should it feel "gritty" like wet fingers rubbed across the surface of a balloon? Or, should there be no "gritty" feeling at all, just enough rosin to create sound? I can't seem to keep a bow in contact with a string at one contact point only UNLESS I have enough rosin on the bow to create a feeling like the wet finger on a balloon. Plus, the sound seems better. Any advice would be appreciated.
For me, it’s a thick sticky-ish feeling on the horse hair, but this is for a thicker bow
thank you for making this video definitely needed to know this!
Johnny rosin up yer bow and play your fiddle hard!
I think it is time you corrected this video
Whilst a lot of double bassists do use ‘sticky’ resin others, like myself (I play both as an amateur and professionally), use ‘powder’ resin in fact Artcraft No7. One of your products.
I am a luthier and the fourth generation in my family as a dealer, restorer etc.
The resin does not or more correctly SHOULD not work in the way described.
Hair is not “smooth” although the grades of hair are described as smooth to coarse and in Germany by ‘Mustang’ and ‘stallion’.
Hair has hexagonal platelets which stick up from , and along the hair stem. When hair has not been resined; these platelets are pushed almost flush with the hair stem and it is difficult to make the instrument sound. I have one customer, an international bass player who can play with no resin at all!
When resin is applied in the correct quantity, it ‘sticks’ underneath these platelets preventing them from being pushed flush to the hair stem. The result is a little like a saw blade and that is what makes the sound. If too much resin is applied then it does cover the surface of the hair and you will get a white noise type of sound overlaying the fundamental note and overtones. This has other detrimental effects like resin accumulating on the strings and the front of the instrument as can be seen on the violin in the video. The gentleman is correct in saying you should clean the strings after playing but you should also clean the area around the bridge.
Assuming you are playing for three hours a day my recommendation is to put two strokes on once a week or even two weeks. You should not resin every time you play.
The initial resining should apply more and I suggest resining quite quickly to break t through the gloss of a new resin and new hair and only for three inches near the frog. Once the resin starts to take you will feel the resistance change and then you should work the resin higher up until you get to the head or tip of the bow.
When the new hair on the bow is first resined, you will have too much on but within half an hour the excess should be ‘bowed’ off and then the two strokes a week regime can be implemented.
One other point. Please do not try and clean the hair of the bow. Generally, hair will only need cleaning when an excess of resin has been applied over a period of time. Some methods I have seen implemented have been relatively benign but others have damaged the bow, occasionally splitting the head by water getting into the head wedge.
Lol my music teacher sent me this
Very Informative
I got a all purpose (good for Violin Cello and Viola) light rosin. Does the rosin matter or is the all purpose good for cello or its better a cello specific rosin? Its d'daario.
But what happens when you chip your rosin with the frog does it still work? I keep chipping my rosin with the frog and I thought it wouldn't do anything.
This may seem like a counter-intuitive or even stupid question, but is there any validity in trying to apply some rosin to the side of the bow hair that does NOT contact the string? Would doing so, if a way can be found to do it safely, ensure the bow is adequately rosined, or would it just be more trouble than it is worth?
Maybe it is a sign of personal idiosyncracy, but i have never heard anyone else raise this question.^^
Bassists use a Dark rosin too.
What do I do if I put to much rosin
Merci. Pouvez-vous faire la même chose mais en français ?
I got this exactly same round ddadario rosin that he used to demonstrate. Should I rub while rotating the round rosin so it doesn’t eventually create a big deep straight indentation and make the sides go to waste or something ?
No move it in a straight line. You can change the direction across the rosin before you draw the bow but do not rotatethe rosin as you draw or you can break the bow hair by twisting it
Rosin in a straight line and the next time u use it twist it
Expected a lot more class in the comments on a video like this. I guess CZcams is CZcams no matter the corner you're in.
Beautiful lady 💞
That violin looked like a Fiddleman double concert violin
I’m new to violin
Practice!!!
I will
My new violin isn’t working 😡😡
Your bow might not have enough rosin on it. If you did put rosin, and the violin is still not making a sound, is the bridge in? The bridge is a small piece of wood under the strings that stands on top of the body of the violin, in between the fingerboard and the tailpiece. If the bridge isn't in, the strings won't have enough tension and there won't be anything for them to rest on. If your bridge is in, are the strings tightened enough? If the strings aren't tightened, there isn't any tension to make the strings snap back into place to make the sound. If not any of these, is your bow tightened? If your bow isn't tightened, the strings won't make a sound because the strings will just give way to the completely smooth wood under the bow hairs, which will make no sound.
time to burn it
@@jacamileshaikp.7488 Only true evil people would say such a thing ! ;( lol
probably not worth the 20$ lol
Buy a violin thats not on amazon
Holy mouth sounds, brotha needs to drink more water bc he's DEHYDRATED
Hi thx I have a grand child and she was crying because she thought she broke it lol thx again
damn she started that company?
Qhy do you say that?
anybody here for school purposes ?
No
Brianna Burton yesss
He sounds like Kermit the frog
i thought so too lol
the background music should fade out at 0:11, back in at 4:47. please change that immediately. thank you.
The girl, she moves too much, no need to be so out there.
She looks like she's 5-6 weeks pregnant :D