🤔 Grout lines. calibrated and rectified tiles explained.
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Grout lines. calibrated and rectified tiles explained. Grout lines, what is the right size for your tile Every tile job has to include a grout line between the tiles, picking the right size grout width is very important. The wrong width will make an otherwise nice tile job look bad. When deciding on a grout line there are a few things that need to be taken into consideration, you don't just pick a size and go with it. You have to determine the size of the grout spacing by the size shape and uniformity of the tile. If the tile you are installing is rectified, then a narrow grout space is a good option, however narrow grout lines may not be a good choice for tiles that are only sorted by caliber. Tiles have a dye lot, a gauge and a caliber, these are very important considerations that need to be considered when picking a grout width. In this video I explain how to decide on a grout line width. All tile installed by Sal DiBlasi, Elite-tile Company, in the Boston North Shore area. This video contains affiliate links, which means I will receive a small commission if you click on the product link.
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Don’t listen to the “videos too long” complaint. Big fan here from north of the border. 🍁
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Same side of the border...I need the longer videos
Great video, I’ve had so many clients ask me “Can you just but the tile together? I don’t like grout” Nope I cannot do that! If you dislike grout so much pick a different type of flooring
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Same here Sal, make your videos as long as you need, I am a huge fan educating myself (well your educating me 😃) in prep for a total master bathroom upgrade! Thanks buddy!!
Side note that can effect grout lines is that most caliber tiles have arrows stamped on the underside and its important to point them all the same way due the the tiles being slightly out of square. Its the difference between a straight line vs slowly wondering grout lines over long runs.
Thanks Sal !!
I have been trying to explain this to my customer’s for 30 years.
Same here, most will listen if you can back up what you say.
Would be easier to explain if you show pictures of how it looks with too narrow lines and normal lines. Handwaving isn't the best way.
Anyone complaining about the video being too long. I recommend watching it in 1.25x speed.
I did a shower with similar tiles to the one in this video. One thing I struggled with was getting my rows to stay level. The tiles were so irregular I couldn't use one spacer size. I ended up using a 1/8" spacer and a lot of shims. So the joints really varied. Explains to the customer that they couldn't be stacked was a task lol
Thanks for sharing your experience and wisdom.
My pleasure!
Your videos are not long, we learn
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Keep up the good work and the ppl who really like your videos love the longer detailed work.
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Thank you for sharing the knowledge
You bet!
Great videos, my first time laying tile
I'm a brick layer i can do stone, brick, you name it, but i suck laying tile , looks easy when you do it ,
believe me I Learn something new every day watching you videos, thank you for sharing you knowledge
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Thank you. Very informative. Learning a lot from your videos.
Glad to help
I love it when the homeowner tells me, the guy at the box store said “these don’t need grout” you can butt them tight together 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
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Just seen a job using very large format floor tiles with the thinnest "grout" line I've ever seen. Maybe 1/32"! Looks like they butted them up and squeezed out the thinset out to act as a grout.
Surprisingly all the lines are dead straight and no "run out" due to variations in tile dimensions. With tiles that size I would think any minor size differences would show.
Do most tile boxes say what kind of tile it is ?
Thanks Sal
The people who complain your videos are too long are probably the same people who don't read let alone own a copy of the TCNA handbook and whose work quality installers are constantly having to correct 😉
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Is there a benefit to having the 1/16th grout line in a shower? Does it matter in a shower? I tend to see smaller grout lines on shower walls but would like to know if this is simply an aesthetic thing or proper construction technique.
I luv your passion! And thank you for the advice.
You are so welcome!
Great video... Have you made a video about coping with these tile size variables on the job...micro shimming to level etc.... Such a great informative channel.. I have learned so much.. thank you.
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well explained.even I know now.thanx
You are most welcome
Excelente trabajo señor sal
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Those thin slivers of tile on the one side of the floor would do my ocd in completely!
I'm seeing tile from floor and decor that are Both Caliber & rectified for same tile! Any difference with that and using 1/16 grout lines on shower walls and bathroom floor? 12x24 Caliber and rectified. Same tile except shower walls are polished and floor isnt.
I bought glass subway . Can those be 1/16 or do you think 1/8 looks better ? Thanks
Man i was hoping you would make of video on this subject
Actually di another one about a year ago czcams.com/video/1CGgMTJsqGI/video.html
I'm tiling a bench with 600*600 rectified edge tiles that only share 1 edge with the next tile. I know you said no to going without grout but this might be an exception?
Also sealing the top with epoxy
Sal great info. Just got marble rectified hex tile installed on shower floor but it is uncomfortable to step on in some areas. What did the installer do incorrectly? Is grout too shallow?
Without seeing it, can't really sy, my guess is you have lippage, some tiles stick up.
@@SalDiBlasi I pushed a dime across the floor surface and got caught in several areas. Been watching your videos, wish you were out in California so I could hire you. Can the tile be smoothed out by grinding and polishing or needs to be replaced?
Sal, if you don't mind a newbie question wanna do this myself, what is the size for your hexagon shower floor mosaic?
Mosaics come in sheets, the grout line is predetermined by that sheet.
I am getting tile installed for kitchen backsplash. Installer said he will be butting tiles tightly together and then grouting. Sounds weird to me
Minimum grout line is usually 1/16" However there are some specialty tiles that can be butted.
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2mm for natural stone because just done marble 12x30 inch and they can be out few mm
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I have used a 1/32 grout line works fine
So you didn't understand the point of the video.
Obviously the video was about which grout lines to use. You also stated dont use less then 1/16 lol which is possible to use 1/32 which is less then 1/16 lol i clearly understood
Obviously you have no clue what the minimum standards are and that it is in the TCNA handbook. Minimum grout line in any tile installation is 1/16. You can use 1/32 if you like, but it will not meet proper standards whether it works or not.
@@SalDiBlasi then they should stop selling 1/32 spacers lol big bags on the shelves. In Illinois they even sell grout which states 1/32 grout lines . It may not meet requirements but most home owners dont care . No cracks no complaints
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8ths and 16ths always,,FAT JOINTS ARE FOR BURGER JOINTS ;) We all love you Sal !
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So it states Ceramic and stone tile. What about Rectified Porcelain?.
That's exactly what I'm interested in - Rectified Porcelain.
Really excited that this topic is being covered by Sal as I've been thinking about it recently and want to learn all about "the most dimensionally consistent/perfect porcelain tiles"
Porcelain tile are a type of ceramic tile.
All porcelain tiles are ceramic tiles, but all ceramic tiles are not porcelain tiles. Tile type is defined by the amount of water it will absorb.
Non-vitreous (Low density) - Tile with water absorption of more than 7.0 percent
Semi-vitreous (Medium density) - Tile with water absorption of more than 3.0 percent, but not more than 7.0 percent
Vitreous (High Density) - Tile with water absorption of more than 0.5 percent, but not more than 3.0 percent
Impervious (Extremely dense) - Tile with water absorption of 0.5 percent or less. This is where porcelain tile is generally categorized
@@SalDiBlasi Wow thanks for that very detailed break down. Didn't know there was a rating system in place for how Porcelain tiles are categorized outside of rectified or not.👍
@@SalDiBlasi Sal - incredibly grateful for this explanation. It's exactly what we needed because there is confusion about what a porcelain tile is.
Because they are both made of the same powder people think they are the same.
My understanding, before reading your explanation, was that porcelain tiles were "super compressed" ceramic tiles with a very low water absorption. I didn't know about the different categories or water percentages.
Looking for grout size recommendation instead get to learn the history and origin of Big Bang.
WHY are the people complaining your videos are too long watching too long ...? they have choices; watch it in parts, stop watching, watch the vids, learn something, and stop the moaning. Good grief, no one is forcing you complainers to do what you complain about doing ...
You just can't make everyone happy, there will always be complainers and trolls.
The more irregular the tile the larger the space.Many customers just can't grasp this..
It seems simple
Why do they make 32” spacers?
believe it or not, there are many tile installs that don't meet TCNA specs
Just because they make them, does not mean you have to use them.
@@SalDiBlasi If they didn't make them, people would use something else to get 1/32"!
No such thing as a Sal DiBlasi video that's too long.
Grout lines are not always necessary.
According to the TCNA they are, and the minimum is 1/16"