This Grouting Mistake will Ruin Your Tile Job
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Was just getting stuff together to grout a kitchen back splash with the UltraColor when this video popped up in my youtube feed. So I just took my time and did small sections and then worked the grout and cleaned the tiles without getting to far ahead of myself. The job came out great. So glad I found this video, Thanks.
Hi ,I am an experienced tiler 32 yrs tiling in NZ and use Ultracolour.Just mix enough grout to do one wall at a time,start sponging down what you started after 10 minutes even if you are still grouting,just stop and do it,then carry on grouting.after you have sponged it down twice ,wait 20 minutes and buff the tiles with an old towel.
That’s good advice that’s what I do if you don’t wipe it with a towel it can leave a faint haze on some tiles
Ive been tiling 16 years, and this is exactly how I grout shower stalls. Timing works out great. Id rather sponge it a little early than a little late
Good advice. This is great grout but you can only do small areas at a time. I work this grout out of a 2 gallon bucket so I don't mix too much at once. It is nice because it doesn't wash the color out.
Sounds really inefficient.
@@SirenaSpades you think so? Try doing more than you should at one time, then come back and tell us how inefficient it is after u spend 3 times as long scraping and scrubbing dried grout
This type of video may be the single most important for us DIYers. The 'you-need-to-know-this-or-you'll-ruin-your-job' kinda video. Love it! Thanks!
So true!!!
I just made this exact choice! I'm a first time diy'er and was like oh great I don't have to deal it! Luckily I had an assistant to help keep things clean. I didn't read the instructions carefully. And it worked out well for me, luckily.
Thanks, Jeff! I just used Ultracolor on our shower floor - my first grouting project ever. I very nearly returned it, but your video and the other comments made me feel like I could use it if I treated it with the care and respect it deserved. I watched this three time before I started. Because your video described all the ways it could go wrong, I was able to use the high-tech stuff and have it come out wonderfully. This community you've built is fabulous!
Did you grout with 2 people? Did you grout entire floor at once or in sections. Thought I'd give it whirl but trying to cover possible problems. Thx
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@@seekhimwithallyourheartand3358 wtf
Jesus ain't gonna be happy if you fuck the grout up
@@seekhimwithallyourheartand3358 will he help me with my grouting...I very much doubt it.
Huge thank you for posting this! I had already purchased this grout for my bathroom project and given my limited tiling experience, I worked on small sections at a time anyway. This stuff dries wicked fast but I knew what to expect because of your post and everything turned out beautifully. But I silently thank you a few times while working on it!
Jeff is so right here. I was surprised how fluffy and light this new "tech" grout is. I had my doubts, but it really does dry fast and hard. I also had a helper mixing small batches for me as we both worried it would dry fast as we put it down, and boy did it. Great stuff, but don't underestimate it!
OMG, I'm so glad I checked this out. I bought this grout, actually read the directions, and came looking for one of your videos just as a refresher. This isn't my first bathroom tile job, but I'm FAR from an expert. Time to head back to the store before I ruin my bathroom floor. Thanks, Jeff!
First time working with tile here, thank you for the warning Jeff! I ended up still using it after careful reading, prep, and someone to help sponge the area (though it was entirely feasible to do it on my own). This grout worked like a charm and I had plenty of time to grout my backsplash (3x5' area) without worrying about drying too quickly. I think it probably took me about 30 minutes to grout, wipe, sponge, and clean up. I even bagged up the still wet excess grout before throwing it in the garbage. For reference, I mixed the 10 lb bag with 1 liter of cold water, and the a/c was at 68 Fahrenheit (it's Louisiana in the summer so I was cautious). If you're a beginner like me, are doing this solo and prefer to take it easy and have some leeway, definitely use the Keracolor, however it's totally doable with this grout you just have to be prepared. I bought the Ultracolor grout without realizing the differences to regular grout, so I'm very happy I found this clip when I was researching this project.
Jeff, I've just grouted all three of my shower bath walls using Mapei Keracolor grout (Cement Grey) and I did a really good job - thanks to watching one of your videos several times over! Many thanks Jeff for all the help & advice you offer on your brilliant DIY channel. Because of you, I have a lovely bathroom & a very happy partner! Keep up the fab work mate. Yours is always THE first CZcams channel I go to whenever I need DIY advice. All the best from across the pond in England Jeff & good luck - stay safe.
You just saved me! Bought the hi-tech stuff and was going to do my bathroom this weekend. SO glad I subscribed!
I used the ultracolor FA in both my bath and laundry space. Its not that bad to work with. That said, pay attention to working times. Get it grouted and get it off. Even the film. Its great grout, worth the hassle. I have no film, chunks, left over anything from the grout. And I learned how to do it from Jeff.
Glad I could help!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIYJeff I owe you a big thanks. Did my whole basement off your instruction. Framing, electrical, drywall, tape + mud, texture, trim and tile. Everything but carpet. Inspectors all said they thought I hired it out. So your program works, I am proof. Saved a fortune. Cost half if not more than hiring it done. All that equity is now paying for our dream home being built as we speak.
Same here! Whew that wouldve been horrible after spending all the time on the herringbone floor we are doing 😬
I'm inexperienced. I used ultracolor. I did a pretty good job, but the color didn't come out. I would recommend following this guys advice
Never done much diy but the way this dude teaching and demonstrating makes me feel confident l can do whatever he teaches. He is honest and sincere in sharing his knowledge for poor people like me, god bless you,great job.❤.
Thank you so much. Your videos are so pleasant in their delivery and information. Pls don't change!
I'm a DIYer who used this product this last weekend. if I hadn't watched this video beforehand and followed the warnings, I would've mixed the whole bag in one shot, made an enormous mess, and ruined a huge tile job. Watched this video, followed the warnings, broke up the job and the grout into smaller batches. Thanks Jeff!
How do you like the result?
@@LVCID777 love the results, wish I had trusted the product and instructions more. They know EXACTLY what needs to be done to have it look perfect. I fiddled a bit much and ended up putting in more work than was needed.
As long as you didn’t end up with coloring issues you did good.
Did you add a sealer to it after grouting? I grouted my shower and not sure if I should still seal it?
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I'm so glad we have you to help us Jeff so we don't do things wrong and have it cost us alot more to fix it.
I like this guy hjonest strait to the point
Saw this video because it’s what I purchased. Scared, I looked up application of this grout to be educated on it. I ended up using it, and in a 4’ x 3’ section saw exactly what you were talking about. Now, experiencing it first hand I was able to move quicker in smaller sections for the rest of the job. Came out beautifully! But absolutely, if you are a noob, and wait too long, forget it! Great product if you know what to expect. I would have screwed myself big time if I didn’t see this video first and do my homework. Love this channel! Thanks!
WARNIN TO ALL!!
Yes Jeff!!! You are absolutely right!!! Unknowingly (used what the tile place sold me and didn't read the instructions) I used ULTRACOR PLUS....now I'm trying to figure out how to clean off the grout off of the tiles I didn't wipe off in time!! To top it off, it is a textured flat white tile.
The only thing I find that works is using a scraper/jack knife and a lot of elbow grease!!! Damn 😡😡
I have done tiles in the past but didn't realize the difference in the products. BE SURE OF WHAT PRODUCT YOU ARE USING!!
Thanks for all your videos! Keep up the great work.
You know, on CZcams there are so many people that you’re not sure of, but you then find a really great gem, and you just get on board with it, because you know that they *really do know* what they’re talking about, and this is one channel you can trust! Wild applause all round 🥳 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
100% how I feel too! He's like the handy uncle I never had. 😀
Cheers!
I don't even care that he's Canadian that's how awesome this guy is! 😂 no really tho as a 2 year in self employed contractor I have to say that a thank you couldn't cover the debt of gratitude I have for the knowledge I've gained from this channel. 🙏
I love your approach to teaching. Straight-up honest but honestly caring. I can watch your long a$$ videos and thoroughly enjoy them, but these small PSA-type videos are direct and just super as well. Thank you for being the DIY big brother I never had. Cheers!
Awesome! Thank you!
This information needs to be inserted in front of all your grouting videos. My first tiling experience ended today with this grout. WoW. I thought I was slow but now know the grout is super fast to set! I got it all on and then had to work with a wet sponge to soften before using the float. All is good and I'm very happy with the results. I watched many of your videos and couldn't have done this without your hints and directions!
I wonder how many people you saved by making this video! You are seriously the best tile DIY on CZcams, hands down! THANK YOU!!!!
My wife and I used the Ultracolor on our sunroom. So glad that we were working on it together. We were barely able to clean the tiles where we first applied it. Fortunately the floor looks great. I based all our techniques on your other video on grouting. Thanks for the great content!
Jeff! You are the best! I have learned so much from your video's! Anytime I decide to tackle a project, yours are the first videos I watch. I love that you're so real and honest! And you always make me chuckle! ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
I need to add one more thing for anyone seeing this. If you bought a new home, or had a tile remodel done, don’t take it for granted that the installer used grout sealer (unless you actually witnessed it). Many don’t bother and you won’t find out that they didn’t until your grout ends up looking dirty and is very hard to clean. Many installers use unsealed grout because it’s cheaper and they have longer working time. They often don’t go back to seal it because that’s more time and expense and they know most people won’t think to ask. If you’re not sure if your grout was sealed, you can usually tell because if you get it wet, it’ll look slightly darker than the dry grout and won’t repel water. Take the time and effort to seal it when you’ve just moved in and your grout will stay nice looking for years. I wish I knew this years ago!
There are contractors that care, unfortunately they cost money and take some looking to find. I understand the skepticism but if someone reaches the point of working for free or it costing them money to work on your project it's kind of hard to care after that point. I've been there and it's a defeating feeling. Hope the tile jobs go well :)
@@Blingdung We have to import foreign labor.
Bleach it, then seal it if it's moldy
@@KoolT you shouldn’t have to use bleach if your grout is sealed well, plus, bleach will eventually degrade the grout and expose you to fumes.
I think I've used every grout sealer that's ever been on the market - feels that way anyhow. My favorite hands down is Aquamix Gold - fwiw
TY for this lesson! I’ve been repairing grout in my house lately and thought it was all the same stuff. Now I’m going to look more closely at the bags the tile guys left behind. Thx!
I just did my first floor job where I needed grout this past weekend. I didn’t watch this video beforehand and I did use the high tech stuff he said not to use. I am a beginner and it worked great! I think the part that made it work was that I watched other videos on how to grout and the best advice I got was to do small areas at a time. Mix small amounts of grout so it’s all used up in one or two sections and for each section, clean it. I only made about 1/2 to 3/4 of a quart at a time.
WOW! YOU PROBABLY JUST SAVED MY BUTT WITH THIS INFO!!!. I grout tomorrow for someone who hired me and I didn't know about this grout. I read the directions religiously but your sir, have amazing timing as far as I'm concerned. I will be mixing small batches and getting it done with a new mindset now. Thank you very much!!!
You can also wet (lightly!) the tiles down before using the rapid setting grout, it'll save you some time. If you have a problem with it getting too hard find a spacer or tooth brush butt to score excess grout out, as long as they are the size of the grout joints or slightly bigger.
I’m an experienced DIY guy. Know enough to do most projects, but I always benefit from watching Jeff’s videos.
I actually grouted a large(ish) shower area using this very stuff today.
I do have experience in tiling and grouting but as I haven't done any for quite a few years I decided to only mix half a bag and not the full bag as the instructions suggested. I am so glad I did. You are absolutely correct Jeff, it goes off VERY quickly!!!
I was working at my sister's and used two bags on the job but towards the end I had a right sweat on and was really up against it!
Fortunately I managed to get the stuff off and get the joints looking exactly as she wanted them but do take note viewers!
Great information Jeff, I only wish I'd watched this last night!🤣🤣🤣
I absolutely love your videos, they are extremely informative and passed along excellent information. I recently used your tutorials and installed a new tile shower, here is the outcome. Keep up the great work we really appreciate it!
Thank you, Thank you for your video. I just had this product placed in my cart by the Lowes Associate as it is two in one step grout and sealer. This subway tile kitchen backsplash is my first tile project, so I am going to go back in the morning and get the simple grout for us mortals and DIYers. Thank you for posting this.
Thank you so much for this tip!! First time attempting tile and grouting and I would have bought that one. I used the one you suggested and it worked beautifully. After sponging off a few times I buffed the glass tiles I used with a soft t shirt and they now shine. I actually just finished and have a gorgeous backsplash!!!
Thanks Jeff. Your videos are a great resource of information. I often have my workers watch your videos as they are informative and well-presented. .
Hahaaa! 3:11, "A lot of you guys out there, I know you're not reading the instructions, so I'll read them for ya!" Never a truer statement said! 😅
could do a channel and just read instructions on it. Cheers!
I do read the instructions but I understand it much better when some read or tells me all the details 😃
My Dad always says "when all else fails, read the instructions"
Ah! When we buy something in my house, first thing we throw away are the instruction book and the warranty list and then we're trying to figure out how to unfuck ourselves, I tried to overcome that, but there is no help so far ha
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY I like the channel idea of reading the instructions! Some people are visual Learners others learn best by reading something themselves (like the worded verison) and some people learn best by means of audio. And then hey there's always all of the above lol I know the grout that I'm about to use just has pictures and I'm videoing this whole first time DYI thing which includes reading the instructions allowed but knowing nothing about grouts I'm not sure what they're doing in the pictures so my narration I've been told so far has been quite comical. Accurate but comical. And vulgar I've been told, but only by one person 🤣🤣🤣
This kind of video, especially from you, is one of the best of it’s kind! Absolute beautiful example of what I’m coming to CZcams for
Glad you enjoyed it!
These are the videos I need 😍😍 i like to know about everything before I start a job, what to do and more importantly what NOT to do. I know I want to tile my kitchen and bathroom but i also know I have a lot to learn before I begin and honestly Jeff. YOU THE MAN! ❤️
This is savior Jeff. I am thanking God that I found your video. I am literally about to start my grouting job in hour. The person in Lowe's recommended this very grout for reason being it doesn't need sealing. OMG - Had I not seen this video, all my bathroom renovation that is on its last leg to completion (not to forget very expensive mosaic tiles that my wife picked and I installed) would have been ruined. Can not thank you enough !!
I’m glad I watched this video. I did small sections at a time. I applied the grout and went in with a sponge to clean almost immediately. Turned out great.
"one wall at a time" saved my bacon. Thank you Jeff!
You literally just saved me from making a huge mistake! I was watching one last video before grouting my shower as a DIYer... Using the Ultra color grout... Thank you a million times over!!
Just finished my first tile project, a 20sf guest bathroom floor. I used this product and it worked great. BUT I took the warnings here seriously, read the instructions, and watched other videos on it. One said it’s critical to mix slowly. Followed the instructions and tips (including your tip to keep some for later!), and everything turned out great. Absolutely love your content… literally the best out there.
“This has so much technology in it, it will blow your mind!” 🤣 I love this quote
Thank you!! They sold me ultracolor at the tile store and I was about to do my grout! I’ll return it and get the other one. This saved the tile I worked so hard on!
I had already bought the Mapei Ultracolor Plus FA Grout, but because of the superior qualities I decided to keep it and just stay ahead of it while tiling my shower stall, wall by wall. Thanks for the tip, this was extremely helpful.
I was about to use that product to grout my bathroom floor this afternoon and happened upon this video. I think I’m going to exchange it for ‘beginner’ bag. Thanks for the save!
It’s amazing stuff but I was only able to grout half a wall at one time. Your videos helped me so much renovating my bathroom
Great job!
I'm a beginner. I tried kerapoxy on a warm day! Had to rip off two walls of tile. Bit more research done after that fiasco! Thanks for all your great videos, I watch them all the time before my diy jobs. You're great, keep up the good work 👍 Mike
This is the mother of all disclaimers and apparently a well needed one. Great information!
Jeff - You are awesome. I don't remodel too much, but I may subscribe just because you are a wealth of experience and knowledge that I find entertaining AND useful. Thanks!
I just seen this literally a few hours before I started ! Phew!!! Thanks for sharing your skills and advice. Great cameraman work too👍🏼
The same applies when adding a polymer to grout or even using epoxy grout. You need to get it off QUICK or you’ll spend 5x the time trying to get it off than you did applying. It’s worth using even for beginners IMO - just have your grout stuff and your cleaning stuff ready (5 gallon bucket of warm water, sponge, microfiber towel, scrubby pad) then set a 5-8 minute timer (depending on how warm it is outside, warmer sets quicker) and only mix a small amount at a time (probably enough for a 4’x4’ spot). Once the timer goes off start cleaning it from where you first started, then mix more grout again and repeat. It will probably take 3x as long (a few hours for a shower) but in the end you’ll have a better product!
Thank you Jeff! I just purchased what I thought was the ideal color grout at the local big box tile store and did not consider setting time, etc. It is a bag of Ultra Color Plus FA! I will return this and get the old school type, as this will be my first full shower grouting experience. Thank you so much!
OMGOODNESS thank you, I was watching this video while my husband was putting that grout on the wall. You actually saved us, I ran to him and told him what you said and we were able to get it off the wall. I ran and filled three buckets of cold water and kept changing the water with clean water as he cleaned the grout off the walls. Thank you again 🙏
The Mapei ultra colour Plus FA is a great grout. It's supposed to be waterproof, and is rated for pool and outdoor use. It is more demanding to work with (shorter work time, have to keep up with the sponging) but when it's done right, it looks great and performs great. For a tiled shower floor, it's excellent. I don't know if I'd use it for a backsplash but for a shower, it is a great option if you have patience and are focused.
Lifesaver video! Not bold enough for tile just yet. (Also not ready to do the bathroom just yet). Thanks Jeff.
You bet!
Advice like this is a lifesave,and as money is getting scarcer,good guys like him save people and waste a lot of problems,cheers
Mate👍
Yup- just about to start my backsplash so wanted to rewatch my tutorials and came across this video. I got the high tech stuff because it was the only one in the color I wanted. So glad for this video- I’m taking it back because both my husband and I agree we don’t want to risk it on a first time project.
In my country we have Ultracolor Plus (without the "FA") and it's really easy to work with. Few tips i can give as an amateur that redone all of his apartment by myself and used this - work on small areas like 5 sq./m at a time, don't live big mess when grouting use as much material as needed, when starting cleaning use a sponge that is a little damp you need the water to soften the grout and form your tile gaps properly after that use more dry clean sponge to remove the rest and finally use clean microfiber cloth for perfect finish. You will be done in no time. :)
I just did a bathroom and this exact thing happened, it took a acid grout remover to get it off and a lot of scrubbing with a diamond pad, what a nightmare! Wish I woulda saw this a month ago. Kitchen is next and I’ll definitely be more prepared! Thank you for all your videos I’ve learned so much! You have a great philosophy towards projects and tools!
Same happened to me but we did the entire flooring of our home. I’m going crazy over here trying to take this stuff off!!!
I had the same problem and didnt read that it was fast drying. I worked hard to scrape off the grout while it was drying and keeping it wet. I got most of it off before it set totally but the lines are not even. I think ill have to get some acid remover and work on it more. Lessen learned the hard way.
Same here. Was about to use similar product and was worried about the fast drying time. Thank goodness been watching a number of his videos. Thank you for making them.
Thank you for reading the distructions for me. I would have waited until I was done with the job. You're a lifesaver, hoss.
Lucky for me, you got that off your chest! Because tomorrow I was going to grout the tiles for my backsplash and this ultrawhite plus is what Lowes told me to get, and it’s my first time tiling. So I’ll be taking this back because I need a lot of time.I have been able to do a lot of renovations in my home by my self thanks to you. I search your channel for everything I need to know. A big thank you to you!
cheers judy
Ditto here with Judy. Bought white yesterday at Lowes to use tomorrow. And I'm a terrible direction understander.... :) Jeff channels show me everything.
"if its hot... you're screwed!" lol Love your paraphrasing.
Thanks, you are a great guy. I have been renovating my rentals for over 40 years however I have very seldom had tile work done. That said, I did a tile job at my own house in the kitchen last week. I left the grout on too long and it was quite a job getting it off. I never knew of the two types of grout. Thanks again, you do a great service to help people out.
Thank you for this. My local Lowes only had this and so had to go with it. Read all the tech sheet and took note of all the tips. I live in Hawaii, and even with wetting the tile with iced water, mixing with cold water, and sitting pot in ice bath, grout started setting up in 7 minutes! Stopped in my tracks and started cleaning. Then proceeded to the next area and did it all over. Grout coming out really good. I know you recommend against this for first timers like myself, but the thread of tips and advice you started was invaluable. Thanks again!
I actually just used this grout last week. I waited almost too long, I had to scrub really hard to get it off. I now find 3 foot sections at a time works really well.
After grouting the tile using ultracolor, I went off to do something else, then came back after 15 minutes to check and all grout joints were nearly setup! I frantically sponged the tile off and managed to save it. His is advice is wise.
Saved my project with this little video. Thank you.
Thanks for the warning. I used this product on a small area with no problem. I will be doing my a very large area and probably would have been stung hard. I have tiled my kitchen, dinning room and hallway and ready to grout. This good have ended in a disaster. Thank you so much.
I’m literally in the process of doing my backsplash! Thank you so much!
You can do it!
I almost destroyed my shower using that stuff. I used their charcoal colored grout and I couldn't even get it off the surface of the tile, to say nothing about making the grout lines look clean. I made both errors, I had sent the wife and kids out to work in peace, and it was crazy hot that day.
I was able to salvage the shower by putting a wire brush in my drill and polishing the tile and each individual grout line. Set me back about two weeks.
way to find a solution. Cheers!
What type of wire brush attachment did you use? I may or may not have gotten myself into a similar situation with my bathroom floor.
@@johnsimons3382 one of these www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/mastercraft-crimped-wire-end-brush-brass-0541326p.html#srp
Should be able to find something similar at any hardware store.
@@johnsimons3382 yes people want to know!!!
@@benbaxter2061 I did a little more research and found Dico Nyalox 2.5 in. Dia. x 1/4 Dia. Crimped Nylon Mandrel Mounted Cup Brush might work. You wanna make sure to get the fine nylon grit (blue cup brush)
Honestly, this is the best advice of any of the thousands of DIY videos I've watched, and a hard-learned lesson over the years: READ THE INSTRUCTIONS ON THE PRODUCTS YOU'RE USING!
Great explanation and easy to follow for all DIY! Listen to this Man people
🤣 "If it's hot, you're screwed." Love it!
basic math when working with a chemical hardening agent. heat speeds up every reaction. Cheers!
SO true too!
Freeze the water until it’s almost icing over... that’ll slow down the drying time by 8 seconds . ( jk ☺️🥳)
Jeff. this video came at just the right time - I've been putting off finishing the grout on my kitchen backsplash, and what do you know - checked the grout I purchased 2 months ago, and it's the UltraColor! Thanks for saving me (again) and for all your great videos!
Glad I could help!
Literally was walking to the line at Lowes with that product to get started right away. I saw this recommended a couple of times in this process of tiling my shower and this time I gave it a watch, what a save!
Thanks for the update regarding drying time.
Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan! I'm a diy'er and I was just about to start grouting with that same grout this morning. Thank heavens I've been watching your videos with others and researching every major process before I move to the next step. With that said! I'm gonna go switch this out😅😅😅. Thank you so much for your videos and information.
Glad I could help
Instructions, bro. My first question is always, "how does this stuff (typically a profanity or superlative) work?" Like any other tool in the box, it's nice to know how to use it.
I used the more complex stuff on a kitchen backsplash project. It turned out great, but I did have my wife helping me, and I watched a bunch of videos so I knew what to do and when.
It was my first time doing tile, and it looks amazing, so it CAN be done.
Thanks for sharing this video. I saw this and the comments just before grouting bathroom wall tiles. I'm so glad i saw it. I'm not very experienced at tiling/grouting however somehow made this product work. This is how i did it
1) Used Cold water when mixing this grout.
2) Hand mixed the grout. I had seen a separate video about how this guy mixed it with a high rpm drill and heated it up.
3) Worked in sections. Did a wall of 7ft x 3ft. Cleaned. Then moved on to the next section. Painful..i know.
4) Mixed half a bag first (5lbs) and then the rest of the bag.
5) Cleaning the bucket after the previous grout had hardened seemed to work the best. Knock the dried grout out of it by turning it upside down.
Something i noticed was when i had it mixed perfectly, there was a shine on the grout. That lasted me well over 45min of working time with it.
I did make a bad batch and it lasted about 15min or less.
All i kept thinking about of 'peanut butter'. 😂
Jeff! You are the man. Your videos saved so many of my home projects! Thanks
You're always appreciated.
I appreciate that
My experience with Ultracolor Plus FA (first timer, working solo):
My bathroom project had polished porcelain and also river rock on the walls, so the grout had to cover 1/16 up to 1/2 inch... not much choice but to go for this advanced grout. I grouted a test board first just to know what I was dealing with.
With very cold water and moderate ambient temperature (20c), pot life is well over an hour. So plenty of time there.
On the polished porcelain with the 1/16" gaps, I just did sections I could complete in 15-20 minutes, after which I washed. When the grout was no longer sticky to the touch I knew I could wash it. No issues and it is easy to work with. As a bonus on polished porcelain the grout won't stick on the surface and cleans easily even when dry.
On the river rock portion (I had sealed the river rock before hand), there was a ridiculous amount of time to work. I had to wait over an hour for the grout to firm up enough to wash it!
So really it depends on your project and your working conditions. Smaller tile spacing will dry faster than large, and I would expect that a more porous tile would also dry faster. If you're nervous like I was, just do a test board first. Use very cold water (refrigerate if necessary), and pick a cool day for the job. If you're grouting natural stone, seal if first. If you're just mixing 2 or 3 lbs at a time, it's easy enough to mix by hand.
Honestly for my particular project the grout was very easy to work with, and I would not hesitate to use it again. I have to wonder if Jeff has personally used Ultracolor Plus FA, or was just basing his non-recommend on a few less than careful DIYers. From Jeff's description this stuff would be near impossible to work with. That's not what I found at all.
I found this out the hard way a year ago; I thought I was losing my mind but now I know what the problem was. I have done a few backsplashes and other small jobs without issue, but this job at a friend’s house turned into a nightmare. This was the grout he bought. We didn’t tear out the work (felt like it) but I did wear out a pocketknife scraping over half the joints (subway😭). Fortunately, the wide angle of the tanto blade followed the lines and left just the right amount of grout behind…hours later. And the knife blade is no longer a tanto blade.😂 I love your videos.
OMG ! Thank you so much ! I'm returning it tomorrow and getting the easier one !!! Many thanks !
I recently used Ultracolour Plus FA and I think if done carefully the average DIY'er can be successful with it (I am one). Here are some tips I used, maybe they'll be helpful for someone in the comments here.
1. Absolutely, read the bag, two or three times. And keep the bag handy to reference after you empty it out.
2. Work in small batches. I used 2lb (908g) of grout and 200g of water at a time in a small HD bucket, pre-weighed with a kitchen scale and yogurt tubs.
3. Empty the bag into a 5 gallon bucket, put the lid on, and roll it around for a few mins to mix the powder before taking batches out.
4. Use ice water. The chemical reaction isn't linear, once a certain temperature is reached the grout starts to harden quickly. Using ice water helps keep the temperature in the workable range longer.
4. Hand mix the small batches using a plastic putty knife or paint stir stick. Using a drill mixer with small batches creates excess heat and then it's a race to apply and clean before it starts to set up.
I never thought about using ice water. I always just avoided using hot water. Nice tip. Down here in West Texas heat is always an issue.
Very good tips. I did something similar and liked it a lot
I just finished my kitchen backsplash using this stuff. (ordered tile and grout from the same place and this is what they ordered so i ran with it.) Did exactly the same, 2 lb, small batches, paint stirrer, and a wife to keep swapping out the 2 water buckets during the wipe down. Have the clean water ready before you begin and have her get fresh while you grout the next batch. It would go much faster if i could mix it all at once and just grout, but we work with what we have sometimes.
I bought small batch buckets with a marked fill line. I think that might be a good idea to stick to if I ever use this again .
Question for ya…I know it says that a sealer is not required but I just applied this grout in the shower. Would you still use a sealer?
Thanks.
When I was being trained on tiling, this was the #1 thing I was told... always read the instructions on each bag of grout, because they sometimes change, and if you don't follow the instructions you could lose out big.
Definitely read the bags! Because a bag grout like Power Grout (where they change their formula, seems to be monthly) they can the mixing and remixing times. Do this with mortar as well because both grout and mortar have different mixing times. And the instructions are warrantable!
All of your videos are informative AND helpful(even if you occasionally sound winded).I've been a DIY guy since I bought my house in '87.I learned from Time-Life books.They worked.WAAY before the 'net.Wish I'd had this back then.Would've
saved a lot of money.Thanks,Jeff.
This gentleman is right about that Ultracolor Plus. The key with anything is reading the instructions before you begin and actually FOLLOWING THEM! I tiled 550sq ft in my home and it was the first time I ever did tiling so I am your typical DYI guy. I did my research because I am a sucker for details, including this grout and he is spot on about only applying a portion then wiping it off. I found removing that grout within or right at 10 minutes was the perfect timing to do so. Eventually I mixed it a little different and was easily able to wait up to 30 minutes without issue. I laid my tile in sections using quick dry Mapei cement in about 50-75 sq ft sections at a time, and then let it dry for an hour or so, then applied the grout while my wife came up behind me wiping it off and it went without a hitch. It was so easy with a helper and patience. If you are someone who rushes, tiling is likely not for you.
So make sure you have a helper like he says and you'll be just fine. No need to be afraid. Just READ THE INSTRUCTIONS AND FOLLOW THEM and you won't have a single issue.
Anyway, great video and coming from a DYI myself, I can say you'll be just fine using the Ultracolor Plus IF you read and follow the instructions! Don't be afraid.
Do more of this type of videos they super useful.
More to come!
Great videos! I love your style. You make me smile in every video. I love your laugh! You totally crack me up! Thank you for your valuable info!
You are so welcome!
Thanks Jeff excellent advice as always..was at the home store this afternoon looking at grouting options and I said to myself , Jeff probably has a video for the best grout to use. Thanks again for the support.
OMG! You just saved me! I bought 2 bags for tile floor and decided to watch a few of your videos before I start. Will be making another trip to Lowe's this evening.
I'm a professional tile setter for 30 years the ultra color grout is a exceptional product its color constancy is very much appreciated by me.its one of the best of the newer grouts that are now available.
If your a novice at grouting I would suggest grouting small areas of about 5 to 10 sqft at a time untill to you get the hang of it.its worth taking the time to learn how to use the product to get a result you be happy with for years to come
Does grout have a shelf life? I've heard that thinset has only a year. Is this true?
Can it be used for a pool application?
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I'm going to use it, not experienced at tiling but have always worked with my hands, built furniture and I install liners in pools for a living. I will make sure to wipe it down quick enough and as you said work small areas. It really look like a much better product that will hold up long term.
Great "By the Way". Known several people make this mistake, and the first thing I asked was, "Did you read the directions"? Good to know I'm not the only paranoid one. 😆
Thanks for the warning. Love warnings like this. Better to learn from others than to learn yourself, the hard way
Thanks for this video. I will be installing my backsplash in my kitchen next month and already purchased this grout last month. Because I watched this video I'll remember to work in small sections with this grout so I won't screw up my backsplash and waste my time + frustration you warned about. I'm so glad I watched this video! :)
Small suggestion: You should add this video to your older ones like: Tiles DIY 101. Bonus: No one stated to wipe and let porcelain dry out when you cut it on a water saw otherwise it won't bond full of water.
This would have been nice to have watched a week ago
Ooof!
How did it turn out?
@@skylerslade101 apparently it ended up on his tile.
Proof?
Yeah i wish i had seen it yesterday.
So glad I watched this. Guys at Lowes sold this to me and I would have had zero idea what I was getting into. Thank you!
Glad I came across your video because I purchased the Ultracolor Plus grout! Watching a bunch of videos before I take the plunge.